Comment made following [Cuban’s previous fine](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/02/21/mavs-owner-mark-cuban-fined-tanking-comments/360493002/) for similar violations.
>”*Over the past several seasons, discussions about so-called ‘tanking’ in the NBA have occurred with some frequency, both in the public discourse and within our league, and you as governors have taken steps to address the underlying incentive issues by adopting changes to our draft lottery system that will go into effect next year. Throughout this period, we have been careful to distinguish between efforts teams may make to rebuild their rosters, including through personnel changes over the course of several seasons, and circumstances in which players or coaches on the floor take steps to lose games. The former can be a legitimate strategy to construct a successful team within the confines of league rules; the latter — which we have not found and hope never to see in the NBA — has no place in our game. If we ever received evidence that players or coaches were attempting to lose or otherwise taking steps to cause any game to result otherwise than on its competitive merits, that conduct would be met with the swiftest and harshest response possible from the league office.*”
Being that it’s the same offender as before, I can’t see the league reacting lightly. I can’t find any official indication of what punishment the league can pursue, but journalists have suggested they can do more than [simple fines](https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/10/22/adam-silver-says-nba-going-to-be-paying-particular-attention-to-tanking-this-season/):
> In theory they could fine a team or take away draft picks for blatant tanking, but that would require proof of intending to lose games — teams are smart enough to avoid that. From long rests for relatively minor injuries to leaning into playing their youth for experience, there are legitimate basketball reasons teams can come up with, reasons that just happen lower their odds of winning.
Unlike the Blazers or other tanks, there’s no plausible argument that the Mavs were motivated by any goal other than improving their draft odds, and JKidd was enough of an idiot to admit it.
by SchmidhuberDidIt
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This would be the cherry on top. Mavs fans in shambles.
It will just be a fine. He doesn’t have the balls to take away their draft pick. First rounder anyway, maybe a second
“After much deliberation, I’ve decided to fine the Mavericks a whole lot of money but let them keep the pick. But it’s clear that we are not doing enough to prevent tanking. Simply put, only 20 of the 30 teams being in the playoffs isn’t nearly enough. That’s why next year we will have a 32 team playoff with every NBA team plus a D-League all star team and the Harlem Globetrotters.”
All talk. It will be just a fine. Don’t get excited for anything else more.
it’s literally a non-issue if kidd keeps his mouth shut afterwards. historic stupidity.
This is literally worse than what the Miami Dolphins did because they:
1) told Kidd to lose on purpose, not only sitting the starters but actively removing any players in the game who were performing well (Morris, McGee)
2) Kidd admitted it and name-dropped both Cuban and Harrison
3) Luka and Kyrie released statements through their agents before the game saying they intended to play but were forced to sit
4) not only did they purposely fix the game, they did so at the expense of another team, deliberately rigging the game to screw the Knicks
5) Made it even more blatant than any other team ever has since the playoffs were on the line with them winning/losing. I’ve never seen a team tank a game that would’ve put them in the playoffs
I’d be fucking outraged if I were a mavs fan
>but that would require proof of intending to lose games —**(Most)** teams are smart enough to avoid that
Fixed it for them. Kidd is just dumber than anyone could have anticipated
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All talk. He ain’t doing shit
I’m gonna be honest and say that I think people calling jkidd an idiot for speaking out is wrong. The dude has been a competitor his entire playing career, even here in NY, during his twilight years. He doesn’t come off to me as the guy who is ok with losing/throwing games. He wants to win. But he was ordered by his bosses to throw the game, it was obvious, and him speaking up last night to me was his way of sticking it to Cuban while trying to distance himself from the shitstorm that’s decending upon mavs management right now. Also, ask yourself, would you be cool with throwing the game if you were in his shoes?
I agree silver that pick should just go straight to the knicks
How many more head coach gigs can Jason Kidd get? This is his last stop. If he’s gonna take the heat for losing, he’d screw himself.
Granted—I’m not sure if I were a GM, I’d want a coach who would throw me under the bus.
But I don’t see jason kidd giving AF of this is his last stop anyway. If im going down, you’re all coming with me.
Imagine the punishment is their draft pick goes back one spot. It goes from 10 to 11, giving it to the Knicks. This would become an all time meme
There’s a world where Silver drops the hammer and docks them the pick—-*especially* after the prior offense to the same franchise.
The league doesn’t like being mocked.
That said, Stern would hang them out to dry. Silver will just drop a fine. At best they’ll do some further half measure anti tanking consequences for the future.
I wonder if our fearless leader Leon Rose can file something with the nba because of the Mavs clearly acted in bad faith so we don’t get that pick
J-kids deserves a statue at msg if he gets silver to take away that pick from the mavs, remove the protections and we get the number 1 pick. That’s some goat ish.
If Silver’s not actually gonna take the pick away, he’d probably be better off just not saying shit.
Because now that he sent this memo, he’s gonna look like a total bitch/weakling if they don’t punish the Mavs (assuming they are found guilty of course).
Any chance Silver reduces the number of ping pong balls for Mavs?
It’s certainly not beneath Kidd to throw management under the bus, he’s done it before. It’s not out of the question for him to use this as leverage to guarantee his staying with Cuban, or turning to the league for something else.
> swiftest and harshest response possible
Mavs about to lose their 2029 second round pick and fined $50000
Lets see if this is just talk
They also need to issue a refund to those who attended. They did not receive the product they paid for.
I wonder how stuff will work out with the gambling stuff in the new cba
Silver is spineless.
Zero control of the league.
Weak, weak commissioner.
Can we drop this bullshit? We would want our team to do the exact same thing, so what’s the point of crying?
Imagine doing this for the 10th fucking pick
What is the fine is giving them a W for that game 😂
Is this a new quote after yesterday or did someone dig up a previous comment on tanking?