In the midst of a Golden Era for the Avalanche and Nuggets, where do Jamal Murray, Terrell Davis, Peter Forsberg, and other supporting superstars rank in the pantheon of all-time Denver sports greats.
From John Elway and Floyd Little not having a star to work off of to the stars we’ve seen through the years for the Avs, Broncos, Rockies, and Nuggets.
Join Eric Wedum, Adam Mares, Nathan Rudolph, and Andre Simone run you through it all.
Start – 0:00
’96 Cup who was the running mate? – 9:00
The two legends of Avs? – 14:00
Elway gets his running mate – 19:00
The predecessors of the Nuggets – 22:30
Jamal Murray – 24:30
The modern Avs – 26:30
Final 4 running mates – 34:00
Suzie Hunter joins the show to talk Elias Diaz’s All-Star MVP – 42:20
What does this do for the Rockies? – 45:30
Storylines for the rest of the season – 49:30
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The less rockies talk the better, the owner does not care so why should we ( it won't matter because minions are still showing up to the ballpark anyways so this will all stay the same and this comment means nothing )
Hearing D-Line and Adam talk about the avalanche is content I never knew I needed until I heard this conversation lol 😅
Peter Forsberg-if you can call him a running mate-is in HOF despite injuries costing him many hundreds of career games-was the best player on earth for a few yrs(when healthy)-& won a reg season scoring title,& MVP. He retired something like 4th Alltime in asst per game-despite a big chunk of his career being in clutch,& grab,lower scoring era. Missed the entire 2002 reg season-came back,& LED THE ENTIRE NHL PLAYOFFS IN SCORING DESPITE NOT EVEN MAKING THE FINALS! Losing in 7 to 1 of the most talented teams in NHL history-2002 Detroit.
Kinda tough for me to consider him a "running mate"-cuz when healthy-I think he was their best player for awhile.(Taking Roy out of it-goalies are a different deal) But he was 2c-behind Sakic-a top 15-20ish Alltime great. Forsberg/Sergi Federov were similar in they both won MVPs,& made the HOF-but were 2c cuz legends Yzerman & Sakic would always be 1c captains. Sakic clearly had the much better career resume,& has to be ranked higher on any "all time" lists. Resume,cumlative production,stats,longevity,& consistency-that all has to factor in that discussion. And obviously Sakic was the far superior goal scorer. But when healthy-Forsberg was the better player-my opinion. And not just my opinion. Players like Nick Lindstrum (best dman Ive ever seen-Makar might catch him someday)say no disrespect at all to Sakic-but Forsberg was the guy they schemed 1st,& foremost to slow down.
Real point here is how unbelievably talented teams like 2001 Avs,& 2002 Detroit were. Still the 2 most talented teams Ive seen in 28 yrs of watching the NHL. It is litterally impossible to be that deep,& talented today-cuz of the cap. Theres an argument the 2022 Avs are the best team in Av history-relative to how dominant they were against teams in their own era. But not an argument-my opinion-that they had more pure talent or depth than 2001. Today you could never have 2cs as talented,(& expensive)-as Forsberg or Federov. 2002 Detroit had like double dogit future HOFers on the same team. You dont see that today,& we likely never will again. Its why its only fair to compare teams from different eras-relative to the competition in their day. 2022 Avs are the best in team history-my opinion-based on how dominant they were vs the competition in their day-the only fair way to judge teams from different eras,& under different rules on,& off the ice. But no way do I think 2022 Avs were as deep or talented as 2001-or could jump in a time machine,& go beat 2001. I loved Naz Kadri-an Allstar in 2022-but he wasnt close to Peter Forsberg. So ya gotta factor in-Forsberg was doing it against teams like that-& Dallas who were allowed to assault,& batter him under the rules back then-& had several future HOFers also. Peter would be unstoppable under todays rules. If healthy-hed be putting up Mcdavid like point totals. Granted hed also get called for many more penalties & get thrown out of a few more games-but hed adjust if he played today.
But if we can call Forsberg a "running mate"-Id say hes the best ever in Colorado sports history,& only Terrel Davis is even close. TD might win this-if his career wasnt hit by injuries-even more than Forsberg. Peter had a long career-he just missed a lot of games. TD litterally had a short career cuz of injuries. But dude ran for 2,000 yds,& you could argue was the best running back in NFL history-over 3 yr span. But cuz he was elite for longer,& those Avs not only won 2 titles-like TDs Broncos-but made 4 straight WCFs,& 6 of 7. Playing in the west with those Red Wings,& Dallas…that Av team was very close to winning 4 or 5 Cups in 7 yrs. Losing game 7 of WCFs 3 times-so Id side with Forsberg on this 1.