Jaden Ivey was much better than a lot of people thought he would be in areas like pull-up shooting, decision-making in the in-between area, and was one of the best open catch-and-shoot three-point shooters in the NBA. However, Ivey was one of the worst finishers in the entire NBA this past season. In order for Ivey to become a high-level scorer for the Pistons, he must improve upon what was supposed to be a strength of his coming out of Purdue.
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Cade is going to make his game so much better.
Ivey will be as good as he wants to be. He has all the skills. He just has to want it. He could be a perennial All Star. And very rich. It’s up to him.
I recently saw an episode on Woodward Sports where Lindsey Hunter talked about how he personally saw Steph Curry shooting 1,000 three pointers in practice every day. And out of 1,000 attempts, he usually made 997. He's the greatest shooter I've seen, but if the story is true, that is commitment to greatness. How committed is this young roster to becoming not merely good, but great? It's up to them to put in the effort. Let's hope they do. PS great podcast.
Thank you Ku for highlighting Iveys poor finishing
A lot of the fan base is over protective of Ivey. They seem to want to gloss over his weaknesses and group-think their way into believing he'll be a perennial all star and/or all nba player. I honestly hope so, but i would say there isn't enough evidence from his rookie season that he will for sure get there
I was so confused the first few months of the season to see him be really bad at finishing his drives, because like you said, it was supposed to be his strength. I even posted my concerns on Pistons Reddit, and as you might guess, i pretty much got told to shut up and to stop overreacting. Well, Ivey pretty much went his entire rookie year being bad at the rim, which i think is really concerning. I'd even say that he flipped the script on his reputation and turned himself into a jump shooter, which i find encouraging bc he was a better shooter than advertised, but also discouraging because we really need someone who can attack and score in the paint. Can he and will he improve? Probably, but after watching nearly every game last year, I'm worried about his lack of touch and feel, lack of finishing strong,and lack of skilled moves at the rim. A lot of his layups clunk off the rim or backboard – not just because he's going too fast but because of poor touch. He also rarely dunks unless he has a clear lane. I thought he was a freak athlete? Freak athletes posterize ppl! He had 1 poster dunk all year and he's 21…c'mon – also, have you ever seen him on the receiving end of an alley oop? Me either… Lastly, he's still a straight line driver. He rarely displays a spin move, a shifty in and out or euro, or even a cross over. I'd also like to see him get into guys and freeze them like luka and cade do.. heck even bojan
I think I'm kind of huffy about this because no one's talking about it and to me it's really glaring… And most pistons fans don't want to hear it
Ivey needs to improve drastically as a finisher and defender before he's a winning player
I think he can do it and i hope that he does because we need him to be the all star that so many Pistons fans assume that he will be
He made impressive strides last year as a shooter and playmaker, so he should be able to improve in other areas as well
Ku, what is the Synergy website that you use ? I've looked but there are multiple of them.
Even tho I don’t like killian I still think he should get a shot to get minutes I think comp is good for him
So I’ve been saying this for a while. Ivey finishing so poorly at the rim is super scary!
What guard has made a huge jump at the rim? That’s usually not something guards improve a lot on. I don’t see the light for him next to Cade!
All rookies must get stronger. They aren't used to physical nature that happens at the rim. Ivey makes it worse by wanting a foul called on every play which he is getting fouled but they don't call it when you flopping on the floor which happens when you're weak.
All rookies are weak…just like Cade he needs to get stronger not bigger but stronger
He has to stop being a horrible defender or else he's a bench player.
Ivey my favorite player thanks for the topic
Ivey's best position in the NBA will be as A PG. Play making and taking advantage of gaps in the defense. Problem is Cade will have the ball in his hands 76 percent of the time. 90 percent in the 4th quarter. That will require Ivey making shots! Can Ivey do that on a full time basis? We will see
Trade Burks for assets
PG Monte Morris
SG Ausar Thompson
SF Joe Harris
PF Isaiah Livers
C Marvin Bagley/ James Weisman
Y'all know we are still a lottery team right?
More concerned about ivey defense he got to be a lot better
Cade
Ivey
Twin
Livers
Duren i think should be starting lineup hoping we trade bojan
Morris/sassor
Harris
Burks
Stew/
Wiseman marvin and Killian gone hopefully
I was wondering what teams could be looking to shed salary for next summer as more of a priority than it is for Detroit.
Killian Hayes and James Wisemen I think besides a team wanting to give them a chance, that is their biggest trade value. That’s $20 million in cap space between them.
I know Joe Harris is not being predicted to be in the ten man rotation but he is an incredibly reliable guy to have as your 11th man. Look we have Isaiah Livers, Bojan Bagdonovic, Alec Burke and Marvin Bagley in that first ten. I promise you someone is going to get hurt and we will need Joe Harris.
So for me I say keep him. Bring back McGruder as the 15th guy I am good with that. But what can we get for Killian and Wiseman because I would ideally like to see them soneplace where they will play out of necessity.
I do not have confidence they can beat out the other guys ahead of them without an injury.
I wish Wisemen would start keeping his head up when he is handing the ball in the post. He is taking away from his own value by trying to be a slashing guard in there
I don’t think we realize how much not having Cade hurt Ivey. Ivey was the focal point for all the defenses we faced so obviously he didn’t finish well at the rim. Do we all forget how great his passing was when that was never considered a strength of his coming out of college? He was way better in areas we all thought were his weaknesses, which is a GOOD thing not bad. Chill on the young man, he had a fantastic rookie season and he’s only going to get better.
ivey will be just fine..when team is healthy and he plays w a set,stable rotation, he will see floor better n be able to no set rotation spacing
Needs better touch on his layups. Having english and mustard on your layups like kyrie and drose isn't easy for everyone. he has to work on that a bit.
Everyone has mentioned Iveys finishing but rarely do people actually evaluate it. The team had bagley who cant shoot the floor was shrunk at all times. Yet Ivey still places in the top percentile for making it to the rim. He also was number 3 for rookie fouls he draws so many. He changes his shot or he is taken out the play with momentum. But we have also seen him adjust in midair which is a great player skill. He can also shoot jumpers rn he is showing he can be a 3 level scorer. Getting to the rack is easy his foot work is also great he is shiffty. All of his intangibles and skills scream borderline all star and star at the lowest. We have seen him go through contact and hit layups. So straight up finishing isn't a problem. Its how he adjusts and alters his shot so he can land.
He’s in the 71st percentile leaguewide in shots at the rim per 75 possessions (5.6 attempts, per Dunks & Threes). Whether it be via transition (95th percentile in transition possessions per game, per NBA.com) or in the halfcourt, Ivey is always looking for an excuse to get downhill:
Not only does his relentless attacking lead to a large quantity of the second-most efficient shot in basketball (shots at the rim), but it also cajoles his defenders into fouling him, which leads to the most efficient shot in basketball — free throws.
Ivey’s 5.8 free throws per 75 are third among all rookies (behind only Banchero and Bennedict Mathurin) and put him in the 90th percentile in the NBA overall.
This Is My Opinion On What My Boy Jaden Ivey Need To Work On With His Game 💪🏾💯.
. Changing His Speed While Dribbling / Limits Turnovers & He Gotta Learn To Slow Down
. Finishing / Finishing Around Rim / Layups & Contact Dunking
. Shooting Of Dribbling / More Midrange
. Catch & Shoot 3s
. Defensive Confidence
That’s What I Think He’s Need To Work On & I Hope My Whole Team Win Dawg 💯 Go Pistons Im Proud Of Yall Boyz 💪🏾💯
Watching his college highlights he was explosive but some of his hyped up finishes were hella sloppy. If he develops his float game he’d be solid as a guard he needs to feel comfortable finishing around the rim but hope he has a better sophomore year! 👍🏼