I can’t take this seriously when blackouts are still a thing. You want NFL type media coverage? The first step is getting rid of blackouts. You are never gonna get NFL type media coverage if games are so hard to access.
Also why did he even say this in the first place? “I want media coverage like the biggest sport in the country gets media coverage”. Um ok? I’m pretty sure every single other league would like that as well Adam.
Balls_of_Adamanthium
I regularly follow a shit ton of sports and NBA “analysts” are by far the worst out of any them.
TitanTigers
Good. NBA media is a fucking clown show, and it impacts the NBA fandom. There’s a reason a ton of people don’t take the NBA seriously. It’s 90% narratives and 10% basketball, a borderline reality TV show.
Popular_Storage9506
Start by making the regular season more meaningful.
jtruth9
Just read the article. He’s lowkey cookin…
GSpanFan
Yeah, I can watch every single NFL game from our local NFL team OTA (even the ones that get put on ESPN). If people can’t watch the games, they are not going to care about them. Make sure the games are freely accessible and the coverage will follow.
Also, there’s just way too many games in the NBA for them to be “events” like the NFL. There’s a reason why the NFL and things like the NCAA tournament is wildly popular and it is because every game matters. It’s really tough for the NBA to say that.
SerialRapper
Most of the people in these comments have not clicked on the article and its so easy to tell lol
Silver wants to get rid of the “the just wanted it more etc” type of commentating that perpetuates the idiotic “dawg in him” culture. He wants the media to help fans understand the intricacies of the game more and thinks this is a way to make more casuals interested in every team instead of just the big names
luke_workin
> My frustration a bit, I think sometimes the color commentary in our games gets reduced to, ‘this team wanted it more’ or ‘this team tried harder.’”
> “There is this sense (in football) where the coaches are viewed as these field generals, going out there with these complex schemes,” Silver told Redick, who works as an NBA analyst at ESPN. “Then in basketball, it’s just about athleticism. That somehow the coach’s job is just to get the guys to play hard. Rather than … these incredibly sophisticated defenses and offenses.”
I see no problem with what Silver is saying.
gonzo5622
Hmmm, he makes some good points. I think some of it is about educating people who don’t know the sport about the sport. It’s also about up leveling fans’ knowledge of the sport. It’s also about commentators breaking down the game a bit more. RJ and Reddick are some of the commentators I really appreciate because they’ll go into the technical details of a play and overall team schemes. I’m all for it!
kit_kaboodles
I like the idea here, but I do have to point out that a 7 game series for a grand finale will never beat out a single game event for casual fans.
It’s hard to make it as special an event when winning a game only gets a team 25% of the way to becoming champions.
Not saying that they should change it, but comparing yourself against the superbowl is unreasonable. The engagement with the general public is different.
2WAR
I dont know, sports media in the NFL is pretty brutal, they consistently shit on the shitty teams dooming their season after two weeks into the season, calling for regime changes, critique of their drafts, agents leaking team chemistry and front office scuffles.
SciTdb
What hes describing is Zach Lowe
Leggoman31
At first I was like “so literally overreact as much as possible to every game” but I realized its the good parts lol. I love how, for the NFL media, guys like Dan Orlovski and Ryan Clark get so fired up when they get to break down the plays (on the NFL talk shows aka media) and they get incredibly detailed and use technical football jargon/slang. It really opens your eyes to how the game actually works and its honestly one of the reasons I started enjoying football. I used to hate it.
On the other hand the colour commentary in the NBA can be downright atrocious at times. I’m a Raptors fan and I’m bias but I do think our commentators do a decent job, primarily being Matt Devlin & Jack Armstrong. I love watching other games too but I sometimes have to turn it off if the commentating gets so bad (Philadelphia is rough) that I’m more annoyed at them talking than enjoying the game. I’m with Adam on this one, we need higher standards for both publicly televised talk shows and the people calling the games.
dkdoki
Well if the fans don’t crave clown shit, then stop giving these clown shit talking heads attention
Rainn__40
The media is doo dooooo
a_waltz_for_debby
He wants to cut back on the “real housewives for men” soap opera stuff and ramp up some x’s and o’s talk.
HOU52k
Does this dude even like basketball?
ObiOneKenobae
Yes please. Inside the NBA is lightning in a bottle, Skip and SAS were lightning in a bottle, everyone else needs to get their shit together and stop trying to copy them. Talk about basketball, teach the viewers about basketball, do something that isn’t boring and embarrassing to watch.
TheMarkMadsen
They need to get the biggest media outlets to take every team seriously.
You’ll never hear an nfl commentator acting like he’d rather be doing anything else rather than watching two small market teams who don’t have championship aspirations play a regular season game.
Meanwhile on the NBA side you’ll have guys like Chuck and Shaq absolutely dogging struggling teams and acting like it’s torture to have to watch that particular game.
marion_and_beau
I love what he said. You never hear actual analysis from commentary crews, ever. The only time they even go the tiniest bit into detail is when the production team feeds them stats and they recite them. A lot of the time I rely on gamethreads on here to see if there’s a nuance of the game I’m missing.
Fhaksfha794
I’ve been saying this for years. The NfL covers every team mostly equally while in the nba it’s very clear that the big market teams get all the coverage. The Thunder are one of the best young teams in the league and NBA media doesn’t give a shit about them. Compare that to the coverage the Texans are getting from the NFL and it’s a worlds difference. NBA media needs to stop appealing to the ultra casual fan and actually cover the NBA, all of it
DetectiveTank
Fuck ESPN.
fullmetalsprockets
>Silver believes hoops viewers could indeed fall in love with the Denver Nuggets or Cleveland Cavaliers of the league if they were spotlit more consistently.
Then you’re going to have to tell ESPN and Turner to show them more, which they don’t want to do.
Briggity_Brak
Yeah, no shit. Try cutting the regular season to 17 games.
feh112
Nba analysis is garbo You really have to dig for deeper analysis vids
ThonThaddeo
Oh like actual analysis, rather than 4 idiots yelling at each other for an hour?
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Like Taylor Swift coming to the games?
I can’t take this seriously when blackouts are still a thing. You want NFL type media coverage? The first step is getting rid of blackouts. You are never gonna get NFL type media coverage if games are so hard to access.
Also why did he even say this in the first place? “I want media coverage like the biggest sport in the country gets media coverage”. Um ok? I’m pretty sure every single other league would like that as well Adam.
I regularly follow a shit ton of sports and NBA “analysts” are by far the worst out of any them.
Good. NBA media is a fucking clown show, and it impacts the NBA fandom. There’s a reason a ton of people don’t take the NBA seriously. It’s 90% narratives and 10% basketball, a borderline reality TV show.
Start by making the regular season more meaningful.
Just read the article. He’s lowkey cookin…
Yeah, I can watch every single NFL game from our local NFL team OTA (even the ones that get put on ESPN). If people can’t watch the games, they are not going to care about them. Make sure the games are freely accessible and the coverage will follow.
Also, there’s just way too many games in the NBA for them to be “events” like the NFL. There’s a reason why the NFL and things like the NCAA tournament is wildly popular and it is because every game matters. It’s really tough for the NBA to say that.
Most of the people in these comments have not clicked on the article and its so easy to tell lol
Silver wants to get rid of the “the just wanted it more etc” type of commentating that perpetuates the idiotic “dawg in him” culture. He wants the media to help fans understand the intricacies of the game more and thinks this is a way to make more casuals interested in every team instead of just the big names
> My frustration a bit, I think sometimes the color commentary in our games gets reduced to, ‘this team wanted it more’ or ‘this team tried harder.’”
> “There is this sense (in football) where the coaches are viewed as these field generals, going out there with these complex schemes,” Silver told Redick, who works as an NBA analyst at ESPN. “Then in basketball, it’s just about athleticism. That somehow the coach’s job is just to get the guys to play hard. Rather than … these incredibly sophisticated defenses and offenses.”
I see no problem with what Silver is saying.
Hmmm, he makes some good points. I think some of it is about educating people who don’t know the sport about the sport. It’s also about up leveling fans’ knowledge of the sport. It’s also about commentators breaking down the game a bit more. RJ and Reddick are some of the commentators I really appreciate because they’ll go into the technical details of a play and overall team schemes. I’m all for it!
I like the idea here, but I do have to point out that a 7 game series for a grand finale will never beat out a single game event for casual fans.
It’s hard to make it as special an event when winning a game only gets a team 25% of the way to becoming champions.
Not saying that they should change it, but comparing yourself against the superbowl is unreasonable. The engagement with the general public is different.
I dont know, sports media in the NFL is pretty brutal, they consistently shit on the shitty teams dooming their season after two weeks into the season, calling for regime changes, critique of their drafts, agents leaking team chemistry and front office scuffles.
What hes describing is Zach Lowe
At first I was like “so literally overreact as much as possible to every game” but I realized its the good parts lol. I love how, for the NFL media, guys like Dan Orlovski and Ryan Clark get so fired up when they get to break down the plays (on the NFL talk shows aka media) and they get incredibly detailed and use technical football jargon/slang. It really opens your eyes to how the game actually works and its honestly one of the reasons I started enjoying football. I used to hate it.
On the other hand the colour commentary in the NBA can be downright atrocious at times. I’m a Raptors fan and I’m bias but I do think our commentators do a decent job, primarily being Matt Devlin & Jack Armstrong. I love watching other games too but I sometimes have to turn it off if the commentating gets so bad (Philadelphia is rough) that I’m more annoyed at them talking than enjoying the game. I’m with Adam on this one, we need higher standards for both publicly televised talk shows and the people calling the games.
Well if the fans don’t crave clown shit, then stop giving these clown shit talking heads attention
The media is doo dooooo
He wants to cut back on the “real housewives for men” soap opera stuff and ramp up some x’s and o’s talk.
Does this dude even like basketball?
Yes please. Inside the NBA is lightning in a bottle, Skip and SAS were lightning in a bottle, everyone else needs to get their shit together and stop trying to copy them. Talk about basketball, teach the viewers about basketball, do something that isn’t boring and embarrassing to watch.
They need to get the biggest media outlets to take every team seriously.
You’ll never hear an nfl commentator acting like he’d rather be doing anything else rather than watching two small market teams who don’t have championship aspirations play a regular season game.
Meanwhile on the NBA side you’ll have guys like Chuck and Shaq absolutely dogging struggling teams and acting like it’s torture to have to watch that particular game.
I love what he said. You never hear actual analysis from commentary crews, ever. The only time they even go the tiniest bit into detail is when the production team feeds them stats and they recite them. A lot of the time I rely on gamethreads on here to see if there’s a nuance of the game I’m missing.
I’ve been saying this for years. The NfL covers every team mostly equally while in the nba it’s very clear that the big market teams get all the coverage. The Thunder are one of the best young teams in the league and NBA media doesn’t give a shit about them. Compare that to the coverage the Texans are getting from the NFL and it’s a worlds difference. NBA media needs to stop appealing to the ultra casual fan and actually cover the NBA, all of it
Fuck ESPN.
>Silver believes hoops viewers could indeed fall in love with the Denver Nuggets or Cleveland Cavaliers of the league if they were spotlit more consistently.
Then you’re going to have to tell ESPN and Turner to show them more, which they don’t want to do.
Yeah, no shit. Try cutting the regular season to 17 games.
Nba analysis is garbo
You really have to dig for deeper analysis vids
Oh like actual analysis, rather than 4 idiots yelling at each other for an hour?