Ok, so it’s not a well secret kept that the Bulls are looking to blow it up, imo we should capitalise on this if/when they trade Lavine/Derozan and fully commit to the rebuild.
I’ve come up with a trade for Vucevic, I think he helps solve our rebounding and can help with the shooting struggles as well, as spacing can get a bit awkward with Biz on the court (especially when Ja is back). Basically a makeshift Adams replacement as his decent passing can help fill that void which Adams’ absence has created.
In terms of the trade content, I believe either Laravia or Z (I know some people on this sub wish we could include both, imo we should hold on to Z for the time being) should be included as they’re gonna want a younger prospect to go along with some draft capital.
Let me know what you guys think, you can go ahead and call me stupid and say I know nothing about basketball if there’s anything you disagree with.
by Lacabloodclot9
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He lacks the defense needed IMO. I think it would be a weird fit. An Adams archetype big is what I think the FO’s efforts should be put towards.
Although I dont think he would be BAD, just not optimal all and wouldnt push anyone forward.
Alot of people are down on Vuc as a player but I think he is a pretty good fit. His biggest concern is his rim protection but even with Tillman or Bismack(who is decent) at center, this team is still a top 5 defense at the rim with Jaren. Vuc is a decent passer and shooter and a good rebounder on a decent contract. I wouldnt give up alot for him but this package isnt giving up that much.
I am very Vucevic-curious. He would help the offence sets run through the 4/5 so much (imo even more so than Adams does/did). Biyombo/Aldama running Pinch/Delay actions is a little tough at the moment. Vuc has really turned on his playmaking the last couple weeks since Lavine has gone down.
I am also in favour of selling out for more HC offence just to see how it would look.
If they can get him for a John Collins-like return (Adams + Ziaire) I am interested. That’s basically swapping salaries for next year and eases some uncertainty of how Adams will look in 2024/25. I realize I may be underrating his value a little – not sure how the rest of the league feels about that contract but it doesn’t seem like positive value.
If you’re adding picks I am a little less interested. I don’t think anyone will want Clarke unless there’s a FRP attached so maybe this package is realistic. I think getting off Ziaire/Konchar instead of Jake would be better, salary-wise, for the Grizzlies but maybe not talent -wise.
Edit – I also cannot agree with this “Adams is all we need narrative” don’t think that is going to fly in the playoffs. Teams can manipulate their offence/defence to basically take him out of the game. He have seen with Adams they have never been a good HC offence either.
I’d rather get a wing like Markkanen if possible there aren’t any good centers on the market.
They’ll probably want Z/Konchar over Laravia(Ass) if they even consider this, but I like it.
I think he’s the best likely upgrade at the 5 that we could get and could be an interesting change, but trading a prospect + a pick for a 33 year old center is just terrible asset management. Vuc will not be part of the long-term future of this team, and we should not send out future assets to salvage this dumpster fire season. If it was just one of our wing prospects plus either Adams or Clarke (I’d rather Adams), then I’m all for it, but not if you have to do both.
No
No. Maybe if it was Adams instead of Clark.
Why didn’t we get Theis?
I personally would prefer Drummond for less risk, but now I am curious.
How is the screen setting capacity of Vucevic…
For that package sure. I don’t think the Bulls would though. They’d want at least one more 1st.
No way. I think we have an excellent team. We’re just not healthy at the moment. You trade to get Vucevic and when Adams is healthy again what do you do? We have a very young team overall. I would be patient and let the chips fall into place. Notice how all these home grown young teams are really doing well this year. Nice thought but no.
I like Vucevic but I think that doesn’t help us compared to getting a scorer, another wing
a guy who can do a little similar to what Steve does and Gafford from Wizards, I think. better than Vuc
Don’t know if I like what this does for our timeline (vuc is a lot older than our stars). I think I would even prefer Demar over Vuc if were gonna trade for anyone on the bulls
Great target, bad trade. We really shouldn’t be sending out multiple future picks like this just for Vooch, our cheap talent pool is pretty barren.
Adams, Ziaire, Roddy, plus a 2nd for Vooch works just fine and makes sense for both teams (remember we’re also trying to clear roster spots for Vince)
As a Bulls fan, all I’m gonna say is we’re hoping for an overvalue everywhere. Vuc has a cycle. He’s useless then he’s excellent and it goes round and round.
This feels like going back to a more expensive, older Valanciunas.
What is the “1.72 Lebron”
No. That Vuc contract is horrendous. They’ll have to attach a pick to get off it, not the other way around.
OMG I swear some of you think the purpose of a trade is to insult the player you’re sending off like “*You ain’t shit! Hahaha! They barely wanted your ass! We had to give them a bunch of picks just to take you! LOLZ!*” The point of a trade is to maximize the value of the assets provided and get the most you can while giving away as little as possible. You might think Jake sucks and that he’s useless but if you can’t fashion a trade with him that nets someone of value without having to give away every other goddamned thing you have… then you suck at negotiating.
It’s dumb as shit.
He isn’t worth 20/21 next 3 years
Sounds good to me. But we’d be lucky if the bulls would even do this. lol