This feels like a basic case of ‘Oh, at least they’re not as bad as the Pistons’ where Detroit is so so bad, that teams that would be getting skewered by everyone are getting spared cause the focus is all on Detroit.
Spurs only have 2 more wins than Detroit, but I think get a pass simply cause of how good Wemby has been, and cause it’s the Spurs. So you might just go ‘I think they’re half-assing this deliberately’ for another high pick to pair with Wemby. Maybe a PG that they’re so badly lacking.
And the Wizards, who had playoff aspirations this season when they brought on Steph Curry Lite (haha, no) are arguably the biggest disappointment this season. And while Poole has been a Shaqtin a Fool regular, I feel the Wizards haven’t gotten as much criticism. Just expected to be bad always?
But man, the Spurs and Wizards should definitely have sent some Christmas cookies the Pistons way for saving them a lot of slander.
by OhSoManyThoughts
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dont forget the hornets they’re garbage too
entire crunch time offense is just chuck bad 3’s
Move them all to Vancouver.
To be fair, you can really only shit so much in the day. Spurs should probably be getting more attention but I can’t imagine anybody’s really going, “Why aren’t people talking about how much the Wizards suck?”
I mean a lot expected the Wizards to be bad bcz they traded their best player for a tank commander & also they don’t have a supposed generational talent or three top 5 picks on their team
To make matters worse, the draft class is ass.
I haven’t followed these teams too closely. How are they power rated according to Vegas? Would the fully healthy pistons be favored against the Spurs on a neutral court?
Ok so my issue with the Wizards is i see no future with them. Even with how bad the Pistons have been, there is still some gems here (well one gem) thats worth keeping.
With the Wizards…i just see nothing.
Like the Spurs are rebuilding and they have their future superstar already. Their course is clear and they are gonna get better as the years go on.
But like who os the future of the Wizards. Like do they even have a star level guy on the whole roster or a guy with a ton of potential. I honestly dont think so
So if yiu ask me id rather be a Pistons or Spurs fan than a Wizards fan because there aint even hoppe with the Wizards.
The Spurs are currently on pace to have the 5th worst net rating of all time.
What has been crazy about all of this, is that the ~~man~~ coward that constructed this roster (Troy Weaver) has not said a single word this season. Not a peep. Nothing. The clown really thinks he has put together a championship roster and it just needs time. He makes boneheaded moves one after another like it’s a bag of chips he needs to eat before his brother comes to try and eat some. He believes in his picks, his signings, trades, and you cannot convince him otherwise. Last year when it was painfully obvious this roster is still not working, he released a statement about progress, patience, the path, and my favorite, our “favorable salary cap position” and this joker takes on 20 mill for Joe Harris who is non existent on the rotation and does nothing else with our “favorable salary cap”. during the season he trades a solid young guy in Bey for James Wiseman who is as useless as a pen with no ink.
The most aggravating part is the Pistons fans blaming Monty Williams. Has he made some boneheaded rotations? Of course, but what the hell else is he supposed to do with this roster? Casey had one hell of a time getting 17 wins out of this team. Monty is expected to make winners out of a broken Troy Weaver experiment of bigs and lottery pick reclamation projects.
I didnt realize the Spurs were 4-25. No wonder I never hear about Wemby anymore.
Nobody expected the Spurs to be this bad. The Wizards, yes, and they’ve been competitive in a lot of games. The Hornets were bad even with Melo and are even worse with him….yes. The Spurs being as bad and as rudderless as they look throughout games for long stretches is a huge surprise, especially since Wemby has been healthy.
We knew he as a rookie probably wouldn’t make this team a contender immediately, but remember the Spurs blew like 4 huge leads early in the year. They actually led by 15 yesterday in the first quarter too. They have no ability to sustain good play. Whenever Wemby exits the game their team completely falls apart.
They have no stabilizer offensively. Tre Jones isn’t used in the way where he could be that guy. He’s also not a good shooter or defender. The way they function offensively doesn’t allow him to play to his strengths, even though the Spurs are a better team if he were allowed to. Vassell has improved but remains a pretty limited offensive player and still has not been able to improve as a pull up/otd 3 point shooter.
The Spurs actually look worse than the Pistons at their worst. Their best is better than the Pistons best but I think the Pistons would beat them if they played.
Spurs imo are the biggest embarrassment
No, OP, the Wizards did not have playoff aspirations. This is year one of their rebuild. They took Poole because he was buy low and fit better with the beginning of a rebuild than Chris Paul.
I don’t think they expected to be 15th worst ever bad, but playoffs were not a consideration. I think ~25 wins was probably the expectation.
Fire popovich. He’s a bum
Spurs 2016 🤝 Spurs 2023
Hiding an historical season behind a juggernaut breaking records
God, we’re so irrelevant that we’re being left out of this convo too.
Friendly reminder the Hornets only have 7 wins ATM so we aren’t that far off pace.
>And the Wizards, who had playoff aspirations this season
I don’t know how much more clearly the Wizards could have telegraphed that they are tanking…
The Wizards:
Fire their GM, hire Winger and Dawkins (two executives with a proven track record for drafting & rebuilding from their time with OKC).
Trade Beal.
Trade Porzingis.
Trade Chris Paul for Poole + young guys & picks.
Draft a raw high upside prospect.
Have a roster full of young unproven players.
Owe their pick to the Knicks unless it is top 12 in 2024, top 10 in 2025, and top 8 in 2026.
And somehow people still think they were trying for the playoffs?
your welcome
The funniest parts were when the media was portraying Wemby as SAS savior and how he will make the SAS instant contender. My expectation for his first season in the nba was never that high (I watched him play in Europe) so for me personally he’s doing okay; but media definitely overrated him.
Shouldn’t a generational talent be helping out his team more than 4-25?
You can’t blame the Spurs, their supposed best player can’t shoot 45%
The wizards beat the pistons by 19.
Some historically bad teams this season
Pop should send a gift card to the entire Pistons organization
If Wemby is “good” then his team wouldn’t be so bad. Wemby is a bust, I can’t remember when a highly-touted #1 pick joined a team and had a huge negative impact on wins. Anthony Bennett was an out of nowhere pick so I don’t blame him for sucking. But Wemby has huge hype and no impact on winning.
I never thought I’d love the race to the bottom.
Anybody who thinks the Wizards were going to the playoffs don’t know basketball. Look at that team. They have the same issues that most teams with young players have and that’s they don’t know how to close out games. Reminds me of all my years of being a Warriors fan. Very entertaining and then s*** the bed in the fourth quarter and we had great Hall of Fame players on many of those teams. The Wizards not quite as entertaining have no Hall of Famers on this team.
Im not sure they’ve really saved those teams. Wizards are at the beginning of a tank and Spurs are still early in theirs. The Pistons have a roster full of lottery picks and like 5 top 5 picks.
Piston’s should be at a point they should at least be competitive.
Pop is getting out tanked
At some point last week I made a similar comment on a PGT. At that point the Wizards and Spurs were tied 9th worst Win% in NBA history lmao. Somehow we’re on track to have 3 of the worst teams of all time playing during the same season. Idk how it’s even possible with so much talent being available. Truly generational suckage.
RemindMe! 2 years
Kinda crazy they were 2-1 lol
Fun facts: The pistons, spurs, and wizards combined win total would currently equal 24th place in the league tied with the raptors at 11.
The wizards and pistons win total combined would still be the lowest seed in the East, losing the tiebreaker with Charlotte at 7 wins.
Hornets and Blazers too. The Blazers are clearly tanking and they’ve had some injuries to start the season, but even after Charlotte got their piece of shit back from suspension they’ve sucked.
Sam Hinkie smiling down on them from heaven.
Probably an unpopular opinion but none of these 3 teams are on par with the other historically bad teams. It just seems that there are more mid-teams than ever once they introduced the play-in and made the lottery more random.
I don’t believe that these teams are historically bad
I think that the teams in the nba are historically good
There are like 20 good teams in the nba and everyone is fighting pretty much every game because last year showed us 3 wins is the difference between home court advantage (45 win suns 4 seed) and having to win 2 play in games (42 win pelicans, lost in 1st play in)
So it’s much harder for the scrub teams to win because people aren’t taking nights off against them
Also specifically in the case of the pistons, they don’t shoot many threes which is the high variance part of the game, often times that is how you can have an upset is a good 3pt night so the pistons roster is really well designed to not have upsets which would be fine if they were a team like the lakers who just had good players
Absolutely true. Needs highlighting
Most people would rather take the low hanging fruit and continue constantly shitting on the Detroit Pistons than talk about the Spurs, Wizards or Hornets I guess.
What about a Jordan Poole/Kyle Kuzma big 2 tells you they had playoff aspirations lmao?
The Wizards did not have playoff aspirations. They just simply didn’t.
We really should abolish the draft lotto for an end-of-season “Tank tournament”
Give me these 3 teams and the Hornets in a single-elimination weekend, winner gets the first overall pick