Miami Heat: More plays for Jaime Jaquez, Jr.? | Five on the Floor

Miami Heat: More plays for Jaime Jaquez, Jr.? | Five on the Floor

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Plan I’m Ethan Skol you can follow me Ethan J skulling and five for in sports I got Brady Hawk you can follow me Brady Hawk 305 make sure you check out the last episode that I did with Alex too we went through the three drafts that the

Heat of Nails in 2017 the BAM draft the Tyler draft and the haime draft and now in this episode we’re GNA focus more on hakz specifically because one of the things that came out of the last game Brady was Eric spoler saying I didn’t run a play

For him 31 points 10 rebounds on Christmas Day led the team in minutes again no plays run and this is one of the reasons that when I’ve spoken at sper a couple times once at the end of camp at FAU and again the other day after practice he has talked about the

Rotational and positional Clarity of this team so as much as he talks about position l this team is easier for him to manage because as what he told me coming out of camp and I got him to explain it a little bit more this time around there are more guys who can play

Off the ball that not everybody needs the ball in their hands like last year he had to make a choice between stru and Robinson he chose stru then he was kind of thinking of choosing Robinson but then Duncan got hurt coming back from Mexico City so he stayed with streu

Because he had to run plays for both those guys Tyler is somebody that they will run plays for Oladipo last year was somebody who needed the ball in his hands to be effective in this case haime Hawkin does not um Jimmy Butler does not even though he gets those touches and spoler said

Yesterday something to the General Media that he said to me the day before which was that Jimmy could get 20 just running around he probably wouldn’t like it if he didn’t touch the ball the whole time but that he could do it consistently well haime just got 30 one just running

Around so I guess I guess Brady what what fans are going to want to know now is and I saw a lot of this under the quote when you and me and Alex all posted that quote about you know I didn’t run a single play for him from

Eric spoler everybody’s like well why not if he’s getting 31 if if if you’re not running plays for him what’s he gonna get if you run plays for him so I will just ask you this if you were to run more plays for haime Hawkin what

Would they look like so first let me just say because I know that that quote was running like SPO not running a play for him I don’t think is equal to the fact that like he’s still like in actions like he’s still within certain play calls that are just general things

That the Miami he do on the fly like on a regular half court possession but he’s not like coming out of a timeout or they’re coming down the floor and he’s signaling for haime Hawk as play so I think that’s like the big difference because it was like his first bucket of

The game Hae Hawkin was Tyler like back screen for him to to kind of flow into a handoff and Hawkins was just wide open on a on a back cut so it’s like those little things coming off a screen like yeah there’s an action but it’s not a

Play now what would those actions be I mean the easiest thing to say is like things similar to Jimmy so number one I think the first thing we could say is see some pick and roll reps but like to your point about like positional Clarity and certain things throughout the lineup

It’s like they just don’t need him to run pick and rolls they have enough guys that can run pick and rolls that that are trying to balance that themselves that they just not they don’t really need that from him and the fact is you what is the reason that you run a

Pick and roll you run a pick and roll so you can try to get a good shot or get to the rim hak is I keep saying it like it does not matter where you put him he can get to the rim and I’m not even talking about the efficiency stuff because he’s

Been efficient even though some games re there was a game recently where he wasn’t and it was like the first time I was like wait he shot 50% he shot 40 something percent wow what what a terrible game from him uh but you look at the fact of how he’s able to get

There if it’s the mid post if it’s like you mentioned off ball stuff if it’s all these things he just is able to get attemp so easy and I’m glad you mentioned the offall stuff because whenever SPO was asked about hakz and I’ve asked him about hakz a ton he

Spends more than half of his time talking about him mentioning the off ball stuff like he starts there and if almost feels like they’re saying to themselves like we’re g to keep doing that only until you stop it like until somebody says okay we could take this

Away from him and what are you going to do now why not keep doing it where he can roll into 31 points not having to touch the ball and kind of pound the ball into the floor where it’s just like easy looks running the break uh quick

Things off the catch in the mid post if he’s if he’s just finding that like he does the same move every game that he does like twice a game where he does that spin over his left shoulder and lays it in like he’s not even like

Deeply on a Scouting Report yet so it’s like I feel like that’s going to be the first step it’s like okay we’re getting toward you know the end of the season teams are starting to figure out how to take away that drop step okay now we

Have to put the call this play for him to get him this look so that’s kind of I feel like be the next step but for now it feels like they could just let him freely play and he seems to be really good at it well let’s get to that next

Step then because that is always what happens with rookies he’s on The Scouting Report now he has to be um you know you you talked to Max about that last year about the adjustments Duncan um I’m working on a a piece on Duncan it’s going to be a podcast but also in

Story form and I I got a chance to talk to SPO on the side for a little bit the other day and he he told me that in mil the Milwaukee series The the second one the one the one that they got swept uh the one that of course you know

Bren Forbes famously outscored Jimmy Butler right the one that was basically an extension of the bubble season that they played Duncan more aggressively than any team ever had before and he went to Duncan and said look we we need to change things okay this is not going to work

Anymore and as SPO told me it didn’t happen overnight it’s taken three years Duncan had to go basically back to the bottom with his confidence and come out the other side and now he’s come out a totally different player who is essentially UNS Scout at this stage

Because he can create off the dribble and SPO said to me and I’ve told you this SPO SP said to me when I said well okay well what if they they go back with Duncan and now they’re going to back off of him uh and not give the quite the

Same gravity because the other things he’s doing and he looks me he goes well Brady asked the same question he’s like I think we’ll take that if they’re going to just let Duncan shoot so you see the adjustment and then the adjustment to the adjustment here’s the thing about Haw is

And then I want to get your your expertise on this I don’t really know what they try to take away um because it doesn’t seem like you could speed him up like you said the ball’s not in his hands that long and you know I go back and I’ve

Mentioned this on playback and please join us on playback we we broke broke down a lot of the film from last night on there today uh just go download the playback app for free and and you’ll get the notifications you can join us anytime Kendrick nun is the perfect

Example of a player who got scouted and couldn’t adjust and we saw that coming okay we we were Alex and I were talking about that a lot on the podcast because it was clear what Kendrick was going to do he was it if he was running a pick

And roll or he was coming off a screen he was not passing okay he was not passing like everybody knew he was trying to get to that kind of mid-range area whatever and so teams started crowding him and there was no adjustment made to it and we asked him

About it he said he would adjust there were other factors involved with Kendrick that he had to deal with that year a couple times with Co he had some personal stuff so it wasn’t just that but a lot of it was that it was it was

The fact that he couldn’t be the same player but I’m trying to figure this out like I watched if you watched that game yesterday okay and people watched it okay more people watched the Ravens and the Niners but people watched it what do you try to take away from him from

So first of all you’re trying to set me up because people get mad that I talk about schematics enough and now you’re trying to me to tell people how to stop haime hawz how to stop his Excellence like that’s just the the first thing here but I will say get the tapping and

The point this time in the stare just get everything um there was there was yesterday’s a perfect example of like what do you take away I know we talked about this at the game we were like I remember I looked at you I was like I guess they’re going to start forcing him

To take mid-range jumpers and like two plays later he gave a pump fake in the corner stepped into a baseline mid-range jumper and I was like okay there’s nothing left like they they there’s really nothing they could do at that point but there was a play Early in the

Game where hakas had the ball in the mid post uh and Duncan was almost like kind of clearing a little bit and and UB was guarding Duncan helps down to hakz and then Duncan like Sprints to the corner and takes a fading three and hits it it

Was all because of hakz drawing a double so the first thing I say to myself is like they’re going to start not letting him comfortably get into these matchups much like they do Jimmy and we talk about that all the time was where they send help at Jimmy so I think there’s

GNA be a point where now they start hedging a little bit harder at Hae but when he’s at this point like it’s December and he’s making those reads where he’s like okay they’re gonna help down quick kickout like and a lot of this and he mentioned this after the

Game when I asked him about it he was like they prioritize a practice being the best spacing team in the NBA which is funny because everybody talk about Jimmy and Bam can’t play together because they’re spacing and the fact that they prioritize that with the roll guys is how it all

Works it’s just an interesting Factor here because they the spacing has to be perfect to make it all work but hak’s reads is is kind of a factor in this so I think more doubles would probably be something I think you start to see more of even though I feel like Miami could

Figure that out and I guess there’s like the the the the thing I mentioned earlier with the drop step it’s like we’ve seen him though when a team because it was a play I don’t even remember what game it was where they cut off his Spin and I think we talked about

This at the game where they cut it off and the next play threw like a fake half spin into a turnaround jump hook they actually stripped the ball on the on the on the spin they they they stri it because he he spins he spins to the

Middle yeah but then it was literally the next possession we were talking about like how he would make the adjustment to it yeah and he faked the spin to the middle and went back to the Baseline Up and Under Up and Under and finished so it literally the processing

Speed of that Lit took one play and that’s the big thing because I know we keep calling him baby Jimmy and stuff and I thought it was one of the best answers we’ve had this season was when Jimmy was like I wasn’t doing that at 23

Like he he he you look back at the stuff he’s able to do like everybody calls hawz like a like he’s 60 years old because he played four years of college he he’s still a young guy that’s still learning this league but he doesn’t feel like he’s learning like it feels like he

Just KN he’s like been in the league for so long with a lot of these reads and everything so you mentioned the fact that hakz is on The Scouting PCH which I believe I just feel like now it’s going to just be a little bit more layered

Where instead of like who the guy is it’s more about what like he’s becoming a primary hub for this team and as as we mentioned before with what St SPO talks about one of the hardest things to Scout or scout out for a player is the off

Ball stuff where where you just don’t need the ball like it’s not like you’re scheming around okay when he has the ball here in a pick and roll when he has the ball in this spot and you want to force him this way like no he’s just

Running around a lot of the time uh and even like yesterday what last thing I’ll say he is literally the prototypical Zone breaker like he he could single-handedly be the guy that like if Mii doesn’t feel like facing Zone anymore they just throw him in because

Teams are not going to want to face that because he just runs around that back like the back line and he’s going to find an open slot if they cut that off and the way to break a zone is in the middle of the floor where else do you

Want them like Hai haak is catching with good size in the middle of the floor and turning and kind of making a play like he’s a prototypical Zone breaker so it’s like you have a lot of these factors that it’s like like I just don’t know

What you do with it so like what do you take away we’re going to keep having that conversation there’s some things on the fast break I’ll say that I’m like I that’s the one thing I’ll say I think he needs to clean up because he’s been so

Good on the break but there’s some things where I’m like he he he doesn’t like make the pass a lot of the break like he’s just going and a lot of the times it’s worked out like he he gets buckets he gets fouled a lot of the time

But maybe probably play a little bit different style where they start guarding him on the break a little more than than you know his off ball guy next to him so we’ll see but that’s gonna be the next step and I don’t even know we

We’ve said it was going to come in a week two weeks it’s G to come in a month like now we’re into the new year and it still hasn’t come in and seeing these adjustments well you mentioned the break and we’ve talked about this so many times this team’s terrible in transition

I mean they have been they they they don’t they don’t get it’s it’s weird for a team that’s as well coached so maybe he should just go he should just go they don’t space they don’t have a ton of finishers like there’s no there seems to

Be no plan once they get out I mean it’s basically like the Kevin love you know baseball pass or the Kyle Lowry hit ahead and a lot of times you see Jimmy leak Down Bam can finish Caleb can finish although he gets a little reckless at times so I don’t really have

A problem with haime just going the other thing you mentioned here the zone is interesting because I asked Tyler about it after the Christmas Day game about what SPO said about how they had trouble adjusting and he’s like we like that they went to zone I’m paraphrasing because it just showed they couldn’t

Handle us in man and and I think what’s what’s interesting is that you now have teams have to scout for their role players and that’s unusual like let’s take Tyler bam and Jimmy out of the equation Duncan’s on The Scouting Court like they have to scout Duncan like

You’re right they have no choice like otherwise he’s going to tear apart in a number of different ways they have to Scout hakz to some degree they have to scout Caleb even though a lot of his stuff is off the ball also so you’re talking about three guys I mean look

Other guys are a little bit more limited we know Kevin at this stage is going to try to you know make that straightway three okay and you know obviously he’s a good passer things like that he’ll be in positionally in the right place on defense they’re not scouting Kevin at

This stage not like you might have eight nine years ago Josh maybe not as much right but th those guys like when you have to scout the role players and after the break I want to get into the Jimmy Factor here it should free things up for Jimmy bam and Tyler uh in

A significant way and particularly with the chemistry that hakas has with with Duncan in particular but we start to see a little bit of it with Tyler and ultimately the most important chemistry on this team going forward is hakz and Tyler not maybe for this year but for

The future because ultimately as Jimmy moves on and hakz takes that slot and that is kind of the where this is going and that’s consistent with what I’ve heard from the organization they talk about their future being bam Tyler and haime um once that starts to happen

Those two guys are gonna have to be the guys who take the attention away from bam and can create on the perimeter do things together so the Tyler Hime combination is one definitely worth watching all right I do want to mention another great sponsor of the five reason

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Even may even hear about his status for the first game of the trip in Golden State they have played together um I think Alex said they’re plus nine together in limited minutes um but the minutes have been growing I mean haime has more minutes than any other player

Drafted in his class I have to check it up against Chad but I know that he’s has more minutes than anybody who was drafted in 2023 um Jimmy’s going to get back to his regular allotment of minutes at some point here somewhere between 32 and 34 kind of depending on the night hae’s

Been a ha’s averaging 29 in the past month he’s averaging 33 he’s also the only guy on the team who’s played every game so far this season so the anticipation is knock on something he’s going to be out there okay don’t blame me if it doesn’t happen they are so

Similar but why is it working and how can it work more I guess I have been a very big fan of the the Jimmy haime minutes and I was kind of talk about that I mean they’re the ones with the bigger sample size here like because

Tyler and haime played a little bit to start the season but that wasn’t like this version of Haim where he’s like fully getting more opportunities so now it’s been like what four games and it’s I feel like they’re just still trying to find their spots in a way and it hasn’t

Been bad like I thought they’ve actually you know play off each other pretty well for a lot of the reasons why we talked about before where the reasons that haime takes up these spots that are just not in the way of others as for Jimmy and haime I think I’m more thinking

About down the line when Jimmy’s getting more opportunities to run offense through him where it’s more stuff in the mid post for him more opportunities for him going to the rim because obviously I think some of that stuff’s been a little bit limited but I’m still not worried

About it like I I really think about it from the fact of of what they’re using him as and here’s the other big thing he’s shooting what 38% from three like it’s just like when we talk about taking things away that was the thing to start the season we were talking about like

Okay you’re you’re kind of putting another guy out there that’s struggling shooting but then all of a sudden he makes he made like 18 of 23s in a in a three four games uh run so they now have that factor that they could still stat him in that corner because they did that

Last night where he had they were there was a play with Kyle and Bam pick and roll Bam gets it on the roll his guy dips into bam kick out to Hae and he just has like a late contestant he does not even think about it pulls it knocks

It down it’s like that’s the stuff you’re kind of like what do you do with that like there’s he’s not in the way of these other guys he plays off them really well so the other thing about it I will say though the defensive part because we

Haven’t talked a lot about that the fact that they really have trusted haime defensively and we talked about that earlier this season but going back to last night we were sitting there saying how do they get Duncan in the game because they had Jamal Kane out there uh

It was Kyle Tyler Kane haime bam and we’re like okay how are they going to bring Duncan in and take Kane out because Kane’s guarding Maxi well they brought Duncan in for Kane and what did they do they put HZ on Maxi it’s like that is a crazy thing to do in general

Because I don’t feel like that’s his prototypal matchup but the fact that they trust him that he can hold up just enough and do that stuff it’s like it’s just a guy that you could play next to anybody it’s a guy that’s not going to make many mistakes the biggest thing

From last night’s game to me was the fact that he had zero turnovers like you’re going to the rim and getting that many attempts up and going through traffic and doing all this stuff and playmaking and you’re not getting one single turn over like it’s just a guy

That you could play next to these guys so I will say it’s not we keep talking about these two main lineups like the highe Tyler Hae Jimmy I just want to see all of them like that’ll be my question because we know they could play off each

Other we know there’s not an issue with them spacing wise the issue is like where are the shots going to come when it’s the four of them with the fifth whoever fifth guy you want to put in there which it feels like at right now is probably Duncan most nights I I don’t

Know how you take that guy out of these closing lineups how do they get their shot like how are they kind of playing off each other because that’s a lot of Firepower in one lineup but once again haime is not going to be the guy that

Demands the ball he’s not going to be the guy in that lineup that gets up a lot of attempts but he is going to be the guy that’s scrapping down that Baseline and getting offensive rebounds and getting tippins and doing all that other stuff so we are praising haime a

Ton but it is so warranted just for the fact of it of his play style the fact that he fits on this team so well and the the biggest thing we talk about his combo with these guys what about his combo with SPO because this is like the perfect guy for SPO to

Utilize well I think the injuries are going to solve some of this right and that’s kind of how that’s played out this season now that Caleb sprained his ankle you know we talk about who might be the other guy in that lineup he may not be available for a little bit I mean

We’re GNA find out if he makes the trip and he was doing a lot of those kind of dirty work you know off the ball type things and now it goes to haime now and again haime had to guard Maxi because they were out of guys like we talked

About like they wasn’t going to leave Kanan for the LA last three to four minutes he doesn’t trust them enough in a game like that but he was the guy guarding Maxi because they didn’t have Jimmy they didn’t have heith they didn’t have Richardson and by the end of that

Game they didn’t have Martin so you weren’t putting Tyler on him you weren’t putting Kyle on him you weren’t putting Duncan on him so you’re right okay if you’re gonna get them all on the floor then you had to put haime on him and I

Thought he did a decent job I did think was interesting yesterday though this is a SPO thing that I’ve noticed over the years when we start talking up a guy too much he will find something to mention that needs Improvement like I I always say SPO will praise individually and criticize collectively

Unless we’re praising too much he doesn’t want anybody to get ahead of themselves and I thought it was interesting yesterday that he threw in unprompted I forgot who asked the question but it was about haakas he threw in he needs to figure some things out in our defensive system but he’ll

Get there that’s intent that’s exactly off exactly offall but that’s intentional from spola I think like that is okay we’re getting carried away um you know again he wasn’t Dwayne’s coach when Dwayne was a rookie you know he’s had as far as he wasn’t he he wasn’t

Rio’s coach as well he was Rio’s coach I’m sorry he was Rio’s coach and he was Beasley’s coach as rookies with Beasley there was plenty of stuff to kind of point out as we were getting ahead of ourselves with you know the offensive gifts that he had it’s hard to believe

That was 15 years ago but when we would overpraise uh young players and start to get a little carried away he would mention something I remember he did it with Norris he did it uh he’s done he did it with Tyler he’s done it with bam

He’s going to do with hakz and it is the off the ball defense I think that at this point um you know because he stands up like he he will physic I’ll say the other thing here before we close he’s gonna start getting a lot of foul calls

In his favor because of the physicality that he plays with and that’s the difference between him and Tyler Tyler’s never really gotten the benefit of the doubt from the officials Hae will um and some of it is just perception its officials are are influenced by stupid

Things sometimes but some of it is he puts his shoulder down guys are gonna collide with him he’s gonna get those calls and I’ve started to notice Brady he’s he does the Jimmy thing where he sells it without selling it like Jimmy doesn’t flop he’s not a Flopper but he

Sells contact occasionally just enough okay that the officials realize it and I can feel haime doing the same thing so before we close and thanks to our sponsors Rock Esports Center and also better Edge you want to add one thing to his plate now over the next two to three

Weeks what do you add o um I I don’t want to I wouldn’t say the pick and roll stuff because I don’t feel like it’s necessary and especially if there was a pocket to do it it wouldn’t be with the guys coming back I would probably say a little bit

More mid post stuff where they’re trying to search for switches because one thing I will say real quickly the funniest thing is how we constantly talk about getting switches for like Jimmy and then we started talking about with haime but haime doesn’t even look for switches like that’s the big difference between

Him and Jimmy like haime will go at whoever is on his back like it does he’s not having Tobias on him yesterday and looking for Maxi or looking for for any other guard like he’s just going at him and he’s so physical that it’s a different physicality like Jimmy plays

Physical but like haime is like at this point like just running his shoulder into your chest to any part of the Court like that’s just what he’s going to do and that’s why I totally agree I’m glad you hit on that before this ended is the

Fact that the the foul calls are only going to go up and he’s still getting them right now like it’s not like he’s not getting a whistle at all it’s just going to increase but I will say I feel like there’s a way of making things

Easier for him and that ties back to where we started this thing and saying running actions for him where it’s like okay off ball set this screen so Hae can get this match up then work the ball around him and let him work and then

Play off of that like much like they do with Jimmy instead of just making him absolutely work for every bucket and go with these certain guys so I’m interested to see if they do that but once again like I said before I don’t think they’re going to adjust until

Somebody stops it like until somebody stops him from these certain spots and and shuts him down there’s no reason to go away from what’s working so I’m sure they have it in their back pocket to flip to whenever we reach that point you know the other important thing here is

And this is something that like Steve Kerr hit on when he was talking about about finally playing the young guys more in Golden State and he talked about you know the idea of making sure that you know the veterans were cool with it essentially and he got a little heat on

Social media about that but if you’ve been a successful coach in the NBA you know that matters that that it matters when you start to give a larger dose to a young player how the veterans are going to react to it and I remember again with Dwayne uh back in 2003 Eddie

Jones who was the star of that team when Dwayne came it wasn’t a very good team but Eddie and Karan were there and Eddie was talking about Dwayne talking Dwayne up the whole year like telling us how great he was going to be like if we didn’t realize that this guy was going

To be a superstar Eddie kept telling us over Eddie was a guy who at that point had been a three-time Allstar and had a seven-year 86 million contract I’m noticing the same thing from these guys like I don’t I don’t sense any resentment from them towards him maybe I’m missing something because sometimes

In locker rooms these Petty resentments kind of build up over shots over playing time and all that but I I don’t I don’t sense it and I I don’t I don’t think it’s coming from Jimmy I know it would not come from bam and I don’t talking to

Tyler a little bit on the side I don’t get that sense at all that that he’s and and those are the three guys that it matters the most for and then the role guys Josh seems to be a huge fan of his and Duncan’s a huge fan of his uh and I

I’ve seen a lot of interaction between him and Caleb and it seems like Kyle is pumping him up and we know Kevin does so I I just get the sense that they’re embracing and I think there’s an understanding on this team now that this

Is a guy who can help push them to the next level like they needed a boost a spark somebody new to come in we saw it even with Kevin but this different that was a locker room boost this is an on thec court thing and I I just think it’s

It’s hugely beneficial for these guys who may have gotten a little tired of each other of SPO of the whole process of getting so close but not finishing in the playoffs now they’ve got this like bolt of lightning and I just I don’t get the sense that they are resentful of it

I don’t so I I think that’s a a huge thing and I think it gives SPO the cover to give him more to put more on his plate because he’s taking minutes from other guys okay and I don’t sense anybody is upset about that all right

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Jaime Jaquez Jr. scored 31 points on Christmas Day, and Erik Spoelstra said he didn’t run a single play for the rookie. What if he does? Can, and should, Spoelstra entrust Jaquez with even more? Ethan and Brady break down the possibilities.

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