Tyrese Maxey delivers coal in Christmas day Sixers loss vs. Heat
N and a tough tough tough shooting night for Tyrese Maxi and the Philadelphia 7 well specifically him with no Joel em bead on a Christmas Day welcome to the phy Sixers post game alongside my partner Kyle newbeck I’m Devon given happy holidays Merry Christmas to everybody hope you had a fantastic day
Maybe it’s still going for you at 10:37 at night we’re here with you to break down the game we appreciate JP hanging out with us producing as well Derek bner with the much deserved welld deserved night off I know about much deserved Kyle will get the next one since I’m the
One that has to make up for my three months off Kyle hey man good to be with you and a tough tough tough shooting night for Tyrese Max well so first of all I just have to personally apologize to everyone because as everyone can see did not wear
Hoodie today I wore my we could call it Christmas B I guess and it turned out to be Miami Vice pink so I will say that was worth at least two points in the loss two minus two points we’ll say so that still wouldn’t have made up the
Difference well factoring my missing of the first half there you go Devon’s busy it’s it happened so my bad guys I wore the pink dress shirt instead of a hoodie and I played my part in a Sixers L on Christmas but I’m doing well Devon you
Know it’s I did not imagine when I started out in this business I’d be sitting here with you at 10:30 on Christmas hanging out sitting in the phly lounge and I certainly didn’t imagine coming into today that we would see the version of Tyrese Maxi that we
Did actually I’m curious on for your take on this Devon he obviously has been very good in lineups without Joel on the floor this year right those bench groups that he’s leading at the start of second and fourth quarter has been very good the numbers suggest that he’s been a
Plenty capable Captain without Joel but the games where he has to play 48 minutes without Joel he’s been bad and that’s not been the case basically at all during his career these have been some of his platforms to become a beloved player in Philadelphia turn in a
30-point game and be that spark for the team what do you think is going wrong for him and I guess what did you see that went wrong tonight specifically well tonight specifically I’ll start there and just focusing on just after a while of course I jump jumped in a
Little bit late because of doing the eagles post game with Bo wolf and Zack Burman but once I got caught up and talking to Kyle and figuring everything out looking at some of the Box seeing some of the highlights also it it already it was already very much in my
Head that he was in his own head because as a shooter and as a scorer it was what it was in the first half he had to leave that where it was and not allow that to overtake what was going to happen in the second half you’re down by a big number
Eventually down by as much as 21 points but the Sixers surge back so when that happens you just need to be a part of it however you need to be a part of it whether that’s defensively getting out there in the open floor finishing some transition buckets getting to the free
Throw line making free throws which would then open up the wide varray of things U wide variety pardon me of things that he can do that we have seen him and know him to do this season but he he looked like he had the same kind kind of mindset that we’ve been talking
About about Tobias Harris so much and I don’t expect it to carry over and see these games this three this week the next three games this week but it was just more of it carried over into the second half and I think that really did him in because once you could see his
Show just when we talking about the body language and AJ Brown and some of the others during the Eagles game you now look at Tyrese Maxi when things weren’t going his way he was still passing it things of that nature but the body language when it was time for him to
Shoot the ball or drive and finish you alluded to catching me up of how he wasn’t getting some calls that looked like Tyrese Maxi should have gotten some calls in that first half and with it that was frustrating him not getting the call not finishing not making free
Throws then when he was getting to the free throw line and not hitting his three-pointers all of that stuff just rolled into one really affected his game I think this is an isolated thing but it’s also something that we talked about when embiid is out for an entire game
Rolled the ankle on Friday Friday did not make the trip to Miami that we would watch and see how Maxi played in a game like this where they’re targeting him and if we’re going to give him credit for when Ma when embiid is out and he
Drops 35 on someone or 28 Great Floor game and leads this team to a win or a close loss we also have to point out yes these types of games happen it’s basketball however he didn’t respond to it well enough I’m sure like we would
Have liked to have seen yeah and so you brought up the point of about the officials and elicit traps in the comments said the refs threw him off from the start he wasn’t in a rhythm I wouldn’t go quite that far I I would certainly say if you look at some of the
No calls and everyone I think watching this show knows how I feel about Tony brothers because I’ve said it many times over the years that I I don’t appreciate his style of officiating I I think he got slapped or slapped at or collided with on a bunch of trips to the basket
Tonight that he deserved at least consideration for a call I won’t say that they outright missed a bunch of them but there are a few I said it to you Devon as we were watching the game there was a Tyler hero reach in that was maybe the most obvious foul of the
Entire game that they decided not to call for a certain reason but I will say it’s something we’ve hit on on this show previously I think he’s got to do a better job of playing through that stuff I think teams at this point realize and
Look at him as a smaller guy on the floor if we make him try to play through contact there will be games if that Runner is not falling if he gets some tough in and outs on shots that he’ll Wilt a little bit and he’s going to have
To deal with that until he proves that he can play through it now that’s like you said Devon it it’s one game it’s an isolated performance against a good physical defensive team obviously team that historically has shut down players like Tyrese might have been on who knows
If he was out on South Beach having a little fun on Christmas CE before the game I not going to cast any aspersions to me the big disappointment of that game is not that he shot poorly not that he didn’t react the right way to officiating but by the time we got to
The fourth quarter and it’s winning time as you’re saying Devon I don’t care what you have to do to impact the game but as the guy who becomes number one on The Scouting Report you’re essentially the leader of the team on a night that Joel’s not there I thought he just
Deferred and deferred and deferred like not setting guys up not playmaking just saying I don’t want this shot cuz I’m cold and you know there’s a thin line between I’m going to keep going I’m going to hunt for my shot even though I’m two for 18 or whatever he was at
Different points in the game and just playing selfishly but I want to see Tyrese play selfishly that’s one of the few guys on that team I want him taking the 20th shot after he’s missed 16 different shots so to go into passive Maxi mode I did not appreciate that
That’s something we saw much earlier in his career when he did not have the The Long Leash and the control of the team he does now they can’t afford for that guy to be there especially on a night without Joel and to me that’s one of the
Biggest reasons they lost this game yeah and you brought up you want him to shoot 20 times after the fact you’re absolutely right we saw some plays in the game and we said oh that was a maxi shot right there but what he did was he wasn’t trusting himself he wasn’t
Trusting the shot this had nothing to do with the officials these were outside shot step back threes that he normally makes and he just wasn’t shooting it you could even see it when he was on the free throw line and he missed his free throws oh and that’s I mean he is money
At the free throw 0 like close to 90% right yeah arms dropped slapping his his uh his thighs basically and he’s like this is just not my night but what’s that telling you Defender because they’re seeing it too or the coaches are seeing it and they’re telling their
Players he’s done he’s he’s not in it yes he’s giv the ball to Tobias Harris when he has the matchup that he needs that they where they hunt that matchup against Duncan Robinson Tyler herro take him and he wasn’t doing that so you can clearly see that that’s where it was
That was Troublesome for him and again mentioned it we both agreed it’s one game he will snap out of it I expect a much bigger game on Wednesday that said tonight he was not good and that’s something that you just don’t want to see find ways to win get that steal take
That charge play that passing Lane get that rebound hit that kick ahead pass and he was making the extra pass but the problem was we thought at least he should have been shooting that instead of making that extra pass because Tyrese Maxi would normally do that now sounds
Like I’m being a little bit all right Divine you kind of speaking out both sides of your mouth because you want him to shoot it but then you want him to pass it you want him to make the right play but yeah when I’ve seen you do it
And when I’ve seen you can take Tyler hero off the dribble you have a favorable matchup outside of Kyle Lowry which he can still get by Kyle Lowry Kyle Lowry t t hero and Duncan Robinson you need to go buy them just bottom line yeah you need to go buy them and sure
You weren’t getting the calls but again put that pressure on the defense put the pressure on the officials I was to say and the officials too very call to make the call because what’s going to happen Nick nurse might get a tech himself we’ll get to the other Tech but Nick
Nurse might get a tech himself and it they might blow the whistle the next time down because Nick nurse already put the pressure on the official to make sure that he called it as such when need be so bad game for him something he has
To get out of what did he finish with overall he finished with finished 12 points and Devon to his credit said he’ll get you at least 11 when saw the line at halftime can’t score can’t do this you were almost right on the money some of those were garbage time points
Especially that deep three that he hit yeah that was like it was like 30 seconds left so I will say about another thing that I’m I’m formulating the thoughts as I’m listening to you talk I think one of the other negative side effects of the passivity is that who is
Getting the touches and the shots and is controlling the team as Tyrese concedes control of it and honestly it ended up working out well for him at times because and we’ll get to him in a little bit on his own Kelly UB had a Blinder of
A night from three shot the hell out of the ball so that ends up working out the negative is that with Tyrese being passive and the the ball recycling in the offense DeAnthony Melton is controlling the ball more and DeAnthony as we’ve seen many times when he has too
Much control of the offense not a good finisher at The Rim gets himself in trouble dribbling the basketball and he ends up tonight what was he five for 17 he’s two for n from three he’s taken I love de Anthony’s confidence I wish we could have taken like 10% of the
Confidence DeAnthony had to take a step back three late in that game when he was already two for eight from three and just give that to Tyrese and say look bro this is your team tonight you got to go out there and seize the game so
That’s what I it’s like when it goes to DeAnthony and then Pat Bev who Pat Bev was fine he like a had an okay night I do think that you can see the limitations that Pat as your lead guard Off the Bench puts on the team there
They had a stretch from I want to say it was like five and a half minutes left in the first until a few minutes into the second quarter where they didn’t make a field goal right and certainly not all on P it’s not on any guy when you go on
That long of an offensive drought but it’s one of those games where I think to myself you know maybe I’m not as anti Zack Lam say and we keep mentioning the dynamic is going to switch depending on the game and you know how it goes there
Are some nights man where I just look out there and I’m like they got one guy who can dribble and if teams can wall off and shut down Tyrese and we haven’t gotten to Miami’s part of this too I do think they deserve some credit for look
They got away with some physicality but they generally did a good job of Walling Tyrese off not giving him that easy path to the paint and forcing him to it’s like hey buddy you might have to go left here and beat somebody with your left hand or you might have to hit a
Mid-range shot might have to do something that is not part of your normal offensive flow so Eric spoler is a great coach they have a great culture there all that I still even with all that underneath it they need more out of Tyrese and heavy is the head that wears
The crown man we’re here saying he’s a definite allar has a case to start in the allstar game if all that’s the case I need more from you than you gave them tonight that’s all uh traps here uh I I think it says ILS traps uh says watch
The game back he put pressure on the officials and they were pinballing him all night he definitely needs to play through it but the refs played a huge part in it you mentioned it earlier with our other comment uh talking about the officials not giving them the cuse you
Said it himself in the first but traps again you got to play through it and it’s something that we saw him drive a little bit get ticked off the one play where Kyle was alluding to where he got fouled on The Bump by Ty herro he threw
Up a lefty Runner just because he figured the whist coming so at least get the shot off to get the two free throws because they weren’t in the bonus yet they weren’t in the penalty so get the get the shot off and maybe I’ll get that
I’m going to get that favorable call let me get to the free throw line at that point now he’s dejected because he’s like what else do I need to do to get this call he has to play through it like you said so um watching it back you
Might be right but overall we saw the same thing he has to play through it in order to do so and if he does and not let it affect you mentioned do something like get a mid-range shot we saw the mid-range shot around four minutes and
As you said during the game it was almost as if he felt like he had to take it to take the shot because it was open he needed to because it was open but he didn’t didn’t want to take it armed it yeah he didn’t shoot it he
Threw it up there and that’s that’s what you get when something like that just seeps into you head and we were just waiting when I said all right he’s going to finish with 11 points and Kyle mentioned it you just needed a 4minute run where he goes from like that 5
Minutes to the one minute Mark Sixers up three now your defense just has to buckle down in that final 60 seconds to pick up the W and we’re on here talking look how he fought through that look how he did traps as you’re talking about just playing through everything to find
A way to win the game I was saying the 11 is just going to come in the flow of him going off in the fourth quarter to do his part to put his team over the top unfortunately he did not do that so we’ll see we’ll see how he far he’s he’s
Going to have another opportunity in a game like this where he plays poorly and he has a poor stretch and even if emid is on the floor and he has to snap out of it he’s going to have another game and more likely than not he’s probably
Going to do much better in that situation than he did tonight because he is that good of a player like we’ve talked about all season long tough loss for him tough loss for them because with him beat out Jimmy Butler out on the other side this was a winnable game and
They probably should have had if he played and and hit his normal number of his average of 25 26 and he gives you 13 to 15 they probably win this game because the flow and complexion of the game is totally different yeah and look part of the reason that we’re harping on
Him so much here is he never has these games it’s rare even when Tyrese has a bad night this is an uncommonly bad night because he’ll have a sleep not a sleepy game for three quarters he’s more of a setup guy whatever and then you
Look up start of a fourth quarter and he rips off 8 to 10 points swings the game in the matter of two three minutes timeout opponent and all of a sudden Joel embiid’s back in the game and he’s leading the closing kick and Tyrese is playing off of him him well tonight as
The feature guy wasn’t able to do that so we don’t have to throw the baby out with the bath water and like tyres sucks and this is the problem with him as the number two like here’s the other thing I I think what’s also clear is that if
Joelle is hurt and misses meaningful games this team is not winning anything anyway so how Tyrese performs as the number one guy without Joel to me is not relevant all that I care about this season and I’ve cared about since the start of the season is seeing whether
Tyrese is a capable number two playing with and off of Joel and he is beyond proven that he’s been better than I think he had any right to prove through the first you know 30ish games that they played right so he’s already far ahead of where I wanted and thought he could
Be at this stage and so these games it’s like yes it’s disappointing yes I would have liked to see more from Tyrese there are things that I certainly did not like that we’ve already I Feel Like This Is festiv Us rather than and Christmas we’re doing the the Airing of Grievances
Oh are we best friends now is that’s your show too I I love me some anytime one here boy go that’s probably aging us a little bit though you know I feel like a boomer or at least a gen xer when I talk about the replays always on so hey hey I still
Watch them back but go ahead I’m sorry but all that is to say yes I didn’t like that Tyrese performance for obvious reasons but I don’t think it means almost anything for him specifically as it relates to you know the playoffs and whether he can be the guy next to
Joal on a contender it certainly doesn’t raise my antennas right now it’s I I I’ll remember it but it doesn’t raise my antennas as we go forward I’m okay with uh what not with I’m okay with it I can look at this for what it is and I expect
I have the utmost utmost confidence in him that he will bounce back on Wednesday 100% absolutely all right let’s talk a little bit more about um if you want to see that team on the road on Wednesday Philadelphia I know where you can go listen if you if you headed down
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Defensive rating as Tobias last year and is a far better offensive player feel like on this team would be better fit and that contract won’t look as bad with the new CBA I’ll I’ll leave I’ll push fit over to you the point about the CBA I’d say there’s two ways to think
About it and Furious is mine because every year the cap goes up right because it’s based on the TV deal and all sorts of other factors generally up and up and up up and up and so you have more dollars to spend before you hit each of the different luxury tax thresholds so
Because LaVine signed under a previous CBA his deal will be comparatively cheaper than someone who signed a similar deal next year or this year whenever it is yes the problem is that the constraints in the new CBA are a lot tougher so the teams that are and there
Are fewer of these teams now right like three star teams we’re not seeing as many of those anymore it’s a lot of two stars and role players seems to be the growing new model that you’re going with if you have three max or close to Max guys and you’re bumping up against the
The second apron you start to lose the ability to do things like trade certain types of contracts you can’t sign buyout players when they get bought out after the deadline or before the playoff deadline so you’re less of a competitor for that over the long long term you can
Actually lose the ability to use second round draft picks and things of that nature and so I understand the point about the you know his deal will be cheaper relative to guys who are signing now but it’s still not a cheap contract he’s going to make a lot of money and
Become a a lynchpin player in your organization and I just I personally don’t trust LaVine enough for him to be that guy but I do Waffle on nights like tonight where I’m like godamn I wish they had a second guy who could really dribble the basketball and shoot for
That matter and as far as that goes you look at as Kyle lays all that out Daryl mury wants that flexibility and if that is going to be a constraint with the already put together contract that LaVine has it just doesn’t seem like when you talk about Furious fit that’s
More of the fit of Daryl myy not wanting to do something like that now on the floor fit we already know how talented he is it’s just when we always speak about will he buy into the RO Ro that he is going to have to coming into this
Franchise Joel embid is a clear-cut guy I don’t think he’ll have a problem with that it’s now the emergence of you know the emergence of Tyrese Maxi as the second star on this team where it looks like that’s something that we trust more going forward he’s 23 years of age
Probably making his first All-Star team if he keeps this pace up uh for this team they’ll be in the top three he’s going to make that Allstar Team all of that and when we’ve dealt with Vibes being around the players at in the locker room practice games Kyle more
Than me but Vibes dealing with that type of stuff seeing how it has really infected with all due respect the locker room in the past you don’t want to bring something like that in here also without knowing the qu the answer to the questions because looking at Chicago and
The run that they’re on now and they’re playing very very well without them on the floor the last Las thing images that we saw of Zack LaVine before he got injured was the winning a game him running off the floor ticked off for whatever reason we don’t know but it
Seemed like it was more based on his team and not the other team after you won so when we talk about body language and things of that nature it’s already the fit then it’s the body language why are you bailing out on this situation right now sure it’s frustrating you have
Your three players All-Star players and vich D rozan and LaVine something’s not right you’re a leader you’re supposed to be leading and getting us out of this and one other leader is DeMar D rozan not necessarily Nick vich that’s not what he’s known for so if your leader is
Doing this and you’re not trying to figure that situation out while quietly asking out I don’t know how he’s going to take it as far as a fit goes when it comes to coming to Philadelphia playing with these two maybe winning will help that situation but you know what I’m
Willing to not take take that chance and find another that might be a Zack LaVine next season going into the trade deadline after they probably take care of business this summer and doing whatever it is that they do to finish constructing the roster or again at the deadline maybe they find Caruso his
Teammate or someone else that will make this team have an overall better fit that way than going to add Zack LaVine talented scorer but it just doesn’t work for us here yeah and so my version of making that point is I want guys who are about the right things right like and
The trick for talent evaluators GM Scouts whatever is figuring out somebody like LaVine is he a product of being in a bad environment or is he the cause of the environment and I think the stretch that they are on in Chicago without him is a real negative indicator for him
Right cuz it’s easy to say okay Chicago’s not super talented they’re they’re okay they got some guys on that certainly a bunch of NBA players on that team but maybe there’s some overlap with him and thr rozen need the ball too much a little bit at times or want the ball
Too much at times and they step on each other’s Toes that doesn’t mean that they’re bad players but some weird fit stuff I think fits a lot more important than people realize a lot of the time but it’s easy to say you put him in the
Right team with the right coach and the right system he’s got the talent to figure it out well that’s not always the case sometimes it’s not Talent sometimes it’s mentality it’s a guy has to we bring it up with OG anobi as well one of the concerns I’ve had you know talking
With people in Toronto is he’s always wanted to be a little bit more of a guy than he is not a pure role player but like hey I want to be put in more pick and rolles like I want this I want that and you have to figure out is is he
Saying that because he just the team isn’t good enough so he’s like well if the team’s not good I deserve more opportunities or will this be a constant problem and this will follow him to different places so I can’t sit here and tell you I don’t know Zack LaVine or
Anobi or a lot of these guys on other teams well enough but all you can do is Observe and see what do they like as teammates what do people say about them are they quote unquote winning players do they buy in in ways that impact basketball Beyond I have the ball and
I’m happy because I get to shoot 20 or 25 times and that is how a lot of teams who are like look the separator between a lot of these title teams Conference Finals teams whatever is not necessarily Talent right Sixers are a great example Joel embiid just won the MVP one of the
Greatest basketball talents on Earth Tyrese is great James Harden top 75 former MVP all that when push came to shove the m ality was not right the the overall cohesion on both ends of the floor was not right they didn’t get enough shooting Joel’s not healthy and
It comes down to so many little things and we can gloss over the little things for the sake of hey they’ve got more Talent than anybody but talent doesn’t always win we’ve seen it a 100,000 times so that’s my only concern with Zach is
He has never been a winning for like a a driving force behind winning in the NBA has he fit into a okay team when things are rolling yes but how people respond to adversity including when they create the adversity themselves is as big of an indicator of whether you can be a title
Winning player as almost anything there is and that’s a question that we don’t know being in losing situations I what has he been in the playoff one time his entire care believe once and he’s been the best player on the on those teams and not making the postseason it’s not
All on him but but it’s also a bit of a reflection uh on him in those situations and you wonder how he would be is he at this point of his career where he’s like I want to win I’ll do whatever yeah no matter what I’m tired of losing I want
To win and that’s the bottom line I probably still want to make some all-star teams but I won’t impact our team negatively if I’m not getting what I want we don’t know that answer that’s up to Daryl muray Elton BR the rest of the front office the scouts the figure
That stuff out when they’re calling and speaking to Chicago but that’s something that we just simply don’t know uh Derek Bodner we thought he was off tonight he contributed to the show he’s he’s in the comments so he’s clearly got time to be here with us he just chose he says uh
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And by the way Furious who he had the Super Chat he did bring up I think this is a fair point to put a bow on the LaVine thing Joel’s 29 not taking a risk or focusing on long-term flexibility can be risky I agree with that and I I think
That doesn’t mean they should trade for LaVine but I do think that there’s at least a responsibility to make some kind of move or multiple if they’re smaller moves that make more than one move like try to push some chips in and give Joel and Tyrese for that matter a real chance
To win while Joel is still at the peak of his powers Tyrese is obviously a clearcut great sidekick number two for him I do I would not find it acceptable to go into the deadline just because they’re saying flexibility flexibility flexibility to them be like well we’re
Just going to defer until later we’re happy with what we got like I I don’t think that can be the plan and I don’t think it will be the plan I think is going to be pretty active between now and February well one of those guys you
Hope can continue his solid play from tonight which we saw early on in the season went away for a little bit came back hasn’t really hit his stride Kelly UB 25 tonight you mentioned it hit six of his nine uh three-point opportunities he was N9 for 16 from the floor in 39
Plus minutes starting roll seven boards three assists one block shot one steel looked pretty good tonight you hope that that’s something that is uh arrow pointing up going forward yeah look I mean it’s one of the simplest ways to analyze basketball but when you make shots you’re going to look pretty good
So Kelly having one of those games after as you said I think it’s been a tough stretch or at least a semi tough stretch for him since coming back from injury that’s good like if you accomplish nothing else in that game other than Kelly’s back in the right direction
That’s a good thing I mean we we were laughing that one they had a broken possession where Tyrese lost the ball he’s getting trapped at the half court ball like squirts out Kelly picks it up off the ground hits a ridiculous pull up three hot potato yeah that’s a great
Example of how Kelly’s confidence can kill you at times frankly he’s can take some tough shots but he picks that ball up he stares at the rim and he’s like I don’t give a [ __ ] how bad this possession is I’m putting that ball up and I think it’s going in every single
Time it leaves my hand so I respect the hell out of a guy who’s as confident as that as a shooter I think certainly tonight with tyres looking frankly kind of spooked with all the shooting issues to see Kelly just take on some creative responsibilities you know he’s beating
Guys off the dribble he got to the rim got an M1 against can’t remember if it was Duncan Robinson or Tyler herro but nice finish through contact attacking the rim on top of hitting those shots from the outside so look I I think I’ve
Said it a bunch of times here on the Pod I think he’s given them way more than they than certainly I expected I think he’s been a revelation as a minimum signing like if you if you had sat down in you know July August whatever and just listed Kelly’s stats and gave a
Basic description of how he’s played up to this point we would have thought oh he probably got like five to 10 million dos in the offseason just based on that so I think he’s been overall very good there’s a great bounceback game for him and you know hopefully as I think it
Looks like he’s probably going to get more minutes in the the week ahead because Nick batum’s hamstring holding him back from being in the lineup at all Robert Covington not playing at all tonight which that’s a let’s talk about that in a minute but Kelly Arrow back
Stock up if we had the the charts and the hats in here and no good for him it was a good night for him yeah no question about it hopefully that can continue Tobias Harris with a team High 27 10 of 18 aggressive Tobi remain and
Uh 40 plus minutes there for of seven from three he had a a one with the shot clock winding down and he needed to shoot that when he drilled it also had six assists seven boards played pretty well tonight again something that he can continue to build off that’s two
Consecutive games that he has played really well uh albe it a lost in this one he played really good basketball on Friday and if he can continue this might be that stretch where we’re always talking about it he’ll play poorly they don’t have two and a half three weeks
Where he’s rolling and these are good things for him where you those shots are going to be there for him you could see also when embiid is not on the floor where he gets mad at something like it was the misassignment on the back end
For him someone scored on him but he had no no one protecting the rim Obama was in the game I think it was directed at him but he kind of slapped the basketball and he was out you know frustrated he was vocal you know that vocal Guy where you want to see that
More when everyone is on the floor as a respected veteran and leader of this team seeing that more it would benefit in terms of W’s for this basketball team so two sides to Tobias tonight to your point I think tobias’s offensive approach was great and there’s a lot of I was actually
Laughing with our buddy Vince out there earlier where when he gets late clock shots or shot opportunities I should say it’s almost like you get a window into who Tobias should be out there because the decision is made for him and he makes a lot of those threes and some of
Them are you know relatively tough contests from the other team but because he’s not thinking about it he’s not like uh what should I do should I attack the clothes out should I take the three should I drive to the rim whatever it is he just shoots and he makes it because
Guy’s a good shooter he’s put a lot of work in a lot of reps in over the years but oh I mean I say all that that sounds very negative overall offense was good taking catch and shoot threes doing the things that should do there I thought he
Along with a lot of other guys tonight was horrendous off ball defensively I saw a lot of just attentiveness issues where he was not engaged guys are back cutting him and there’s a lot of like pinball type place where hits the guy near the rim they’re kicking it out to
Duncan Robinson Tyler herro I mean if Tyler herro hadn’t shot poorly for good stretch of that game this might have been close to a blowout than the the close game it was down the stretch so didn’t love him there but that was not as much him as it was the entire team so
Look that’s another reason I’m out on the the whole LaVine thing I think is you had Zack LaVine to the mix there although I guess if he’s traded that’s probably a Tobias type tra but he’s definitely taking tobias’s shots eight more I mean yeah I just think of Harden
That was his big problem right like I think James when you put a one-on one match up in front of him he’s strong enough long enough and fast enough a lot of times that he can play credible oneon-one defense but once you’re asking him keep your head up off ball or
Navigate around a screen and do things that require effort and attentiveness it goes off a cliff so I think Tobias is certainly a much better play- to-play Defender than James I think LaVine is right in that same category without the strength that James had so that anyway
Too much LaVine talk on this show already yeah already we still have what a month and and a half before we not even a half be funny of LaVine talk before feary plenty plenty especially you know how long it takes him to come back uh real fast on the Sixers and then
The heat moamba didn’t start Paul Reed got the start for embiid but offensively it’s seven for eight hit his three triples at 18 points does this do anything cuz we this is the second time we’ve seen it where he’s gotten minutes at that fourth quarter playing over Paul Reed because
He played well and now this 18 but he still does not crack the rotation for for Nick nurse well and the interesting thing was that Mo got the start in the second half and that’s becoming not frequent but it’s happened a couple times now where Mo was playing better
And like Paul had four fouls probably was part of it too it’s got to protect Paul from fouling out of the game with you know a quarter and a half to play I guess we got to make sure he plays at least a little bit cuz guys are probably on
Tired legs at the end of that game but yeah look Mo I think when the Sixers signed him in the off season this is a glimpse into what I think a lot of people expected I defensively can’t really move in space whatever like can block a shot yeah look he’s huge so he
Should have some value at The Rim but when you get them in space it’s a problem and some of the off ball stuff but look stretch the floor was the important thing when he was signed the number one thing we harped on was stretch big they haven’t had many of
Those Mo has had at least a decent track record as a shooter in recent years and if he does nothing else but hit some threes and then some cleanup stuff around the basket that separates him from Paul Reed on the bench and so if Paul doesn’t have it going or you need a
Different look to unlock a team that’s sitting back then Mo’s a good option and so I think this was a good example of this is what Mo can provide when he’s rolling like I I’m not enamored with a lot of parts of his game but that’s how
You need to stay on a roster as a essentially a third big or two and a half big depending on how you feel about Paul when the starting center is the MVP of the league is do something that separates you from the pack the shooting
Should be it so it’s nice to see him get some shots to go down I do not know if that means he’s going to get any real rotation it’s moving forward but maybe Nick Nur says Hey Revenge game against the Orlando Magic your former team give
Him a shot out there he’s he’s rolling after this game so yeah we’ll see yep yep absolutely uh haime hakz just had himself a game he’s he’s one of those first team all rookies just a classic Miami Heat exactly you thought he would be a pretty good NBA player now he’s
Dropping 31 when their best players out you still have your other Allstar on the floor yet he leades the team and leads the game and scoring with 31 grabbing every offensive rebound that he wanted that’s just one of those energy effort guys that gives you those type of plays
That you just marvel at every time and when it’s against the team that you’re watching or you’re covering or fans that you love your basketball team he’s the one that’s always just going to make you pull your hair out because why are you not putting a body on him why does he
Want the basketball more than my team he was phenomenal and I again I only saw the second half caught up on some of the stuff in the first half with the highlights but he he was tremendous yeah and there’s some people sounding off on more Sixers guys and I I think there’s
Some Nick nurse discussion probably to have here right so our guy unfortunately Marcus moris tough game tonight Devon we we got to have the Marcus mors moment of the night we very seriously said the Marcus mors moment of the night was when he couldn’t catch an inbounds pass and
Then got called for a tech and we were thinking for a while there that’s going to be the difference in this game is that one point now so that didn’t end up happening but the other half of that decision to me is Robert Covington not playing and I think you know after the
Initial skepticism of Marcus he was shooting so well that you completely understand guy shoots 50% from three or whatever it was for an extended period of time let him cook like you leave him in the rotation and until he’s not shooting well anymore well Marcus was on
An ofer at halftime cing hadn’t played and we’ve seen in other spots like the mo bomba minutes tonight he said I’m going to start Mo in the second half I don’t understand why Marcus is has as much rope as he does right now and why Covington who I think you know he’s been
Decent certainly nothing spectacular but has defensive value has real things that he provides to this team I don’t know why he is the guy who’s just like well he gets cast off to the side and he’s got no chance to get in when the guy head of him essentially is playing awful
I don’t know how we’ve arrived here I frankly I don’t know how that happened in La as well under tyo because this is not the first coach this happened under I’m under No Illusion that Robert Covington is like a all Defense level guy anymore and I know what his
Limitations are on the defensive end of the floor he’s more of an off ball guy not an on ball stopper I just don’t know why that’s become like Marcus Mars is sharpied in and CUV is like well maybe he’ll get in the game for Meaningful minutes at some point I don’t know I
Don’t know if does he because he’s a more vocal veteran who will complain about that minutes where Robert cumington is more of a laidback guy he’s not going to rough windy feathers unless he really gets ticked off because at the end of the Clippers run at the end of
The season and then in the offseason when he hadn’t spoken to his head coach he was vocally saying that he was disappointed in his role on the team there might be a difference where they don’t want to deal with that and he was playing well Mars was for for a stretch
There but now on a night like tonight when we mention highas all right Marcus Mars can get physical with him can keep up with him sometimes by using his strength and his quickness to bump him off his spot and recover at least Covington who is not a great on the ball
On ball Defender he’s a better on ball Defender yes and if you’re trying to slow that guy down you’re trying to give somebody a little bit of something a little bit of a spark because again not that that Covington is going to grab the rebound because that’s not him being all
Forceful and going up there and grabbing he is a pretty good rebounder for his position good rebounder he while he may not be forceful he’s a good rebounder yes and he might have that quicker second jump where Marcus Mars may not on this particular night where you might
Want to call that number to try to slow that guy down a little bit and help out with your defensive lineups instead of putting Marcus out there so questionable if we give praise to Nick nurse we gotta also throw it at his feet too when he maybe is overusing one and not giving
The guy another opportunity when you are giving while Reed’s in trouble let’s give Obama these minutes you see I can do it and I will do it I don’t know what Covington did or didn’t do to not get any minutes tonight yeah it’s just it feels like between CV and Jaden Springer
Who briefly got on the floor tonight those are the two guys that are not really being given I’d say regular opportunities at least befitting what they’ve shown on the floor right like I think KJ Martin got some minutes tonight he has had some decent stretches lately so gets another chance tonight I think
We’ve seen de house get a crack in the rotation with pum out and some other guys in and out of the lineup certainly DEH house has played well on garbage time and has his negative moments for sure but Nick’s giv him a chance so I don’t I don’t really understand why
Those who seem to be the first guys cut when they’re cutting down on minutes or or boosting someone else in the rotation that’s that’s something we’re have to see play out over time I don’t know maybe there’s some pumping up the other guy’s value for potential trades but I
Would think look I I certainly don’t think Covington is like a nailed on guy on this roster for sure so you would think if he’s a a salary piece you’re going to potentially attach in a trade why not play him now and you know show what he’s got left hey you’re trying to
Win this game so you’re trying to win this game and and also that part of it it might have called for him to win this game tonight real really quickly here Orlando 17 and 11 they’re two and a half games back at the Sixers idle tonight they won their last game but they’ve
Only won four of their last 10 so they’ve lost six of their last 10 games where the Sixers are 8-2 and they’re last 10 despite our talking here tonight they’re 8-2 a lot of that because of Detroit and Washington also but they’re 8-2 in their last 10 nevertheless they
Are a game and a half back of the bucks after Milwaukee lost to the Knicks earlier this afternoon on Christmas Day the Celtics beat the Lakers so they remain at the top Orlando is the next matchup they play them on Wednesday in Orlando so the Revenge game from Obama
It’s an opportunity there going against that young upand cominging team that’s fun to watch yes they are Scrappy they are long athletic can really get into you defensively and you know we started the show with Tyrese probably Fair to end it with Tyrese it’s the sort of team
That on paper I think can pose a lot of problems to him it’s not necessarily that they have one guy that’s going to shut him down but they’re going to show him a lot of length in the middle of the floor so the driving lanes are going to
Close up quickly it’s going to meet guys at the summit quite often so and Suggs is a dog yes so that’s a guy who can bother him at the point of attack we’ll see hopes with it the hope would be to get Joel back he’s back in the lineup
That obviously changes the calculus for everyone can’t sell out to stop Tyrese if you got the big man in the middle of the floor but still TBD on that there is the possibility Joel joins them for that game but don’t know that quite yet I either way I’m interested to see how
They look because I I think Orlando surprised some people this year and be a good test 29 um games 29 games in the books for the Sixers 209 record again only three games out of first place all things considered still a a pretty good year for this team
So far a winnable game against the Miami pardon me the Orlando Magic on Wednesday for game two of this four game Road Trip during the holidays so you want to get up out of here Devon say goodbye to our people on the way out say goodbye guys
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Kinds of things I love you all merry Christmas and happy holidays to those who do not celebrate Christmas Devon been a pleasure to be with you tonight always man I will catch you again on Wednesday on Wednesday I have Phillies tomorrow with Renee Washington and KY
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Day off tomorrow so you can relax a little bit until Wednesday we’ll talk to you good night happy [Applause] holidays
Tyrese Maxey struggled mightily in the Sixers’ Christmas Day game against the Heat, but big performances from Kelly Oubre and Mo Bamba kept Philadelphia close throughout.
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imo, Maxey got more and more in his own head as the game went on! If u recall he was bad against Minnesota without Jo as well, Gott be better Rese! We also just need another piece, but GG Tobi, Kelly, and Mo Bamba!
I was wondering where you went Devon. Havnt seen you on Keiths show in forever.
Bro making assumptions about a player’s character is crazy
There is a difference between when you are the #2 and the #1. And every player has to go through a learning curve when they are suddenly asked to be the #1.
Maxey is 23. He is dramatically ahead of schedule in his development. He's also 3 years away from entering his prime. A young player learning how to cope with and succeed against physical play is normal.
This should make Embiid angry, not with Maxey, but just being fired up to come back even better. Maxey not ready for the # 1 spot yet. He just gotta get a bag of tricks Ala Chris Paul.
Sixers Maxey is a good shooter and Super star, They need to give the ball to Maxey more often, Tobias like having the ball, I want Maxey to be more aggressive, Embiid MVP🏆🏆 Please get rid of Tobias and Melton and others, We need more good Shooters on the team, Please make some changes now, Let's go Sixers, Win Win Win 💪💪💪💪💪💪
Players especially small guards have bad shooting nights. You just have to impact the game in other ways when you’re not making shots. No need to panic about Maxey he’ll be fine. We can’t win many playoff series without Embiid anyway.
Dame
2-12 6 pts
3-17 12 pts
Haliburton
4-14 12 pts
3-12 8 pts
SGA
2-16 7 pts
Jalen Brunson
2-12 7 pts
Steph Curry
2-12 7 pts
Donovan Mitchell
4-17 10 pts
Ant Edwards
3-19 9 pts
Tyrese Maxey
2-13 9 pts
4-20 12 pts
Trae Young has a lot of bad shooting nights but gets all the calls Maxey isn’t getting yet so his point totals are usually decent even on those nights