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Abysmal 4th quarter dooms Phoenix Suns as Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies | PHNX Suns Postgame Live



Abysmal 4th quarter dooms Phoenix Suns as Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies | PHNX Suns Postgame Live

[Applause] Yeah oh no we suck again no sexy sex tonight you guys but welcome in to the phnx Suns postgame show unfortunately we get the sad sad music because the Phoenix Suns have fallen to the Memphis Grizzlies 121 to 115 I’m Lindsay Smith that’s Saul Bookman that’s Flex that’s ESO Gerald

Boray will be joining us later on in the show with updates from players and Coach but guys how you feeling after that one tired tired I mean you can’t turn the ball over and and then give them multiple Second Chance opportunities Time After Time After Time Again in the

Fourth quarter just that just can’t happen and that was the biggest reason why they just melted down in the fourth yeah I’m I’m I’m I’m looking at this game it’s all about Focus you just got to beat a Memphis you’re up 13 you’re up 11 going into the

Fourth you just got to have that mental focus to know that this is the game you got to finish the whole night felt like they were just playing down to the competition and just going with the flow and not taking advantage of leads and not trying to put the game away they

Play with their food and they got their ass who that’s that’s what it comes down to I’m not feeding too much into it um they just played a bad game and they got their bus whooped this this is the same team we saw earlier in the year it’s the

Same fourth quarter script we saw earlier in the year they it was a 16-point swing in the fourth quarter there’s no excuse for that when you have have the big three when you are at at pretty much full strength and you can’t finish the job absolutely no reason for

It the Grizzlies outshot him by 16% in the fourth quarter it was and they and they had three fewer shots and they still outscored the Suns by 16 points in that fourth this was an abysmal effort in the fourth uh and we’re getting to the point where excuses you’re running out of

Them when you play like this this was a bad game there’s no there’s no excuses this was a bad game yeah I mean I agree with you but am I the only one who doesn’t feel like really that bad I don’t know like I don’t know if it’s

Just cuz I’m in a decent mood at the moment if it’s because I already got out all of my frustrations about this team for a dieh hard round table that’s coming out tomorrow also become a Die Hard go phx.com but I’m just like yeah this game sucked I didn’t enjoy watching

It the Suns didn’t do what they were supposed to do but I don’t feel bad per se like it doesn’t feel like it felt when we lost in December I don’t have those same Vibes I don’t either I don’t either it’s a disappointing loss for me that’s it I

Mean I’ve I’ve never lived and died by every single game in an NBA season now uh they got things to they got to work on uh and I know you know there’s there’s a section of people out there that were like you know the big three

Does matter well the big three can only matter so much until you turn the ball over same thing that’s been happening all season but they only turned it over 12 times not like they did it’s when they turned it over it’s the key opportunities that they turned it over

Right careless possessions in the fourth quarter you’re throwing the ball out of bounds when you don’t need to do that you know forcing passes that don’t need to happen like yeah there there there’s a difference between getting if you if you lose the turnover battle okay cool

But if you turn the ball over in key opportunities when you’re when you’re when you’re trying to get that bucket to get you from eight to 10 but you turn the ball over they hit a three and cut it to five like those are the small things throughout a basketball game that

Are going to kill you and there’s a reason why the Suns keep losing fourth quarters it’s because they are sloppy overall the multiple rebound offensive rebounds like the they would even secure rebound then it gets knocked out of hand and you like those are the things that’s just not championship basketball so you

Got to play better than that in the fourth quarter and and the biggest thing that I will also say is it just felt like the Grizzlies played with more effort yeah um overall like they fought to get back into the game and then they fought to take the lead and uh you can’t

Really say the same about the Suns yeah but that’s who the Grizzlies are yeah like that’s a part of like I know that they struggled a lot early on when jaw was out this season but that’s always kind of been a little bit of their identity and The Grizzlies are really

Good fourth quarter team they usually the Grizzlies suck in the first half and then they turn it on in the fourth quarter especially whereas which the Suns have struggled in fourth quarters this season yeah but okay I get that that’s what the Grizzlies are but at

What point do we just say this is what the suns are because they keep showing us that that they have a propensity specifically in the fourth quarters to to give up these leads and I get it we’re going to say well the the big three hasn’t been healthy

Well this we don’t know that they’re going to be ever healthy in this year but what we’ve seen is they’ve been consistently inconsistent all year and that’s the only thing we can count on with this team is they’re inconsistent yeah again I’m I’m not tripping on this

Game it sucks we lost I hate that we lost but youo Kevin guys like Kevin and Devin and Brad you hear them say it all the time it’s a Miss make League there’s not too much to talk about look at the three-point shooting they hit eight threes tonight that’s that’s it that’s

The ball game they hit eight three-pointers I mean Grayson Allen by himself hit nine the other night the shots go in you win they sh they don’t go in you lose I mean it’s that simple they they lost this game at the three-point line 17 to eight y’all do

The y’all mathematicians do the math it’s it’s it is what it is that’s the ball game and so it’s a miss or make League ASB I mean the other night we won by 20 cuz Miami missed a [ __ ] ton of three-pointers didn’t we well same thing we just got it reverse

Should that happen no we’re better than Memphis I’m not worried I’m not looking at this game saying oh my God Sons have a dramatic problem we lost to Memphis not they they didn’t make shots tonight they weren’t mentally focused if anything that’s my biggest problem is

You know we have to get to the point where they’re not playing down the competition or they’re not losing focus in the middle of a game that’s over like that I that I will say needs to get worked on but the basketball aspect of it just want him nice look they’re they’re

19 and 17 if they had 25 26 wins I I shrug off a loss like this because it’s like all right you did have a bad night but there’s only so much so many times you can have these bad nights in a season before you start to go okay is

This team just who they’ve been I mean they’re they’re 19 and 17 this was a team that everybody thought was going to be much better and like again all I believe in this team right now is they’re consistently inconsistent I don’t feel like I can trust you know a

Performance like the other night because it’s followed up with a performance like like tonight especially on the front end of a back to back you you needed to take care of business so you had some legs for tomorrow and you couldn’t shut the door going into the beginning of the

Fourth and your guys played the entire game the record part about it I get what you’re saying ASO but again it’s not an excuse I mean have they they haven’t been healthy all year so you know the record part of it I get it but I I don’t

I don’t think that’s who the team is I don’t think you can look at the record and say this is who they are because of uh you know they just haven’t had the full deck of cards tonight was a bad game that’s that’s how that’s just my

Opinion on it tonight was a bad game hopefully tomorrow they’ll play better um if not that’s a tough clip of team they in trouble I’m not entirely sure the Suns know who they are as a team just yet don’t so I don’t know that we can definitively say that this is who they

Are do I think they’ve shown us a fair amount where we’re getting closer to that yeah sure but I don’t think as a whole the Suns even really know um entirely who they are as a team but let’s take a look at what’s in the box presented by desert Financial Credit

Union Arizona’s Number One Credit Union named by Forbes what’s in thex yeah tough loss tonight 121 115 again three-point line 8 for 28 29% Grizzly shoots 17 for 49 35% in my opinion that’s the ball game field goal percentage was pretty much right there

The Suns out shot him 46 for uh 102 for 45% Grizzly shoot 97 Shots tonight 43 on 97 44% the offense the the def the rebounds is interesting you know it’s 54 to 50 and it looks a lot closer but man in that fourth quarter they couldn’t

Grab a rebound no couldn’t grab an offensive rebound he couldn’t grab a defensive rebound Memphis was all over the glass it looks like it’s a four uh just a four rebound differential but it looked it felt much worse going into that uh fourth quarter and then what

Saul said points off turnovers they got 18 18 points off of our turnovers we only had 12 turnovers but they got 18 points off of it so 18 to 12 in the points off turnovers and that’s how you lose a six-point game to the Memphis Grizzlies and on the rebounding front

That 54 they were giving up up a league low 40 I think it was 40.8 rebounds a game so that’s almost 14 over their average as well so this was not your typical night on the boards for the Phoenix Suns I’ll give you that you know

Yeah you was you were saying that the whole time like we we don’t do that and so this is why when we look at all the stats and we jumble everything together you look at some anomalies and you’re like I know that’s not the Phoenix Sun

We don’t do that on the glass the the Grizzlies hit five threes in in the fourth Suns hit zero and then you look at the free throw line as well Grizzlies went to the free throw line nine times hit eight and the Suns only went four times hitting two so you know there’s

There’s a lot of things that you can point out throughout the throughout this game there it was ugly and again like I I will say this like I’m not hitting the panic button or anything like that but what espo saying is right like we we’ve seen this movie 17 times already like

It’s the same stuff that that has been you know hindering this team All Season like sloppy play you know the rebounds at you know just inopportune times turnovers at you know the B the worst of times like and going cold when you don’t need to go cold like the fourth quarter

Seems to be a pretty big Nemesis for this team right now and I know they’re going to figure some things out and you know they got to get adjusted to each other and blah blah blah we’ve already you know we talked about that at length

And I mean I don’t know what else more you can say it’s a fact that they got to still work on them VES and and get some chemistry and figure things out and I still believe that they can and they’ll get better as the season goes on but um

But some of the things you know the frustrating part is is just the things that they can control that are outside of just the chemistry issues things that individual players can control like effort on the boards turning the ball over like you have full control of that

You don’t need to do what you’re doing right now in order to give teams more opportunities to get back in games and they got to figure this out you bring up the three-point shooting uh in the fourth but in the second half they were one of 11 you’re not going to

Win NBA games when you go one of 11 from deep in a half of basketall this this is true but the reason why I’m not buying the three-point argument is despite the fact they only hit one three right in the third quarter they took a double digit lead yeah you know because

Everything else was going like they were getting shots at The Rim it was falling they were being aggressive they were playing with purpose but you know in the fourth quarter it all flipped yeah I mean that is a big part of it but I do think three-point shooting is something

The Suns have um relied on a little bit more this year than they have in years past and I think the most frustrating part about the stats when you look um at this game specifically from the three-point line is that the Grizzlies give up the second most threes in the

League right now yeah we only took 28 yeah and they took almost 50 so that that’s a problem to me we should have been able to take advantage of that that that should have been a an easy way for the Suns to get points tonight you know

Because you have to take advantage of that when you’re when you’re playing an opponent and you know that’s one of their weaknesses and you don’t exploit it that’s on you well and the Grizzlies on have these the third worst uh three-point percentage given up this year they give up

38.7% from Deep so this isn’t a great defensive team when it comes to the three-point line either yes you know this is one of those games where had the Suns won this game we be playing the sexy sacks be dancing around they won by two how much does it change like it

Doesn’t it doesn’t make me feel any better or worse it’s like yo be baely beat the Grizzlies like so I’m not getting high I’m not getting low I mean it’s just one this just a bad game whether they won or loss it was a bad game Brad Beal had a wide openen

Three-point shot two minutes left up two he makes that shot you go up five games poo he had a weird hesitation though he took a dribble in it took a dribble a lot of times guys want to take the dribble set their feet um that kind of

Drives me crazy sometimes to take the shot Rhythm but yeah I mean it was a couple of them kg had a pull up I mean KD had a uh pullup jumper about the two and a half minute Mark to go up four he just hit the same shot right right

Before missed it so yeah I mean it’s it looks like it was completely atrocious but they had plenty of opportunities to win this game and they didn’t and Memphis took advantage and they did so kudos to yeah uh don’t forget to check out our friends over at Desert financial credit

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I feel like and I’m not obviously this is not the this this this single play was not the reason why the Suns lost but it it kind of gives you a little picture of what was going on in the fourth quarter the Suns got the rebound and uh

I I don’t know if it was nerk maybe he passed pass it to Grayson but I think but Bradley Beal was expecting the outlet and he was in the corner and he just kind of sat there while the rest of the team was going oh yeah down the

Court yeah and I’m looking and I’m like Brad where the hell are you at and then he finally crossed half court with like 14 seconds left to go and I’m like what are you doing like what is this like why aren’t you running with the team like

What like and it wasn’t because of an attitude or anything like that don’t get me wrong it was just one of those things where he was trying to be like funny I guess and and he just left and I’m like it’s the fourth quarter can we take this

A little more seriously that’s it that’s it and I just I feel like sometimes you know like listen I’m all cool with you know feeling good out there on the basketball court and doing what you got to do for everybody right but I I do wish that there was a little bit more

Intensity from this team in the fourth quarter I feel like they just kind of get lost um they kind of had this they kind of like have this glazed look over their face like they don’t know who who to go to or who’s going to pull out a

Bucket and it just is I don’t know and I think that’s the reason why the Vibes are kind of low right now because it’s just like I don’t know it wasn’t the greatest basketball you know Memphis you know played their asses off and the Suns didn’t and you’re sitting there looking

At this team like you don’t have you don’t have the luxury right now to to [ __ ] around cuz you might end up finding out because of the injuries like would you think these guys are going to be healthy for the next 50 games no that’s

Not going to happen so you got to take advantage of games like tonight when you do have all three guys and that lack of effort in the fourth quarter is really really what just frustrates the hell out of not only me but also a lot of you in

The chat and the fan base it’s just they’re taking things for granted right now and it’s it’s gonna it’s gon gonna B think that’s my biggest thing taking things for granted I just I just feel again I keep saying play down to the competition and I just felt it the

Whole night they didn’t take this Memphis team serious but good teams great teams don’t do that they’re not great this team is middle of the pack right now and at best and I brought up the stat pregame and I’ll I’ll bring it up updated now they are 4 and3 when

They’re favored by four and a half or more in a game which hammers home to me lesser competition you’re doing just what you’re saying you’re playing down to them you’re and you’re you’re middle of the road and doing that this this is a team and I get it the the point spread

Isn’t the end all be all but when you’re favored by four and a half that 10 or more that says you’re playing a significantly lesser opponent and you’re four and 13 against the spread in those situations which which means you’re just playing bad basketball against inferior opponents yeah again it’s just to me

It’s a lack of focus I I I I was looking at something tonight and I’m going to look at the tape when I get home but I saw a different Rhythm to the team versus Miami the other night and KD comes back tonight and that Rhythm was

Completely gone and so again it makes me wonder sometimes if these guys just start looking at each other and saying your turn my turn your turn my turn and you you can lose basketball games when you do that now they don’t do that every night they’re two they’re five-

Two in the last seven okay so they’re not playing horrendous basketball they should have won tonight it could be six and one in the last seven not going to sit here and act like this team hasn’t shown Improvement they’ve shown Improvement tonight was a step in the

Wrong direction but um five- two in the last seven Katie just came back I’m not really tripping over this basketball game I’m disappointed but I I don’t live and die with every win and loss I’m I’m over that and you’re not going to be able to with this basketball team well

And I think too that like yes I am very disappointed in the way they played tonight but we would have seen this more if like you rewind to the middle of December this would have taken completely over this team a loss like this but we saw even on Wednesday when

They lost to the Clippers they still they went into the locker room they had to talk about it and they turned things on like we’re seeing improvement from this team and to your point with Kevin Durant coming back like I think it’s easier to navigate a big two than it is

A big three yeah and they still haven’t had a lot of opportunity to play together and hopefully we’ll get that like I’m disappointed in tonight’s game this is not okay but I don’t think this is nearly as bad as where we were sitting in December I don’t know I just

Don’t feel like it’s that bad I agree but as bad not not that it’s not bad I I agree with that it doesn’t feel like like like it did in December you know like oh the house is burning down but the thing to me is all brings up the

Effort that doesn’t have anything to do with the big three trying to figure out how to play together NOP like those those are the things I don’t understand with this team is you know is that is where where is that like that that’s not dependent on the big three knowing how

How to pass the ball each other in certain situations little things how does a guy get a running start from the top of the key all the way down the lane with nobody within like three yards of them all the way down for the tip and

Dunk how how does that happen how does that happen at the professional basketball level I don’t even understand it I really don’t but Desmond Bane did it tonight and the Suns had no interest in trying to block him out cool yeah and that’s effort it it’s

I I get what y’all saying man the effort is is a little inconsistent again they play Miami Miami won five out of six didn’t play with Jimmy Butler Miami is a hell of a basketball team well coached they’re better than Memphis the Suns drag them dudes down up the

Court 48 minutes to dominate that basketball game so again I I I don’t know maybe I look at basketball different I I just can’t go crazy with a a g just a day two days ago we’re sitting here on a 20 Point win and now

You lose tonight and you I I’m not into that I’m not into like forgetting what happened just a day and a half like I I don’t do that tonight was a shitty game and again uh effort got nothing you you got the same effort I get that I’m I’m

Gonna go back to the three-point line you make two more threes you win the [ __ ] game like that’s what it comes down to two more threes you shot eight for 28 like you you miss 20 you make two more threes you win this basketball game

So it’s a thin line so I I yeah yeah effort could be better but it’s a Miss orake League man this is a Miss orake League cross the board Sacramento’s pretty damn good they were down 42 at the half today that’s a good basketball team which is only three games better

Than us by the way and so I don’t I don’t think I’m gonna sit go home and watch the Sacramento game and say oh [ __ ] Sacramento ain’t got no effort they soft they this they that they not getting it together they’re only three games better than us and and that’s that

That that team just got their asses whooped and we’re down 42 at the half at home so I I guess that’s my thing but I get I get that but again like you you you’re playing a dangerous game if you’re constantly comparing your team to other teams based how they’re

Doing right like we’ve seen the Suns now for let’s do the math 38 games 36 games 19 17 36 games 36 games right and there even in the winds there’s a lot of these repetitive issues competitive wise you know the the the effort the turnovers things like that and your aspirations

And I know the Miami Heat made it to the to the finals last year cool but your aspirations are to get to get to that level and you don’t have a culture with a coach in a GM yet that you’ve built for decades right the Miami Heat have

That with spola for the last 15 years with the the Suns don’t have that they’re trying to figure out Vogal and they’re trying to figure out all these new pieces and stuff like that like so they have something to fall back on in terms of like the root of of who they

Are their DNA I don’t know what the sun’s DNA is right now at all right and so it you play that dangerous game like I said in in terms of comparing us to other teams when they are in different positions than you are so maybe like the

Kings for instance they’re down 42 but Mike Brown has established a kind of a culture there and they know exactly what they’re trying to do and he showed it last year and they have an off night is an off night and I totally get that but

I also think that there’s a lot that we still got to learn about this team and that’s the scary part I don’t I don’t know who this team is uh from night to night they can be really really fun or they can be frustrating as hell who are

They and we’re still finding it out for for me too I the kings are still a young upand cominging team right the expectation for this team was Championship Allin and I get it people are saying well you should you need to adjust the expectations but

I don’t think you do when you put as much in to this year and you you came in basically saying to hell with the future it’s the now it’s this year it’s next year so I think the stakes are just higher in this so when you’re sitting at

19 and 17 regardless of the injuries or whatever it just feels like it needs to be better and the kings were playing the Pelicans right who were hot who have their guys the suns were playing uh were playing the Grizzlies who had a nice win against La the other night but we’re

Missing jaw it just it feels different to me and at at some point maybe I do get past the well championship and I just accept some of what’s going on this year but I don’t feel like I I should have to because when you put together three guys as talented as Katie Booker

And Beal your expectations should be okay so you I want to pick it back off of that I’m gonna ask everybody here on this panel honestly we’re we’re 19 and 17 if we had no injuries if if we if we play with a full deck of cars we had no

Bad Bill 25 games out we had hypothetically what with what you’ve seen what’s our record that’s problem what’s 19 to 17 what’s I don’t know I have no idea they could be 19 and 17 still they could I totally disagree with that man there’s no I mean they’re 19 to 17 with

All the issues I gotta believe that if they’re all healthy for a whole damn year you add another five wins and take five wins off five take five losses off this emphatically I will argue this [ __ ] to like to To My Grave you give me the

Full three for the whole damn season and 19 and 17 is 23 and 12 yeah but the and that’s top of the Western Conference but the averages tell you you’re not gonna have that situation we’re living in the situation we are right so and he were

AFC that had injuries last year and when they got right they made it to the finals I get it I’m just saying you’re running out of that Runway there’s only so much we could say if because I I just hate that if we would have won tonight

This be a whole different I would still feel a similar way because even if you win by two but you have a fourth quarter like that again I go I’m not sure who this group is still yeah because they’re still doing the same things that got you

To a 19 and 17 record yeah or or a 20 and 16 either way like I I just go I don’t feel confident right now in this group being able to accomplish what they were put together to do based on some of the inefficiencies and inconsistencies we’ve seen that’s my simple Point that’s

Fair I mean we we agreed to disagreed here I’m not panicking in I I don’t I’m telling y’all I I can’t wait for the end of the season I really can’t we’ll see what you like some [ __ ] Spartan 7 said Flex that dude was playing the triangle when the Titanic

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Details it is true when it comes when it comes to flexing the Suns and I’m not and I’m not this is not no disrespect Flex is Never Letting Go he’s never letting go he’s holding on forever Flex is holding on to that door is I’m shaking I believe in my guys let’s look

At some super chats here guys because I feel like we have a lot of things to get to that you guys are feeling um all right ay real realtor we’re gonna have to see if we can find a comment that they Dro because you sent us super chat but you didn’t add a

Comment so if you want to just add another comment you don’t have to send another Super Chat just put a comment in the chat and we’ll get to it okay Don sent us one Don said ishbia needs to buy a spaceship to [ __ ] Mountain so we can

Get Booker’s Talent back I don’t know what that is son for [ __ ] sake stop looking past inferior opponents okay there you go that’s what he said to finish it off and all caps what that’s was [ __ ] mountain in space j is that was it was called [ __ ] Mountain

I’m pretty sure it was yeah I’m pretty sure they relax with what they let get away in the 90s I’m pretty sure it was a Space Jam thing that’s how I read it um but I agree they do need to stop um looking down on inferior opponents

That’s for sure go-to tech review said damn y’all down bad learn from it and on to the next yeah yeah that’s kind of how I feel we have no choice yeah yeah Travis sent us one thank you Travis they said forgivable loss if they can smoke LA tomorrow

100% yeah 100% I mean honestly do we not feel like a complete 180 tomorrow on the postgame if they beat the Clippers oh yeah yeah absolutely hell yeah but look I mean you always you always think okay we’d love to go two and0 on a back to

Back but one and one is is usually realistic in a lot of those situations so you got to get one can’t go 0 and two in the back to back now go get one so all right we got one from Benjamin Benjamin said fourth quarter is when

Teams put all other concerns aside and put their best foot forward Suns suck at Fourth quarters because their best foot isn’t good we don’t know yet they were pretty good on Friday yeah I mean they were pretty good on Friday they were decent in the second half on Wednesday yeah I

Mean Grayson Allen was otherworldly on Friday yeah so what was he tonight he was okay he was pretty good he was he was I’m not mad at Grayson I’m not mad like I’m not mad at Grayson I just asked that question just so so I wna I want to I

Want to talk about this for a second because this has come up multiple times on W from Wednesday’s game right about how they played really well in the second half but they didn’t play good in the first half right but because they were so far behind in the first half

Yeah they had you know they could never make up that Gap right um I’m reminded of uh of of my time in High School playing like really really good teams and doing the same thing and it’s it’s a bit of Fool’s Gold because you know we

We had a good fourth quarter so we’re like man if we would have just played like that the whole game we would have beat him well yeah if if were a fifth we’d all be drunk like Devon Booker said like you gotta play you got a ball all

Four quarters like it’s if you can’t do it from the start to the to the Finish then then you’re not a good team and I think that’s the suns are they’re they’re an average team right now their record says they’re 19 and 17 that’s just a little bit above average that’s

That’s exactly who they are right now and they got some things that they got to figure out but by no means does it mean that they’re going to be a 19 and 17 type team when they get to the end of the of the Season we’re just hoping that

They start to take advantage of these small opportunities against these inferior opponents because when they got to play these big dogs like you’re not going to win every single game against the big dogs like you’re going to lose some yeah you got to take advantage of the weaker ones you’re you’re costing

Yourself seating you’re costing yourself playoff positioning you’re costing yourself a lot of opportunities and you got to fix it agreed only two guys tonight shot over 50% Devin Booker at nine of 17 Drew Eubanks at two of three yeah le le I get it’s as simple as that

But yeah I mean this was a bad night from the field especially in that second half so okay uh AZ real realtor sent us won and they said this team lacks leadership and they need it bad do you guys feel like this team lacks leadership right now I know we talked

About it earlier on in the season do you feel like it’s still that way well they’re not GNA get any more leadership I will say that I mean I don’t know if he’s talking about players or coaches but both probably he could it could be both um from a player perspective you

Got Kevin Durant Deon book and Bradley be there’s no one walking in the door that I think is going to supplant any of those three guys so if you if it’s from a player perspective hey what you got is what you got um from a coaching perspective maybe that’s something that

Could be looked at I I will say this and you brought up high school um I mean players play the games coaches coach the games coaches have a responsibility to see when the when the players are not engaged and when the players are not focused and when the awareness isn’t

There and I know my coach would stop call time out and say yo guys like the last three minutes have been shitty let’s get it together you know when you’re up 13 you’re up 11 going into the fourth ah man it’s this a tough one yeah

It’s a tough one I’ll tell you tomorrow how I feel about leadership because I feel like okay you can have an off night it’s how you respond to things it’s how you bounce back it’s how you look when you’re in the adversity and and you’re staring it in the face I think that’s

When you see the leadership the coaching those kind of things how does it turn out tomorrow night I think we’ll know a lot about about that kind of a subject tomorrow night yeah all right before we look at more Super chats uh we do have some sound from Kevin Durant on whether

The son’s lack of reps together with the big three is being overlooked in a loss like this only results matter to people just watching and context really doesn’t matter so whatever it is I mean we know what it takes build a good team and expectations from the outside really shouldn’t concern us

But we understand that the to had people want expect so much out of us and be disappointed when we take losses like this so we just got to lock in and be better so I mean no excuses from Kate there he said results are all that matter to the people watching so context

Doesn’t really matter that much like sounds like I mean it’s kind of like an address saying of the situation that yeah we haven’t gotten it but at the end of the day nobody’s really going to care they’re going to care whether we win or

Lose so yeah we just got to lock in and do our jobs yeah it is as simple as that I mean they didn’t tonight they didn’t get the win yeah I I mean I wish there was more to say than that but that’s the reality right yeah yeah that’s facts all right

Let’s go back to some super chats because we got one that um addresses some things that k said yesterday in one of the son’s courts side chats so girthquake 416 sent us one thank you we appreciate you they said that sitdown interview yesterday the big three was

More hold on let me try this again that sit down interview yesterday the big three more specific KD casually said the guys sometimes stay up until 3:00 a.m. playing video games the product on the floor has been dog [ __ ] lately is this a cause for concern to you guys

So I don’t know why Sal’s left um but my take on this is no as far as the playing video games until 3:00 a.m. like there could be much worse things that guys are out doing until 3:00 a.m. and that guys are doing until 3:00 a.m. I just think

It’s one of those things where it’s like you’re a professional athlete you’re going to be out you’re going to be awake your schedule is different all the this isn’t a goddamn CPA go staying up till 3:00 a.m. when he’s got to get up at 6:00 a.m. to go to

The office and crunch numbers corre like these are guys that are expected to be at their Peak mental performance from 700 p.m. till 10 p.m. and then there’s a there’s a whole depr decompression time that you go through even you’re eating at [ __ ] 10:30 at night when you’re

Like even for us working in this industry like especially when I was working for team cuz you have a couple hours after the game where you’re still doing things and guys do the same things you know what I mean like it still takes like an hour

For them or so to get out of the Arena then there’s like a cown period right to like you have to think about it as if like you if you’re if you’re in your job you present to your boss every day at noon you’re probably going to be the

Most awake aware and like at your Peak at noon because that’s when you have to perform the best right these guys are at the the height of their day from like 7 to 10:30 p.m. so it’s going to take a while for them to kind of wind down you know what I mean

Time zones yeah like it just it’s one of those weird schedules that it’s really hard to understand until you’re kind of in the thick of it and then you’re like yeah no that kind of makes sense why they’d be up that late like have you

Ever worked at a like a job that has been just been stressful like every day yeah I mean well like like like honestly like facts like you know it gets stressful around here from time to time like we have a lot of things that we’re trying to get

Accomplished and stuff and so when I go home honestly sometimes the last thing I want to do is watch sports I just need to take my mind away from Sports just to go of decompress get away from it for a little bit you know enjoy time with the

Family or go like build something in the garage or barbecue or whatever right I just I just need to decompress like I’m cool with these guys doing this at until 3:00 in the morning rather than a lot of NBA players when they come to town they’re out till 3 or 4:00 in the

Morning in Scottdale they’re out you know clubbing they’re going to get drinks and then they come in and they play a game and you would never know sometimes you would never know so it’s not just you know all because you don’t know what’s going on and you assume oh

The video games I heard it was the video games so it must be the video games as to why they’re not playing well damn half the damn league is playing video games the other half has kids and they got babies that got to take care of you know what there’s significant others in

The middle of the night you know when the baby cries at 1:30 in the morning and you got to stay up until 4: like now we’re going to knock people for having kids like come on man like we got to stop with these external excuses man these guys are professional athletes

They’ve been doing this since they were [ __ ] three playing video games like all of them every single last one of them how half of them met yeah exactly playing video games this this video game Knock is just the most ridiculous thing ever it’s like my my utter Kryptonite I

[ __ ] hate that topic with with all my being no offense I appreciate the comment and thank you for the super chat but man we are not going there with the video game stuff man I’m just not trying to hear it I will say this you finish

The game you jump on a plane you get to the hotel it’s late as hell a lot of times these guys need treatment a lot of times these guys are coming from a rough game sore muscle ankle they’ll be they’ll be icing their foot while they’re playing the video game that’s

Just part of how they operate they incorporate the [ __ ] into their world and like you said I rather them be in a hotel room resting or in their house actually resting their body playing some video games then out and what I’ve seen in New York yeah like or Houston or just

Random trip day trips to Vegas or wherever I used to go to clubs where the Knicks used to be there all night well the Knicks aren’t a great example but like Chris D says I actually think the pressure we put on these athletes uh you gotta go back download

Yeah the pressure we put on these athletes uh for them to play a game is insane I’m like yeah it’s insane it’s absolutely insane but listen like a lot of people just live and die with every single game every single game hell even uh Darin ham was talking about it like

We gotta stop we gotta stop like sometimes they’re gonna have bad games they’re like yeah I’m disappointed that they lost the game tonight but I don’t I’m not like panicking or anything like that like I I’m just interested to see where they’re going to go cuz I can’t I

Can’t put a finger on on their identity and that’s the thing that’s probably a little bit more uh just unappealing about this team is because I don’t know who they’re trying to be I don’t know what they want to be I don’t know what their go-to is I don’t know what their

DNA is because it’s inconsistent on on on a day-to-day basis so that’s that’s where I go with this is like the stress yes but it’s also because of how we react to every single game you know you got is way getting cut yesterday and [ __ ] are out there just like oh

He’s trash he should never freaking see the court again I’m like dude he made it somewhere where you didn’t correct you know what I mean like and for people to go out of their way it has nothing to do with them but they got to go out of

Their way to dog on people and trash people and tear people down that utterly have nothing to do with their life and they could have just went right by a tweet or they could have just not said something like they even know these in the middle of the game you want to say

Something cool whatever but like you add an athlete and you start talking [ __ ] to them because they missed a layup in a game like stop um okay real quick one final thing and then we’re going to move on Brandon in the chat said and a couple other people kind of brought this up

Isn’t this why everyone wanted da out and now it doesn’t matter all of the sudden not on this panel I can’t speak for anybody in the chat or anybody on social but on this program none of us gave two shits about da playing video games the biggest gripe about da was the

Consistency the super high the super low night in and night out but outside of that we’re going to move in uh we’re going to move on to the next Super Jacks I don’t want to open that can of worms next up we have one from psycho blue thank you psycho blue they said

Basketball cthulu is going back to bed too many open back doors and too many missed bunnies and of course we can’t buy a call dot dot dot right yeah all correct all that’s right yeah the officiating tonight was a was a little bit like they kind of let book

Get beat up a little bit it felt like nerk too yeah it seems like nerk all the time but especially tonight with book and one thing that I am a little bit um concerned about which we’ll hopefully be able to get a little more context from

Gerald when he joins us later in the show Jerald did tweet out I asked Frank Bogle about the ankle turn and the shots to the ribs that Devin Booker took tonight he said the ankle was fine he has not gotten an update on the ribs yet so I’m not saying that means something

But usually if you’re going to give an update about one injury you would have maybe a second one I don’t know maybe the ankle because they had the half time to look at it that’s true that is very true and then yeah the ribs they just

Waiting yeah but we’ll keep an eye out on that and uh maybe get a little information in the next couple of uh hours and or before tomorrow’s game Tim from Phoenix sent us one and they said vogle said on December 19th quote big picture and quote doesn’t see fourth

Quarter as a huge issue breaking news we still suck at fourth quarter I agree I do think that the Suns need to prioritize figuring out what’s going on in the fourth quarter I know Frank Fogle also said after tonight’s win that they’ll have to look at the

Tape um and mentioned that he has to get better about getting Devin Booker more shots in that fourth quarter specifically so again hopefully Gerald will be able to provide a little bit more on on that for us here in just a few minutes when he joins will sent us a

Super Chat they said vogle worries me he doesn’t have an ability to Rally the team uh designate plays out of timeout and correct bad behavior he looks like he doesn’t care I I don’t agree on the plays at a timeout because just the last game we were talking about how crisp it

Was out of timeouts how they were converting with ease out of timeouts so I don’t agree with that part in particular rallying the team I don’t know I mean I how many coaches are rah rah let’s go get him like does that [ __ ] work either I mean we got on Monty

Because he was using all these Monty isms and trying to get the guys fired up like I don’t know I don’t I can’t read that stuff I’m not in the room so um like the thing that sticks out the most about that comment is he looks like he

Doesn’t care I I don’t see that I don’t see that yeah no I I don’t agree with dad I mean hasn’t he gotten more texts this year already than like Monty did in his whole tenure probably mon never got a teex he was very even kill on the

Sidelines Le Frank will yell a little bit so I mean I don’t know how you determine who cares more in those settings based on like that plus you’re not in the room you’re not like I it’s tough to make the assessment just based on the the small things we’re seeing on

TV of a coach on the sideline and one last thing I add to that it’s just easy to say that from watching the TV and then you get on the bench and it’s Kevin Durant Devin Booker Bradley Bill and you know these are three of the best guys in

The world you ain’t gonna be in their face going crazy that’s just not how you handle things at that level there’s a way to do it and I think Frank is somehow some way doing that he just doesn’t you don’t see it on the screen I spent three seasons sitting Courtside

Next to the bench like caddy corner from the bench and while you don’t see a lot of things on TV when you sit that close and you hear what a coach is saying the things he’s doing what he’s talking to his team about in the Huddle what he’s

Talking to his coaches about what he’s yelling at the refs like you get a better picture of it and I don’t think you get the full full view of it watching or even sometimes sitting 15 20 rows up in there because the coach may look like he’s standing there not not

Saying much of anything and he there’s a constant dialogue going on between the team the coaches and and the refs and so I think it’s a little tough to judge that way all right guys before we do a couple more Super chats here we do have

A sound from Devin Booker on the sun’s offensive struggles and whether a lack of reps with the big three play a factor yeah we just need to go to our next option um you know sometimes when the first option is taken away you know like we said out there playing just over

Denying everything um you know it has to be you know immediate you know just next action go to you know the next person go dribble hand off somewhere else um St play so slow is that part of does part of that come with just getting more reps

With I mean this is only like the fifth game I think the three of you have been out there together um no I think we should have it down by now yes I didn’t hear that he said is it because you guys haven’t had enough reps

With you got the big three only playing five games together right now and Devon’s face immediately was just like no no like like those three those three should be playing Better Together than they are yeah like that’s just ball and they’ve been playing together all summer once the be trade happened like they’ve

Been going to the gym together they’ve been playing you know what I mean so like what are you gonna do not a lot you can do at this point we just need to figure it out um but listen we have a couple more Super chats to get to Gerald

Is joining us here in about five minutes uh real quick I do want to check in though and see how we all did on our bets tonight did anybody wins did anybody win no no we all lost unfortunately didn’t technically technically didn’t lose he pushed because John Mor didn’t play so his bet

Got cancelled so he’s still at $11 I lost I’m at $365 now Flex also lost he’s minus that a $ 7827 Emma fixed his face and now he is has a sad face because he’s in the negative and espo under 100 bucks now you are at

9850 listen what what yeah and you’re a 38 congratulations because you’re leading us so I would tell you you’re under $100 the same way that if Saul wented the negative I would lead with that too it was the way you said it uhhuh sure get up out your feels espo if

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You guys don’t want to we’re going to skip it you don’t feel like it deserves it today who who would it be ner ner 18 points 19 rebounds five assists I guess there’s got his ass physically good game ner almost 2025 that’s a good game but when you lose who gives a

[ __ ] I do no I I get no no nerk nerk played hard tonight listen 20 20 and five is a good basketball game it is I don’t know all right congratulations nerk I guess that’s what we’re doing you’re a big bright shiny star yay in the darkness beyond the light

There shall only be one welcome you girl hi Gerald welcome in uh glad glad to have you here got a couple big spots of conversation to talk with you about tonight but I think the biggest one we can start with is the fourth quarter and just the letdown within that quarter

What did Frank Bogle and the players say about that yeah Bogle said he’s got to look at the film but his initial feeling is that he’s got to do a better job of putting guys in spots particularly getting you know Devon Booker more shots I think he

Only took two in that fourth quarter um you know Kevin Durant was saying that he felt like they got some good looks a couple of his just didn’t fall he felt like a couple of the Suns didn’t fall um but a lot of them were pointing more so

To the defensive end they weren’t getting stops obviously they got outshot by I think 21 three-point attempts tonight and even with the Grizzlies being the worst three-point shooting team in the NBA you’re just fighting an uphill battle against basic math at that point um and boogo pointed out I think

They hit 23 against the Lakers the other day so uh they weren’t as good about they were good about keeping them out of the paint but they weren’t as good about closing out on the shooters that they needed to recover to uh and I think that

Hurt them tonight so a lot of different problems you know I I asked book if the lack of reps with the big three is something that played a factor into them playing slow offensively and as you saw from the clip I’m sure he said no we

Should be past that by now so it’s one of those Stark reminders that as much as it looked like they were turning things around it’s still a work in progress with the big three being out there and getting those reps together Gerald is this your fault because you were back in

The building they play pretty well while you were gone I know I think I’m the problem they I last time I was in this building was Christmas and we all know what happened on Christmas so I I think it might be me I don’t know I think so Gerald

Unfortunately what was what was the sense from from Frank from book I mean is this is this a feel that that you can sense the frustration or is this still kind of the same we get it on to the next one we’ll be in LA tomorrow I think there’s a little bit of

Both I think it’s mostly frustration because this is a bad loss like there’s no way around it whether you know we could talk about this only being the fifth or sixth game with the big three whatever it is but it’s still an inexcusable loss like the Grizzlies have

Been playing better recently since jaw came back not having him out obviously is part of that but Marcus Smart is someone who wasn’t there the first two times they played uh he played really well I I think it’s a case of like this is an improved Grizzlies team the are

Just kind of a little dumbfounded I think in terms of like man we were turning it around what the hell happened like we we thought we had exercise some of these demons especially in the fourth quarter um and I think part of it like they might need to tweak the rotation a

Little bit because they’ve gone back to Devon Booker playing all of the first quarter all of the third quarter and then in the fourth quarter he comes in with only about six minutes left I think it’s hard to get in a flow then when the

Game the flow of the game has kind of changed and The Grizzlies make that run they’ve got to find a better lineup to start fourth quarters as well they had to go with sa and Lee to start that fourth quarter because Josh aogi was in foul trouble it’s just little things

Like that that add up and lead to you know a 14-1 run to start the fourth which is basically where that game was won and lost Gerald one of the things that I keep pointing out is we we’re now through 36 games and I have no idea what

The sun’s identity is like what what what are they like you know like we know that they have the offensive Firepower to be able to compat with everybody but defensively you know you thought Vogal was going to be able to Shore that up a little bit that’s been a rough go um and

From game to game we don’t know what they’re going to rely on in terms of shooting you know the turnovers have been kind of erratic rebounds you know like it just I don’t know when I look at this team what they are and do do you

Have any sense that do you have a sense of what you think that they are does do the players have any idea what their identity is supposed to be or what their goal is actually supposed to be in terms of that identity because I’m kind of

Lost when it comes to that I I think they have an idea of what they want to be and what they’re supposed to be they just haven’t been able to become that yet and I think that’s what’s so frustrating about tonight’s loss is that like the Grizzlies are not as bad as the

Portland Trailblazers team they lost to a few weeks ago or some of the really bad losses they have this season even with John Moran out but like they were putting Rhythm together they were putting on both ends of the floor really they looked great offensively and then defensively they were keeping opponents

Out of the paint which has been a big Focus they were doing better with their ball containment which has been a big focus and then tonight it just felt like kind of a step backward um especially in those second and fourth quarters in the non-book minutes and and it’s kind of

Hard to figure out what this team’s identity is because there are things that they say they want to do they want to shoot more threes they want to play faster all this stuff but they’re not playing at a fast pace really they’re only doing that when they get stops

They’re a very average team defensively they’re middle of the pack still and and probably took a step backward in that category tonight with this loss so it’s it’s hard to pinpoint you know the difference between what they want to be what they should be and what they

Currently are what they currently are is a team that still needs more reps together with the big three with their rotations that needs to stop turning the ball over and that honestly is going to be a little undersized I think the Grizzlies are a team that is suited to

Take advantage of that on the offensive glass when they’re starting that lineup with book Bradley Beal and Grayson Allen it’s a a weakness that Frank vogle has acknowledged but he feels like they have the offensive Firepower to overcome it the Grizzlies are a team that plays too

Big so that’s going to make it harder to get away with lineups like that so it’s also a matchup thing in this case I think hey G I I noticed this is something I noticed and I want your opinion on it like when we played against the Heat the other day the ball

Seemed to be zipping around there was a lot more movement just a a lot more flow to the offense and then Kevin comes back today and it felt like in a lot of spurts during the game it was very stagnant very youo Io youo Io kind of

Waiting for somebody to save the day or or for lack of better words waiting for Memphis to fold as opposed to just playing basketball and I kind of felt this way when they had book and KD playing and then Beal came back and was

In I think it was the Net game I kind of felt that do you sense any of that like I know they keep saying you know do they need more time together but I feel like my biggest problem is every time they start to build some time together you’ll

Have one of them go out for two games and then it’s like a re acclamation period for like a game where it just looks really weird and then he figured out do you see any of that no I think you nailed it and I think that’s kind of

Why I asked both book and KD about that you know the lack of reps together because the you know I understand like they have the talent to be able to overcome that type of stuff against a lot of teams um but the NBA doesn’t give you nights off anymore like there are

Very few teams in the NBA that you can look at and be like yeah that’s an easy win uh and I and I think that’s kind of showing a little bit the lack of continuity because it feels like every time they start to build towards something one of them goes out for a

Couple games like KD with the hammy in this case um it’s tough to keep starting from scratch and saying okay let’s build on this thing that we had a week ago now let’s build on it again and it’s tough I I I think they’re I think that they’re

Moving in the right direction like four- two on the home stand is pretty good they should have been five- one um this was a bad loss I’m not going to excuse that or beat around the bush with that but I do think overall over these last couple weeks they moved in the right

Direction now they just have to keep putting it together with Durant out there and I think that’ll take time CU like you said there is a your turn my turn kind of approach to the game right now the ball’s not moving and I think they need to figure out how to do that

Better with Kevin Durant on the floor um because he’s not a ball stopper he’s not a ball hog by any means but it does feel like you know the offense wasn’t moving as well the ball wasn’t moving as well tonight I I know earlier in the week Frank vogle had talked about tightening

Rotations and I get it there’s been some injuries but are you surprised uh that kbd has kind of gotten back in there and played uh more than we’ve seen him as of late over the last few games here I kind of feel like this is his last stand Drew

Eubanks got a similar chance is kind of shown back up but kbd is kind of flatlined again yeah I mean I’m not entirely surprised just because Nasir little being out has played a factor in that and then also like UDA not doing well the other night when he got an

Opportunity has kind of hurt like they they need a backup Wing in there and I think with Kevin Durant Al that really exacerbates the Wing rotation there so I think that’s kind of why he got his opportunity and then again tonight um so it’s one of those tough situations where

He’s done okay defensively but it’s the offensive end where you really need him to just knock down a three here or there he did hit one corner three but he do he hasn’t brought a lot on that end of the table and it’s kind of disappointing because there was it wasn’t that long

Ago that we were talking about him possibly competing for the fifth starting job um and now it’s kind of like okay is he going to get any minutes come playoff time I I don’t know if I see it right now yeah I’m not a big plus

Minus guy but I saw he’s a minus 103 in fourth quarters uh that ain’t great even even for somebody that doesn’t believe in that stat I know that says not good things so yeah definitely not hey Gerald I know that you had tweeted out Frank Fogle said that book’s ankle is fine but

That he hadn’t heard on the ribs yet when you talked to Devon did you ask him is he did he say he was feeling okay or anything yeah Dwayne asked him about the ankle and the ribs and he said he’s feeling fine gave his typical you know two-word response it’s fine afterwards

Like he’s never even if he his his foot could be chopped off underneath the podium and he’d never tell us he’d say it’s fine so I don’t we we’ll wait and see and hear from the team uh to get an official diagnosis on on the ribs especially because it did look like he

Was wincing in pain there he took a couple of shots for Marcus Smart down the stretch there the ribs um and the fact that Frank boogo kind of mentioned the ribs specifically was interesting to me but uh we’ll see hopefully it’s nothing too severe uh the back toback

Tomorrow doesn’t help though yeah uh I just want to round this out and get your a gauge on where you are uh personally about this game on a scale of one to 10 like where where are you sitting about this game like concern level um probably

Like a five or a six honestly like it’s it’s a bad game don’t get me wrong but they’ve been better over this stretch I think there’s still that acclamation process that we were talking about with the big three and there’s no excuse they have more than enough talent to beat a

Team like this it’s a bad loss um but I do think it’s going to take more time than we were hoping or anticipating to get three Superstar talents on the same page to where it’s all flowing offensively and and we saw we’ve seen it with that starting group in particular

For the most part in the first three games they played together but again this was only the fourth time we’ve seen that starting lineup together so it’s going to take a little bit of time yeah can I address one thing before we go Lindsay I’ve seen in the chat a lot of

People saying this is just a terrible rebounding team it’s been like that all year statistically it’s not the truth they’re middle of the pack team in in rebounds averaging 43.5 which will go up tonight because they had more than that uh and they going into tonight’s game

Allowed the fewest rebounds of any team in the NBA like I said earlier at 40.5 so this is not a case of this is just a horrible rebounding team that has not been the way it’s played out tonight they could have been significantly better but that is not the way this is

Played out all year Gerald I just wanted to make you proud bringing up statistics I’m so proud you sided plus minus and you brought up rebounding stats look at you go yeah well you know what statistics can you know what because I used statistics for my bet today and that [ __ ] didn’t work

So they’re trash they’re trash that’s all I’m gonna say Gerald thanks for coming by and providing us the information that we so desperately desire from players and coaches everyone make sure you give him a follow on social Gerald Borg and of course go read his stuff over at

Go.com bye Gerald peace out bye guys all right let’s take a peek at the rest of our super chats here we’ve got one from my Kafka they said Can anyone recall an NBA team built around three players that had this much turmoil with one or two of The Big Three sitting

Out I mean I don’t know if it’s turmoil yeah that’s the wrong word I yeah turmoil probably isn’t yeah I mean that that would that would mean like they have a lot of off the court shenan well I mean turmoil is also like just dealing with a lot of it’s just

Injuries yeah that’s all it is it’s just injuries like I don’t think that’s turmoil okay I I I don’t think it was the same but like the the Miami Heat the first year had their up and down ups and downs they didn’t start they didn’t start out so hot I think they started

Off like eight and 12 or something like that so I mean I’d have to go back and research to find specific examples you know the the big threes that stick out in your mind are the ones that worked but you could argue go back and look at the first

Brooklyn big three what was it kg kg Joe Johnson and Paul P like they that group struggled mindedly uh the LA the Nash Nash they struggled like I granted those aren’t good examples the way it ended but those are examples nonetheless of of groups of three that uh that struggled

That the first big three that I could recall like in terms of free agency and trade getting was the Celtics with the kg Paul Pierce and and and Ray Allen that worked out and they went to the finals two years in a row but that was such a rare breef

Of guys cuz all three of them had different styles um and when you look at this team like you have three guys that can shoot from the mid they could shoot from all three levels for sure but like Beal and book are kind of the same a

Little bit and then the way KD goes about his game in book they kind of run into each other a little bit there’s a lot of crossover with those three so it’s hard to identify like what each one should be doing uh more often than not

And so they’ll work it out it’s just it’s going to be it’s going to be a chore prush said Dre kaminga CP3 for Beal salary and all seconds no that’s he got he’s got to be joking he’s got to be joking I don’t think he’s joking what

Wouldn’t matter CP CP CP just got like hand surgery yeah he fractured his hand his hand he’s out like we’re not getting CP no uh the haunted kiwi I love that name says at the end of the day 500 teams don’t win titles okay true I mean yeah but no team

Wins titles in January say that too that’s right yeah Fair goto tech review sent us another one they said West is still tight but we need some urgency I couldn’t agree more no one’s running away in the west yes no one running away in the west that’s the luckiest thing

About this is you still you can still wind up in in a top four spot if you get hot at a certain point because it’s so so bunched up so that’s the that’s the biggest bright spot I think is you’re still within and there’s times that I think that’s part of what’s Happening

Like there’s times that I think that there part that there there are days where I wonder if this West was tighter I not tighter but if there was someone separating or it was a clear-cut team do you rest some of these guys as much as you rest them right are they you’re like

You know Kevin take another day off oh book take another day off oh Eric Gordon take some time make sure it’s right like there’s a lot of that going on and so that makes me feel like are they really in that sense of urgency mode or they

Just looking at the landscape and saying man we know when we’re healthy we can compete with any of these teams there’s no one running away and so get all this Kinks out early and let’s see what happened again I’m not trying to make an excuse but I’m just saying that’s that’s

What it is right now no one’s running away with anything I mean the Lakers played last night right the Lakers play last night and Lebron after the game said we just suck right now like they and now they’re beating the Clippers they’re tied right oh well they just

Went up 101 98 41 seconds left so you know it there’s still plenty of time there’s always a reason to be optimistic nobody’s saying that the suns are going to win the championship nobody’s saying that they’re going to be the number one or two seed that they’re going to figure

This all out and they’re going to just obliterate everybody nobody’s saying that but you know I do expect him to get better and I hope to see better basketball moving forward especially in the fourth quarter I think that I think that that is a realistic expectation I agree thunderstand brought

Up the Lakers Clippers said if the Lakers beat the clips cherry on the cake tonight yeah and the clips are on the back toback too I know that’s kind of cheating a little bit because he’s staying home he’s playing I get that yeah but it’s only a 45 minute flight

From here too not far so yeah we’re getting a Clippers team on the back toback as well so we’ll see how it go it’s the even playing field yeah all right goto tech review sent us one they said chat needs some chill and some Call of Duty tonight tonight for real for

Real winky face emoji I’m going home to decompress I think we should all go home right now or when we wrap up here maybe play a little Call of Duty Whatever video game is your video game of choice or just something else that you know take a bath I got go

Answer questions I gotta ask my guy to the left here do whatever you got what’s the go-to what’s the go-to decompression right now when you go home I don’t think you can say that no for real I’m keeping it real what’s the goto like you go home

Not going right to sleep what’s the go-to I just I take some I take 10 milligrams of ogs and I go sit company man look at this guy that’s it man that’s what you doing I chill man yeah what do you do I know I’d literally go

Home take a hot shower and find like a show on Netflix for a couple hours I don’t go to bed till about 2:3 in the morning especially on Game Nights oh yes now now we understand your performance on these shows you stay till 3:00 a.m I see how it is oh [ __ ]

Trade ESO what’s yours read a book talk to my wife watch some TV okay different options I either play fortnite y’all know I love that you do play fortnite I do or if I had an actual see this is why I can’t because I have a switch I can’t

Get an actual gaming console cuz I would play Call of Duty all the time like fortnite is fun don’t get me wrong but if I was at the level of Call of Duty I would play it all the time you would I would play it all the time so why I got

To stick with fortnite because it’s like it’s not has so if we put Call of Duty in office you you you probably get down I would totally play I’ve never played it before let go I’ve never played it before go because I know I would be hooked that’s why I haven’t played it

I’ve been I’ve always my whole life been a video game person we do okay or Tik toks you know we love some good Tik toks to fall asleep too I scroll until I get the message it’s like hey are you scrolling and then I’m like you’re right

I gotta go back so okay whatever it is that you guys got to do to have a little bit of chill uh make sure you guys do that thank you all for joining us today we appreciate you uh for hanging out with us we’ll be back tomorrow cuz we

Got another game like we said against the Clippers so plan to come hang out with us we’ll have a pregame show 30 minutes before uh the game tips off and of course a postgame show and y’all can talk trash about me all you want for playing fortnite I don’t care it’s fun

Larry Larry Le has got it what what lar he nailed it he said smoke hit the ball and sip some Crown Apple whatever you got to do Larry Lewis we support you all right guys uh thanks for hanging out with us don’t forget to give the

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The Phoenix Suns and Devin Booker fall to the Memphis Grizzlies and Jaren Jackson Jr. 121-115. The Grizzlies were without Ja Morant and the Suns had Kevin Durant back in the lineup but they could not string together four solid quarters to secure the win. The Grizzlies outshot the Suns from deep and out rebounded them when it mattered the most. Join the PHNX Suns Podcast for the Suns vs Grizzlies postgame show to break it all down. Don’t forget to follow the show on social @PHNX_Suns.

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19 Comments

  1. From what I see the rest of the NBA doesn't respect the Suns toughness. The Grizzlies just went inside the paint, out rebounded and turned over the suns in the 4th at will, when the game was on the line, just as easy as the local grade school bully dispenses wedgies to the geeks anytime they want.

  2. It's time we send a message to NBA we don't want game fixing no more fans need to start letting NBA though sings to stop the game fixing

  3. Grizz fan here. KD was not a focal point of the offense for a large stretch of the game. Lotta randos putting up shots tonight that played in our favor

  4. Grizzlies fan here. I hear a lot of stats being thrown out about the Grizzlies but it’s really important to keep in mind that the Grizzlies played most of the season not just without Ja but without Marcus Smart, Luke Kennard, Santi Aldama, Derrick Rose, and even missed their backup Xavier Tillman for a stretch. Those stats don’t really mean squat about the team. They were literally playing half the G-league

  5. There are simply just missing pieces on this team. You can see it every game. They're trying to scrape by off the starter's talent.

  6. This crew always has a “oh well” perspective on losing games as if they really believe this team is a legit contender. Not sure how many more turnover-filled, horrible defensive and offensive meltdowns you guys are going to watch before you admit this team ain’t it.

    Booker and Beal are redundant. Neither are even close to good enough to be starting point guards nor are they good defenders, especially off-ball. Until the Suns pair Booker with a Marcus Smart or Jrue Holiday type player along with a better-than-ass bench, this team isn’t going anywhere

    Lindsey btw is completely unserious by trying to make this out to be a game against a very tough and gritty team. lol if the Suns were legit championship contenders, they wouldn’t be phased by that. Just look at the Celtics who blow out every “gritty” team

  7. Beal is a dog. No doubt. But hes a third option sorry. Him having the ball and having so many shots in clutch time in a team with durant and book is absurd to me

  8. Like the old lineup of the show better. New guy doesn't add anything and has hurt the chemistry.

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