The Bulls Should NOT Trade Zach Lavine…..Reacting to Hot Takes
It has been months since we’ve done a hot tis video if you’ve been following the channel for a while you know I used to do these every week but I feel like they started getting a little stale with some of the same takes coming in every
Week but given we haven’t done one of these in a while the bull season is kind of turning around yet at the same time still a middle of the road team so I wanted to get your guys’ thoughts see where your head is at in assessing this
Roster and so I asked for you guys to give me some of your hottest takes on the channel Community Tab and we’ve got some good ones and it was a lot of Tak so apologies if I don’t get to yours but I’ll try to get to as many of these as I
Can so what’s going on everyone you’re listening to Bull Central here hope you’re all doing well real quick I don’t do this often but if you like this type of content whether you’ve been watching for a while or just starting to tune in consider subscribing cuz about 53% of
You watching are not subscribed helps me grow the channel deliver quality content to you guys and I would really appreciate it now this first take comes to us from Iowa all day if Zach continues to play the way he has been and although it’s only been three games
So he could go back to his old ways but if he continues to play the way way he has been I think we should keep him if he’s playing defense passing facilitating and not just playing ISO I definitely think we should keep him but I also wouldn’t be mad for a full
Rebuild so I did get a lot of similar takes like this things like maybe the Bulls should keep Zach if he can play like this this version of Zach can unlock what the Bulls need all of that and while I do agree that yes if Zach is
Going to keep playing like this locked in an engag not even just on defense which has been huge because we don’t see that often from Zach but not just on defense on offense as well well people forget Zach leading up to that trade request if you want to call it that he
Looked checked out on this team was taking bad shots playing selfish basketball not getting guys involved but if Zach can be this engaged a focused player in doing whatever he can to help this team win and buying into what this team is trying to do buying into the
Style of basketball they want him to play then yes I agree things need to be reconsidered as it relates to trading him but also just for the future of this team that said though the biggest thing that gives me pause in all of this is that I can’t shake the fact that Zach
Wanted to be traded he made it clear he wanted to go elsewhere and while I’m a Believer in people changing and obviously when you start winning that changes a lot of things but Zach more or less said he’s done here and unless he makes it clear to the front office and
The coaching staff hey you know what I was in a bad way to start the season I wasn’t playing well the team was losing I reacted In the Heat of the Moment I do still want to be here I’m committed to this team and will do whatever is needed
To help the team win until that happens and hey maybe it already has in private but until that happens it’s hard for me to believe that we won’t eventually see Zach going back to his old ways because keep in mind this is still a really small sample size and as I’ve said
Before that second game against Charlotte wasn’t anything to write home about it’s this most recent game against the rockets that has suddenly had everyone’s opinion change about Zach and it just seems a bit reactionary to me as if we forgotten everything that happened at the start of the Year this next one
Comes to us from Logan chest now Kobe white is a top 10o guard in the NBA oh man uh it’s a good hot take definitely hot but not absurd I don’t know if I would put Kobe in the top 10 yet that’s not to say that he can’t eventually get
There but there are just so many good point guards in the NBA I mean you have halberton Darren Fox Steph Dame Luca uh SGA Jaylen Brunson Tyrese Maxi I mean those are just some of the guys that come off the top of my head and that’s
Almost 10 right there I don’t think we can put Kobe top 10 he’s not far off I think in the top 15 would be more realistic but again he’s young he’s having a breakout season if he continues on this progress that we’ve been seeing he’ll be right on his way no question I
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We’ve got David jwa 555 keep Zack and trade Demar which is what I’ve been saying all along so I figur we would get some of these types of takes after the game against the Rockets here’s the thing and I’ll go back to what I said earlier it all depends on whether Zach
Wants to be here if Zach still wants to be traded then no why would you keep him keep him around to see if you can still convince him to stay like we still don’t know if this quote unquote new version of Zach where he’s engaged and playing
Well on both ends of the floor as a team player is just to increase his trade value to ensure that he gets traded Zach and his agent they know the market for him was pretty dismal when he was sitting on the bench with injury and they likely knew that there was a world
Where the Bulls wouldn’t move him if they couldn’t get much for him in return so while I love the way that Zach has been playing I love that he’s playing more team basketball I also don’t know if he’s doing this for the team or if he’s doing this to ensure that he gets
Traded he’s incentivized right now to not only play better for himself but also for his trade value I’d like to think that he’s just doing what he can for his teammates and trying to help the guys win but we don’t know we don’t know what his motives are and then as far as
Demar D roen I mean again a lot of this is reactionary because after Zach went down and dear was playing at a high level being more defal IAL and getting the most out of the young guys people were talking about man we should keep dear as this veteran leader for the
Young guys people were talking about extending him I just again a lot of this is reactionary prisoner of the moment that said though yeah I do still think it would make sense to trade dear if you can get decent value for him on an expiring contract because he’s not going
To be a part of the Bulls long-term plans and if he’s not going to take you to the next level then what are we doing here this next one comes to us from avoid coou okay uh but they say the only way I see the Bulls being a fun team is
If you trade Caruso for picks Demar for cam Johnson in a first round pick draft bronny Bulls need draft capital and some hope for the future they middle the road again well I won’t deny that the Bulls need draft capital for the future and a
Bit of a retool to this roster but yeah this isn’t the way to do it I’ve said many times I don’t think it’s worth trading Caruso unless you get a sizable haul for him in the form of multiple first round picks and I just don’t see any team offering that much for Alex
Guso and if you can’t get that for him then it’s not worth it Demar for cam Johnson in the first I mean why would the Nets ever do that why would effectively a rebuilding team they’re one of the biggest struggling teams in basketball right now why would they
Trade away one of their younger players and a pick for Demar in an expiring contract just doesn’t make any sense for the Nets and then drafting Brony I mean what so you can get maybe one good season of LeBron when he’s 40 and then have a player you likely can’t build
Around for the future it’ll sell tickets for sure it’ll get butts in the United Center I’m sure ownership would love going after bronny for that reason alone but no I don’t think that this move makes the Bulls suddenly a fun team again next we’ve got this one it’s the
Medical Department that’s holding this franchise back the most the history of our players being injured is no coincidence but a lack of skill from the medical staff um this is an odd one because well I think you could have a case for this in years past but more
Recently aside from Lonzo ball the Bulls have actually been very lucky when it comes to health and being very durable last season the Bulls had no major injuries to their core so far this season it’s only been Zach who’s missed some time and now Tory Craig for being a
Relatively older team compared to the rest of the NBA and keeping their big three mostly healthy in that span is actually pretty impressive and then the injury to Lonzo I mean that has just kind of been a freak thing that no one could have expected nor was it anything
They could really control I don’t blame the medical staff for that unfortunately Lonzo ball has just always been an injury-prone player since entering the NBA and that was a risk the front office took by bringing in a player with his injury history next we’ve got give Kobe
His keys nice the take is Billy Donovan’s biggest weakness in his coaching is he can’t handle balancing a team with multiple Stars I don’t know if I would say that his biggest weakness though because I feel like surprisingly he’s okay at managing star egos the biggest weakness is that he lets his
Stars do too much and doesn’t have the backbone to tell them when they’re doing something wrong he relies on the Stars too much to just take over games when they need it and to me seems like a bit of a pushover in having those hard conversations with star players he’s a
Player coach which is good sometimes but it can also be your downfall when it leads to players feeling entitled to do whatever they want next we’ve got the Jude 23 both do nothing at the trade deadline you know I was talking about this with my guy s from the Bulls gold
Podcast on the channel check out the Pod if you missed it by the way but I was talking about how it wouldn’t shock me if the Bulls simply did nothing at the deadline I mean we’ve seen them do it before they didn’t make any moves the last two deadlines even though everyone
Knew something even a small move on the margins needed to happen but to no avail and honestly with the way the team is playing slowly making their way back up in the standings they’re back in the playing picture guys are starting to play Better Together The Vibes are good
And also given the fact that the Bulls the front office anyway always seem to overvalue their players when it comes to the trade market I can see them finding themselves in a situation where they say eh we’re not really getting good offers why trade these guys when we’re playing
Better why not stick with the continuity approach let’s see how these guys finish out the season and regroup an assess in the off season it honestly would not Shock Me I’ll be pissed because even though the Bulls are playing better they still need to make changes to this group
Still a lot of holes and weaknesses in the roster so I’ll be pissed if they do nothing but it really wouldn’t surprise me if that ends up being the case it is a good hot take though because I feel most people assume the Bulls will no
Question make some kind of Splash of the deadline and to that I reply not so fast we know how this team has operated before the deadline anyway guys I’m going to end it there for this edition of your Bulls hot takes keep firing away the takes I’ll try to get more of these
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Thank you for responding to my hot take. Looking back at it I agree that was a little too hot. Top 15 is where he realistically fits in
Hot take: lavine has declined as a player since having his first child
With how LaVine has been playing, I still think trading him should be on the table. Like the main dish. However, if he continues playing like he’s changed, maybe it will be removed from the menu.
All yall forget how Zach was KILLIN BEFORE DEMAR CAME TO THE BULLS!! I MEAN HE SCORED 51 POINTS IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE DETROIT GAME N THEY STILL…..LOSE. SECOND DeMar n Zach weren't getting along. At the first part of this season. DeMar is a gun n his shooting this season has been bad. Zach's was too. DeMar started passing the rock as soon as Zach went out. Yall didn't NOTICE THAT ??? NOW IF THEY CAN KEEP THIS WAVE GOING WATCH OUT!! KOBE HAS BEEN KILLIN!!! PAT WILL FINALLY STEPPIN' UP!! AN DRUMMOND IS THE MAN. PAY THAT DUDE!!! AN GET HIM MORE TIME. WHEN HE IS IN THERE HE KILLS. ( I KNOW THAT WILL BE HARD CONSIDERING VUCC GOT PAID ALL DAT MONEY) THEY ARE COMIN' TOGETHER AT THE RIGHT TIME!!! FANS DESERVE BETTER. LET'S GO BULLS!!!!
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Zach will not adapt the team and his character will not change. We need to accept things. I believe DeRozan is more effective without him as well. We need to trust the team and Coby White.
I told you @bullscentral Zach has been such a professional, off the court. He’s definitely still our best three point shooter. We should look to trade away derozan for a power forward
Demar iso play at the end of close games is ridiculous. Billy needs to get that bs under control
#vucevicout
Hell no get Zack ass out of here
I still think if Lavine is cool with staying for the season, trade him in the offseason. He can play better to show his trade value, that’s a win for the team and him, The team is still a 1st round exit team (at very best) and nothing great or amazing will happen while his trade value is low. No need to be hasty.
That guy did not say trade Demar because it's in the moment I have been saying the same thing since we got Demar we need to trade him he has been slowing down this offense for 3 years he has made Zack number two to him destroying the offense why do you think Zach gave up on the team in the first place because he doesn't want to play number two to a guy that can't lead anyone to a championship and that is documented even Toronto traded him to win a championship
#GOBULLS This team can match up with ANY team in the NBA whenever they play up to their potential
Zach is playing right now for teams to WANT to trade for him. He didnt expect his draft stock to be so low
No one good game doesn't equal Zach staying on the bulls. he has been disappointing since the start of the season. The bulls need a full restart meaning the front office, some players, and the coach. Yes he played well and yes he might keep it up, but I just don't trust it personally.
When has Lavine ever had a 25 13 7 3 game – probably never – so that just tells me he has been slacking all those years – just thinking about himself – WTF man – He is just trying to get his name right because his game was tarnished once the Bulls started winning w/o him – don’t let him fool you – If he keeps putting up these numbers – that just tells me he was not going 100% all those other years – ruining Bulls chances of winning with Lauri-Dunn-Carter-Portis etc. – Let him GO!!!
Stop sac needs him 😭😭 just kidding glad to see you guys figuring it out
Colby killing it
Zach is a great player but I just feel he wants a change scenery. I want Moody, Kuminga and some picks 👍🏾
Zack will go back to his old ways get rid of him! He’s been playing for the bulls way to long
Hot Take:
Bulls should trade Jevon Carter for Thadeus Young straight up.
For the Raptors, they get a younger guy who can compliment Scottie Barnes and can shoot well.
For the Bulls, they get some leadership out of Thad and another hustle guy which is great to have whether they rebuild or focus on continuity. Also helps to give us some depth at the PF position.
Yes. I believe Zach quit on the team earlier in the season and that's simply not acceptable in spite of recent play I don't want Zach in Chicago anymore
1. A leopard doesnt change his spots.
2. We're paying a 2nd option (we've proven he can't lead) three or more times as much as probably any other player on the roster. The knock-on effect of that is HUGE.
A better player than Zach will already make, or expect to make, as much as Zach or more. Thats $80-90M, or more, on two players. The cap is $136M. So, at best, you're trying to spread $50M (or less) across 13 other players. Thats about $4M per player or less.
If Zach played a democratic styl of ball by nature, like an SGA or Jalen Brunson, there's a chance you can have a ball-sharing 'Big Two' with Zach being half of that tandem. You might justify taking that risk.
Thats NOT the player Zach is, by nature.
Zach had a career high 14 assists way back in 2014. On at least one other occasion, he has had 13.
Its Year 10. We know who he is. There is something that some fans find SOOOOO sexy abiut Zach that they rationalixe and excuse EVERYTHING he does wrong.
Dude is 28 and people wanna argue that hes still developing his game.
Thats delusion and dysfunction. Its like codependence or something.
Let him go.
Ive been saying Demar needed to go since November 2022 and they should go all in on Zach. It is too late now as he requested a trade. That said, if nothing else, im not interested in seeing Pat get his minutes cut and be expected to make miracles from being sat in a corner and making cuts. We saw a stretch with him averaging over 15 on the same 10-12 shots per game. I'm not ready to see the Bulls fk that up again. He was supposed to grow with us when drafted and AKME pivoted and stunted his growth. People complain about him not being assertive but he has shown us with minutes and touches his production scales efficiently. Lets move to the new guys. Coby is our 1. Now we need to see if Pat can be the 1b.
I feel like Coby needs to be the vocal point of the offense going forward even with Zach on the floor this make us more deadly and takes the pressure off of each other when they are playing this good cuz the apposing team doesn’t know what to do but people gotta understand the good come with the bad so don’t expect every game to be like last night we will have games where we not connecting on our shots or executing our game plan
I feel the best exact same as you. Zach's loyalty to the bulls is to questionable for me… Bulls could play their cards right and improve Zach's trade value but who knows if that will help. Unless Zach can accept less of a role and humble him self a bit I don't know man.. Tough situation.
Hot take trade for dejounte Murray
Your and so called fans take on Billy Donovan seems bias but with what intent exactly? Seems kinda delusional to think you have valid points on BD but he's been a successful coach for a long time in this league. I can't tell myself AKME and the Bulls organization got it wrong with this coach!?! Noah won two titles with him in college and has nothing but praise… He had enough guts to sit Zach and hasn't lost this locker room like some coaches around the league may have. BD's been telling you how he expects this team to play and when they show you that via A.Ball's pre injury and post he still get the hate!?! I said it before and will say it again this was a player/personnel issue not coaching lacks by BD… Move on! SMH
I'm not opposed to trading Lavine but he locked in… Deebo a free agent this year we need to get some players or picks before he goes and we get nothing.