Mavs Family Meeting: Fire Jason Kidd? What’s Going Wrong & What Can Change for the Dallas Mavericks?

Mavs Family Meeting: Fire Jason Kidd? What’s Going Wrong & What Can Change for the Dallas Mavericks?

On today’s show was the Mavs collapse against the Sun Signs of bigger issues that need to be addressed is it time to move on from Jason kid and why have the Mavs been so bad lately we’ll talk about that in more on today’s lock on Mavs I’m

Luka donic and this is lock on maveri Mavericks NBA champions it’s good and the Mavericks have won the game if you don’t believe you shouldn’t be here loyalty never Fades away And welcome you are locked on to the Dallas Mavericks my name is Nick angad media member MBA channel manager of the locked on podcast Network your team every day thanks for being part of the show Making locked on maps your first listen today especially after a loss

Like that man real one right there but the best way you can help us grow the show is to listen every day leave a five star review like the video and comment anything below let us know in the comment section is it time for the Mavs

To move on from Jason kid or what other move should be made give me the alternative you don’t think so joining me as always now on a f on a Thursday Friday whichever whenever you’re listen to this from B Sports Southwest what you got for me Dana Larson I’ll be here any

Day that you need me and you still sound a little sad today Nick I have to say I was hoping maybe after the the 24h hourish cooling period maybe you you know you would wake up everybody would feel a little bit better blood pressure back to

Normal no not yet instead instead I woke up with a head cold it’s like it’s like my it’s like my brain is getting squeezed right in the it’s like I’m my my brain is a lemon I’m just getting Juiced right now that’s what it feels like miserable miserable I’m so sorry

But we will try to lift you up and other sad Mavs fans today we’re going to talk through it we’ll talk through it we’ll have the hard conversations right this is like something in the family happens you know like someone says something that they’re not supposed to to somebody

Else you’re like all right let’s sit down at the table it’s all out in the open and we’ll talk about it we’ll talk about Jason kid is it time to move on would that be a big mistake if the Mavs did that we’ll talk through that the

Mavs since November 14th are 16 and 18 let’s talk about it let’s let’s go through the reasons why the are what things are solvable in that situation and all that but I want to start here Dana the Mavs lose to the Suns and it just felt like the worst loss ever even

Though on paper it it wouldn’t have been like the worst one Luke Kyrie was out they had the healthy Suns team suns have been playing really well you’d normally look at a game like that and go ah man schedule loss SL injury loss slash you know Sun’s got hot you know whatever you

Want to call it but the way that it happened and the way that it broke down so clearly seemed like it was signs of bigger issues what did you take from that that 44 basically basically 44 point collapse right in the middle of that game okay so let’s lay down on the

Couch and begin the therapy session here together okay should I actually lay down there you go um yeah so much buildup for this game obviously and a high-profile week at home right and it starts with Boston in in a measuring stick game and then Phoenix okay fine you know they

Don’t get the win against Boston but now you’re back in the Western Conference against a rival and a game that really really matters and you know you could you could secure the season series right here and you know make a big statement and you know they’re hot streak so there

I think there was so much buildup with the potential for this game and there is all of this narrative about these two teams being these Rivals which it feels like I don’t know if the players actually truly believe any of that but boy they play into it they play like

They do there was play like they do there was a moment in the game where Dante exm and Bradley Beal were like going at each other after a whistle at like there was a free throw being taken and like Bradley beill was upset that Dante XM was like stepping over the

Three-point line or something and he kept pointing at him and they kept going back and I was like these guys have been on this team for like 20 minutes and they are already getting into they’re already getting into it it’s like you walk in you get your locker in the with

Your new team and you’re told and now you hate the Phoenix Suns or now you hate the Dallas Mavericks everything irritated everybody in that game and and you know that was fun for fans and it was and brought the entertainment level up even more but it did not play in the

Favor of the Mavericks who obviously were unable to keep their cool and their composure and I think that was the biggest issue that comes out of that game is seeing now and and as Jason kid said it’s a trend Unfortunately they saw it in the Boston game and then even

Talked about it that’s the thing it’s like a parent that’s like we talked about this already you’re supposed to be working on this and aware of this right we talked about this and two days later you do the exact same thing so did you not hear anything I said right so I

Think there was just all of this building up and then boiling over the top and you know you’ve got Luca donic your absolute leader who’s setting the tone for everything and I think that he is he mentally and physically probably pretty spent at this point he’s been

Playing with a lot of bumps and bruises and banged up and and he’s being asked to do ton and he is an Elite Talent who can carry a team but you could sense that um he’s not right physically he’s being picked on defensively the Maverick’s not really able to find ways

To help him with that and it felt like it did just reach a boiling point and I think what was the wording Jason kid used too about it that um uh sometimes you short circuit that really hit home to me afterwards he said sometimes you just short circuit and they they lost

Focus everybody did and I think that’s the biggest thing to come out of this game is you’ve got to absorb body blows and come back swinging times are tough in the NBA hard games tough opponents You’re Gonna Miss shots other teams players are G to get hot right so it’s

It’s this team has got to find a way to be able to deal with those things and something I wish I said after the game last night with when I was on with slightly is that from the jump from the first quarter from the very beginning of

This game every single play mattered so it felt like a playoff atmosphere in there now probably like a first round playoff first round playoff game but it felt like it where everything mattered everything was so big the the crowd was so into it like every bad call there was

People all over around me in the section I was sitting in standing up after every call that that usually usually people yell from a seated position I’m here to hang out and chill and watch this game but if you’re really into it you stand up every single time right like every

Play that happens every call that that’s wrong that you think and this is these players that have been playing are young the team has gotten young almost overnight it seems like Luca 24 Grant Williams 25 sometimes acts like he’s 35 sometimes act like he’s 15 depend

Depends on the day you’ve got you know Josh Green Jaden Hardy Derrik Lively all playing in this game uh exm is just coming back into the NBA you know he’s not the youngest but still DK Jones Jr’s minimum contract working his way hopefully into a bigger deal and like

Kyrie didn’t play so you all of a sudden have this like young rotation in this game that was in this huge moment not a lot of not a lot of playoff experience with some of the younger guys too Luca and Grant Williams obviously do but not

A lot of the rest of the guys and so for it to break open the way that it did it kind of makes sense that it was just so fast and so like efficient how far it broke down cuz there this team has done that anyway but the fact that it was so

Bad and like so embarrassing and so like uh related like so relatable to other losses you know made sense to me it just was disappointing to see it happen so badly the way that it did agree and and to see like you always say finish halves strong right finish the first half

Strong and they and they let Phoenix go on like a 152 run 153 I can’t remember and it was down to a one point halftime lead and you just all right that’s fine you know just don’t let your foot off the gas and that’s when you know luuk is

Walking off and he and he’s getting a tech on the way out and they come back out and could not stop deid Booker and they could not make a shot it was just a it was a recipe for you know a disaster unfortunately and that’s why there’s

Just they’ve they’ve got to find you know moments from these kind of Ls losses and collapses that you can use the next time because they they just have to learn from these things and they have to find a way to grow from them they do they’ve got to take that

Next step and to me like it’s for them to win a playoff series now I’m I’m kind of thinking that they have to grow from this this season like I think this is sort of a quote unquote Gap year where I don’t expect them to win the title but I

Expect them to take a step forward definitely a step forward from last year but take a step forward and if if they’re going to win a first round Series this is these these types of games are things they have to learn from because it’s it can’t just be it’s kind

Of what what they did two years ago where they win a playoff game big and then they lose the next game bad and then they like the BL that sun series was all basically blowouts two years ago anyway U but coming up let’s talk about if this is all signs of bigger things

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The show part of the raccoon Squad listening every day appreciate each and every one of you especially on a on a day like this or just feels I got to text on the subtext line this morning Nick I’m giving up on the Mavericks for a while it’s affecting my mental health

It’s affecting it’s affecting me personally I’m being I’m getting short with people I get that but we’re here to try and talk you through it let’s work through it as a as a family basically and work through do you think that the a collapse like last night do you do you

Think that that’s something they need to work through this season or it’s something that they can take it take through the rest of the season try and work on and then mature in the offseason because we did see Luca and this team you know mature in the off seon but is

Is that too late for them to work on this kind of issue I just think this is something that is not hard to work on so to me I I really feel like it it’s you focus on it it’s talked about you know you can be Uber competitive you can be

Super passionate you could be all of those things but you also you also can be really focused those are not things that are desparate right those those kid and that is what makes people great at what they do if you can combine those things so to me I just I don’t think

It’s like oh you got to be you know 28 to to be mature and have composure no I mean I think these are things that really if you just if you want to you can fix it I don’t think it’s that hard where does that where do you think that

Comes from does it come from coach you know we’ll talk about Jason kid a little bit but does it come from the top down there does it come from your leaders on theor floor it feels like everybody last night in the the depressor was like asking like okay where does this come

From like it’s obviously a problem but like where does it get addressed yes I’m sure there it’s your whole support staff right and and that is coaching and that is probably your family that is all of the people that are around you um that are watching you

Right we don’t blame the families of the players enough and I’m not putting blame on them I’m just saying you are certainly there you know to to those people that you look to right um whether it’s it’s you know the your parents or your your loved ones

Your spouse whatever that you come home to I I think honestly all of those people can help it’s your support staff around you and to me um the maybe the coaching and I don’t know how how much you want to get into that right now but

Um and for somebody like you know these Superstar players it has to be someone you have the utmost respect for to really Listen to Because when you’re as good as you are as good as these Elite Superstars are you know you it’s it’s probably hard to want to take in what

Just anybody is telling you you need to do because you’ve just been better than everybody else most of your life you know but this is I think Luca has extremely high goals for his career and I I think it doesn’t take very much to

See that if you want to be an MVP win a championship this is something that has to become part of how you lead a team and it and and it’s not just Luca certainly but I mean to me I think it’s pretty obvious I think it’s one of those

Things that um he he he understands I you know there you look at the greats the all-time greats they had to work through some of this stuff too but ultimately you have to understand it is part of it we might as well get into the kid

Stuff now cuz we’re we’re into it now Mavs fans think that it is Jason kid that he’s the he’s the one from the top down and I think a lot of it stems from and I’m probably I’m sorry Dana I’m probably responsible for some for some

Of this because of the quotes and the things that we’ve talked about and how J you know they I’m not playing I’m watching just like you guys this from last year you’ve got the you got to ask them I’m just the coach you know them things like that like those types of

Quotes that we hear from Jason kid I think the the op pressors and the the like the visible part of Jason kid is only about 10 15% of what you actually see of what a coach does and so it’s hard to see those things and to see him

Say th see things like that see him maybe not take responsibility publicly to the media whether that matters or not and get frustrated that man why doesn’t he hold them accountable why doesn’t he get why doesn’t he scream in a ref’s face and like get emotional and show

Some emotion behind it and try you know try and take this team where they need to be would moving on from from Jason kid mid-season do you think that would be a mistake at this point oh yes it would be a complete mistake because for for one there’s been enough chaos this

Season already just in terms of all of the injuries they’ve had to deal with um you know can you’ve got to at some point try to lock in with your group hope you get healthy you know and try to figure out what that actually looks like um I

Don’t know I don’t think that and and I don’t even think he’s been here long enough to do that yet plus he is uh you know he is the one who has absolute commands that kind of respect from Kyrie Irving and from Luca donic and you have

To have relationships you have to be able to have those relationships now to me um you are asking Jason kid to try to be someone he simply is not I know that there’s the frustrations behind the koi answers in press conferences and it feels like we want to hear more from him

In those situations and we certainly don’t know what at all is being said behind closed doors with him and his players um Jason kid has never been somebody who’s a yeller he has not as a Player No not as a coach it is not who

He is um and it is not probably what coaches with this generation really can be um either you you you see that many coaches that are out there screaming and yelling and and the way he worked referees as a player was not by yelling at them um in fact you know you would

Wish that Luca would probably learn to to do it the way he did it which was much more casually uh much more you know out of public Vision because that’s what you you look like you’re you’re standing up the refs right and you’re making a public show of it and that’s never going

To get you what you want so to me you know there are there are things that Jason kid brings to the table and a lot of that has to do with his direct relationships with those two stars and you need to be able to give that a

Little more time and I’m sorry that you’re not getting the the you know and you’re probably a uh kind of passionate person right I’m the same way I can speak to that I have a husband who’s a lot like Jason kid and it’s infuriating right to those of us who are very you

Know kind of animated or whatever and you see how could somebody just be standing there so calmly it’s it makes you crazy but you cannot make them be anything other than they are right it’s it’s kind of wild to me that we come to this decision we I’m saying like Mavs

Fans people that love the Mavs where you say man this team they just they have such wild emotional swings and they they’re so high and so low and they you know they lose their composure where and then you have a coach who stays so even keeled the whole the whole time and then

You look at the coach and go ah why isn’t that coach getting getting so and I’m responsible for doing that too I I wish I have a question written down why doesn’t he raise his voice ever it bothers me I want I want J’s opinion on

This but here and now you actually you would probably prefer that Luca was more like Jason kid on the court can they can they switch places can we have our players be docile and our coach be be like animated and all that but kid that kid’s demeanor the team could learn from

It and yeah it it is just weird that that is an opposite and like I think it just I think that stems from there’s just a problem it’s hard to kind of pinpoint exactly what it is and so you’re just like well I just wish the

Thing that is the thing right now the demeanor of the team and the demeanor of the coach I wish it was the opposite because then it would be better right like I wish it was the like it’s always I wish there was a I wish everything could change and then everything would

Be better right it’s not always the case that’s not always the case and you have to remember I mean the this is a three game losing streak the mats have not lost more than three all year they the Phoenix Suns who look like unbeatable right now lost nine of 12 they lost nine

Of 12 not long ago and I’m sure all of the you know locked on suns shows were as frustrated as how you know you and I might sound today so it it’s you just have to really be careful not to overreact sometime uh at the point of

The year that we’re at everybody dying to get to the all-star break there’s still a lot of basketball to be played a lot of basketball be played coming up let’s talk about the basketball they have played why are they 16 and 18 since November 14th let’s get into that talk

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16 and 18 since November 14th they had an eight2 start to the season we were feeling really good we’re like all right everything’s pointing High Dereck Livy is great Luca and Kyrie together 16 and 18 since then they are the uh the only teams worse in the west than them since

Then are Memphis Golden State Houston Orland San Antonio all know basically not good teams right now 14th offense in the NBA in that time 21st defense in that time which sounds pretty good but it they’re negative basically two net ratings they’re getting outscored by 100 possessions on the other side and their

Numbers are actually one win worse than their actual winning percentage so cleaning the glass takes all your Advanced stats together puts it together and they should actually be 15 and 19 instead of 16 and 18 so they’ve got one more win than they should why why have

They struggled lately why are they 16 and 18 since November 14th well health I mean health is one um obviously and then that I think kind of led to all the other glaring issues so when I was thinking about this the first things that came to mind and I just jotted down

Some things and I I said I want to know man games lost in that time I want to know defensive rating in that time I want to know strength of opponent schedule in that time and I want to know three-point shooting in the losses yeah and my uh trusty uh Emmy award-winning

Producer Clark row on the pre- and postgame shows I asked him to provide me with some numbers that mayor may not support my gut instincts and and really and truly I was pretty right on because the man games lost since that period in November ninth most in the NBA and if

You go to December 1st on it’s the fourth most and they are tied for the most different starting lineups in that period of time with the Memphis Grizzlies think of all the issues the Memphis Grizzlies have had with players and roster stuff right and um and the

Injur the injuries are not just like you know Maxi being out or Josh being out it’s Kyrie’s missed 15 games in that time Luca’s missed six games and he’s had the ongoing injuries Lively has missed nine games exom who’s become a starter has missed 11 games then Max 28

Josh Green 12 like you’re missing a lot of role rotation players and starters yes exactly I mean and it’s that is really significant people are probably sick of hearing it and thinking about it but it really is true and that leads to so much of the defensive rating issue

Too I mean you’ve got Lively green kba exom those are all guys that you want to be out there helping you defensively their defensive rating that period of time 20th um and and and it also the strength of schedule so the eight and two start I

Think you said it was yeah um it was a little soft but that was fine right that was that’s a great way to start well from that point on it’s been the sixth toughest schedule in the end NBA the matchups got a lot harder they lost

Important players um so there are a lot of things here that have made the threo shooting in the losses by the way they have shot 31% from three that’s 29th in those losses so we know how much they rely on the three-point shot when it goes away and they don’t have another

Option they lose those games so I mean it feels like you can really identify the things and and some of it is just bad luck with the injuries yeah the and the injuries are it’s more than just you know oh a guy a guy is out and so yeah next man up but

It’s they haven’t had continuity you mentioned all the starting lineups that they’ve had they you still haven’t had continuity of a bunch of guys together that know how to play that know where each other are going to be they’re still making like little mistakes where they

Pass to the wrong spot Derrick Jones Jr made two really bad turnovers last night in the middle of that collapse where you go wait why did you just pass out to there why would someone be there like they’re just not used to guys having to do different roles they’re not used to I

Totally agree with that I think you see it too and you see the frustration amongst the players um defensively you can sense they don’t all feel like they’re pulling in the same direction sometimes yeah um and and that’s demoralizing you know when you’re when you really are trying uh to play good

Defense but it it’s there’s miscommunications we talk we heard Grant Will Williams recently before the Boston game where he said I’ve H I’ve really have kind of struggled to uh get a hold of the defensive system here yeah um and it’s taken him some time to be comfortable so you definitely

Have you look at the Boston Celtics that whole crew that whole Core group has been together for so long and the Mavericks have just you know the briefest of periods of time on the court together so there are not moments where you can just rely back to what to muscle

Memory with this thing it is all they are always out there having to think and and and try to make up for you know the lack of you know comfort with one another yeah and then the three-point shooting that you mentioned these are all this is all great stuff the

Three-point shooting you mentioned it to me it comes down to two guys that have really kind of EX like that have been I don’t know exposed is the right word but like have really taken a slip which really hurt them since December 8th that’s 22 games Derrick Jones Jr is

Shooting 28% from three he that’s really fallen off for him when he had a pretty good start and then Grant Williams who started the year shooting 60% and I can remember being in the room where he goes it’s not good enough I want to hit 100%

Of the threes and I feel like ever since then maybe that was November 19th if it was that’d be hilarious November 19th he’s shooting 27% from three that’s 26 games like those two guys not being able to hit threes has really pulled them down and Grant Williams is the one that’s

Surprising more than Derrick Jones Jr Derk Jones Jr hasn’t been a great three-point Jer in his career but Grant Williams that was like the one thing coming in that I was really confident about there were people that would text the subtext line and I they’re like I’m worried about Grant Williams I don’t

Know about this new guy coming over from the Celtics like if anything he’ll be a better three-point shooter than you know what Reggie Bullock was at the beginning of the season right that’s the Baseline he like can he be better than that can he be better than you know uh you know a

Random role player at at three-point shooting he’s been a great three-point shooter his whole career and it just it just has really fallen off and there’s there’s been talk of like he’s got a some kind of injuries here and there that you know that are not keeping him

Out of games but that are hurting him and then you know he’s trying to I still feel like he’s trying to find his place he had he has the emotional blowups where he tries to be like the the you know the tough guy that pushes you know

Nkit and gets into guys faces and like feels like it just runs too hot where it it’s not like as a shooter you got to be even Keel right like because you gota you can’t get too high on the makes and you can’t get too low on the misses but

It feels like it just is running so up and down for him you can’t really can’t really like level out it was a great description uh of everything and I think that the Phoenix Suns game was boy did that exemplify just everything about him because he

Comes out and he hits those two threes to start the game and that was such a good feeling and what a sight for Sor eyes you’re thinking all right good he’s gonna he’s gonna be there and then um and then he was the one mixing it everything up and kind of raising

Everybody’s temperature and angst um and that proved not to really be helpful for the Mavericks at all and and as I’m starting the game thinking oh this is gonna be a big Grant Williams game by the end of it he’s not even out there anymore because he’s ejected yeah yeah

Just G it it there is um a whole lot I think to try to work through with him and hopefully just a second half of a season will be dramatically different Jason kid I I asked him about the defense and asked him about you know I

Asked him are you trying to are you still looking for that defensive leader last night and he said yeah you know we are he’s out there somewhere and I was like you think he’s on a different team and he said no he’s on our team but you

Know we’ve taken our roster to the limits what did you think about that comment from him about basically like we’ve taken this to what we can it seemed like he wanted another it seemed like he wanted a move and I was like if he’s if he’s subtly hinting at this to

Us what do you think he’s saying to Nico Harrison right yes you’re I’m certain of that and it does feel like well and and and the Mavericks have always been really active what uh seven straight years they’ve made a move at the trade deadline of course they’re not all block ERS um like

Christops porzingis or Kyrie Irving and they can’t really even um you know have the capital to pull off probably a blockbuster this year um and so because of the fact that they may not be able to go get that 20 point a game forward that they covet so much it may be something

That on the outside might look smaller but if it is towards the defensive end you know Jason kid that’s what he wanted to you know hang his hat on all these years that’s how he started his first year with the Mavs they were really good defensively so that may be what they are

Able to pull off at the deadline and that could be really good yeah seems like they need to make some kind of change some kind of new you know new blood in maybe I would I would have hoped that getting healthy would have helped but then Kyrie goes out with

This thumb injury it’s just like every time they get close because even adding in someone new is only going to add in some more someone else we’ve got to get comfortable into the mix I mean there is a point at which they just need to look internally and they just need to decide

Uh what this team is made of who are we going to be this is our moment right here right now we’re going to work on our own things and not look for help not make excuses um they may have to you know just hone in right then look themselves in the mirror

Right and what are we going to change how are we going to do things differently or at least look yourself into the selfie camera right like that’s probably the new one right like hey just at least look at yourself in your front-facing camera oh man yeah we’ve got two more

Games this weekend we’ll have you covered slightly and I will have post games for you uh Reggie and I will be on on Sunday night going into Monday breaking down some more about this Mavericks team trades are coming up the trade deadline is getting so close two

Weeks away basically from right now and I I do think the Mavericks will make a move everyone seems to think that they will and so we’ll be following that guys thanks for much for listening to lock down Mavs peace out Boom

The Dallas Mavericks have had some tough losses lately and are 16-18 since Nov 14th, so it’s time to sit Luka Doncic, Kyrie Irving, Jason Kidd, the Mavs, and Mavs Fans down to have a family meeting about what’s not working.

Nick Angstadt @LockedOnNBA & Dana Larson @BallySportsSouthwestdiscuss the issues with the Dallas Mavericks, if Jason Kidd should be fired, and what’s next for Luka Doncic, Kyrie Irving, and the Mavs.

0:00 Why Did the Mavs Collapse vs PHX?
9:40 Mavs’ Bigger Issues Rising?
14:50 Time to Fire Jason Kidd?
20:28 Why is Dallas 16-18 Since Nov 14th?

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