Kings Are In Miami Taking On the Heat – January 31: The Insiders D-Lo & KC

Kings Are In Miami Taking On the Heat – January 31: The Insiders D-Lo & KC

Good morning chatty house what is happening who got the belt where are we who am I what is happening um oh wish Michigan got it Michigan Wolverine congrats wow two belts for Michigan and well not I don’t know is in a something about the University of Michigan winning the national

Championship and him winning the belt basically the same thing uh he did lose head coach so maybe he’s just wallowing self-pity and has to get here early because he’s got he’s just crying in his beer every morning yeah maybe beer every morning that’s nuts crying in his beer and Cheerios beerio there it

Is um yeah he’s gonna be doing that again when the sanctions come down yeah up steephen heyo I think we’re doing this we doing this 10 seconds to the league 10 seconds up David see if I can work a trade for the Kings to get better in that time oh here we go

I think the NBA is messing up man I think I like a little bit the if it I it look it feels like Joel embiid’s injury last night could have been avoided and even still even still before and and welcome into the inside I forgot to start recording again that’s fine

Good start Kyle uh I look this has so if you if you missed it uh the Sixers played at the Warriors last night second game of back toback uh for for the 76ers Joel ID played uh he only played 29 minutes for Philly in their loss to the Warriors

But anybody who watched five minutes of that game understood that he was compromised in some way oh yeah he was not he he’s not like a he doesn’t move like a guard anyways he’s he definitely has the body of a of a much older person

But I mean he’s averaging what is it 36 11 and six this year like he’s he’s fine he’s been really good and probably the MVP of the league again however because of the in part because of the new you know limit on number of games you can

Play or number of games you can miss I guess before you aren’t eligible for postseason Awards and all and stuff he forced himself to play through what was clearly an injury last night he goes for 147 and two he was five of 18 from the field and he had eight

Turnovers Okay so gets hurt here’s the problem that I have like yes Joel embiid is amazing and he’s playing at an MVP level but if he’s forcing himself out there onto the court because he has to hit a certain game number it’s kind of the point Kyle like an MVP can’t play 57

Games that’s not an MVP no I I I totally yeah I don’t I don’t disagree with that at all and I don’t hate the idea of of saying if you’re a voter and going yeah you gotta play 65 for me yeah like that’s that’s fine and this is not my my

Whole my whole thing with this is I think we’ve we’ve reached the point of we’re no longer stopping load management we’re now seeing players get hurt because they’re trying to get to this mytical magical 65 Mark what’s like this objective just kind of like yeah hey 65

Games is the number yeah yeah and so I I I the the difficulty in this is like you’re right you have to play yeah that’s the point and you see Kawhi Leonard playing more you see guys like Steph Curry playing more and that’s that I mean across the league players are

Missing fewer games and that’s good that’s that’s the goal but the goal was not to say hey hey yeah you should play Hurt No but that’s that’s kind of what this is doing now and I guess it’s okay because I in in some sense and and help

Me out I’m kind of talking myself through this I understand the the need for players to play yes I get that and I want players to play I Haven understand the league regulating like making it an issue and and and pushing it the the issue I get to with this is

Tying this to all NBA which is then tied to your earning potential as a player that’s where the gray area lies and that’s that that’s what bothers me about it go ahead hey I I will tell you that for years um Scott Howard Cooper was

Around you know he lived in he lives in Sacramento he he covered the NBA for years and years and years as a as a writer at the be as a writer for nba.com he had not only a Hall of Fame vote but also you know uh all of your your

Standard you know Allstar everything else he always had the opinion which he he was open about so I’m not like spilling the beans on Scott Howard Cooper here but he felt that it wasn’t okay for media to impact that exact thing yeah that’s crazy that that happens because when the media votes and

And a guy either makes an all-nba team or doesn’t you’re controlling a player’s money yes like his potential earnings because like if you make all NBA two years in a row before your your contract extension you jump from being eligible for 30% of the salary cap to 35% of the

Salary cap and so the money we’re talking huge huge amounts of money right not a little bit of money right we’re talking about on a gigantic deal 5% times five years is a tremendous amount of money right and he was always always like I don’t feel comfortable I don’t

Feel comfortable that we’re like if players have incentives for making an All-Star team that we helping them either achieve or not achieve those things and I get it um but at the same time I I think the league had a problem and definitely and if anyone the Sacramento Kings last year exposed that

Problem the kings were the healthiest team in the league because they played every day everyone went out there like okay Dem zonis has a broken bone in his right hand or well he had an evulsion fracture right like the the tendon pulled off the bone uh that sounds awful

By the way oh yeah yeah it sounded absolutely horrible but uh you know Keegan Murray had an injury like that and and dearon fox had injuries the Kings played through them and they showed that sometimes playing every game keeps you as healthy as as you know resting and that’s why the league it’s

Not the only reason the league did it the league has its own investment in this where fans are going to games expecting to see Kawhi Leonard or expecting to see Steph Curry well yeah they show up they spend a bunch of money and they don’t get to see that player

Because that player is resting that night and these TV networks pay billions of dollars yeah for these deals to get good games and then hey oh we got Warriors Celtics tonight and Steph Curry’s out and Draymond Green’s out and Klay Thompson’s out and Jason Tatum’s resting and now it’s pton Pritchard

Against Jordan p you know like that’s that’s what they were trying to avoid and so like I said I I’m stuck in a in a in a in the middle here a little bit because I understand the league needing to to cut down on just the raw load

Management yeah like the hey you know what pencil in Chris Paul for 60 games whether he’s hurt or healthy he is not playing more than 60 and that went for like I said kawh Leonard Paul George Steph Curry like pick a pick a player it was it’s always like hey when was the

Last time that guy played more than 75 games in a year yeah like 2012 like so long ago right so I under I I I totally get that but my my concern comes in I guess my my my question in all this is one there’s the aspect of tying it to

All NBA and your ability to make more money because now look if a player rolls their ankle and let’s say let’s say dear and fox what earlier this season when he rolled his ankle had to miss 16 games he is no longer no wait 17 yeah you have to miss

18 you can miss up to 17 you have to play 65 games so let’s say he missed 18 games he’s just out he can no long he’s just done he can’t be all NBA anymore even if he plays the rest of the season and averages 38 points a game plays 64

Games he just he can’t he can’t be all NBA now yeah like that and and that’s where and that’s where my my problem comes in is because now if you’re and again I’m picking Daren Fox’s ankle because of the thing that happened this year so if he’s sitting there at game 17

And he’s like you know what I’m not quite ready but I got to get out there because I could mess my money up and then something something you know God forbid worse happens because he’s compromised in this way and playing on it I I’m that’s that’s where you see

This could get a little bit messy and a little bit ugly and I think with Joel em being an MVP candidate or MVP front runner whatever word you want to use going out clearly being hurt and then in last night’s game getting injured yeah that’s that was a on national TV mind

You that’s just a really high-profile example of how this can go sideways and I don’t know what the league does to fix it outside of okay maybe you dro the threshold to 60 games which I I maybe ultimately though we we always get back to this every time we we any NBA fan

Talks about this it’s like they need to play fewer games yeah and that’s but that’s never going to happen so it’s trying to find Solutions within that I’m just not totally sure that a 65 games come Heller high water is the solution well I would okay so a couple of things

Here number one Joel embiid has been hurt throughout his entire career no doubt like doubt he missed the first two years of his career his second his his first official year in in the NBA played 31 games just for context guess how many play how many games he played last year

When he won the MVP oh uh 58 66 so when we come up with an arbitrary number I’m wondering if that arbitrary number wasn’t based off of something that actually happened yeah where they slid in a number and said okay you have to play more than 60 you have to play 65

6 65 is just like a good round number though that’s not I guess unreasonable well 66 would have been really obvious that would have been like uh is this a Joel embiid rule yeah but so here’s the problem like you I don’t think you

Should be able to be an MVP if you can’t stay healthy long enough to to actually impact your the bottom line which is wins and losses and a player who sure if they win like 80% of the games he plays they’re they’re probably going to make the playoffs either way but if he’s

Missing 25 games a year sure that’s just it’s too much it’s too much to be considered one of those guys because what happens in the other 25 games and that’s part of it I mean part of you know again we bring it up with Harrison Barnes part of what makes Harrison

Barnes valuable as a player he’s got he’s at 185 straight games played right he he shows up every night and other guys don’t and there is value to that and I’m not putting haris Barnes in the same category as Joel embiid but if I’m looking at no I get what you’re saying

Though yeah if I’m looking at two players that that may or may not make all NBA and one of them plays 79 games and plays with a broken hand the whole time and the other one plays like 58 games and and doesn’t play through injury and misses a bunch of other games

But his stats are better someone like Anthony Davis then yeah like what am I talking about pick a player let’s make one up let’s go Anthony Davis let’s just make you know we like you know s footer with the unibrow like I said I I don’t I

Don’t hate that premise at all and I in fact I agree with it a player who impacts his team for 50 games is just by definition not as impactful as a player who did the same thing for his team in 75 games yeah like that’s just that’s

That’s basic math and the NBA had to put a number on it I I again I understand why because they couldn’t just have teams willy-nilly going all right well let’s see um every backtack anybody over 30 is not going to play and um the middle of every road

Trip this guy’s getting a night off and oh National TV game it’s a back toback yet too bad sorry guys everybody’s gonna sit so I understand it to an extent um but I also my other question on this is you know how much of it is team driven

How much of it is how much of it is Sports Performance Health uh uh science people I don’t I don’t know what they’re even called trainers trainers athletic staff going yeah hey you know what we’ve been doing all these measurements and your heart rate and your explosiveness and you know what you

Need you’re taking tonight off I get it Kyle I I don’t think there’s any true solution before we get to the break I I’ll just say Anthony Davis 36 games 40 games 56 games lo and behold they put a cap on how many games to make an all NBA

Team he’s a 46 through like 48 so it actually is impacting whether guys play or not no doubt why Leonard same thing yeah no doubt um we got plenty to get to we’ll continue this discussion for sure LeBron got Saved by the Bell yesterday we’ll play that sound for if you haven’t

Heard it it’s pretty funny and uh the kings are in Miami tonight to face the heat they were in Miami yesterday and now they’re in Miami again tonight they will play tonight against the Miami Heat we will begin previewing that game as well that’s James ham I’m Kyle mads and

We’re the Insiders Isn 1320 Sacramento sports leader Kyle my b no stress they are ready for a rainstorm I’m just getting emergency service like they’re testing the uh The Code Red emergency service alert system everybody stay uh stay dry here in the next couple

Of days get your uh uh you can’t come to my house and with all my boats we all get washed away I’ll I’ll pick up some of you on the way down the hill but not all of you the party barge can only take so many hi Rob W what up Rob yeah

Yeah yeah one of my keys to the game is hey maybe just stay inside on Tuesday or hey maybe uh a breath lizer is needed just saying um okay I I I like your name tall Chinese guy is there a real chance the Kings get Jimmy Butler Vegas odds have

Them third last time I checked Jimmy Butler wasn’t available if Jimmy Butler becomes available I could easily see the king saying yes that is a guy that even though he’s older um we’re all in because he brings that personality that I think dog yeah yeah he he might

Be one of the the bigger dogs in the league um it’s a good question like I I haven’t heard anything on Jimmy Butler the fact that Vegas has an odds on it I mean that that seems strange that’s how dude that’s how Vegas Keeps the Lights on bro

I guess somebody some Kings fan sees that or that’s how sports book keeps Sports books keep the lights on get some Kings fan Who’s down in Vegas like Jimmy Butler plus 800 to be on the Kings yeah I’ll put hundred bucks on that that’s a free100 so jimmmy Butler’s getting

Traded 45 Mill million 49 million 52 million he’ll he will be o this is tough I I think the answer is no and he’s a high usage player who can’t shoot he will be 34 35 and 36 making that money a lot of miles too uh

Yeah yeah if you’re if you’re the heat you can’t punt on this season either like I know they’ve lost seven in a row but they made the finals as the freaking eight seed last year like yeah now hey if Miami wants to put bam at a bio up for

Bid um then you give them all the monies that’s that’s a player you go all in and one of the reasons is because you instantly are able to sign Malik monk no matter what the contract is uh that’s one of dearon Fox’s boys uh they you know that’s the team that’s the they

Were the Kentucky team right there Kentucky is what we would call that yeah yeah exactly that’s probably the biggest mistake the kings ever made right there is trading the number 10 pick for 15 and 20 and not just selecting bam at a bio and pairing him with dearn Fox for the

Next you know whatever years all right here we go all right I’m Kyle that’s James the Sacramento Kings are in Miami tonight to take on the Miami Heat tip off set for 430 Sacramento they’re rolling they are on a four game heater they have won the first four games of their seven game

Road Trip meanwhile the Miami Heat have done the opposite they have lost seven consecutive games the king’s trying to make it eight losses in a row for them and I Miami is a weird team for me because I count them out every year you should never count out Eric bolra right

Right Eric spoler is great Jimmy Butler could be abysmal in in the regular season and you know that you’re getting a a a top 15 guy in the playoffs every single year bam out of Bio is the like prototypical new age defensive athletic center like they’ve got all these pieces

Then they just figure it out right what on on the margins with Tyler herro and they just you lose Gabe Vincent and and uh Max stru and you’re just filling spots and even though they’ve lost seven in a row even though they may not be in

In the top six ah you know what the heat Are Gonna Make some noise in the playoffs yeah I’m always intrigued the way that Eric spola during the playoffs is able to Plug and Play different players in different times in different positions and have it all work out it’s

Insane he’s the best coach in the league yeah I do believe he is the best coach in the league and I think he’s totally underappreciated it took a long time for him to find that appreciation because of the Pat Riley situation and the fact that there was always that sort of like

Oh will Pat Riley step in type deal there like there was always that early on and now it’s just like look appreciate a guy for his craft for what he does and the way that they assemble this team like this team is really really intriguing the fact that that

They aren’t winning right now it feels a little bit like an aberration but it doesn’t really matter what they are yeah they go into the playoffs and they beat everybody and next thing you know they’re they’re deep in the playoffs and and they’re competing for a championship

And they’re one of the most impressive franchises that we’ve seen it it reminds me a lot of the uh the San Antonio Spurs where stability within the organization all of that stuff it matters it fully matters and this is a team that you know they have a homec court advantage it’s

Called the South Beach flu um and you know do they guys like to go to I think it’s the realest HomeField advantage in the league or home court advantage home court no I I totally think so yeah like Everyone likes to go to Miami they don’t want to live there

Some guys do and that that’s its own problem sure but other guys are like oh no this is great two nights in Miami I’m in yeah I have a day off in Miami oh yeah and then you know the next day you you lose a game on January 31 and you

Move on to to February that’s right oh um that’s my number one concern we’ll talk keys later yeah keys to Victory but that is when you talk we can sit here and we can talk about Tyler hero and we can talk about bam atab bio and we can

Talk about Jimmy Butler and Eric bolstra and and Nicola yovic and Caleb Martin Etc ET haime hakz of course of course might be the Rookie of the Year right so maybe maybe not kle I don’t know he’s a basketball hipster Rookie of the Year yeah um so like you can talk about all

That and you can talk about X’s Nos and this and that you know what if the Kings come out flat tonight and they just don’t have it if the Kings get one of those one of those like we saw in Houston earlier this year where they just don’t have it it’s uncompetitive

They lose by 25 I’m not gonna C I will not be on this show tomorrow I will not be on the Insiders here tomorrow and be like yeah I they gotta compete like I just you can’t go into a game like that I’m not gonna do the Doomsday thing

You’re gonna give them that you’re G gonna give them they get a pass for me tonight they get a pass I’d like to see them win I would like to see them go play well and push Miami to consecutive losses and push their own winning streak

To to five you would love to see that that focus and that that desire okay but also I’m not going to blame him if it’s not there that’s all that’s all I’m saying okay yeah I kind of like if they have video of of Malik monk out like

Doing salsa dancing I’m here for it I am I I get what you’re saying Kyle but you know the fact is that the Kings while they they’re up and down and they haven’t strung together like something that would build confidence in what’s happening they have still won four in a

Row and Kyle at this point they’re the hottest team in the Western Conference they are the they have the longest win streak in the Western Conference the second longest winning streak in the NBA now watch out and uh whether it’s ugly or it’s pretty this is another game

Where you’ve got to go in and see if you can figure out how to compete and I think that the Kings do have every opportunity you’re talking about a team that in the heat that are on a slide they’ve lost seven in a row uh and you

Need everybody to show up and put on their Brave face and and try to go out there and win I think the kings in the like all the time that Miami he had been in the league the Kings won like five games that’s it yeah it is unbelievable their

Inability to win was it Darren Fox’s rookie year that he had the putback dunk for the win oh yeah I rookie or second year might have been his second year yeah that was impressive that’s that’s one of my favorite moments from him yeah you know the jam tip like he’s uh yeah

Definitely um like he came up big in in a huge moment yeah on the road in Miami yeah he probably didn’t know any better like oh plus it was probably before turned 21 and he couldn’t go out anyways it’s a good point everyone else around him is fully sick and he’s like

Oh no I got this guys I got this hey here’s an interesting thing and I’m I I I’m sure this has been discussed I’ve just never really put it together Kevin Love plays for the heat FYI yeah that’s a thing that’s still happening um I didn’t know he was yeah I

Mean I know he’s still in the roster but yes it I think domas is just the new version of Kevin Love Like the better version of Kevin Love he doesn’t shoot it as as often as as love did but just rebounds heck of a

Passer and again domas is a is a is a far better player than than Pete Kevin Love was okay well I think Pete Kevin Love style of player to me I feel like there’s a comp there that I’ve not ever connected no I I think he I would just

Say that domas is much more of a strong man and love is more of a finess player I think um when it comes to love he’s one of the great position rebounders that we’ve seen in the game over the last like 20 years like the guys don’t

Come along like him that think the game not only is he a great like position rebound where he knows exactly where the ball’s going to come off the rim but on top of that he’s one of the best outlet passers we’ve seen unbelievable unbelievable what he can do for an

Offense is just amazing I I always thought you know I don’t love Kevin Love as a Defender and you know there are plenty of things wrong with Kevin a player sure but I also understand how he could have a tremendous amount of value for a team which is why he’s still

Playing and why the Miami Heat are like Hey we’re still in on Kevin Love even though he’s 35 his assist numbers aren’t aren’t as good as I thought they were um in his third year as a pro he averaged 15.2 boards oh yeah per game yeah and

Then 133 14 and then 12 and a half he had a very small window where he was one of the best rebounders it’s it’s almost like Andre Drummond like both of them have these windows where they’re the best rebounder league and you know sometimes it’s not even and then they

Fade really quickly yeah so yeah heck of a player if he can hit the three ball he becomes like very very dangerous but I just don’t think he doesn’t play enough he doesn’t have no he’s not I don’t expect him to have a huge impact tonight

I just he’s kind of just coasting in here’s what here’s the take I was trying to get to I think domas should shoot more threes man oh that’s all there it is that’s all that’s all I’m getting to against the Miami he tonight how many

How many do you want five I would like no I I don’t need that many I would like three and a half attempts per game okay that’s what I would like I don’t disagree with that okay yeah because they leave him open there there are those opportunities for him yeah I’m

With you is uh is the Miami Heat Legend still on the roster I he’s not right Udonis Haslam finally called it yeah yeah no he’s done finally called it a career you know last year Udonis Haslam gave it to the Kings and at home on the

He he showed up and scored more points than he had in like seven years yeah he but he had a six-year stretch where he played like 58 games total yeah man well that and the points were even less but against the Kings I think he put up like 12 and Kings like oh

No naturally all right how do the kings avoid losing in Miami tonight we’ll tell you that next on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leater ah that’s funny hello everybody I’ll be right back yep let’s see sacamento Kyle has left something on again I don’t know what’s happening I

Think he unplugged his his ear his earphones um was it yeah Udonis Haslam maybe he did only score three points and just felt like more I don’t think so was that last year or was it the year before everything runs in together now I don’t know if that’s just

Me I might hang on I might might be able to turn this down well that’s a mistake don’t touch that button hey I think I figured it out did that work everyone uh oh H that’s right you guys got you got me pegged now you understand who I am the

Core the core tenants of James I don’t touch buttons and we don’t touch other people’s privates oh let’s see if I figured out which one you left something on back there and I just touched a button over here to make it quiet oh good it’s okay I just

The you poted me way down oh yeah yeah yeah yep yeah I think you unplugged your headphones on the way out the door uh no no no no I turned up the speaker in here so when I walked back into this room oh you knew where you were yes got it got

It okay my bad y’all what’s happening okay so I save this yeah I feel bad for Darin ham in in LA because I think he’s actually a decent coach he’s proven to be better than I think a lot of people thought but you never take that job

That’s the worst job in sports that’s a job you’re going to get fired every Frank vogle won a ring and then got fired right afterwards Mike Brown got fired after like three minutes was it Earl Watson who got four games um maybe um but that was a nightmare yeah

That was a mess yeah uh Johnny Sirus um my thoughts on herb Jones I I love herb Jones Jones I I just there is no way the Pelicans are trading herb Jones to Sacramento Kings like I you look at his contract he’s like 10 11 12

13 million he’s locked up for a long CH a long stretch and if they’re trading him they’re trading him to get better at the center position that’s what the word is and the Kings can’t make them better at the center position without completely destroying their entire franchise by Trading domas so yeah like

He’s not going anywhere unless I think like Jared Allen becomes available and then they would probably consider it all right here we go party time all right at the break we were talking about Darin ham and whether his days as the Lakers coach are numbered this this I want to get to this

LeBron sound they were a few weeks ago but I don’t know now maybe they are I don’t know right so so that was the weird thing is I believe it was the athletic reported like oh man Darin Ham’s days are numbered somebody reported it and then

I think it was Sam amch went down to LA to explore this was came away with the idea that no he’s solid job’s not necessarily in danger Sam has really good ties in La he always has yeah like as far as as a reporter I mean he’s a Sacramento guy but his ties

In La Run Deep yeah yeah very good at Job whatever there is to know in in La he knows right and then so it’s okay Lakers are you know they’re up and down maybe not as good as they’d like to be but again last year they were they were

Terrible at the trade deadline made some moves and they made a run to the Conference Finals yep here’s LeBron’s postgame the end of his postgame locker room availability last night there’s a little bit of the question and then LeBron’s answer what would your message be to your teammate

And what can you do yourself you know to get that get bck back on the winning side of things I don’t have any message for my teammates just go out and do your job man I’m not yeah appreciate it you way to cut me off because I was that’s it

That’s where the the clip ends I didn’t cut that offer that’s where that ends dude he was about to go he was about to go in on I’m not the coach it’s not my job to get people something he was gonna go in on Darin ham I think that was my read on

It okay maybe maybe Kyle but I’m just gonna say at the beginning of the year we talked about this if you put a group of players around LeBron James that are not winners that have never been winners in their career and I’m not saying they’re losers I’m saying that they’re

Not winners they’re not guys who have historically found success in the league and then you just go out and get all of them and think that that’s going to be the way to build a squad around him MH then you got problems the way to build Squad around LeBron James is pretty

Simple shooters shooters more Shooters once you get as many shooters as you think you you need you go get three more that’s the way to build a team around him he draws more of a crowd than any player in the NBA and everyone is open

But when you don’t go do that and you assemble a team of Misfit Toys guys who have again not found success anywhere else you got to look at it like hey who’s fault is this you know is it is it LeBron for stepping in and saying hey I

Don’t want the Buddy heel trade I want the Russell Wilson uh Westbrook trade right is that what you do like where do we put the blame because at a certain point again not to be horribly rude to D’angelo Russell or uh you know cam reddish or ruy hachimura tan Prince

Christian Wood these guys they haven’t Jackson Hayes that’s the team that everyone assembled and was like oh this is gonna be so good like okay how about you go get guys who know a role know how to play to their strengths yeah and that’s where I think what I mean like

When you talk about guys who don’t come from a winning background a lot of players in the league like the entire Detroit Pistons team nobody knows what they’re G to be as a player so they all think even when they get 25 26 Still that they’re going to be the next big

Thing thing that it’s only a matter of them getting an opportunity and and so every time they go out there they try to prove that that they’re the as opposed to playing good team basketball yeah Lakers are littered with those players and so LeBron can be mad but like

Somebody had a say who built this roster and I I assume he was in the room for some of it at least a little bit of it yeah and that’s and that’s I mean and that’s ultimately the thing is you talk about surrounding of Shooters okay D’Angelo Russell 41.7% from three on six

Attempts a game good shooter LeBron shooting 39.7% this year yeah he’s good man wild it’s crazy what he’s doing it 39 that game the other night I know it wasn’t here but the the we didn’t have a show I guess it was Saturday night that Warriors Lakers game where LeBron’s

Playing 48 minutes and having 36 and 20 and a bunch of ass oh my God that is a better statline than 99.9% of the players in the NBA will ever put up and he’s doing it at 39 years old right now he’s averaging 24.9 points 7.7 assists 7.5 rebounds he’s still a genius

He’s still 52% from the field yeah there is no like oh he’s in the All-Star game because he’s LeBron no he’s in the All-Star game because he’s still great yeah right yeah he is the Lakers were better he’d be an MVP candidate yeah yeah uh Rory hachimura 39% just three

Attempts a game though torian Prince 38 and a half% five uh five attempts a game and then Austin Reeves 34% on 4.6 yeah his his shooting percentages of dipped quite a bit but there’s enough there shooting wise where you’re going okay you you you’re okay with this you like

This but D’Angelo Russell that’s the guy well like that’s that’s that’s gonna be your third best player ostensibly they Tred they tried really really hard to trade him like I had that thing like hey this is about to happen we’re coming on the show I’m like hey this is about

To happen yeah where D’Angelo Russell uh with um hood chafino and a first round pick and a pick swap is being sent to Atlanta for dejonte Murray that was like super super close to happening a couple of weeks ago and even that trade Kyle what that’s the same thing like that’s

It’s the same ex you’re bringing in another guy like that yep another guy who wants to dribble the air out of the ball another guy that wants to like do a bunch of M me me stuff and yeah is he good sure he’s good I don’t know if he

He might be better than Dio jul Russell he plays better defense but at the same time what what are you doing like the the entire concept of what you’re doing is wrong you’re not going out and getting players that have had success putting them in a better position and

Having them succeed for you yeah as and then you as a whole succeeding that’s not what the Lakers are doing it’s really funny because we sit here and we talk about Harrison Barnes a lot Harrison Barnes would be a great fit for the Lakers yeah but that’s the kind of

Player they need who’s going to say yeah I could probably do more but I can help the team in XY and and Z way yep and and that’s what again Harrison Mars maybe not this year but the last you know three four years and particularly last year like that’s a really valuable

Player who’s not going to be an All-Star and he’s not going to put up huge numbers but man he helps your team and yeah the Lakers just don’t have that and I’m sure that’s a frustration for LeBron because I’m sure he talks to these guys

When they come in or before they come in and he goes hey here’s what I here’s what we need from you here’s what I’m thinking for your role and they’re like yeah yeah yeah I can’t wait wait and then they get out there and don’t necessarily do the things they need to

Do to impact winning they shook their head and didn’t listen I mean and that’s again that’s a lot of the players that they brought in yeah you know like I I kicked uh I went and did like deep background on Christian Wood because let’s be honest like Christian Wood on

Paper every year of his career except for this year would look so perfect next to Deus sabonis yeah and everyone that I talked to within you know that that was in the no in Dallas was like yeah I mean he’s not a bad kid you know he shows up

Late here and there and and that’s not the problem the problem is he doesn’t make winning plays and what does that mean like he goes out there and he averages 18 and 10 like yeah but he gives up 22 and 13 sure yeah so every time like it’s like and and the the

Mistakes are so egregious and the force plays and like all of these things that he does they don’t make sense and they don’t lead to winning and that’s why you have to find as me as much as you need talent you also need to find players that when you’re accumulating talent

That have that that idea behind them that I am going to fill in a role as best I can and whether that’s a star role or being a a star in my role whatever it is I got to do that and that’s where I think the Kings have

Struck gold with guys like like Malik monk who had bounced around everywhere and you put him in the perfect situation for him to succeed and he found success yeah right so what Malik monk is today that’s not what Malik monk was the first five years of his career right and you

Know Malik can say well I’m going to take my talents and go wherever if that’s what happens at the end of this season but he should also realize that the reason why he’s as good as he is right now and he’s up for all that money

Was because he was put in a perfect situation by A Perfect coach at the time for him yeah and he didn’t cry about coming off the bench No and went and accepted a role exactly and that’s what you need to do you need to find guys that are willing to accept roles that

Are willing to play what it is you need them you know whatever it is that your team needs and I think that’s kind of the fun thing about watching the the Kings mold Keegan Murray because they’re molding him into the player that they need and he’s sitting there as a sponge

And just like yes whatever it is you want me to do I’m going to do it like oh you need me to be the best on ball Defender statistically speaking in the NBA okay in in isolation all of a sudden that’s what he was like the stat came

Out yesterday he’s holding guys like 14% or something in isolation situations in 43 attempts this year like what he’s doing it’s because they’re bought into a system where I don’t think they’re bought in like you’re LeBron James and Anthony Davis and a bunch of randos and I think

Everybody feels that that you’re all just pieces that Danny a is gonna trade for at some point and give up a better player for that’s all you are well and that’s that’s the that’s where last year they made all these moves at the deadline and they they figured it out

And and everything was great but I don’t know if that’s if that’s necessarily there for them this year you think that every year and someone always bills out the Lakers you know that’s a good point right now they’re they’re so funny they haven’t had a winning streak longer than

Three and they haven’t had a losing streak longer than four okay so like the Kings yeah except for the Kings the six yeah yeah they go three wins in a row loss win four losses in a row win loss win four losses two wins two losses two

Wins a loss MH tradeoff win and loss one two in a row okay get rolling lose two in a row Kyle they’re a 500 team they’re just they’re just they’re they’re no that’s what they are they’re a 500 team yeah they’re a 500 team getting this kind of season from LeBron and getting

46 games of Anthony Davis yeah and and again promising if you’re La ad is at 25 and 12 and he’s averaging 2.3 blocks and a steel and 3.7 assists and he you know like he’s a really really good player but the and the fact that this

Team very well is it tomorrow all stars are announced tomorrow th they’re likely getting to Wednesday yeah come on yeah we made it in my head it’s been Tuesday all day no tomorrow’s huge win for me that’s a huge win for me hell yeah um yeah the Lakers currently the nine seed

Tied with the Jazz and and way back of the Pelicans yeah it just you’re tied with the Jazz does that mean Danny an doesn’t just give give you a team this year just wondering just ask just ask him for he might just just swap that out yeah yeah tough tough tough

Look yeah although I look if anybody is gonna media drama their way through this and media drama their way into a more competitive team it’s LeBron of course and I kind of respect it like the fact that he still wants to win that badly after all the

Success he’s had in the league I definitely respect all he does is win and and like look you’re wasting of his last few seasons I mean we think granted I thought that’s seven years ago so yeah there’s that there’s that tweet from like 2015 as a Warriors fan being like

LeBron’s 30 this stuff won’t it didn’t say stuff but this stuff won’t go on for much longer and now it’s 2024 still I’ll tell you though what’s going to happen is he’s going to retire he’s going to retire at like 43 or 44 I I don’t know maybe around then maybe 42

Maybe 41 yeah then like is he gonna go out like Tom Brady where he just has a great year I mean I mean great relative probably has a has a great year and is like ah all right I’m done now probably and then what we’re gonna see though

Kyle is he’s gonna like show up at the esps or something he’s gonna have like a cane he’s gonna be all gray he’s gonna like his beard will be white and you’ll be like what happened he’s like I left it all out there everything I had I gave to the

Game like th% and you can see him like rehearsing the speech again and again my God as he dieses his beard yeah man H he great yeah yeah yeah um you see Draymond letting the gray come into his beard like oh yeah now now he’s wise

Watch out you don’t let the gray come in the gray just happens Kyle you could you could try and color it out that’s what dude that’s scary because I don’t have any hair on my head surpris uh so I don’t get like the Grays coming in there

But dude up the sideburns and then like there’s a spot on my chin that when the hair starts to really grow it’s just white there’s no color there yeah like oh well oh boy Kyle like the one advantage that LeBron has is that you know there’s like a he he can wash that

Gray white right out of his you know beard right because there are like colors that match when you’re when you’re a ginger there ain’t no washing yeah you’ve got nothing dog there’s no way to do it there’s no way like no you just it’s it’s turning white it look and

I just shaved it down but like when it’s long it’s white and I’m looking more and more like Santa Claus and there’s nothing you can do without I kind of want nothing more than for you to let let it let the beard grow in now no I I

Don’t think I can do it Kyle because I like you know people are gonna know how old I am that’s fine well okay I I TR that’s a good point that’s one of your favorite things is making people think that you’re 30 well I don’t try to make

People think they think what they think I’m just not telling them how old I am okay enough um we talked a little bit yesterday with Damien in the handoff about Allstar voting I still think that dearn fox and demonus sabonis are are going to get in there’s it sounds like some skepticism

That only one is going to get in or is that just like a like yeah hey it’s Sacramento of course only one of them is going to get eaten even though both got in last year yeah I I mean we don’t have anything solid yet but sure you know

There are there might be some murmurs at one or the other is getting in and um and I I think one of the problems that you have too is who’s going to be the head coach right so that that will actually play in because someone always gets hurt right there’s always an injury

Replacement and Dean Fox last year deserved to be an All-Star he didn’t get in right and then he got in as a injury replacement which which doesn’t feel as good as like Lally the NBA what they do they I believe what they do is they send

A Jersey to you like in a really super fancy box that’s like your Allstar like hey you’ve made it right and you open up like this beautiful box and inside is your jersey okay right and it might even just be a commemorative Jersey that you leave in that box that you aren’t

Supposed to go and wear for the game whatever um and not being able to go through all of that and get all like that’s part of the experience that fox didn’t get last year so I would hope that fox does make it because I mean he’s averaging over 27 points a game

He’s um you know he’s he’s definitely like played his way into this situation I agree and you know you put his stats up against Steph Curry stats are better like you put his stats up against a lot of guys and he’s better but what happens

At the end who knows my problem is that what if it it’s Minnesota and what if Carl Anthony towns or goar don’t get in and sabonis also doesn’t get in but then you need an injury replacement the head coach for the team that will Coach the game usually gets to

Make the decision on who the replacement is oh interesting I think I don’t think it’s Adam Silver I think it’s a coach that gets to make the decision and so that’s gonna be a problem because like I I think the path for sabonis to get in

If he doesn’t get in mhm is more difficult than it is for Fox I think if I was I think if I was domas in this situation and I didn’t get named to the All-Star team now granted I know it’s in Indiana and that’s where he

Really came into his own as an NBA player I I I get all yeah but I also think for me personally if I was in that spot I don’t know if I’d want to go because look you’re you’re an injury replacement so okay you don’t get everything you just talked about right

The the the commemorative Jersey I mean you do get that stuff but you don’t get it in the same way it’s not like the big revealed typ right it’s just like you get I’m sure it’s like a phone call or maybe Mike Brown calls him in and goes

Hey you’re going to Indiana yeah you know okay great but now you know if you’re an injury replacement you’re going you you’ve gone from okay well I get the All-Star break off to okay now I’ve got to go to Indiana I’ve got hang out in Indiana for

A few days instead of going away take part right to take part in all this stuff and then you’re an injury reserve Center in the All-Star Game yeah you’re gonna play four minutes and you’re just gonna sit there I’d way rather go on vacation to somewhere I would like to go

I and even I think straw pole would you rather go to pick a Hawaii yeah I would tell you I think Indiana dearn Fox would rather just sit at home and relax and not be there like honestly that’s kind of been his Mo throughout his career like yeah I’m

Gonna go I mean we saw what happened last hang out with his family play video games and yeah like like recover and get ready for the second half of the Season like regain your focus spend quality time with your little guy and quality time with your wife and just reset

That’s what I think some a lot of these guys just take off man they like they leave like if the All-Star game was tomorrow they’re leaving straight from the Bahamas and straight to the Bahamas % oh yeah he gone yeah like especially with them being in Miami they’d be like

Heck heck yeah get me out of here yeah I’m just right I’m flying straight out of Miami oh yeah totally go to the keys for a weekend yeah I don’t even know where are the Kings the last game of the uh is it Indiana is that where they are

Well if you’re in Indiana then you just stay there is it Indiana I don’t think you want to just stay in Indiana especially I think with the weather the way it’s going to be um the Kings have the All-Star break starts on the four no they’re at Denver oh Denver no but

Denver is a good place to be because that’s a that’s a hub it is a hub you can get just about anywhere from Denver you could be Costa Rica in like three hours maybe four yeah yeah I I um in fact honestly you’re in Phoenix on Tuesday may be like hey

Mik my knees a little sore playing tomorrow joking they’re not gonna do that boy isn’t that rough they gotta back to back they go they they Sunday Sunday at OKC Tuesday at Phoenix Wednesday at Denver it starts a game before that you’re at home against Denver then OKC then Phoenix then Denver

Again oh that’s rough that’s brutal man yeah that’s that’s tough one you play Denver a bunch played Denver three times you you got him again coming right out of the break oh my God and then and then yeah you go San Antonio at Clippers home heat at Denver at

Minnesota oh oh you learn a lot about the kings in that stretch we always you’re gonna learn a lot you’re gonna learn a lot yeah that’s my that’s my go-to like go group of tough games let’s see how this let’s see how this team does in those games yeah because that’s how time

Works no I I I’m I’m with you though man and if and honestly if I’m okay say let’s say you’re right let’s say dear’s like man I’d rather stay home but I got this I gotta go so I’ll go if he gets in if I so again let’s do the Kyle Madson

Version of this yep if I get in the game I’m going balls of the wall I am playing my ass off for every second I’m on the court I’m going to make my mark on that game if I’m gonna have to be out there if I’m gonna have to go through

All the riger role of being an Allstar and then be an afterthought in the game at least when I’m in the game I’m gonna make sure that people know I’m there I’m playing defense I’m getting in jerseys I’m breaking guys down off the dribble throwing down dunks setting big

Screens oh big time Big Time hard fouls going to the rim F you are not getting a layup on me bro it’s the All-Star Game I got fouls to give I’d be the wor they’d never want me back yeah I you know I get what dearen

Did last year he was like yeah I don’t really want to be here like we’re we’re in Utah yeah we’re in Utah right like what are we doing here how did I get stuck here in Utah right and it’s a and it’s ultimately a popularity contest and

That’s why that’s why I don’t have it in me to get outraged if one of dear or or or or demonus sabonis don’t make the All-Star team yeah I don’t have it I don’t I’m sorry I don’t I I don’t have that in my bones to care that much

Because it it is a popularity contest like Steph Curry is going to be an All-Star as long as Steph Curry averages 20 no I totally agree like that that’s just that’s that’s what it is and that’s how it’s always been and so at least in in my recollection of the All-Star game

That’s how it’s always been and so that’s fine that’s what the game is it’s a showcase and the fans watch and it’s a silly game and they they they throw their alley oops and they shoot a million threes and okay awesome but that’s why that’s why I will accept that

For what it is if Deon sabonis or dearen Fox are not Allstars I’m not going to be pounding the table saying the NBA is messing up and they don’t know what it is like no man they’ll get their all NBAs which is what actually matters and they’ll be in the postseason

And that’s that’s what I ultimately care about okay no I get that it my only thing especially for domos um like Fox we’ll see how Fox’s career materializes from here on out right like it’s I think a lot of what how Fox’s Legacy is going

To be remembered is by like how they do in the playoffs like sure I think that that’s how everybody like in the end a lot of players are judged no that is how everybody is judged yeah but I think when it comes to sabonis SOB bonus’s

Route to like the Hall of Fame is different it’s not the flashy it’s not the high-scoring guy it’s the guy who brought his his hard hat and his lunch pail to work every single day and beat people up and like basically physically W himself into an All-Star bid I mean

Into a Hall of Fame bid sure and to miss out on an All-Star game right now and potentially because that’s the way that if you don’t get in at one point after you’ve been in a lot of times you don’t get another opportunity to get back in so I would

Like to see him get in again and have his fourth Allstar because I I think it will matter I think it’s part of his resume to be the Hall of Fame down the road I maybe a little bit but not if he’s stacking up all NBAs in the process

Maybe and if he winds up averaging you know over over this next over this 10year stretch if he’s averaging 18 12 and nine yeah and the Kings go to the playoffs every year but here would be my argument that like there’s no guarantee he’s an all NBA player either because

What if they okay so embiid might be out so that would that could open a door right for for domos but if Anthony Davis is gonna play 80 games it becomes a popularity contest in some sense people were like well look at how many games ad

Played it’s like well but his team was horrible right it’s like it doesn’t matter he’s ad and look at what he did and so I think he would get in over domas where last year you looked at him you’re like hey ad80 only played 56

Games I’m not going to vote for him yeah I guess so that would my concern yeah but like you said it’s that the way you erase a lot of that uh I guess the way you get into the popularity contest is you go win in the playoffs yeah you

Stake your claim in a different way that’s it that’s how it has to go all right uh so remember not not really trade rumors but a couple of interesting names from the athletic that you and I have not talked about is potential fits for the Kings okay and I want to talk

About those next on the Insiders on ESPN 1320 um yeah it’s I haven’t looked it’s very possible that Adam Silver makes the injury replacement but I remember one year where I swear it wasn’t Adam Silver I I want to say it was Greg papovich who made the decision so maybe that has

Changed um I don’t know I did not watch the Bobby marks video on the king’s trade scenarios but uh rich. Ripley odyssey.com who hell yeah if you would like to sponsor the Insiders uh he did watch it and uh told me that uh like it’s it’s worth

Watching I I I think some of his premise is that the Kings because they’re running back team um like they have to be cautious about upsetting the the delicate balance of everything and uh that maybe an offseason trade is better for them and I I don’t fully disagree

With that but the the thing is with trades is you don’t always get to choose when you make a big trade sometimes a big trade happens and it’s it’s you have to make a trade when a guy becomes available and that player may not be available again so you know again we saw

The Kings go in on the Pascal yakum thing Pascal yakum likely isn’t going to be available will be a trade again and so you didn’t make the deal someone else did and like going back and getting that player again is going to be virtually impossible so it just depends on how

Much you value the player and all that stuff but yeah it’s complicated and I I did like while we were building up to the show I did do a trade scenario where the Kings could conceivably trade for a Kyle kusma without giving up herder or

Barnes it would take a like a four for one or a four for two and uh require it would be complicated but not undoable and then you know picks depends on what what it is that the uh the Washington Wizards are looking to do I’m still waiting for the play where embiid got

Hurt the game is on hey how about Jonathan kaminga yeah he’s playing well figuring it out no he’s playing well it’s crazy what happens when you Empower your young players to play I totally agree bananas um what am I where am I at I think also when you create a space for

Him to be the player that he is yes tailoring your system to your talent because that was not what they were doing before correct yeah uh we are 15 seconds until the legal identification of our radio station oh okay I like Panic Kyle better we have a

Well we have a caller oh so party on here we go our numero do I’m Kyle that’s James we’re taking you up to noon then we will hand it off to DLo and KC I want to talk about real quick what you looked worried no okay I’m good okay

That was we’re on the air I know we definitely no that’s for sure matter the way the way your face looked just now though I thought something bad happened nope all right we a okay we’ve been uh talking a little bit about the All-Star game we talked Kings heat of course the

Kings and heat face off tonight the Kings looking to make it five consecutive victories looking to get to a season High 10 games over 500 how important do you think that is 10 games is Big yeah because once you get to 10 it’s you’ve sort of secured yourself

And who you you should be yeah like you’re on a on a path where you’re a 45 to 52 win team like right there it depends whether you pick up you you know you start making some moves and stuff but you’re on you’re on a specific path

And when the the late season comes and a bunch of teams cash it in the final 25 you are not one of those teams especially when we get this close to the all-star break when you’re like you see where this thing’s heading and then a

Lot of teams go okay we’re good we know who we are and we’re goingon to play for for draft lottery even though it’s a bad draft right uh or suspect draft I we’ll see how it all works out in the end but um yeah I think 10 is Big yeah I I would

I would tend to agree with that let’s put a pin in that and discuss that a little bit more later on we’ve got Frank in El Grove we were talking about deab bonis making or not making the All-Star team Frank had a question Frank what’s

Going on man hey uh I’m not sure if James know the answer to this but I was just thinking about sabonis contract when it was announced right and uh isn’t there like an incentive in there for him to make the allar and the NBA teams like $2.5 million or something so if he

Doesn’t make it doesn’t that go from a likely incentive because he made it last year to an unlikely incentive which means that the Kings will carry a loow cap into the off season uh that was pretty much my question so I’ll check the answer off the line thanks Mike yeah

So his incentives um he gets 1.3 million for an Allstar bid and then he I believe his other is an unlikely incentive which is the all MBA which is uh he gets another 1.3 so he can get $2.6 million but um the All-Star incentive for him

Because he h he is a three-time All-Star has become a likely incentive so it does count against the cap uh and then the unlikely incentive either way they count against the cap but in different ways so like they count at the end of the year but they don’t count at the beginning of

The year so that unlikely you’re probably right the the unlikely uh I still believe is an unlikely incentive uh If he if he makes for him to make the all-nba team because it’s only 15 players so even if you’ve made it a couple of times I still think it’s an unlikely

Incentive all right yeah I can do some more uh research on it but um you know I I don’t know that they’re all likely like well I don’t know maybe and again this goes back to what I and now granted if you negotiate a an an All-Star incentive into your

Contract that’s your that’s youro but you’re banking on fan voting and then players and coaches and all these other all these other aspects that go into it I don’t I just wouldn’t I wouldn’t base my my uh my potential pay on the whims of people on Twitter that’s all no

That’s my that’s my take yeah um I was perusing the athletic today which I tend to do I read no big deal and a couple of names I want to throw at you yep as as possible fits for the Kings all right how do you feel about Daniel gaffard

Starting center for the Wizards oh I’ve always liked Daniel Gafford uh when Daniel Gafford was coming out in the draft he’s a player that I thought hey if you could get him in the late first early second uh I like him he for the first couple of

Years of his career was just a stick figure really his um body transformation reminds me a lot of Willie KY Stein um Willie KY Stein quietly became like a bean Pole to a guy who actually started to thicken up not upper body he was still smaller upper body but uh like his

Lower he he was able to build his uh his legs and yeah you know he was able to become more of a like sturdy player yeah Gafford has developed and he is a shop locker and if you were looking for somebody who’s going to be you know

You’re GNA be able to keep around for a few years he’s a guy that like if you’re looking at Young javil McGee type stuff yeah I think Gafford kind of fits into that mold right there I like Gafford this year he’s 10.8 points 7.8 boards 1.6 assists averaging more than two

Blocks a game yeah would you do a heavily protected first Davon Mitchell and Chris DTE no no I don’t think because would you do Mitchell and dwarte yeah like maybe I I’d like to see the contract that he’s on um because that’s usually like one of the determining factors for me so without

Having his contct he’s got two years left yeah and 12 mli year okay um you know I I think some of the issues that you have is number one you’re talking about a player who’s never played for a good team um like for the most part in

His career he’s been on on a bad you know well his whole career he he’s been on a bad uh Wizards team he is an Arkansas guy which is interesting he’s got two years after this one 13.3 and then 14.3 yeah see that’s a lot for me

Okay like to be honest like I I don’t mind him and if it was part of not at that price a bigger deal like but I’d want to know why I’m doing it right so and I do think he can play and I just don’t know you know he’s not a guy who

He he doesn’t even shoot threes like he never attempted a three in the NBA he has one attempt he has one oh he has one one attempt in the 2021-22 season and he missed it yes so one total so for me like this is also this this also feeds

Into my whole thing about domas needing to shoot more threes it gives them more options about who Canon play next to him no totally totally but like to pay a guy 13 14 million over the next couple years I didn’t know his contract was that High um that’s basically like ran Holmes cash

That’s that’s a good chunk of change for a guy who might play 15 or 13 minutes a night behind deonis sabonis sure if he can play alongside sabonis that would be so that’s that that was the impetus behind this for me and that’s where the discussion comes in for me because

You’re right it’s a very obvious no if you’re expecting him to be the javil McGee Alex Len mold right yeah but if you believe that hey you can get a shot blocking center next to demonus sabonis and offensively you’re going to have to change some things around and maybe it

Does mean domas hanging out on the perimeter a little more and shooting some threes then so be it for me okay that’s but but uh to your point um I don’t I I don’t is changing everything they doing offensively right now really the move yeah so last year we

Had I mean last week we had Jerry Reynolds on and Jerry Reynolds brought up a name that’s like in the same sort of vein and he brought up Jaylen Smith and is like look you know Indiana just made a move for SE yakum they’re super crowded now with Isaiah Jackson there

With Obi to in there like hey why don’t you look at that as a potential player and he makes more sense uh 10.5 5.6 uh rebounds only point6 blocks but the key to him is he’s shooting 46.9% from three um now he is getting the benefit of being fed by

By tyres Alberton and he’s you know because he’s a career three uh 33.1% three-point shooter but Jaylen Smith is kind of in that same type of you know long athletic guy that might be able to come in and and do a little bit of damage defensively but also hit a three

Yeah I think he could steal minutes alongside domas where I don’t think that’s the case with with gaffard all right the second uh have yeah okay I’m gonna I’m gonna get you one more I’m gonna get you one more here Quinton Grimes for the Knicks

No I mean like yeah quitting Grimes as a bucket but I put him in the same vein as like Malik monk if you’re making that move it’s because you’re planning for the future oh see I I man I I think defensively yeah what he brings is is

Awesome and his offense has fallen off a lot this year um he’s only shooting 36.3% from three he was up around 38 I think last year he might have been more than 38 last year but I just think defensively I think he could be what you thought you were getting with Chris DTE

Okay I I I I I like that idea way more than I like the The Gafford idea okay it’s just but again I don’t know how eager the Knicks are to move on from him and I don’t I’m not giving up like major assets if they’re going to give them

Away for next to free then great but I don’t know how much they’d be willing to do that yeah I think it’s cost prohibitive that’s the problem that you’re gonna have with Grimes that I think that the Knicks believe he’s worth a lot more than and I think there are

Certain teams out there that really like what he what he brings he’s only at 2.4 million this year and 4.3 next year uh which are both team options so like super super affordable and if he’s a guy that grows into a much bigger role then sure um and you’re gonna have you’re

Gonna have bird rights to him you’re gonna have like restrictive free agent and all that so he’s a guy that I would definitely like consider yeah but if they’re gonna want like an unprotected first for him well and that’s what I think like sort of the buzz out there is

If the Knicks are going to get rid of him they’re trying to what they’re trying to do is stockpile as many picks sure so when they go to add that next humongous piece that they think that they’ll add this Summer that they’ve got like an Arsenal to do it and they

Already have a a war chest they want more they want a more chest a more chest yes I’m sorry that was stupid okay terrible uh we’ll talk more trade stuff we got a Kyle kozma thing out of the athletic as well from David Aldridge and Josh Robbins on Robbins offered idea on

What the Kings could give up for Kyle kusma didn’t necessarily love it no but we’ll uh we’ll dive into that we’ll also dive back in to this Kings heat matchup tonight down in Miami all of that’s coming up in the final what do we got math 47 minutes on the Insiders CSN

1320 there we go yeah like I’ve watched Jaylen Smith play enough that I’m just not convinced that that he is a guy that is like unquestionably a rotational player I think that there’s a possibility for him to be good and I think he would probably play better alongside a guy like

Sabonis but I don’t know I don’t know I’m not I’m not convinced that I mean he’s still a little bit sloppy as a player you know he hasn’t refined his game to a point where you’re like okay that’s a that’s a rotational player on a good team who’s that uh Jaylen Smith

The Grim thing is interesting I mean certainly if you had to make a move where you traded Kevin herder then yeah go ahead and go out and get Grimes that would be like a second move which I don’t know how easy that would be if you made a first move

Yeah would you rather trade for Kyle kzar or Jimmy Butler man that’s so tough we can talk about this on the air too yeah I mean in all honesty I I hate saying this I would trade for kozma and it’s because Jimmy Butler’s 34 years old

And is owed what do we say like a lot 46 48 50 he’s like a max player well that he is a max player but the problem is with a max player is it it takes you got to match salaries to make a deal or come

Within 25% and coming within 25% of I mean you got to come up with almost 40 million bucks in salary so Harrison’s gone uh in in this scenario Kevin herder’s gone um Davon Mitchell you can’t even really play on the peripheral with like Davon and like you’re probably skipping straight to

Trey ly at his 8 million salary and you know you might even have to like pull out lyes and and put like Malik monk into that so what are you doing Jesus but like I’m just saying to get to the salary so in this scenario you’re resetting your roster because the Nicks

I mean the the heat aren’t going to drop five players so they can make a trade yeah yeah that that’s just not gonna happen right so I I don’t know like like dealing well maybe they would maybe they’d be like okay we don’t need to be

This team anymore or we’re not going to be this team yeah yeah that’s tough I’d rather have kosma yeah for all the reasons you just laid out it’s like a layup to me yeah yeah well the kosma thing is just like he’s so affordable yeah no that’s it and

He he’s affordable MoneyWise he’s gonna cost less to pry away from from Washington than Butler would be yeah from Miami like everything is is Butler like in a vacuum better oh yeah he’s a better player and if you just had Jimmy Butler on your team you have a better

Chance of winning today no doubt but the problem is that in order to get him okay all right I’m Kyle that’s James kings taking on the heat of Miami and let me tell you that Miami Heat is made worse by the humidity the humidity

Is so bad I went to I know it’s not Miami but I went to Key West recently yeah not to brag and it was awful man I’ve been to like Fort Lauderdale and like Stewart Florida above that and in Orlando and man if you haven’t been there if you haven’t been like for

People who are like California people right it’s so like the humidity is so bad that you are drenched in sweat every single moment of the day no matter what no matter what you’re doing like you’re just sitting there you’re you’re drenched in sweat I sat outside

For an hour doing Seaglass art and had to go inside shower and change before going out yes then the problem is you walk into any store and in order to keep the moisture and mildew out they have their air conditioners cranked to like 60 yes so you’re covered in sweat you

Walk in you instantly have the chills and you’re freezing yes it is absolutely miserable it’s awful there are so many better places in the world to go to than that’s what that’s dude when when I was down there and I’ve been to I’ve been to a couple different places in in Florida

A couple times don’t judge and when I’m down there it’s like why do people want to play sports here I don’t I’m not built for this but you know what dearen Fox will tell you he he loves the humidity of Houston right hon from there yeah way more than

He likes the California dry heat oh man I’ll take the California dry heat all day long yeah same yeah I mean I I it’s hot like yeah it gets super hot where you walk outside you’re like oh it hits you in the face you’re like I I do not

Want to be outside anymore especially if you’re like walking on blacktop but come on now I lived in Arizona for a couple years and I will say so I get the dry heat aspect of like California because up here we might get a week of at 113 115 in

Arizona it’s like and again that’s in a really bad year where it’s like dude it is but like 107 108 in Arizona it is just like three months of highs of 110 and above and I don’t care at that point that the Heat yeah it sucks dude dude I talked to my

Brother when my brother lived in Arizona I talked to him at like 11:00 at night one night and it was still 109 at 11 o’clock at night like it it just doesn’t cool off you’re it’s just absolutely miserable like I don’t even want to be there brutal all right let’s

Get some Kings do get some Kings do a keys Victory let’s get some keys to a Kings victory tonight in Miami is to take on the heat with a 430 tip James what is your first key for the Sacramento Kings oh my goodness my first

Key uh oh my goodness you caught me uh no win the trip win it like that’s it win the trip you start three and 0 you’re on a seven game Road Trip you win this game you come back 500 or better you’ve already guaranteed You’ come back you’re better than 500 you’ve already

Guaranteed a winning you’ve already guaranteed a winning trip and that’s actually a big deal like if you do do this I it’s it’s a big momentum Builder going forward and to keep it rolling to get to five game win streak at the right time to start getting that separation

Where some teams are struggling it’s a huge moment for the Kings yeah yeah I I uh I’m right there I’m right there with you moment in a in a season that’s been as up and down as this one you need to find an up and ride it for a while yeah

And and I think you can do that tonight key number one for me is you got to bring the dogs like you you thought Memphis was was tough because of how they played I know the heat culture thing is is a bit now but with ER bolstra and with Jimmy Butler and with

Pat Riley and the foundation and the culture that they’ve built they are going to bring it and they do not want to get to eight losses in a row as bad as the Kings want to get to five wins in a row that he do not want to get to

Eight losses in a row that’d be very embarrassing for them I think you’re going to get their very best punch tonight and they they have some dogs and you got to bring your own yeah and you know what Kyle I’ll add to that if you’re the Kings the the Heat play the

Wizards at they go they fly to Washington Washington for their next game you know that they know that they’re going to get a Get Right game they can see it you need to push that off one more game you need to say okay you guys know you you’re gonna get right

Next game but you’re not gonna get right against us yep so it’s a big deal no doubt number two don’t play down to the level of competition they’ve lost seven straight don’t don’t give them life yeah this is a weird one because you think play down to the competition like

Memphis but also with how the heat are playing right now and frankly the the kings are just better than Miami yeah so I I’m I I agree with you when I first saw this one I was kind of like H but I I totally get what you’re

Say yeah I mean at a certain point a team that’s lost seven in a row you can’t be the team that breaks the streak and I think we saw that last year where they the Kings let off the gas against a couple of teams that were really struggling wasn’t it um like Charlotte

Had lost 11 in a row and and beat the Kings yes it was something bizarre like that yes you can’t be that team this year no well you can’t be that team right now right going into going into February that’s not where you want to be

No as a as a club yep uh number two for me I changed the turnover thing to like fundamentals dude just do the fundies yeah don’t throw the ball out of bounds don’t try crazy crosscore passes don’t try no look bounce passes in the lane don’t try if Miami is going to generate

Some turnovers on their own you don’t need to give them free ones and you don’t need to let him get out and run because offensively they’re not super awesome and if you let them start getting out and run getting out getting out in transition just makes life a lot

Easier for a team that’s really been struggling so if you go out and you play clean basketball you have a way better shot of of making it eight losses in a row for them so what you’re saying is don’t look like you just went out all night long in Miami the night before

Yes exactly what I’m saying all right my third key uh show your all NBA so bonis beat out bam for the third uh Team all NBA Center spot last year and he’s been the better player bam brings a lot to the table but this is another game where

He can show that he is the better player and he is the deserving player when it comes to all NBA and the awards that they come after that we always talk about like recognition with sa bonus right we just talked about it earlier with the whole all star thing in the

Popularity contest yeah if you go out and look what what what do you have 20 and 26 and five 20 26 and five the other night yeah against Memphis like that’s an amazing statline that’s a great statline you also did it against Memphis against nobody against a depleted

Memphis and it’s interesting you say nobody when Memphis has the reigning Defensive Player of the Year just continues my yeah continues my my thoughts on Triple J but uh but if you go out if you’re sabonis and you go out and you have 18 16 and

Nine in a win against bam out of Bio in the heat that’s the kind of thing that you go wow they he had a near triple double he had a triple double and against bam like dang yeah that’s that’s the kind of game that gets you on the M

He’s actually played well against bam in the past and he gets bam in foul trouble and and then bam will get him in foul trouble and then both of them are in foul trouble it’s like perfect that might be something that I remember when I through PR piing fourth key stay out

Of foul trouble no yeah uh third key for me speed them up the heat don’t like to play fast they are 29th in Pace they want to get you in the half court and they want to grind you into dust and if you get out and run on them I don’t

Think that they have a ton of answers yeah the Kings have really really pushed the tempo lately and they’ve they’ve tried to get back to who they were of even on a made basket getting the ball out of bounds getting it back in bounds and racing up the court and it’s

Something that if you do against this Miami Heat team I don’t know that they can keep up all the time no and especially and even when you get this is something we talked about a lot earlier in the years it doesn’t even need to be get the ball out of the basket and

Sprint down the court and get into your offense as quick as possible but it is when you do get into your offense do it with Force like do it with purpose you have to move and I I think if if you can do that and keep Miami from just getting

Set in their defense they’re eventually going to figure out what you want to do and if you make it a little more fenetic you you speed them up offensively it messes them up defensively I think that’s one of the one of the big things tonight yeah I think one of the other I

Would point out to they they just made a trade for Terry roier for ke and Terry roier like he loves to play the Kings like he’s hammered the Kings all season long like he had the big blowup game early when they beat uh when Charlotte

Beat the like this is a player that um he’s still finding his way and how he fits into their their roster but when he steps on the court and he looks across and he sees the Kings again he’s gonna be like all right I know I I feel

I know how to do this I know where I’m at I I know what this means it’s go time no y y all right well hopefully hopefully the kings are listening right now down in South Beach yeah I think so getting ready for the game tapped into

Kylin James on ESPN 1320 there we go and uh if they follow these keys and avoid the Miami flu but of course that’s not something they can do tonight that has to be based on how they prepared yesterday no totally totally totally so and hey like I said if they if they come

Out flat tonight I’m not gonna come in here tomorrow and land base them I’ll get it okay yeah I mean I think we all have those days right yeah like there no you know what hey you know what no I’ve never had a day like an NBA player can

Have in Miami I can confidently say that you’ve never rolled in here and been like oh oh what what was I thinking no not not to this no not not at that level not at all not at that level definitely L megas a couple times like that well

Kyle the good thing is it tomorrow we will talk about all of these keys and we’ll give away a $100 gift certificate to Jiffy Lube as part of our uh Jiffy L fast break giveaway and you’ll also be put in for a a Sacramento Kings jersey

If if you somehow win so yeah good stuff yeah so um tomorrow’s player of the game is your last chance to enter for January’s Jersey giveaway oh so we’re going to give away jersey soon yeah we sure are do we even know what jersey or we’re gonna let people

Choose uh no we we do know which which Jersey I haven’t gotten confirmation which one it is oh but there’s a couple of foxes a sabonis and a Murray oh so I gotta find out exactly which one it is but we’ll be giving way that uh tomorrow

Starting at uh at 10:00 we will tell you how to enter to win that all right more coming up next on ESPN 1320 what’s going on everybody man I a lot of you guys really love Jonathan Isaac like you do and and I understand I I think but I don’t

Like the way that the Sacramento Kings had a season last year where you didn’t have any players miss any games is because you went out and you got players who historically don’t miss any games Jonathan Isaac is he’s 26 years old and he’s played 176 games in his

Career let me put this in in a way that maybe you could possibly understand he’s played 176 games in his career and his career spans he’s he’s part of the two 2017 NBA draft with dearon Fox he’s taken either the pick after or the pick after that I think

He’s the the six pick in the 2017 NBA draft I’ll be right back okay he is a six overall pick just put this in perspective his 176 games is nine games fewer than Harrison Barnes gameplay streak I I just like he’s played seven years I I don’t understand he’s been in

The league seven years and like you can love what he does but even this year he’s played 29 games he’s averaged 14 minutes a game why would you wanna why would you want to spend the money because he makes 17.4 million this year and 17.4 million next year for a

Player who cannot stay on the court under almost any circumstance so hey you guys go ahead anyway I yeah he gets brought up all the time all the time and you know even people bring up wend Carter Jr W Carter Jr can’t stay on the court either I like him too but

He’s a guy that misses a ton of time yeah like there’s a 5 a 44 a 43 a 54 a 62 a 57 and he’s played 21 games this year like if you want to miss games due to injury you go out and get injury prone players it’s that

Simple you can’t think that you’re going to be able to fix somebody shout out to uh Ant-Man who picked up a $440,000 fine from the league we’re talking about the game officials um Jaylen durran out of Detroit how about Jaylen durran yeah if you can get Jaylen durran go get Jaylen

Durran he’s he’s super young super super super young they’re not giving up on Jaylen dur yeah they’re not they’re not doing that like I I try to provide like some honesty and some like I try to like help you like there are players that you can go get and players that you

Can’t go get so I try to play Within the re the realm of what is potentially feasible ever yeah we back skirt oh my bad we both did the same thing at the same time uh that’s funny my brain is just not working this week man yeah yeah the midnight Sunday

Bedtime is throwing me off I started oh jeez here we go here’s a good question from Dr David yeah in the chatty house youtube.com ESPN 1320 twitch.tv ESPN 1320 if you want to hang out with us hang out in the chatty house always a good conversation happening there uh regardless of what we’re

Talking about chatty house is gonna have a good combo going that’s what I love about it you can en join it there Dr David asked if um Monty McNair would include Sasha in any trades that is a really really intriguing question yeah yeah and so you have to look at Sasha in

A couple of different ways too yeah so first of all he signed a three-year deal with the third year is non- guaranteed or it’s partially guaranteed and so like a team could look at him in a couple of different ways for me if I’m looking at

It right now and I have to choose between him and Trey lyes in all honesty I choose Trey lyes yeah it’s not even a question for me yeah so that’s so if he has to be included in a trade my only concern is that the Kings believe what the Kings

Believe he will be and and how much they told him being in Sacramento for his career as part of this equation and all that I there is something in me that says that there like promises may have been made to get him to to Sacramento

And then to go back on your word and trade him three months later might not have been what some of those promises were about and so I I think that he does have game and I think that there is a way that he can help a team and I even

Think there’s there’s a way he can help the Kings I I would agree but I I’d even say at this point if you were to go get out go out and get another forward I would probably include one of my Fords and if I had to choose between my Fords

I’m gonna have you know Keegan Murray is Untouchable in this scenario and then after that the next guy down is the next best player is Harrison Barnes and then the next best I would start tearing them and then you have to see what you can

Get away with a trade and you know like we were talking at break and someone for some reason people bring up Jonathan Isaac all the time and can I real quick talk about Sasha real quick last thing on it it’s not about getting rid of Sasha no it’s not the like the Kings

Need to just get rid of this guy it is that hey you know what he could probably be a valuable asset who doesn’t have a consistent role here and maybe another team views him as a valuable asset who could have a consistent role on their team that’s why his name is being

Brought up it’s not because he stinks or something no well and I’d even add that if you’re looking at him and and uh and Trey lyes if you’re looking at them as potential trade guys right one of them makes eight million one of them makes like six and a half so like they’re

Almost interchangeable in a deal and that’s why I I bring him up it’s like again when you’re looking at the Sacramento Kings you have to look at players at some point as their salary cap figure you’ve got Fox and you’ve got sabonis and you’ve got Keegan Murray and

Then you have to know what Keegan Murray will down the road as far as salary then after that like it it sounds horrible and and just like not very nice but Kevin herder has to be looked at as like a17.5 million salary as a as a trade

Block that you can move and Harrison Barnes if you need to get if you’re trying to get a $40 million player it’s going to take a 17 and a $18 million player to get to 35 so you’re within 25% to make a trade and that’s how you have

To look at these guys at some point which is which is lame and not cool and and it it’s it feels bad but the reality man but it is it is a reality that these guys are you know you can’t go out and trade Davon Mitchell for anyone in the

League he makes five million bucks and then if you tack in Chris D’s four million bucks now you got n million so now you might be able to get up to12 million player so that’s how you have to kind of look at these things at some

Point and it’s not just like how do I throw all these things in and have them come out the other side and like you know have a trade work because there are very strict rules to NBA trades yeah yeah it’s not like that’s why I like the

NFL so much with their salary cap structure because you can trade anybody for anybody as long as you got the cap space for it well yeah but then you deal with dead money and you deal with all no no doubt it’s not it’s not 100% that but

It’s not you don’t have to salary match and do all that it’s like if the salaries work for this year you gota you you have to figure out next year next year but if the salaries work this year you’re golden yeah totally totally and anyway to to back to Jonathan Isaac

Finish the point on Jonathan Isaac like I like Jonathan Isaac as a player like there’s he does fit like what you might think the Kings need 611 crazy wingspan crazy athleticism Kyle he’s played 176 games in a seven-year career and Harrison Barnes games played streak is at

185 that the conversation’s over I’m not paying a guy 17.6 million next year as well who doesn’t play basketball and it’s unfortunate because you know the kings were on the court when he blew out his knee in the bubble and watching Harry Giles go over and

Talk to him while he’s laying on the ground and had blown out his ACL and you knew he had blown out his ACL and watching Harry Giles a guy who had been through it multiple times having like a conversation with him on the court that

Was hard yeah but that’s you if you want to be a team that doesn’t miss games you don’t go trade for players that Miss games you know it is what it is even even when and and again I I just I couldn’t agree more with you this is not

About Jonathan Isaac on paper necessarily no like because on paper he makes all the sense in the world and honestly a reason he’s probably available is because of everything you just said if Jonathan Isaac was playing 80 games a year 75 games a year whatever number I don’t think the magic are like

Yeah we need to get rid of this guy well they probably wouldn’t have drafted both Mo Vagner and Palo banero they probably wouldn’t even have been in the running to draft one of those players because they probably would have been a better team but the fact is he’s not he doesn’t play

And you’re not a good team when he’s on he doesn’t help your team win because he can’t stay on the court long enough to play Yeah and I don’t hate the idea of like if Jonathan Isaac was a free agent yeah like a low budget like two year

Five take a flyer right that’s and in fact frankly that’s what I think the Kings need to probably do a lot of this offseason is just go find yeah hey you’re 610 and athletic maybe you can play maybe you can’t get in here and

We’ll see and if he a free agent I would love the idea I’d be all aboard yeah but I’m not giving up assets to go get him no I’m I’m fully I’m fully on board with that too it’s tough because some of these players they can help you but you

Have to balance so many things when when you’re you’re making commitments and like you’re certainly not gonna trade Harrison Barnes a guy who doesn’t miss any games for a guy who plays yeah you know what amounts to two NBA seasons in seven no matter how gez putting it like that is nuts

Um that and that’s just it no matter how much better Jonathan Isaac is than Harrison Barnes Harrison Barnes is better when Jonathan Isaac isn’t playing yeah I mean that’s yeah and I I I would say that Harrison bars has proven to be a much better player than Jonathan Isaac

Over his career and part of that’s because Jonathan Isaac just can’t like he can’t develop as a player because he’s not on the court yeah tough his third season he played 34 games he’s 11.9 points 6.8 uh boards and over two blocks a game almost two and a half blocks a game yeah

Kolinko that’s what love right you’d you’d love that statline as the king’s backup center he’s a he’s a Andre kolinko type player like a or I shouldn’t say backup center next to doas yeah he’s a disruptive fourth he can be he he but the fact that he can’t play

Yeah most time like hey the conversation’s over yeah we can talk and that’s so and like I said you can talk injury flyers in in free agency that’s fine but at the at the trade deadline I would rather go see them get a player that they they are much more confident

Will be on the court and impactful for this year no totally that’s if they’re making a move you’ve gota you’ve got to improve the top like I would say I would like to see them improve the starting lineup but I think you’re more likely you need to improve the uh the top seven

Of your rotation I want to get back to what we were talking about earlier with uh I it’s not a report from the a it a write a discussion in the athletic a write up an article in the athletic yeah from David Aldridge and Josh Robbins David Aldridge of course Very plugged in

In Washington DC Josh Robbins is a is a beat writer for the Wizards out there um Kyle kosma they basically they went through the entire Wizards roster and we’re like all right if they make the whole roster available who goes where For What and the kings came up as a fit

For Kyle kusma and the deal that and I don’t want to get into the kozma fit does he fit does he not like we’ve done that a million times y talked about the merits of it great the trade that Josh Robbins lays out is Kyle kozma to the

Kings for Kevin herder and Trey ly and I know that you’re big on the Kyle kosma idea because his contract is relatively affordable he does things that would immediately help the Kings if you plug them into their rot and again that affordability aspect of

It is is key do you still like the deal if it’s herder plus ly no and I think one of the reasons why like I’m not even considering that deal like maybe you consider like again Davon Mitchell and um and Kevin hder and in a trade right

Sure but I don’t think I’m I’m crushing my depth and then having to come up with the new starting shooting guard MH in order to make that deal and uh again I like kozma yes I as a player I like his contract better and I also like the idea

That if Kyle kusma doesn’t work out a year from now two years from now because of his contract and and just the declining scale and what it is it’s so easily movable if it doesn’t work out just okay it didn’t work out we can move him very easily right yeah I think if

You’re dealing with Washington Washington is a team who on the season is 9 and 37 N9 and 37 that’s they’re done they’re cooked and they’re not cooked this year they’re cooked next year they’re probably cooked the year after and they thought they thought they were assembling a team that

Was gonna like win a little I think they’re assembling a team that would help them like get through a time right like a right group of Seasons they thought they were putting together a roster that wasn’t going to be 9 and 37 after 46 games yes so at this point

Though if you’re dealing with Washington what Washington watches it is the trade capital and I think the biggest piece to what Josh Robbins and and David Aldridge wrote was very specific it’s that you know Washington has been asking for two second two first round picks but that

Price is probably a little higher than what they’re willing to accept and so if I’m the Kings I’m trying to figure out a way to piece together a deal that does not include Uh Kevin herder certainly and and not even Harrison Barnes if this is the player Harrison Barnes is gonna be

And I can get that player Harrison Barnes the player from the last few games yeah the one from the last few games but the one that’s been in Sacramento for the last five years if I can get that player as my third forward with Keegan Murray and Kyle kosma as my

Starters okay so now how do I construct a de a deal and like there are ways you can do it but that’s where you start like okay if you have to trade Trey LS and a deal like that where you’re not giving up Kevin hder but you’re giving

Up Tre ly but so you’re looking at ly you’re looking at dwarte you’re looking at Davon Mitchell and throw in whether it’s Kessler or throw in like that’s you can make the money work without attaching either herder or Barnes and now if you’re the Kings and you’re

Trying to get good now and you’re trying to take a huge step now there’s a way that you can do that without touching the run it back core where you’re inserting a a top five player into your rotation maybe a probably a starter yeah you’re yeah yeah yeah let’s even say

Like kosma might even be like your fourth best player maybe fifth right right there but if you’re doing that now what that does to the rest of your rotation is amazing and the fact that you’re losing Trey L is a bummer but the fact that you’re inserting Harrison

Barnes into that that spot right and kma is taking Harrison bar to spawn the rotation yeah see now that’s when it’s like okay would I give up a first yeah I’m giving up a lottery protected first yes um in 2026 and 27 well like whatever

But I’m also giving up maybe one or two second round picks as well and and I think that that is a happy medium where you’re they may not want the player that’s kind of where they’re at they don’t need the player what they need is a couple of contracts a couple of people

That might actually fit into their rotation right now just so they can get through through this season and next but realistically they’re they’re making a trade to get to uh to get the draft picks the draft Capital yeah and that’s where so our guy Buddha said that’s a

Championship level team right there uh I I don’t that I don’t know but I feel way better about that version of the Kings than I do this one the one that you just laid out where it’s K in the starting lineup and now Harrison Barnes is is

Your seventh guy yeah and that that I like that so much better let’s get let’s get Kenny caroway in here DLo and Casey Kenny caroway in here for the handoff uh what’s going on Kenny yo yo uh how do you feel about that idea so I don’t know

How much of that you heard but in the athletic today David Aldridge and Josh Robbins from Washington they mentioned a Kyle kosma trade to the Kings and a hypothetical one not a report not a sourc thing just throwing it out there look like Kevin hder and treyes Kevin herder and treyes so we’re

James and I are both pretty much out on that idea but if it’s Trey lyes and then the other stuff to make the money work for KY kosma where you have kosma in your starting lineup and now Harrison Barnes is your seventh guy that I think makes the Kings really

Significantly better in a way that just Kyle kman in a vacuum does not my first thought is I’d rather keep Kevin herder and Trey Harrison Barnes now why Washington would do that not exactly sure um no knock on Harrison it’s just you know he’s got more years on his contract more money

Things of that nature and they’re probably not trying to add a whole lot of longterm salary sure so that that would be an issue but my first thought if we’re just talking players and what I’d rather do is I’d rather keep keep Trey LA and and move Harrison barns

Really see in my like if I’m judging those two at this point I think herder does because he’s 25 because he does stretch defense and all that stuff that’s one thing but I I also if I’m the Kings I Tred to get it I try to get a

Deal done without either of them in it that for sure and if you can do that that’s where yeah that’s where we’re laying out that’s first and foremost like I just saying Harrison because I feel like you got to give somebody up but if you can do a situation where both

Barnes and herder stay but you said real quick I’m fascinated by this you said you’d rather trade Harrison Barnes than Trey LS yeah I trust I trust Trey LS in that role more than Harrison Barnes at this point that’s coming off the bench and uh being able to do stuff I

Mean I I I need I need somebody that can stretch the floor and isn’t going to be afraid to stretch the floor and shoot and it’s going to rebound and could potentially play um you know the four or the five in certain situations coming off the bench and I trust Trey l a

Little bit more with that right now than I do Harrison Barnes that’s what I’d be fascinated to see because I don’t I I I don’t I don’t know if I agree or disagree with that which is good radio but I would be fascinated to see what Harrison Barnes looks like if put

Into that role because James you and I were talking about earlier the like what makes Harrison Barnes valuable is his his ability to take on a role within a team that is a background role that is a that is a fringe okay you’re in the starting five but you’re very much

Number five among those five I’d be really interested to see if he is the second guy off the bench where there are going to be times every night where yeah hey you’re probably the number two scoring option maybe the number three scoring option real quick I’ll say something about that yeah and I

And I and I like Harrison I love Harrison but I don’t I don’t know what happened I want to be perfectly clear when I say that I’m just trying to figure out what happened but he was asked to take like the the most reduced role ever in his career this past year

And he was gone for 40 games like he couldn’t handle it yeah he couldn’t do it and still be productive he was like oh well you need me to be the fifth scorer well I’ll just I’m just gone and not that he was pouting or anything like

That I’m just saying he didn’t know how to handle that so now for like yo come off the bench for an increased role though yeah increased but Trey L has plenty of nights where he gets four or five shots yeah like he not getting a lot of looks that’s I would I would

Think that if you had Harrison Barnes as your Off the Bench with Malik monk as your two center pieces Off the Bench that you’re going to have that the Barnes is going to play a much more crucial role than he did as a starter and it’s and it’s what we always talk

About when it comes to why you you don’t put Malik monk in the starting lineup you put Malik monk where he’s best suited which is as that that guy off the bench who gets to do whatever he wants you put him alongside dearon Fox and we see it in burst during the game

Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t but having two ball handlers on the court at one time is a is a good thing to have but also there’s times where just doesn’t work and it’s clunky and so in my opinion like like having Harrison Barnes move to the bench might just open

Up a whole new world for him he goes from number five to number two and that’s that’s a huge deal and like yeah you got to build out the rest of the roster right because you do if you make that move if you somehow make a move

With Kevin herder and with uh Harrison Barn still on the roster to go get Kyle kusma it really does got your depth so you’re looking at no more Forte no more Davon Mitchell um you’re looking at no more and you’re probably looking at no more Kesler Edwards right or no more

Colby Jones or or no more Alex Lenn one of those pieces is going and so now you got to look at your team and go how does this piece together and then how do I recover after that and can Keon Ellis backfill can if Kobe Jones is still on

The r can Kobe Jones backfill or do I need to make a secondary move to go get another piece do I need to go trade a second round pick for to a team that has a hole and needs to or or has a salary cap issue like the Golden State

Warriors is there a player on the Golden State Warriors that’s a lowbudget player but you could give a second round pick to and you absorb that contract into your 15th roster spot and they save you know up $4 million yeah like there’s something like that out there that you

Could actually keep stacking up and making your team better that’s where it starts to get it gets interesting and that’s why I don’t like waiting until the last second because all of these things have to fall into place at the same time yeah I I think the biggest thing for me right now

Is is and keep using the qualifier I love Harrison Barnes It’s not a dig at him and it’s not about his talent I just don’t trust them I don’t trust them to show up yeah I don’t trust them and that that that doesn’t mean that doesn’t mean I

Don’t believe he can I just don’t trust him but you don’t trust because this has been more than a decade of this this is just kind of who he is as a player and it’s not bad but I understand why you wouldn’t want to be like yeah

Let’s give that guy a bigger role it’s funny because I don’t trust Kyle kosma but I trust his contract and so now if you’re not trusting one guy and I’m not trusting the other like well that with kosma he may do like weird stuff but I know you’re gonna one way or another

You’re gonna know he’s out there I don’t like that I don’t know Harrison could just be a ghost yeah yeah I’m not comfortable with that I think there’s a role there though where he could really find success and and be a ma and it would like make him a much better player

Within the confines of who the kings are so and we’re talking about shooting we’re talking about versatility defensively talking about a guy and if you need to go big at some point and you can go fox or or monk with Harrison Barn Kyle kusma and Keegan Murray all on the

Front line together with sabonis or with javil McGee I don’t know it’s intriguing to me I I would at least if I can Venture down this road and I can put a PE put a deal together that for pieces I would do it last thing real quick then

We got to get to to DLo and KC Kenny would you by the way next week we’re calling it DLo and Kenny yeah no KC allow okay very good not next week okay yeah for for no Tech n being played either no no chance uh real quick you’re

An All-Star replacement in the NBA Allstar game in Indiana you know you’re not going to play a lot do you want to go I want to go because I like the All-Star stuff I don’t know if these NBA players feel the same way about that especially if you’ve already gone no

Doubt all right very good uh that’s Kenny carway dowlo and casy are coming up next right here on ESPN 1320 Sacramento sports leader thanks chatty house you guys don’t mind thumbs up thumbs up for you boy we ran out of time I really wanted to mention this in fact I might bring

This back tomorrow Jill um but there was a really good like graphic that showed like productivity from every team’s like one through nine and the kings were right there one through four and then five through nine is just a crater there’s just such a huge drop off and

That’s why I think if you bring in kma and then you move everything down I think it improves him a lot so no that’s what I okay uh goodbye everybody appreciate you guys that’s not a good get up Morse set in on man on guys I think the like

There’s a lot of stuff out there Al it’s been quiet from the Kings there’s a lot of stuff out there over kma’s asking price isn’t what it’s reported yeah no [ __ ] we’re we’re a week away and everyone’s called your bluff and oh no no no that’s not what no no it’s not

That always comes back to the if you think you have a $6 million house but the best offer you can get is three million I hate to tell you you only have a $3 million house can’t imagine if Kenny only Milli I mean this I got a this a shack bro I

Don’t know I don’t what you’re talking about although if I lived in a Bay Area Shack oal area my house three houses down if it was on the main Lake still James got the security guard that’ll shoot you if you don’t H I don’t know that lady was a bit

Hostile with I’m sorry who n spell it b a r l i n g okay you can go through sir they were they were hardcore with you at the gate no I’m was just kidding she was a very pleasant very pleasant lady I like that we have a gate there are

Plenty of people out there that I do not want coming in and visiting my one of the reasons I moveed to that place that reminds me talk about Ham’s house when we get on the air what about Ham’s house I have to listen oh

[ __ ] Ken if you’re in there I got you I see your your house my house is size added 1700 feet all right friends see a hammer see you at uh 3 yeah what we do on Friday uh uh no we don’t have to do Friday because we’re out there and I

Don’t think we could do that Yeahs good uh we might have to do a zoom call with that we talked about before okay yeah just let me know I’ll hit you up okay what’s going on people we can we can check Sports Mecca off the list is responded to his

Tweet shook it up respect there it’s fine it’s all I asked for acknowledge what the hell you said you acknowledge it we keep it moving I don’t know what’s happening but okay I’m with it Sports Mecca is checked off some of you people it’s on it’s on

It’s on for for the rest of the year some of y’all is on for the rest of the year because you were a little too Brazen with what you were talking about Norm what up though Draymond Green is the most delusional professional athlete in the history of sports Allstar Trey young was balling

Last night Trey should get in I don’t think there’s that many guards in the in the East he should he probably should get in there what you get into we got to go Well KX yeah yeah yeah we got him screaming DLo Klo K DLo k we got him screaming DC we a number one spot we a number one spot for some sports huh got the city going crazy when we work huh we top two but we ain’t two we in first huh and

When you need the real we is who you search huh D KC D KC D KC D we a number one to me on where Y at where yall where them Vibes at game day here as we welcome you in see East Coast game day here on the West

That means afternoon basketball yes indeed It’s the final day of January here with d and KC I’m Damian Barling the ultimate needle mover in God bone himself hey is Kenny carway yes sir acknowledge me we’re happy that you’re here with us man youry boy Jesse snuck something in there Bo I remember we’ll

Get back to it we’ll get back to it he snuck something what did I do come on man I don’t know if I always like the disrespect Trey young gets around the basketball game we here what is it well he said Derek white gets in over Trey young I

Don’t think that’s what he said I I think didn’t you say I did not say over Trey young I was just trying to I was just trying to support my fellow Celtic you said Trey young is an Allstar he said Derek White should be an All-Star too we got to

Go you know I like to cause a little chaos every now and then I like I think that’s crazy hey Dereck white derck White’s had a hell of a season man I was critical of him last year uh he’s he’s bald out I don’t think he would I don’t

Know if he’s an allar I don’t know if he I realistically I don’t think he’s getting in that’s yeah I don’t think he’d get in over Trey I think the only way he’d get in would be in addition to Trey he’s he’s he’s had a hell of a

Season I’ve been kind of surprised Jason and Jaylen are gonna make it right yeah I think I think I think so yeah the whole the whole original thought was I don’t think there’s porzingis isn’t is he because he’s had a nice little season too that’s a he’s had a good season but

I don’t think he’s got All-Star numbers okay right but the thing I think about and the reason why I thought about Trey Trey young and while it’s not even crazy Dereck white gets in there it doesn’t feel like there’s as many good stars in the East deserving

Stars in these I could be wrong but it just well I think all the obvious ones have already been named and I’m guessing man I I hate this there there’s probably gonna be an injury replacement on the Eastern Conference side too with our boy yeah that was tough that that was a tough

Tough look man and all I can say is I’m thankful that that was my man Jonathan kaminga that fell on him because if it was 23 oh my gosh we would have spent an hour talking about what a what a nonsensical clown that dude is he did

Some stuff earlier in the game I’m tell he ain’t gonna make it then he cut a podcast oh boy dude Draymond is delusional that boy is flat out delusional he’s something else he’s something else as I real quick as I look at the Eastern guards I don’t need no

Real quick have you looked at Today’s Show we vibing today that’s all we doing we vibing today I was looking I was scouring the USA Today I was like well damn get in on The Vibes cuz I just I started not much here I started I I just got thoughts I literally just

Wrote some thoughts down I was like let’s do a show based on my thoughts you know what’s bad because like Hoops hype is pretty much like my breaking case of emergency we had to go to that yesterday oh Hoops hype is a good that’s a good especially when kings aren’t playing

That’s a good out shout out to USA Today I go I go old school USA the only reason I don’t like USA Today is because 467,000 ads pop up and I can rarely actually find the article and then I have to decide my bad hey except Niners wire which is a

Subsidy of USA Today Niners wire is legit my my my my favorite 49ers resource absolutely from my favorite 49ers Insider uh but yeah the the the the ners wire version of USA Today is is fantastic no worries that other stuff willon make the podcast no worries you’re good very good

Delete um but yeah it’s I mean I was talking to JY today career day I was like oh what we going to talk about today this is kind of yeah that’s what rich just asked me what are we doing today I was like bro I vibing yeah we

Chilling we got a Kings game at 4:30 we gonna talk about that King trying to get 10 games over 500 trying to get five in a row and I don’t I I just I I if it again if this was Detroit or Charlotte I’d be like man don’t lose to this team

This is Miami now I’m like this feels like a game that Miami is desperate to get well do desperate yeah they’re desperate to get they need to they need to like stop they need to slow this down I think Miami’s a good team I’d be they would raise eyebrows from well raise my

Eyebrows uh if they lost eight games in a row yeah right the other side of that um looking on the king side if they I feel like coming into like you’re saying like Miami they’re losing seven l seven in a row and all that like they’re going

To be ready to go if the Kings come out of this with a win I feel like we’re coming out of this game like kings played well almost like are looking up again yeah if the Kings come out of tonight’s game with a win to me that’s a

I’m with you that’s a big deal yeah for sure that’s a big deal because again you you could talk about seven straight to me with a team like Miami that makes it more dangerous they’re a they’re as as good old J.R would say is is a wounded wounded animal it’s a wounded

Rattlesnake right there uh and they’re ready to you know they’re they’re ready to strike back they’ve been trying to figure some things out and you know we’re still trying to figure out exactly what we’re seeing with the kings that that Grizzlies game isn’t you know super helpful other than

You won keep it moving play better versus Miami uh but at least you won that one yeah so I’m anxious to see what they do man how they come out how how they’re gonna be uh respond to this opportunity it’s another opportunity yeah indeed it is uh Jesse sorry go

Ahead no I was just gonna to finish the conversation about the eastern Allstars real quick I’m looking at the the votes for the fans and stuff stuff like that thees Dame started I think Trey does make it because there’s just not enough players so okay tre’s having a yeah he’s

Having a worthy season yeah uh but Trey Donovan Tyrese Maxie and Brunson I guess that’s about it because because two of the Trey might be like wild card hey I think the guards are gonna be Brunson yeah brunson’s and Mitchell Maxi and Trey might be wild cards but when you look at the

The front Court there not a lot there there’s not there’s not a lot there at all Mel Bridges was seventh in in the voting so front Court you already got I forgot who the starters were Giannis embid in Tatum yeah so after that Jimmy Butler Jaylen Brown bam uh Jimmy Butler

And and now the for that are supposed to be selected that’s why I said the two wild cards might come from the guards dere white isn’t far away I ain’t going lie that’s what I was really looking for he’s not far is is may not impact to well Julius has been hurt Julius

Um what about your boy that we talked about yesterday who’s that Jared Allen I got started a little late okay if I if I agree I agree I’m just out there go Pao before I’d go Jared so that I was that’s the other thing I was gonna ask was does Pao get

Into the All-Star Game Kyle kma’s ninth in fan voting or was ninth well you know the asking price for Kyle kma isn’t been what it’s reported that’s that’s shocking as we’re eight days away from the trade deadline that all of a sudden the narrative is changing here a little

Bit I’m I’m stunned to see this happen I’m stunned personally me just me I’m stunned to find out that the asking price for Kyle kosma isn’t the same as the asking price for Alex Caruso in Chicago multiple first round picks if you want these guys on your team I’m

Sorry Mr Washington general manager and I can’t remember who it is anymore it’s not Tommy sheeper it’s not I I’m in salute to whoever’s running Chicago remember y’ both are full of crap yeah they’re they’re gone he’s gone Tommy Shepard’s gone um but no y y’all got to stop this yeah y’all got

To stop trying to negotiate through the media like has that ever worked or maybe we don’t know do we think negotiating through the media like that has ever worked no also I’ll I’ll stall them out just a little bit because we don’t know if they did

That right so like if Monty McNair had a conversation with Washington a month ago and they and Washington was like yeah Monty we W two first first round picks so and they were like we’re not doing that and Shams talks to manty like what were they offering what were they asking

Two first round picks sham says oh Washington’s asking for two first round picks they didn’t put that in the media so the so the flip the flip side of that is um yeah your good friend Flip Flip Side find a way to bring it back at the

Ners win the Super Bowl oh very that’ be magical even if I have to just like I don’t know I’ll figure it out okay um the F the flip side of that is you’re Chris Haynes and you’re just talking to me guy in the king front office won’t

Won’t say a name uh or we won’t use the Kings we use the Wizards I’m I’m guy in the Wizards front office you’re Chris Haynes um you guys looking to guys looking to move you know Kyle kosma yeah you know if someone offers us a couple first round picks we do it and

Then all of a sudden that’s that’s that’s how it get that there it is right you just told a you just told an NBA Insider that you’re looking for a first you know a couple of first- round picks for Kyle Kosar or Alex Caruso or whoever that’s how that stuff could get filtered

Out there it doesn’t have to be a conversation between general managers it could be a conversation between so sometimes they do use these the Chris Haynes and the Shams to try and get their asking price out or get a a heat check so to speak about what if we put

This out there will people be interested W is notorious for that yeah so that does happen but we don’t know we don’t know that happened this time so extra I I did think about this extra white chocolate is asking KD you laughing at his name it’s extra white chocolate saying

His name was just I what you mean he’s in here all the time but it’s saying it today isn’t that your coffee drink no that’s uh extra shot of white chocolate oh extra shot of my I don’t get that anymore though that’s right you’ve been you’ve been on

Them healthy at allo I don’t feel like you ever really did that a lot well that’s where I would get that dream well I know but you didn’t it’s not like you walked in every day with a Starbucks cup I don’t think KD was negotiating through

The media I think that was an owner that was willing to do anything to make a splash specifically I think that was a new owner willing to do anything to make a splash I don’t think that was really negotiating through the media it’s just an opinion though I

Don’t uh we’ll come back like I said we vibing out you want to Vibe with us you could do that many ways you can you could jump into the chatty house twitch.tv/ ESPN 1320 like a man extra white chocolate did or you can get over there on youtube.com ESPN 1320 you can

Hit us on the phone lines 916 99320 we got Kings basketball to talk about hourglasses being posted on Twitter and uh a frequent conversation over the last couple of days is is this 65 game rule going to do more harm than good uh we’ll talk about that is the Casey r

Along here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 something just on to me guess Bill Bellamy isn’t joining us is he Heen today today because we didn’t do it tomorrow because of the game we can’t do it Friday and we are 0 for a [ __ ] lifetime man that’s crazy

Sherylyn bore what up though ah hey where sheryn bore been I was thinking about her over the weekend she been all over the world to be honest with not put a business out there but know matter of fact matter of fact I yeah I ain’t even gonna put the

Business out there you know what I’m saying I don’t know who’s watching or nothing like that but all right I know where you at I know where you at yeah yeah that’s cryptic yeah I’ll be out there beware I I wasn’t G to say nothing she said she coming to

Cali okay all right like here I don’t think she comeing here oh I she’ll be down south but oh funny cool I’m with it uh I think it’s well zabbo um Sky River has done a phenomenal job of enclosing that patio area so it’s

Not going to be cold if it does rain you ain’t going to have to worry about it but from the looks of all the weather reports it’s definitely raining like till Wednesday but as long as it’s gone by Thursday we could as long as it don’t rain while I’m

Driving to Sky River I don’t care a there’s that too don’t rain next Saturday on our brunch either that’s what I’m saying long as it’s done shout out to Drew down I don’t know if he’s in the in the in the chat but he liked the Tweet so back of the year Pimp

Pon no you didn’t no you didn’t and no he didn’t kawh Leonard played 64 games and 72 games in his Defensive Player of the Year Seasons what’s up a little you’re such a [Laughter] jackass what’s up a little bro I don’t know nothing about what he talking about

If he was a wrestler they’d call him a mark for [Laughter] himself uh will Z is GNA join us later on in the show and our man James ham going to join us here as he does every single Monday Wednesday and Friday speaking of Friday make your plans to be

With us Sky River Casino 32 Bru Street this Friday uh 12 o’clock live show starts we hope you could come through hang out have some drinks have some food uh and watch some hoop with us Kings and the Pacers beginning at 4:30 Kings Pacers the new hot rivalry in the NBA

And so we’ll have the opportunity to um that humidor is about to open oh yeah that’s cigar whiskey Lounge that we’ve been talking about for like six months it’s ready they’re going to take us through a quick tour right after I think maybe not right after the show was

Over but at some point they’re going to take us through a quick tour yeah that joint gonna be ready yeah and when that joint is ready come on man these watch parties these watch parties these live shows they gonna take on a whole different a whole different vibe because

Hey we’ll be at 32 brw street from from 12:00 to 4: yeah we’ll be over over at the humidor from 4:00 to 7: if you want to come hang out yeah you could you could like you said go to the humor you stay in 32 brw watch uh the game with

DLo and you can see how he reacts during these games it’s a sight to be seeing he be calling people names it’s crazy that’s cat that’s that’s not entirely true that’s not entirely accurate I don’t call them what you call them Booker I mean book get up bro I I only

Make like little smartass remarks when you and I are watching a game together in the studio like we will be today uh but it’s never disrespectful like when Trey when Trey when uh Trey ly did his little oh yeah I was like hey what the

Hell is that Jordan in 94 well he didn’t play 94 but Jordan in 96 997 was a bucket and then it’s fine it’s like that’s that’s what we’re doing today huh all right that’s the extent what do you say when you’re watching Devon Booker play basketball some it

Just depends on what he’s doing too short what do you what do you say oh he be crying I be saying the same thing about Luca sometimes what do you say yeah what do you say we don’t have to dump that one either just stay just

Stop crying I don’t think that’s all you say come on Kenny stop crying too short rolling over in his grave right now unbelievable won’t even say it Tyler that’s exactly what I said call him a crybaby that’s that’s what he yep that’s what he says he calls him a

Crybaby he calls him a crybaby I mean he’s not wrong when he says that but okay um but you don’t say that about Tyrese and Pascal seak and that’s H we’ll be watching Friday uh at 32 bruise street so come through man we’d love to see you

Hey did you catch the end of the Insiders I didn’t I was uh they were talking about uh potential trade okay because of the story that came out this morning this is my favorite show though yeah shout out to the Insiders uh about Kyle kosma his asking

Price um I think James laid out a scenario of a trade where basically you get Kyle kosma and you trade back lyes and herder that’s what I remember ask me how you felt about that me how I felt about that and getting kma you know and being able

To you know keep one of your starters and Harrison Barnes or whatever that’s unbelievably appealing but I said just my gut re I haven’t didn’t have a chance to work through it I said I’d rather give up Barnes than ly with you and I probably really wouldn’t

Wouldn’t give up herder at all because then who’s playing the two but just in that aspect Barnes and L and my my thought was I I don’t trust Harrison Barnes not to just disappear I don’t think that he’s a bad player I don’t think that if you put

Him on the bench you enhance your bench in theory because of the the skilled player that he is but I just don’t know if he gonna show up I have no clue yeah and that was my thought I’m with you yeah I’m I’m I’m I’m with you um if if

You have to there’s no scenario where you have to in a Kyle kosma scenario where you have to move on from both of those guys it’s one or the other um I’d rather it be Harrison Barnes for a couple of different reasons including the one Bobby marks laid out which I had

Never which I had never thought of before what what did Bobby say I heard the Kevin herder the Malik monk Insurance yeah the Malik monk insurance so to speak um but I’m also I’m so just I just want to be clear you’re comfortable Harrison and Trey

L what having them on the team no or or trading them no and that’s where I was just going by their the trade they laid out tell James fall back maybe James doesn’t know Trey LS isn’t tradable wasn’t that the con didn’t didn’t we talk about that he was part of

The Court the court he’s core core I was uh I I’m not crazy on trading herder and and and I know you’re getting kozma back I like cools you got to give up something at some point but I don’t know man I’m not I’m not crazy about giving

Up Kyle or Kyle herder Kevin herder right now I want to give up Kyle herder either um let’s get Jeremy in here 91699 1320 what’s up Jeremy what’s going on fellas how you doing man it’s so cold okay look what you look what you started well I mean you know you know I

Have a hard time trash talking the Lions fans in Detroit they’re they’re fine fine I did too man the Lions I love the Lions man at one point I was almost like if the Lions take us then at least the lions got you know lost the Lions but uh yeah

I don’t think uh I don’t think we should do Kevin herder and uh I don’t know man I think I think the Kings need just need a couple more games and then uh keep rolling I think kings are good right now what do you guys think it’s interesting that’s interesting Jeremy I appreciate

You so so we’re we’re you know four games later we’re more comfortable standing Pat now uh I I definitely understand that because because what that tells me is we’re we’re in on this like we we believe that of the LA this is what’s funny about this we’re talking eight

Games a four game losing streak and a four- game winning streak we’re all in on this four game winning streak I’m I’m pretty far in on it like I I I think this team kozma changes things though kozma is the one guy that i’ I’d be willing to

Make some moves for he’s one of those guys I’m talking about where I think he can help take you to another level kma’s a deal where I don’t see a realistic scenario where you get worse like again referencing our our buddy Bobby marks and and what he wrote

In the video he posted about the Kings last night um which was really just a video version of the article he wrote a couple of days ago but you don’t want to risk making a a trade that you know sends you from fifth to 9th right that was his that was his

Thing and I don’t see a scenario how acquiring Kyle kosma can send you from 5ifth to nine there is a caveat to that though I don’t think you can include Trey lyes in that deal I have a lot of love and respect for this dude but you

Probably have to include Davon in that um Trey has shown even through his slowest moments he’s extremely important to this team and he has a skill set that the Kings covet maybe he doesn’t do it as as high of a level as Kyle kosma can

Do but he does do it and you want two players who can do that and not one and that’s been the plus with Harrison Barnes play Lately is that’s what you’ve been looking for two guys who could stretch the floor two guys who could rebound guys who can do multiple things

On the floor while domas is doing what he does inside and now you’ve got two guys that can do it for a chunk of the Season it felt like well you just got Trey L whenever he comes off the bench and so I don’t think you can include him

Yeah I feel the same way one of the the arguments for keeping Harrison Barnes and being okay with that that tradeit is har would go to the bench and it would I I guess in theory it would give them more give him more opportunities with

That second unit uh to be a scorer to be a little bit more of a focal point as opposed to being the fifth option in the starting unit and in theory like I said it sounds great I just don’t I don’t know how Harrison would handle going coming off

The bench you know would he be too passive would he um you know be a little LAX of days ago it’s not anything to do with his talent I think he’s talented enough to do a lot of the stuff that we’ve seen him do as of late it’s just

Where his mindset is going to be where his level of aggression is going to be and I I just don’t I just don’t trust that I’m not saying it can’t happen I’m not even saying he’s not capable I’m saying I I got to have something I can

Rely on and know all right I know he’s going to give me this every single night and I I don’t have that with Harris I don’t know what I’m getting from him is there any like what stretch of what what would the stretch of games have to be before you believe

That all right I think I think har 20 20 25 games and I think the furthest we can get is seven before the trade I think there’s three more games before the trade deadline right about right well no there’s Wednesday Friday and then there’s got to be there’s a Detroit game

There’s a Detroit game so there’s got to be four because I’m pretty pretty sure they play every other day don’t they we I feel like we’re missing one um Chicago Cleveland something like that well yeah they got four games left in the road trip the there’s a home game before the

Trade deadline so there’s five games yeah so there’s there’s yeah oh Pacers and Bulls is a back toback so yeah you’re right there’s Bulls and Cleveland so there’s Miami tonight Pacers Bulls that’s the Friday Saturday then you’ve got uh Cleveland on Monday and then you’ve got the uh Pistons game that you

Were talking about out there so you have and that’s the day before the trade deadline so the furthest you could get is like eight yeah that’s it’s not 20 but what if he’s averaging 20 points per game o o over that eight game stretch if if it’s if if it’s kma I I

I’ll make a deal for kma I’ll make a deal for kma okay yeah all right I don’t hate it I don’t hate it I’m just asking trying to gauge where we are on our happy Harrison you know barometer here and this all kind of fits going into Thursday’s deadline to Harrison’s credit

Because I’m not just looking to ship him out of here for just to ship him out of here there’s like realistically like two players I I do it for Jeremy Grant and Kyle kosman other than that I’m not doing it for any you know ancillary piece you know Harrison’s not awful or

Anything close to that like he’s he’s fine if I had to choose if I had to make a pick I feel like we’re going to see more of what we’ve seen in recent weeks with Harrison than we did at the beginning of the season to close out the

Season right I think we’ll get more of that Harrison so because of that if I’m not getting one of those two guys I’m I’m perfectly fine having harrrison here but if I have an opportunity to get K Kos or Jeremy Grant that’s something I

Can’t pass up on I feel so I’m I’m gonna make that move but if it doesn’t come to fruition I think I think Harrison’s gonna be okay here 91699 1320 SK Stefan in here Steph what’s good baby hey man what’s good boys how you doing man good big dog

All right quick question for you man nice and nice and easy and simple so um I noticed at that that this might be a dumb question but I’m a Noob so please please EXC a noob it cracks me up let me tell ree you’re a

Noob I did say noob man so I mean um um why isn’t it possible for basketball players to restructure the contract like like they do in football so if like Aaron Rogers wants to change teams I I’ve noticed it to where you know Tom Brady will restructure a contract to

Make room for other players because you know he’s really nice and you know he’s kind and he makes a kajillion dollars every freaking day yeah so um why is it that NBA players cannot restructure their contracts like they can in the NFL that is my question easy work I

Appreciate you I’m beginning to think his name was Stephen and that’s Stan so we’re Stephen um it’s easy NFL and think you know what I mean by this I think Stephen you’ll know what I mean by this and everyone else will NFL contracts aren’t real right they’re they’re

They’re as real as the guarantee dollars and that’s it they’re not what shefa reports what those guys report that’s not real money um NBA contracts are and no NBA player would willingly give up a guaranteed contract for the ability to renegotiate and like help a team that’s that’s the

NBA NBA players union fought for fully guaranteed contracts that’s what they are that will never ever ever ever change right and that’s that’s in the the CBA they can’t once the deal’s done the deal’s done you can’t renegotiated it yeah um yeah that’s that’s just what it feels like it makes things simpler

Makes it easier for both sides for the team and guarantees like fully guaranteed yeah I think so I also think isn’t there I think with the restructuring in the NFL though I think you I don’t know if you can do that to a certain point of their

Contract and I think you can only I maybe you can’t only do it once it feels like you can only do it once oh no that’s not true it’s all based on your contract it’s not like a um like I’m seeing a j saying bring back the amnesty Clause it’s not like a

Onetime thing that you can use it’s really just based on the structure of of your contract right so like because we talked about maybe you could help out but when I talked about one Chase young I was like oh man maybe you can cut KD or whatever and like when they

Restructured their contract got close to guarantee as you can get like you can’t really cut them or it wouldn’t benefit you to cut them saving money or anything like that right and I don’t think you can re you can but I I don’t know if you can restructure them again

Already just done that yeah you’re you’re right I probably approached that wrong you can restructure it there’s probably no point in doing it because that’s probably would these contracts are you know we’re talking they’ll tell you it’s five years and we talk about this all the time if you hear a

Five-year contract in reality it’s probably three because after that is when you can cut a player like there’s probably two dead years like we talked about this with with with Dak the other day Dak this isn’t dak’s final year year on his contract it’s the final real year

On his contract the last two years on it are dead with essentially no money on it and no one no one’s that’s that’s just GNA die like that doesn’t benefit everybody but they know that and it soups up the value that you can put out there and report and that benefits the

Dallas Cowboys it benefits the NFL it benefits Dak Prescott’s agent and that’s why they report those numbers the way that they do um but you can probably renegotiate once you probably renegotiate once or restructure once because after that there’s nothing left to restructure if you convert the

Remaining like cuz this is what happens a lot you’ll hear and I don’t know what the numbers are this is definitely Kyle matson’s bag as you you’ll hear um the rest of George KD’s guaranteed money was converted into a salary uh bonus or a roster or something like that now all of

A sudden you have George KD with two years he gets all of that money up front and now in in the second year you could be cut you could be cut yeah and no NBA player is going to go yeah give me that there’s there’s no there’s no athlete that’s paying

Attention that’s gonna give him football players aren’t paying attention and that’s that’s facts because if you look around there’s one sports League that has that and it’s the richest one in America because baseball baseball will pay you for 20 years at at at $800 million yeah and not

Blink not think twice NBA you know we’re approaching you know the countdown is on to the first hundred million per year player the countdown is on for that and here’s you know here’s here’s Lamar Jackson fighting for you know a guaranteed contract and the Atlanta freaking Falcons telling them no we’re

Not interested in Lamar Jackson the Washington commanders publicly saying no we’re good with Tyler heni or whoever the hell was their quarterback to start the season come on man that’s the league that’s the league and it’s those players yeah I’m with you I’m with you I and they had an opportunity to change

It and they number one half of them didn’t even vote hey good luck guys just six more years before this collective bargaining agreement ends six more years guys hang in there and these and these guys the the owners and the the league is just raking in more deals more

Endorsement deals TV deals just raking in the D hey salute salute to the Buffalo Bills because the way that this season I did wonder did they keep Demar around so brother can be taken care of cuz he ain’t got no guaranteed contract yeah he ain’t got nothing gonna

Take care of him for the next you know handful of years he ain’t been in the league that long either yeah hey and if that’s what they did like salute you know we we kept wait hey it’s going to be a great moment when he returned had

To wait like he didn’t even return it home I was like oh they’re waiting till they you know play their first home game no they weren’t just waiting the first time I uh saw Demar Hamlin this year no lie I mean I’m he played for sure but

First time I saw him was when they did the fake punt now that was a very prominent dear Hamlin play I said oh dear Hamlin huh was the one thing that made me think yeah maybe they will fire maybe Kenny was right maybe they will get R looks like they’ll hold on to

Him though he’ll get another shot good for him did you see your boy did you see your boy Jerry he can’t help himself no Jerry was asked about belich and I guess belich is I don’t I don’t know where or when but I guess belich has put over Stephen and Jerry Jones and

The way that they do business and you know Jerry said well you know I I I could absolutely you know we’d work fine together like he’s greatest coach and blah blah blah blah blah you know I can definitely see a time where where him and I are working

Together you know and and we all know this you put the microphone in front of Jerry he gonna say something like you said he can’t help him that’s the cold part for Mike McCarthy like he can’t quit no he’s just gota he’s gotta just keep getting paid and just let his owner

He he’s like uh your boy with quarterbacks uh the the Raider Gruden oh Gruden Gruden ain’t never met a quarterback he didn’t like except for Derek Carr he’ll flirt with all of them publicly that’s Jerry with coaches yeah he G he gonna flirt with him he was

Stuck with Derek Carr that’s why the whole Saints have brought in John Gruden to help Derek Carr Derek Carr didn’t ask for that like bro you didn’t even love me When I was Your quarterback get out of my face I don’t like you Shack ass I did not ask you to be

Here uh speaking of I didn’t ask you to be here I know you was busy this morning you was helping the young people yeah shout out to my people over at Valley High you know had a career day over there and they’re they’re asking me uh questions about Odyssey and they said is

It a what’s the work environment like well well what’ you what’ you tell them I said I like my job that’s good it’s a good way of next question yeah was Darin hammock career day oh that was no call for I’m sorry oh no by the way I’m just joking the work

Environment is great here I love oh yeah it’s something love it’s something it’s a good time here I I walked out yesterday and there was a particular well I won’t say that on the oh God never mind Jen might be listening never mind shout out

Jen Shout Out J well the it’s not over yet so it’s not over till one so she’s not listen still at Valley High yeah okay hey guys check out one of our radio stations this was Kenny carway the guy who was here earlier yeah so there was these girls

Talking about guys in baseball pants that’s that’s what they were talking what oh man I walked out of the studio and I saw a bunch of pictures of football players on the screen and oh I’d love to see him in baseball pants all right I’m just gonna just comeing to get

Just gonna go grab my green juice and my orange come on back in man oh no yeah it’s well unique work environment but again was Darvin ham there did you give Darin ham hey come join us probably there now he probably hadn’t got there yet it could be I mean the flight from

Atlanta hadn’t got in yet boy well he but he definitely need to go two hams and a Kyle I don’t I don’t know what we would do but we could add Darin ham to The Insider somehow two ham I don’t know two hams is the way to go but

That could get a little dicey in the Urban Dictionary but yeah he gonna be looking that man posted an hourglass that’s cold man LeBron hey LeBron cold for that man come on man LeBron don’t miss at the trade deadline LeBron said I’m putting all you

Hoes on notice LeBron is cold he is a cold piece of work for that that man posted an hourglass and just left just just posted it and cut after having something to say in the post game that was cryptic like damn I know this is what

People hate about LeBron this is what I love about LeBron James if Draymond Green is the most delusional athlete in the history of professional sports that guy they didn’t fact checked him by the way already LeBron James is the most passive aggressive athlete in the history of professional what he say like

You know is there anything you got to say to your teammates in this I ain’t got I ain’t got nothing I ain’t gotta say nothing to my teammates I ain’t gotta say nothing to my teammates they already know I ain’t gotta say nothing to my teammates nothing wow

Wow I love this d d he a wild boy and then and then the job wasn’t done so he he tweet get The Hourglass come on man it’s not just the regular hourglass either it’s times up hourglass there’s two emojis you can pick with The Hourglass one is the sand

Is starting to hit the bottom and there’s another one where the time is up he picked the time is up for a reason damn like Sands Through The Hour Glass oh what you know about that do what you know about that I actually don’t know much about that I’m I’m more of a

Younger wrest are the days of our lives that was the show my uh my mom and excuse me my my grandma and my sister used to watch my sister used to love Days of Our Lives I hadn’t seen shout out to my sister I hadn’t seen young and wrestless in years now

But love that show here’s we could On Any Given Night Beat in n and then On Any Given night we get our ass kicked by that’s just the what’s our record one one game under 500 what we’ve seen under 500 one game under 500 yeah 2425 that’s we

Are LeBron James if you’re a reporter do you ask him about The Hourglass Emoji tweet the next time you see him oh Dave McMan will ask him yeah Dave MCM Dave McMan is not scared Dave mcm’s like I got a sister on my arm I got this i got this you imagine

LeBron answers yeah I’m tired of Darin ham yo imagine that yo like I’m 40 years old I don’t got time for this anymore I’m tired of this guy LeBron LeBron LeBron he’ll do something like I’m try it says what it says hey you’re right though that’s what

He do he not gonna say but he gonna let us just go with you says what it says what does it mean to you well it means that Darin Ham’s on the clock I’m I Really Wanna I really want to find oh no that ain’t it I was trying to find

A clip of of him uh I I retweeted it oh you did yeah yeah well I was like bro bro I said Bron is wild I saw that I said come on man what’s this guy doing oh okay I hold on let me scroll past all these uh sure that’s that’s what we’re

Oblig that’s what we’re contractually told to do is to go to break right now this good producing by Jesse right there there is I’m just SC I got the LeBron clip here we’ll run that when uh dowlo and Casey return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN

1320 you know what the best part about that is that man knew their record LeBron knows it LeBron knows everyone’s record everyone’s stats LeBron didn’t need it he just wanted someone to say it out loud LeBron LeBron can go play byplay from a game seven years ago but

He don’t know the record yeah you imagine they repeat the record and LeBron’s like you hear that Darin 24 and 25 I hope everybody heard that hope everybody heard that 24 and 25 who’s more passive aggressive LeBron or durag dearon I’m going LeBron I don’t think durag dearon was passive aggressive he

Just wasn’t interested in talking that dag was cold for leave me alone you think Dame cries tonight nah I thought Kendra did a good job with this I mean not Kendra um Malika uh that’s Malika right yeah I thought she did a good job with this interview I I I thought it was

Good and I don’t think Dame lied to her you see KD saying he didn’t want like a tribute video or anything from the Nets no just because he feel like he never connected no that’s how it needs to be we give out too many tribute videos now yeah you would say that Jesse

Pierce that’s probably the worst tribute of all time what Isaiah wait who was it was it Isaiah the Paul Pius one because Paul Pius you got a tribute but they got smoked by the cows like 40 and then they did it off the game yeah who was he mad about it was

Isaah right I think it was Isaiah he was mad that I they didn’t he didn’t want the the Celtics to run a tribute video to Isaiah because it was his night oh yeah yeah because he was back with the c your boy such a hoe dude come on man say it just [Applause]

AOW the same so that was uh that wasn’t a that wasn’t his return to Boston uh Paul Piers that was his like Jersey it was his retirement like Jersey retirement or whatever cuz he was sitting courts so that yeah that’s why it was his but that but that’s what we

Were talking about we he didn’t want the tribute video for Isaiah Thomas on his night makes sense you want you want you on night and you know what I love most about LeBron James is he hates Paul Pierce like that’s real you think that’s real oh oh very that’s Bret Hart Shawn

Michaels like 97 heat like that’s legit that’s he told Nike don’t give anyone on uh the Brooklyn Nets and then the Washington Wizards everywhere Paul Pierce went he’s like that no one on that team can wear my shoe like they can they can go buy them but don’t send them

Don’t send them my shoe Paul Pierce ruined it for everybody they say he made it better he sent LeBron to Miami he shoot hated that dude man that is so funny what uh what what Candace say I’ve I’ve unfortunately started to tune her she actually had no Kings on her list

Believe It or Not shocking Jamal didn’t either so I I we got this uh message here on on YouTube about youtube.com YouTube TV what is it youtube.com ESPN 1320 it’s twitch.tv 1320 uh says not surprised by Candace Parker’s All-Star selections but damn Jamal Crawford uh I didn’t know

Like I started to tune some of those people out and I guess Candace and Jamal didn’t have any Kings on their All-Star uh reserves predictions but JJ and his crew had domas and dearen on their All-Star selections I did see that I did see that you see you see um you know

What’s funny I I should just text Candace hey Candace it’s uh Dam and remember hey why do you hate Sacramento so much I like to talk to Candace be like what’s going on here I do I still have it you know you know we got love

For you well yeah we got I well I can’t speak for anybody else I got love for I don’t have no problem with Candace Parker I’m just so curious about her hate for Sacramento like what’s going on here what’s going on what’s up with the sh Candace when was the last time I

Because I don’t think I’ve ever asked her to be on ity show but did you did you see that might not be her I haven’t text her since 2012 that might not be her number anymore only one way to find out how do you do that Candace what’s going on this is Damen

Barley huh I’d have to put a parenthesis in there yeah probably oh okay what’s up oh okay okay yeah okay I guess that’s a way to do it yeah well hey what’s up what’s good I got this I got the number one show in Sacramento Northern California Northern California and uh

You know I was just wondering know you want to come on and talk you know the people want to hear from you they want to hear about what you got to say about this All-Star situation then when she gets on here then you why do you hate Sacramento yeah yeah yeah we bum

Rusher okay but see you but the crazy thing about it man this is this is crazy this is ridiculous and I I try not to do this because um I just said I would stop like people they get their they get their acknowledgements and all this other

Stuff like all right like I may disagree whatever but I don’t want to crap all over somebody getting acknowledged and getting you know getting their flowers in some form or fashion but I don’t believe Rudy Gober has any business being on the allstar team and they had two

People vote put him on there on the little TNT thing R Gober has no business being on the allar team how you can justify putting him over sabonis it’s my thoughts as well all right that’s sent oh I L I literally wrote what we just said out loud this

What I put in the text you do like a little round table where we get Candace Parker Hollinger and then Kevin o Condor or something get them all oh that’ be tremendous so so here it is so Candace Candace’s reserves were Steph Ant-Man Kawai Paul George Devon Booker Anthony

Davis and Rudy goair come on so we knew that we knew that was possible we know we that that’s really possible I feel like she left someone out oh I know what it is we I I always figured one of one of them would make it yeah yeah when she

Left Fox off so she she go she went goar and Paul George and we that’s where I think one of the biggest discrepancies is gonna be Jamal goes even crazier oh boy and you know we love Jamal Crawford shout out to Seattle Rotary shout out Michigan go Blue I don’t know why but

But he goes Curry Ant-Man Kawai Paul Devin Chad homr and Rudy go Dum that’s dumb what yes no that’s ridiculous that is one of the most ridiculous reserves list I’ve ever seen so not with reserves obviously these people have votes right for the starters yeah I would assume so they’re media people have

Votes I mean that’s ass a nine Jamal Crawford that’s about as ridiculous as I’ve ever seen home is not an allar two non Allstars getting in there these guys are not allar well Rudy’s the one I’m worried about Rudy not Rudy Rudy does not deserve to be on allar I’m not

Arguing with you I don’t think jiren Jackson Jr did either I know I I was talking about Rudy yesterday I understand but just want to be perfectly clear he has no business being on an All-Star team n and then Vince Carter put uh uh dear

On there and uh what’s the other guys is a King’s legend Adam leco leco leco put on there everybody has Paul George and Kawai on there none of them had sabonis on there so none of them has sabonis that’s interesting um everyone has so it goes to what I think what we were

Talking about yesterday one of them is getting left off and I think it’s domas I think so too because I think if there’s that much of a consensus especially and I think a lot of people feel the way that you feel the Clippers are are they’re they’re it right now and you have

Two you you you when when you use a descriptor for kland you can use the term All-Star regardless of the year you have two Allstars on your team in Paul George you have two all NBA guys uh on your team in terms of Paul George and

And and and kawh Leonard I feel like both of those guys are getting in and regardless of what else you do um I think that’s where domas gets left off yeah that would and that would suck again we said this yesterday and I’ll repeat there’s been some there some

Strange movement in the Eastern Conference we can talk about later but if dearen and damont sabonis don’t make the All-Star team they’ll be the only team in the top six of each conference that doesn’t have an Allstar and and and they’ll be one team below them that has two allars and a

Team that’s 20 and 24 that will have an All-Star and people talk about the argument for um for Rudy Gober on there would be oh they’re the you know number one team in the west and they have the number one defense in basketball and he anchors the

Defense they don’t play no defense they got the number one defense in a league that doesn’t play defense it’s not like he’s they’re out here locking up and keeping teams under 100 like they give up 107 points a night like they’re not that this year that

Argument carries no way with me for Rudy Gober they’re not they’re not this Defensive Juggernaut whole league don’t play defense Boston is top five in defense they give up 111 points a night they’re fifth it’s awful I have a question that’s going to sound like shade let’s hear it it’s not

It’s just a question I was watching last night and I saw Steph get that that four-point play and he hits the two three four all right Steph I see you I think about Stephan I think I brought this up before they say it’s the Love of the Game and his excitement and exuberance

And all of that stuff and the celebrations and the mocking of Dylan Brooks and the night night and all of that is there another player in the league with a the team four to five games under 500 that could do that no like if Dame was on I if if he had never

If he was on the 14 and 33 Trailblazers could he do that no now Dame doesn’t have the championship Equity that Steph Curry has but I’m just curious I feel like Steph is one of one with players who are allowed to get away with that in

The league and no one bats an eye I’m like they love it they eat it up yeah I’m asking no the the one that was crazy was when he uh crossed up Dylan Brooks earlier in the season yeah that was and all he was doing after that I was like

Come on bro now they were a winning team at the time they were like seven and one or seven- two or something like that but that was excessive like that he out here that Dylan Brooks would probably be well within his rights to do what he did to

LeBron next time that’s the funny thing he out here punching LeBron James in the face and just letting Steph Curry getting away with humiliating yeah I don’t get that bro you’re that is misdirected anger I don’t get it I love watching Steph I just I’m I

Sometimes I shake my head like man are they 73 and nine right now and then and then not Steph but Warrior fans want to cry when people take shots at Steph or they they enjoy the Warriors oh look at what this guy why would you want this

Guy to look and all this other stuff because he be hopping around terrorizing the league making fun of people the the whole time through also why the hell do I care if Steph Curry loses what you talk about why would you want this guy to lose sir I don’t care

If that man wins or loses I live in Sacramento I definitely want him to lose why the hell would I care I care I would definitely want him to lose we talking about why would you want this man to lose because he played for the Warriors

Dumy get out of here that’s why sha asses and I like Steph I don’t want Steph to lose I want the Warriors to lose there’s a difference yeah uh here is uh the king the king of The Hourglass LeBron staying on the road for the next couple games big match up

Against Boston big match up against the Knicks what would your message be to your teammate and what can you do yourself you know to get that get pick back on the winning side of things I don’t have any message for my teammates just go out and do your job

Man I’m not yet appreciate it way to cut me off cuz I wasy hey who was that yeah yeah yeah yeah W Boston big match up against the Knicks what your message he sick of the question we’re five seconds in he is just sick of this question pause it he’s looking he’s like

All right he’s asking me about my teammates how can I shade Dar ham with this answer what can you do yourself you know to get get back on The Winning Side I don’t have any message for my teammates just go out and do your job I

Mean I’m not yeah appreciate it cut me off because I was about oh I want to know what he said after that though little way way to cut me off because I was about to bust somebody’s ass yo LeBron is LeBron LeBron is funny man yeah that’s a wild boy man my man

Posted that’s a wild boy my man posted his hourglass Jesse Jesse talked about it uh when we were talking about before the show he’s like hey man I respect it he got the he got the ability to do it he uses that ability how do you feel

About LeBron doing this type of stuff I don’t like it um yeah it’s not my favorite character admittedly it makes me laugh right like it and I I thought what Steph did to Dylan Brooks was too much but I can’t act like I didn’t Shuckle at it um it’s

Not my favorite LeBron James character trait but I feel like LeBron lives in a in a space where he doesn’t probably have any problem doing this type of stuff because he probably feels like it’s all on me anyway like you guys don’t understand the level of scrutiny and

And the the the pressure that I have to win so Darin ham if you’re not doing your job you got to go because yeah there will be certain people who blame Darvin ham but the majority of the people are going to say LeBron didn’t

Get it done so if it’s all on me if you gonna blame me regardless I might as well voice my opinion or make my decisions you gonna blame me anyway it’s the same thing we talked about um I think it was Luca or somebody like that the other day you gonna blame me

Regardless so I might as well go ahead and pick and choose who I want to be here and do all this be le GM and all this other stuff I’m GNA get the I’m gonna get the credit and I’m gonna get the blame anyway legim I’m watching I’m I’m I’m watching

The the Legends drop uh oh they got they got a new joint yeah they got the they got the they got the the the LeBron joint oh snap they got the LeBron one I don’t think I well they he goes and punches me in the nose

LeBron says and it’s only a flagrant one question that’s a fair question he didn’t hit you in the no no my nose was bleeding the f are you talking about oh we got play this during the break we got oh that’s all that’s I oh they didn’t

They didn’t have the they didn’t have the part that we wanted the most on Legend the one where he turned back around and he looked like he was they didn’t have that oh come on they had the initial interaction with the official and that

Was it we can put these up on the screen because they’re they edit the words true true we won’t play any audio that’s what I’m saying that’s I he you could just see the you could see the uh Dylan Brooks Dylan Brooks is the next candidate for

Therapy and I therapy NBA therapy he doing a lot like like I saw I saw what C like they show what caused Vanderbilt to react the way that he did what did Vanderbilt do I didn’t even see what happened so so Vanderbilt kind of like

Swiped at the back of his head after he did that but this was before this was this was an entirely different play and vanderbel said to the official yo he keeps pushing me and Dylan called him out his name and it’s actually I think Jared Vanderbilt said this publicly I was like

He called he he he called me something you don’t say on on the court and he his reaction was dumb though his reaction was like I’m GNA react but I can’t really react yeah CV says Dylan Brooks called him a cat that’s about about that’s about that be all over the place on

Legends it’s on here no I’m saying no I’m saying every video they oh oh yeah that’s fact every yeah yeah they they they th they throw that word around a lot they throw that word around a lot um see I don’t know if Dylan gonna

Be in in therapy I just think he gonna be in a fight like it feels like Draymond would do things and it would be like why did you just do that that guy’s not bothering anybody why did you slap nerkin up like that why are you choking out Rudy gobear why are you

Defending his teammates there’s something wrong with you you need to go to therapy Dylan’s just going to be in fights but you know how this is though they’re going to frame this as an emotional issue for Dylan Brooks that he has to get under control it’s going to

Be just as phony as what they did with Draymond Green Draymond Green I don’t I’d argue I I tend to agree with you I don’t think Draymond Green needed therapy he needed his ass kick because he approaches people in an atmosphere that is very safe for him what’s

Everybody say about oh he is the nicest guy he’s a family man we’re gonna have lunch together they all say the same thing about the dude and then he goes out and punches people and chokes people because he’s in a safe environment where Yousef nerkish what’s Yousef nerkish

Gonna do get up and punch him back right what’s Rudy goar gonna do Rudy goar said hey Rudy goar got fined like $100,000 or whatever no reason he’s like I ain’t even look hey I’m just letting y’all know I am not touching this man my hands my hands are clean

I’m Shawn Michaels I swear to God my hands are clean on this one man I saw a clip uh last night of Shawn Michaels like it was a Survivor Series match and he super kicked somebody and then like pinned him and eliminated the guy then Sean goes over

To Triple H to them he’s like hey who was that that’s funny I don’t know what that is said who was that guy who who was him I don’t you ever see the clip where Shawn Michaels is just walking down the hallway super kicking everybody no oh

That’s one of my favorites it’s like sea had like gone crazy goes hey hey you what’s your name Stan Stan boom Super Kicks him I just super kicked Stan didn’t he super kick the cafeteria Chef too walking down there oh yeah yeah that was terrific that was so good they even

Insinuated once that he super kicked the little girl oh no oh Yeah the little girl was it’s when like Shawn had like left or whatever and they do this stupid skit where Hunter goes to a cafeteria and Shawn is working in the cafeteria and this little girl is being super mean to Shawn and he like snaps

And it goes off camera and you just hear a and strong insinuation that he just super kicked oh no you got to watch it Stan I kick oh no oh I had uh who worked this in just for a minute I had an extensive conversation with our friend at WCW about

How did you see any of the post Royal Rumble press conference so I saw I saw quotes some quotes that Cody I saw him say something yeah so I’m talking more specifically about Hunter no so Hunter is like hun like Mike Brown like after every major show

Hunter goes and and speaks so this was the first show following the Vince McMahon um everything the lawsuit and and and the resignation termination whatever whatever wording they’re using for that and he kind of dropped the ball on the message like he was asked about the lawsuit and obviously for those that

Don’t know this this his father-in-law right he’s married to Vince McMahon’s daughter and he just said look I haven’t I haven’t read the lawsuit in its entirety I’ve been briefed on it um I just we can’t focus on that right now we just had an amazing week and I chose I’m

Choosing to focus on that we welcomed The Rock to the TKO board and and obviously we just had this tremendously successful night at the Royal Rumble and he was eviscerated for that by mostly like wrestling media like I don’t know like media Outlets were covering this but like wrestling media were critical

Like how are you not going to say anything and I felt it was so shortsighted because he is the figurehead right now of a company in the middle of a lawsuit and every lawyer will tell you he can’t say anything now maybe he should have worded it more into the vein

Of guys you have to understand I can’t speak on that right now because of the legal ramifications of it there’s a lot you know we can address down the road but there’s nothing we can say now maybe he should have done that and maybe he shouldn’t have gone with the we’ve had a

Really positive week uh in welcoming the rock and all of that stuff but I think that because the criticism for him has just been like like flooding and I thought it was a bit you guys are you guys are so you’re working yourself into a shoot here like you you you’re you’re

Take you’re you’re mixing fiction and reality here and you’re forgetting like this dude runs a company like he he’s running the company that’s being sued or at least he’s the figurehead of a company that’s being sued he can’t speak on that right like you need to talk to

Ari Emanuel about that you can’t talk to Triple H about that and I thought I thought some of the criticism criticism of him was weak yeah I I think that’s completely unfair and also um everything that you said is 100% % right like legally he can’t he can’t say

Nothing I would also say in that situation like I am a believer of that’s not the time in the place we just had Royal Rumble Cody Jade Bailey um Roman they have nothing to do with what Vince McMahon did and that was a big night for them and I think if if

He wanted to or like we’ll talk about it down the road I’m not going to use their moment and overshadow it with what that jackass did and talking about him that’s that’s the way and if he would have said that I would have understood it maybe some people like journalists and people

Like no you got to say something right now I don’t think that’s the place for not that not World Rumble that night I can’t fault anyone who asked right cuz Hunter’s in front of you you got I feel like you got to ask the question Hunter’s in front of you and

Ari isn’t but that’s where my anger would be is like where the hell is the head of this company where the hell where the hell is the head of TKO because I can’t my my timeline could be off so I’m not going to be too overly

Critical of this I know ranel didn’t say anything about Dana White now that might not have happened yet so that could be completely M I don’t I’m not I don’t remember when the Dana White Stuff did but Ari Manuel not saying anything now when the figure most synonymous with

Professional wrestling in this country for the last 50 years is involved in a lawsuit like that and the worst one of the many worst part is you knew you knew this existed and you brought him on your board I don’t want to hear from Triple H or Paul LEC or

Whatever you want to call him I want to hear from your ass right you were the one who put this all together nothing gets done without you I want to hear from Nick Khan Nick you’ve been you were familiar with all of this where are you

That’s like you know what this is the equivalent of for people who aren’t completely up on this story this is Keon Ellis at the podium that’s what this is this is Keon Triple H going to talk about this is Keon Ellis at the podium sir I don’t

Need to hear from you you’re a board member you’re not the one who put this all together you’re a board member because Ari Emanuel and Nick Khan decided you’re a board member those are the guys I want to hear from and question number one how did you bring

Him over when you knew this was out there because this was out there before the sale was done and I have my theory on that and it’s simple as Vince McMahon doesn’t sell unless he’s given a position with the company yeah and the first chance they had to get him out

They did and I don’t know what I would have done in that situation but I’ll be a drill I can understand that like if you want that like we’ll get we’ll get him out you’ll this will either come out or he’ll do something to Tri himself out

And we’ll get him out but we got to get that company first that’s the only way we could do it and I don’t know I’m not I’m not telling you what I would have done or wouldn’t have done I don’t know but I do understand that train of

Thought if if that’s how they went about it yeah I do too um I just think it’s it’s I just think just think you guys are I just think you guys are I just think some of those people are attacking the wrong the wrong people um we’ll come

Back we’ll get back to who I want to talk about this uh our will Z going to join us in about 30 minutes um that 65 game rule is getting a lot of attention uh especially now with the potential back-to-back MVP appearing to be heard

Again and it makes me question this is a great call by Jesse you look at Joelle you look at Tyrese some things we’ve seen recently is this 65 game rule doing maybe a little bit of unintended harm we’ll talk about that when D Casey return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320

You do that’s why you’re the producer dude I I’m not I haven’t really paid a lot of attention to that backstory but was Shane disgusted by Vince or did Vince kind of shun Shane I think the a little bit of both but the one who I think

Was sick of Vince was Stephan yeah Stephanie walk because Stephanie left she walked away from everything yeah step when Vince came back Stephan’s left like that that screamed something to me um I don’t know what Shane’s I don’t even know what Shane’s I don’t think Shane

Even has a role in the company now I don’t I don’t know what he is except rehabbing from his quad injury they um all these little Clips are coming up you never really know what’s part of the show and what’s reality if they had a clip it didn’t

Seem like it was from that long ago maybe less than 10 years ago where Shane’s in the ring with Vince and Stephanie and he they’re talking they’re cutting a promo and he says something to the effect of this isn’t the time to go into details Stephanie but your dad

Years ago did something very very bad that was the night Shane came back yeah in Detroit I had to come back and save him he said we’re not gonna get into it but I had to come back and say a nice sh they’re circulating that clip

Around okay guys that’s a work like I come on what are we doing here that was to get Shane into a Hell in a Cell match like stop it but it’s always you know Hell in a Cell well they did it’s like oh yeah Shane McMahon’s fighting hell in

Undertaker in a Hell in a Cell [ __ ] what thank God he didn’t blow his quad in that shoot thank God he didn’t kill himself jump off that damn cage was that quad clip and altimer oh yeah yeah it was WrestleMania right yeah with Snoop yeah it’s funny because before like Shane’s Gass Shane

Does that long WrestleMania ramp entrance he gets in the ring he you know Shane’s a bigger dude now he’s sweating all the hell he’s red like you and then he takes that first jump lands and boom quad gone quad gone Shane doesn’t come across like Stephanie doesn’t either neither one of

Them seem to come across like their dad does like some guys who have kids oh yeah he’s an [ __ ] oh yeah so is his son his son’s a piece of [ __ ] just like he is Shane does not come across that way they come across like the kids who hate

Their dad yeah kind of well except when Stephanie took the ring and said my dad is retired let’s clap for him yay Steph come on now come on Steph yeah I’m guessing she regrets that one because I think even wrestling fans Now find him gross

Yeah and it it takes a lot to get wrestling fans to think that you’re gross I got a question for you you know what Saturday is what game is on Saturday what game is on Saturday I yes is it the Kings and the Bulls well that is on Saturday for sure but

This is something I knew that was on Saturday it’s something I oh the Pro Bowl games the Pro Bowl gam is that on Sunday is it on Sunday I don’t know either way the 50 yard punting contest a game that 10 15 years ago we definitely would

Know was on Saturday Duke North Carolina North Carolina yeah number seven versus number three not even like just the oh ho home it’s the Rivalry it’s like good games and nobody knows it’s crazy I just found out 10 minutes ago normally at 4:00 when we you know switch stations and you know

Look up and there’s a college football game I or college basketball game I try to find the NBA one I mean we got the quad screen with college basketball everywhere and I’m just no just no what’s watch Hawks Hornets men’s men’s college basketball is having maybe the worst year in my

Lifetime it it’s just awful this year poor I I’m not even trying to talk about the kids just the structure of college basketball is they don’t know what to do right now they don’t know what to do with the transfer portal with kids not coming to college and going to overtime

Elite all that other stuff they have no clue what to do it’s been a terrible year what we’ve known college sports as and like all the tradition everything people love about college Sports is that all dead now is it is this a new era I guess it’s a new era I think college

Football like is it ever going to find like is it ever going to find that find it again uh maybe not in our lifetime because these These placers are going to new uh conferences these teams are going to new conferences they’ll create their own little rivalries and stuff like that

Like um like Ryan if she likes college football she’ll be like oh yeah Arizona colle has always been a rivalry imagine USC Purdue you know what I mean oh my God may maybe they have that in their but for how we know yeah we’ve known colle remember like I said I watched

That Heisman Trophy 30 30 for 30 that was like the biggest story in sports who was gonna win the Heisman Payton uh Charles Woodson or this guy Randy Moss and I think those days are long gone long long gone and don’t even get me started on college basketball my poor

Beloved college basketball I was trying to figure out I think college basketball is in a worse State than college football way more way more and I was trying to figure out because you know I watch my watch my my games and stuff like that and Pack 12 I love the Pack 12

But I’m like so disgusted it’s the last year of the Pack 12 I almost don’t want to watch this year you know I don’t even want to get invested they’re having they got a lot of great teams in the Pack 12 but I want to watch I find myself saying

You know what I want to watch these conferences and follow the story of those conferences more than the bigger conferences because I want to see what’s going on in the big West or the WCC or the Big Sky or you know uh the Southland the Mak something like that because it

Feels like they don’t change as much is what I’m seeing from the big guys yeah it’s tough it’s tough I hate that that investment isn’t there anymore I used to really enjoy college basketball now I just turn it the women have it the women definitely have part I think part of

That I think part of that speaks to the programs like you’re you’re You’re Building programs and that was the thing like it was Duke right and that crew Like Me growing that Grant Hill group that a lot of people hated um then you had that North Carolina group uh then

You you know you start learning like about you know Kansas and those guy you know guys that are there and then Georgetown and like you you it’s it’s the program it’s the coach it’s the star and normally there’s you know maybe it’s not three or four years but normally

It’s two right in few cases it’s not but normally you got like two years to really get behind that Squad then they retool and keep moving obviously it’s not like that anymore and then you got you know the elite and overtime and all of that stuff in play but with the women

You got the South Carolinas you know building monsters you got the LSU and the USC’s and the Dukes and all of these Crews you know building building these different teams did you see I I actually saw a followup on this story this morning that I didn’t get an opportunity to read

But Tennessee is in trouble because of nil violations again I heard the football team right football program it’s the football program so the so the the article read because that’s what I was trying to find because it was nonspecific but as I read through it more the football program is the center

Of the investig but they believe it spreads throughout other groups and Tennessee has already paid a record $8 million fine because of nil violations and that is that’s the that’s the thing with all of this is this nil stuff and nil is let’s like we we you know we’ve talked

About this with Coach Patrick before nil’s very public but it still it still feels like back room stuff because all Nils aren’t on the up and up and in Tennessee’s case it was an organization that was created to fund these a they’re not real nil deals it’s

Just a I guess you’d use the term shell Company to pay these Collegian athletes yeah which you’re not allowed to have right and I can think of two universities off the top of my head who have signed very very big recruits on the women’s side who both have those we

Heard we heard that USC girl got two million Shu got two million I think Rich Paul’s are agent yeah like yo and and I’m sorry you’re competing against schools that don’t get nil money that don’t have those shell companies that are like no we’re still the academic’s first organization like athletic

Directors board of directors they’ve got a they’ve got a adjust their thinking across Sports men women football basketball whatever when you start judging coaches because if you’re we’ll use uh we’ll use Duke and North Carolina obviously this isn’t the case with those programs but for example Duke in North

Carolina you got one of the most stored rivalries on the planet if North Carolina has $10 million in NN money to Shell out and Duke cast too how do you judge the wins and losses in that not in terms of a record perspective or an CAA but like in a hiring perspective like

We’re all of the agreement Ryan Day fails this year against Michigan he gone that’s because Michigan and Ohio State are on the same plane when it comes to this stuff right when you’re not on the same plane how do you determine oh you can’t beat your rival you’re fired how

Can you get bad at the Purdue coach if he can’t keep up that’s it it’s a whole different it’s it’s not even college sports anymore hey and salute to these young brothers and sisters for getting paid but man hey thoughts and prayers to coaches athletic directors uh and and

And people of that ilk because man this your job just got a lot harder if your University doesn’t have you know a bank roll somewhere and the and the thing that I don’t like about it is it’s not even college sports anymore but it’s not even the pros because in the pros if

Somebody wants to go to the Kings they sign a fiveyear that they cannot transfer portal out of if the Bucks offer them more yeah right right you know what I’m saying like you’re locked into this deal like you you got to stay in it these guys they can go from school

To school year to year just hopping around and yeah that’s good for their pockets and stuff like that but it’s just I think it’s a terrible precedent and it’s it’s just convoluting this whole thing like this whole thing is a mess it is an absolute mess where did it go

Wrong you guys think when they it went wrong when they two things when they the NCAA decided not to still not pay the players if they would have paid them they still could have said you can’t get Nils and that the nil is like where it

If I can get an nil at sack state for 50,000 and I play well and then USC is like oh I got one for 500,000 come to my school now there’s just there’s no loyalty in the game there’s no they’re just going for the next dollar yeah

Whereas if it was something set up by the NCAA where everyone’s getting the Big 10 y gets $500,000 to pay their kids all the schools they’ll probably stay a little bit more so it it messed up there and then I really believe the transfer portal not getting out of the the

Practice of them having to sit out a year that messed it out too because now people are getting the transfer Port we talk about nil well if they just don’t like their playing time that’s it they’ll just leave and they can play the next year whereas if you had to sit out

Ohio State’s loving the transfer Porter right now oh man they’re eating they had a huge off season and why do you think that is they got the money well more than no not they have the money now they have more money because all of them dudes in Columbus or around the world

Who went to Ohio State what they just watch yeah yeah they just watched their arrival host that National Title trophy give you a little bit more to make sure yeah this isn’t happening we’re getting the players in in here and if your boy can’t get it done he’s out of

Here next year so we’re gonna fund this whole thing to get the players that you need but if he can’t get it done you need to come up with a plan right now of how we can replace Ryan day because we ain’t seeing that again it’s no accident

Ohio state is feasting in this this off season they have a bunch of hurt boosters and that’s all this is the the in Trojan CBB says Kenny are you really trying to say you wouldn’t go to 1140 if they offered you to give you 10 times more money that’s exactly what I’m

Saying first and foremost but I wouldn’t be going over there but in all seriousness I can’t just leave with no consequences there is there’s a there’s consequence whether I can pay that off or what that’s a whole different thing you can leave and you can go work for

1140 in three years yes yes like there’s there’s rules to this there’s no rules to that game and by the way you can’t work anywhere else exactly you you you could you could sit at home with Ryan and Reese and then in three years when you’re worth a fraction of what you’re

Worth now being on the radio seven hours a day yeah then you can go work over there and that’s not what happens in college sports they just bounced they had a good good season they can get a bigger nil somewhere else I’m gone I don’t care about this letter intent that

I signed or commitment that I made and like I said I’m not going to say they shouldn’t get paid or not like that I’m all I’m saying is it messes up the game like it it messes up the system more than anything and I think it started

Jesse when NC if the NCAA would have said okay these guys and girls they can get paid we’ll set up the system where it’s an even playing field all the way across but they can get money that would have regulated this stuff now this stuff is unregulated and it’s it’s a

Mess is the fix now maybe put like limits on the transfer portal like you you only get to transfer once and you’re however many years in college or something like that they might have opened the door it might be too late to close the door well you can go you can

Go back to making them sit out a year if you transfer you have to sit out a year and that makes people think a little bit more than just I’mma just up and leave was this rule with the transfer portal um help me out here was this like this

Derive from the pandemic more so like people lost the year and all that so they gave them like you don’t have to wait out another year it might have I can’t remember exactly there was a lot of there was I think there was growing a growing sentiment that like a lot of

Kids wanted to transfer because of family hardships um uh homesickness different things like that and it was like okay we can wave this and I think the pandemic was a part of that I think the timing adds up that we can wave this sit out a year but it but

The transfer portal became what it is because of money yeah on the nil that’s when everything changed because it’s the scenario you just laid out right there if I’m making $5,000 from sack State because uh Sky River Casino you know was taking care of all the student athletes

There but some movie star at USC wants his school to be really good and he’s going to pay me $500,000 to go I’m hitting that transfer portal that ain’t got nothing to do with homesickness or anything like that there’s no consequence I could just I be there

Tomorrow and be on the practice squad and so I think I think they gotta get these guys sitting out a year 114 1140 did send out fielders by the way they was slick hey hey what y’all what y’all think check little he check like one first of all no

Two y’all hoes can’t afford US come on man aryy we good y’all can’t afford US I would I would I would break the system y on what I would ask for I’d be like the Lions uh offensive coordinator 15 million yeah shout out to Ben Johnson

Too if you can’t ask for it go ahead oh yeah oh boy was wrong again what’s what’s a u uh uh your boy with the uh the radio show the quarterback what’s his name the the the Bengals quarterback no no no no Boomer what did Boomer say Boomer said Ben was gone he

Was like oh yeah he’s going to be I think the commander coach yeah no no he’s gonna be the Commander’s coach dead he like no he’s going he’s going to Washington I’m reporting he’s going to Washington so everyone kind of ran with it and I think they even said

It on the broadcast they’re like yeah Ben’s probably gonna be the the next head coach of the the Washington commanders nah I think I think Boomer was the same one said the commanders that the football team was going to be the Admirals I don’t maybe maybe maybe maybe

Dropped that source that you got in can’t listen to that guy no more can’t listen to him no more boomer come on dog Boomer struggling man he’s struggling thoughts and prayers boom thoughts and prayers how you feel about this 65 game rule uh I don’t it’s getting a lot of

Attention I think it started with Tyrese cuz Tyrese I didn’t we didn’t realize just tell yesterday Tyrese is like three games away from not qualifying for all NBA and then of course now you know the the Joel embiid watch is on you know hyperdrive right now because he appeared

To have gotten hurt last night and he’s getting an MRI today I I I would think we’ we’d hear something about that relatively soon uh to to just a nasty fall from kaminga just right on top of his leg while he was down on the ground and you know

You have a guy who was putting up pretty historic scoring numbers uh you have a guy who was one of the leading vote gets in the All-Star Game potentially losing you know postseason postseason accolades and that I think has has uh brought up the conversation and of course Draymond he’s

Lost Defensive Player of the Year Awards you know to Kawhi Leonard he played he played seven games that year and and and kawh Leonard you know won the defensive player of the year award over him because you know he’s the greatest defensive player of all time and you saw

That was fact fact checked already oh yeah I retweeted that from my man law Murray he was like yeah he played Kawhi Leonard played 64 games in 72 in the years he won defensive play the year flippantly said I think I think he played 51 games the year he won over

For me all right fam your boy just out there making stuff he’s like a Twitter account Draymond Green is the walking bment of a of of a Twitter account he just goes out there and makes stuff up saying whatever Joel playing tonight felt very much so because of the 65 game

Limit where I think is actually quite [ __ ] guys oh see well there you have that there you had that we’re gonna get it we’re gonna get a sign and it’s gonna be however many days since last C how many days did we make it bro it was when

Was J that was two days ago days ago y j was two days ago we’re just gonna leave draymond’s face on the screen then that’s what we’ll do that’s the that’s the dump button sign right there is draymond’s face on the screen I wonder if the FCC just has like

A person assigned to our show you know there is no more useless organization in the world than the FC they’re not needed I just and shout out to Odyssey Odyssey always gets it unfiltered too yeah the Odyssey app yeah salute if y’all ever want to hear the show completely unedited and you’re not

On the stream just go to if you’re not on the video stream just go if you’ve ever wondered like oh is there a patreon version to the show yeah it’s the ody app yes it’s the app Allison says reset the day since profanity clock we need a

We need a board behind us we’ll steal the Insiders board yeah we need we need a board behind us and we made it to gate it was a good run made two days good run good stuff guys we made it two days we might need to start keeping stats too

For like which cuss word is said the most What did Jamal say he said he said s s yeah like does Draymond fall under that or Draymond BS BS that’s a different that’s a different category BS yeah zero days since last incident gota the um I mean like him just just saying whatever though is just kind of Comedy

Just saying whatever you said something to me yesterday I think I didn’t listen I did see headline on what I said no no I listen to what you said I didn’t listen to what Stephen A said okay but there was a uh a headline on dotc this

Morning that said uh Stephen A says players have no one to blame but themselves for this 65 game rule and I didn’t I I I knew it was Wednesday and homeboy was on I didn’t have any interest in seeing any interaction between him they say lot used to play

Every game yeah I just I didn’t have any interaction to I had no desire to hear that so I didn’t watch it but the headline is what you and I were talking about yesterday after the show yeah I mean he’s right though they have nobody to blame but themselves because they

Took this whole sitting out thing way too far and now you’re in a situation where it’s got to be policed to a certain degree I think maybe they’ll um they’ll get rid of it but or reduce the number or something like that at some point but if I was Adam Silver and

Everything i’ like you guys you guys did this you guys wanted to sit out everybody wanted to rest day and all this other stuff and we had to do something to make it easier it sucks for a guy like Tyrese where it might cost him I think like $40 million not making

The lnba before the extension and all this other stuff so it sucks but you guys get together and say hey are we gonna are we gonna be a little more real with ourselves TC are we gonna be a little more real with ourselves and if

If we can play get out there and try and find ways to play as opposed to taking a and and here’s the thing that bothered me a lot of people started to ride the wave of arrest or um de MP you know low management because they thought that’s

What you were supposed to do if you were a superstar they were like oh man yeah that’s what the that’s what the top guys do so I’mma do it you know what I mean I’m I’m just looking at him right here in front of my screen I’m Trey young and

I’m a superstar and Superstars take low management days so that’s what I’mma do as opposed to just thinking for themselves and being like I’mma play every play every game what if um what if they switched up to ro because to me me like I think like with the MVP awards

And all that like defensive play there I think the 65 game rule is fine but it’s tough for a guy to lose out on 40 million too because I think because the other side of that too with Tyrese like even if he has missed those games I

Think you look at I think we’d all votee for him though to make the team right yeah he’s not I I think they’re see this and this is the difficulty of this like I don’t know how you exercise discretion in all of this and how you try to determine well Tyrese isn’t missing

Games because he wants to Hell Joel not missing games because he wants to Jo’s playing on one leg right now these guys are missing games because they’re hurt the there’s a spirit of the rule and then like the actual Rule and maybe there needs to be

Some be a committee see which is also tough because is out tonight because of an ankle injury so so like and what’s tough about that is like Luca had an ankle issue headed into the Kings game where there was serious question about whether luuka was going to play in the

Kings game or not and I don’t know how you I don’t that’s the problem with that I don’t know how you distinguish the the two things like the injury versus so a situation like Luca versus an obvious situation like Joel and Tyrese so in my opinion that’s why

You get rid of it but you can’t get rid of it until they understand well you’re right you can’t get rid of it year one right no you can’t get rid of it one for sure I’d give it about three years yeah cuz Adam Adam has not made a point

Like you can’t get rid of it the point is all right I hear you guys argument but if once again you guys did this we had no way of policing Greg papovich you did it as well that’s right because you wanted to make a point for the schedule

No you wanted to be funny yeah you wanted to be F if you started all of this trying to be funny yeah and and and pissing everyone off then we’re not playing with you trying to get this bag we’re not play maybe that’s when it goes

Away once the bag is secured yeah maybe that’s when it goes away but right now it’s not secured so this is what it is Adam Sil going to change his name to securing the bag and I hate to be that way because you know I understand there’s a lot of games

Played it’s a lot on the I I get all that but and it’s it’s a it is a Mad Dog statement that I’m about to make they used to play 82 games no that dog carway over here what how why do you think it’s different now why is it different yeah

That like why do you think the Harrison barnes’s of the NBA are so rare because people trying to ride waves I think it’s simply that like Lebron and uh Steph Curry who really doesn’t but just naming two top guys they take rest days yeah so if I’m I’m just throwing

That a name once again if I’m D’Angelo Russell on that level I should be taking rest days too those guys are also 36 and 38 respectively 39 respectively yeah I mean that’s different that’s different than Trey young yeah I mean you got young guys who do it I know no no I I

100% yeah but I think I think that’s I think that’s more so why it happens there’s there’s guys who like you can make the argument LeBron should get a rest day every now then I also and I know what you talk about like the the process of getting ready um

You know it’s different that that that takes a load toll on you as well but number one I think they I think they do it anyway like even when they’re not playing I think LeBron goes out for his shoot rounds and all that other stuff

Yeah but I also I I think you’re right but I also think there’s a um a different level of intensity to it well there’s it’s it’s not just the different in level of intensity of the shoot R it’s also okay I’m I’m playing today

So I wake up at this time you know you know this better than anybody basketball players are probably the most routine regimented athletes like on the planet like don’t interrupt their nap like you you know what I mean like it’s nap pregame it’s this it’s this structure it

Is this defined structure that they do leading into a game Ray Allen is notorious and we have to break so we’ll come back and we’ll talk more about this uh at some point we’ll I just I I don’t think that’s a fair like point but we’ll

Get back to it will Z joins us when we return here on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 it’s the most random radio show on the planet okay no we’re in the oh no got a break sorry we’ll be right back the hell do they oh there goes Jerry what’s Jerry talking

About okay I to tell you what what he say guys no you don’t you don’t have to we answer a lot of questions and people ask us a lot of questions but you know we got to answer them sometimes and it’s not always the easiest thing and I

Just want to see the Cowboys win a Super Bowl so bad it really hurts that we haven’t won one and I just so bad Chris Mard your thoughts stop see see here’s the problem Jerry Jones doesn’t understand that you can’t just willfully win a Super Bowl you have to

Be out there doing the right things day after day are you happy with yourself yes rard hasn’t happened in a while look at that get the chat going no that’s facts what’s up William what’s up you guys I can’t listen to Shaq without laughing anymore hold up is that a shoot

Do you have a dow impression no I don’t have a d impression let me see if I could try I don’t I can’t I mean I don’t know I I don’t have a de I don’t have any when I when I come up with one I’ll let you

Know it’s going to be practicing in front of a mirror for a week other than keyword Usher that’s the only impression you’ve ever done oh well look Jerry Jones oh no one asked for this he no one asked for this talk about how he wants a championship

But Jerry you don’t know nothing about a championship you don’t know nothing about that the thing about it is Will understands what it takes to get to another level and when you talk about trying to win on another I don’t want to hear about that I want to hear about

That I want hear no Chuck no I want hear about that that’s funny you need to find a way to get that part does make me laugh every will Z will be with us on Friday out of Sky Rivers know yeah see looking forward to it it’s gonna be

Fun bring your wakanda numbers computer that you touched I’ll just take it off the wall bring it with tomorrow well the the the uh Apple thing I think it drops February 2nd or something like that yeah I read a review for it this morning sense I read a review for it this

Morning it said was is is legit it’s no we we’re coming back well uh Casey it just said before the commercial break ended that doesn’t the Apple thing drop um in the next day or so the the VD the goggles thing and I was reading a review of it today and it

Apparently like of all it’s it’s the one but it’s not for I think $3500 it’s not it’s not quite there yet it’s not it’s it’s not perfect but like apple is on its way to establishing itself is like the like this is what virtual reality is Maybe by Christmas

It’ll be ready uh that’s funny uh I doubt that not from what from what I read one of the biggest like things is it get after you wear it for a while it gets heavy like you it starts to feel you know uncomfortable but like the virtual reality world of it is pretty

It’s it’s there the the stuff with the like your apps like the text it’s that’s not there yet being able to type on it like we joke about Will’s you know giant computer where he just presses numbers in the sky and these stats pop up like

You could do that with your VR machine it’s not perfect yet but it’s on its way and that’s that’s the one that’s the one if that’s what people are using it for I’ve got uh problems questions about why people are using it just for basketball

Stats but well no well no what I think what I think is you you can like you can be in that world whether you’re watching a movie or whatever you do in virtual reality and your text messages will pop up like hey Will can you come on the

Show at 145 and instead of you know taking off your phone like your your virtual keyboard pops up and you just say see you then now that’s that stuff really like once they figure it out leaving a little bit more than this because I I felt that way

When I first got in a little Oculus metaverse I was like damn if it what the next thing they got to figure out is they gotta figure out how it’s like your phone right so if I’m on my phone I’m not closed off from Damian I’m like on

My phone he’s here okay whatever when you put the goggles on you’re closed out from everything outside of that yeah world yeah thisly go between both that’s that’s gonna be fire I think this one does do a little bit of that a little bit of that

Like yeah so that I forgot what they called that it has mix reality maybe that’s what it is and they said that’s that’s not not there it’s not there yet like they’re they try but it really you’re pretty closed off you’re pretty closed off uh will Z with us willz

Stats.com Will’s going to join Jo us on Friday out at Sky River Casino to uh help us get ready for the the the the Kings and the Pacers and then we’ll we’ll watch the Kings and the Pacers together we hope you guys can come through uh and hang out it’s always an

Amazing time out at Sky River Casino at 32 Bruce Street uh we’d love love love to see you guys out there with us man we’re going to have a lot of fun doing the live show beginning at 12 o’clock and then uh that’ll carry over right

Into the game uh at 4:30 but we got a game tonight will uh and while I do want to get a bigger picture view of the Sacramento Kings let’s start with this Miami game it’s a four game win streak versus a seven game losing streak uh

What do the numbers tell us about what’s going on with these two franchises right now it’s really odd because so many players are having good seasons for Miami like you look at their individual numbers and Jimmy Butler is at 21.1 points 5.1 rebounds 4.3 assists and 1.2

Deals on good shooting splits 49 42 88 Tyler herro 21 4.8 and 4.1 on 43 40 85 bam is at 20 10 and four with a steel and a block it’s like everyone’s having really good individual games and Seasons but for some reason they just are struggling a

Bit and I don’t know they play really slow so they have the second lowest Pace in the league it’s just kind of they’re a weird team to figure out they don’t shoot the ball well as a team 46.1% from the field that’s the fifth worst in the

League uh they don’t take that many threes so I think that hinders them as well 33.3 per game for 18th most so I don’t know they’re odd but they’re also the Heat and this is what they looked like last season and then they went to the ch ionship so they

Could bounce out of it anytime from everything that I’ve been reading it seems like they’re going to try and come out with a lot of energy be physical and just put that at the Forefront of their plans for tonight and that’s something that the Kings have struggled with at

Times well and look they they can they can you know figure it out and get everything going in the postseason all they want I just need them to continue to do what they’re doing what they’re doing tonight that’s what I need this is a team that um when they we never really

Talked about it and I’m glad because it’s not on wax uh because I was like when they got the made the Terry Rosier trade I was like y this a good move for them these boys gonna take off still might but I don’t think they’ve won a

Game with Terry Ros they have yeah so I I still think I still think that’s a good deal for them but I’m a little unsure as to why they they’ve struggled you you laid laid out some of the numbers but I still don’t understand why they’ve played so bad as of

Late yeah and it could be I think one of the things that really stands out with them is their interior defense is bad like bad bad so they allow opponents to shoot 69.1% in the restricted area that’s the fifth highest in the league and 49.9% in the floater area that’s the

Highest so it’s their paint defense just isn’t there and they don’t block shots everyone always talks about how the Kings need a shop locker and the heat are last in the league with with 3.4 per game over the last few years they’ve really been kind of the team that takes

The idea of taking charges over blocking shots but Kevin Love’s getting older he isn’t taking as many charges anymore he’s at six total on the season Kyle Lowry has led the league or been close to the league in charges drawn every year he’s gone so it’s I just don’t

Think that they’re able to stop teams inside and that’s been kind of one of the main things dragging them down this year so will that feels to me like this should be a heavy domas dearon and Malik game yep like this should be a game that

We see Malik kind of get back into that that Groove and you know do it you know you could establish that perhaps by will taking advantage of that and getting to the basket yeah and that’s what the Kings have done so well as of late it

Seems like they’ve really put more of an emphasis on driving and finishing inside um compared to the three-point shot early on in the season their three-point volume is still there but it just feels different um again that’s just more of a feeling than a numbers situation but it’s definitely something where I’d like

To see them go to the inside drives and attacking early because if you’re missing like the Grizzlies how they lost didn’t make hardly any threes in the first half if you do that against the Heat tonight and the Heat come out aggressive it could be over relatively quickly we don’t want

That we don’t want that uh one of the things and you you always looking out for me will I appreciate that but the the game against Memphis on Monday I didn’t think the Kings played terribly bad as far as generating looks I thought they just didn’t knock down their open

Threes and you showed the wide open shots they had 27 wide open threes I think they were eight of 27 uh you put out there and that’s that was the game like I said if they hit three of those that turns into a I don’t know what the

Math is like a 17-point win against Memphis where you put up 112 or something like that have they consistently generated those wide openen looks the way that I like for them to to to generate or you know has that fluctuated at all yeah they are still they’re

22.6 per game that’s good for fourth most in the league um I think that’s right around what they’ve been at all season uh looking at just like the last 10 games uh they’re at yeah 2.8 so it’s gone down a little over the last few games I think that’s because of taking

More shots inside but it’ll take 20.8 attempts anytime and looking at the percentage there 35. 6 which is pretty low probably explains the four game losing streak uh in there just not hitting those looks like they can so well in all your you know studying of the Kings over

These last four games like is is there a number is there like something that stands out it’s like okay this is part of the re this is a big reason the kings are playing better this is a king big reason you know what might have been you

Know Memphis game is a good example Memphis game you know look like that earlier Charlotte game a game that might have been a loss earlier in the season resulted in a win like what what stands out to over these last four games or we don’t have to go over that far back what

Stands out these last four games versus the four games before that I was going to say fast break points but then you look at the the four game winning streak they were at 16 per game and then you look at the Four game losing streak and they’re at quick math

Like 14 so it’s not that big of a difference but it feels like they’ve been pushing the pace more mhm and the numbers don’t really bear it out but it has that sense and feel of they’re trying to move quickly up the court um so I think just that and going to

Sabonis inside more he’s just destroying teams inside at such a high clip that they really seem to be taking advantage of his ability to hit at a high percentage I get the impression baby Z is very concerned about this game tonight yeah sorry she is very very concerned about

That I mean I’m concerned about it a little bit too and it it doesn’t have as much to do we talked about it earlier D but doesn’t have as much to do with like the Kings and not playing bad or whatever I just I find it hard to

Believe that this Heat team that I think is actually pretty talented is going to lose another game they’re going to win they lose eight in a row and they’re at home extending that’s a record like seven is a record like they’re just going to extend it

Yeah I don’t know I don’t know I hope I hope the numbers Point towards it though I don’t know if there’s numbers that do but yeah they do and I think that’s where the inside numbers like the Kings I gave the Miami opponent numbers but the kings are shooting

69.5% in the restricted area and 47.7% in the float area like it really is from a numbers perspective to me it favors the Kings I think the main thing that will kind of show and be the biggest part of the game is the pace who’s going to dictate the pace of the

Game is it gonna be a slower game that the heat control or oh oh good I think I think the baby took Will away from us for a minute baby Z said like hey you can’t hear me in here they said the chat said uh uh will turned into Draymond Green he’s just

Sitting in the he’s just sitting in the will Z stats cave while while the baby’s screaming outside for cereal yeah she’s teasing right now it’s tough oh man yeah I say oh man like I’ve been through it like ain’t I went through it when I was

A baby but other than that I’m not familiar with the process but thoughts and prayers to you both thank you thank you um I want to get to the swing stat but can I just read you both something yeah John Hollinger what are you doing with him John Hollinger all Allstar

Reserves Devin Booker and Ant-Man kawi Leonard and Anthony Davis Paul George Jamal Murray and dearon fox anybody catch that some people just be interesting just be doing like I don’t even want to say like that because Jamal Murray’s the All-Star caliber player but it just be throwing anything out there just really

Just not to have sabonis out there it feels like did you notice who he left off Steph left off Steph feels left off St keny I know you’ve been saying it and I agree with you it’s hard to put Steph in this year I agree he’ll get in because step

But just it’s tough this year let’s look at uh a couple of things here fox has been a revelation on defense this season you this well this stand uh against Curry uh his stand this stand against Curry oh he he links it I was like why

Is he saying this stand fox has been a revelation on defense this season in the stand against Curry at the end of The Warriors Kings game last week was emblematic of that this wasn’t some random one-off it shown up on tape time and time again Curry meanwhile has

Dropped off substantially on this end and become a hugely popular Target for opponents I can make a lot of different arguments here but taking Curry over Fox right now feels weird based on what I’ve seen in the last several weeks it’s okay to think the 35y old version of Curry is

Still awesome but also think he’s not quite as awesome as he was two years ago H um then he goes into Jamal Murray which it doesn’t matter to us but bizarre anyways he left Curry off put dear on and Jamal Murray got a random reference I have not seen his name

Anywhere else neither except our man John Hollinger somebody else had mentioned that um a couple weeks ago about like where we are with Steph Curry and how he’s still Steph Curry but I mean he is a human and they’re like the difference with with where he’s at now

Is a little bit more reliant on his circumstances as far as like the players he’s playing with not not for his like he can still put up 30 but the Situation’s got to be a little bit more um to his to his benefit that it

Was three years ago you know what I mean three four years ago it didn’t matter what was going on didn’t matter who he was playing with didn’t matter what the others were doing he could go for 50 at any time doesn’t feel like we’re there anymore his two-point percentage and

Field goal percentage in general have both dropped substantially which to me I think is the biggest thing that shows he’s getting a little older last year he shot 49.3% from the field the year down to 45.5 and you feel like a just the two-pointers 57.9 to 52.4 so that’s a big drop

It’s he’s always been so crafty and people he’s the best shooter of all time but he’s always been a really good driver and finisher and that’s just starting to leave a little bit uh and I think that’s had more of an impact on this game Than People realize I realized I just looked

Straight for dear I like oh wait where’s what’ he say about domas well Hollinger lumps domas in with the likes of marinan Carl Anthony Towns goar shett holgren come on man singon Zion Williamson and Victor WI Yama wow John I don’t know what to say to you sir

Come on I don’t know what to say to you people just really don’t respect this game it’s crazy it’s crazy it really is because once again I think he’s just a victim of um his own success to a certain degree because he’s really good like he understands how to play the game

And how to get the best out of his talent and and his his his body but he’s he’s not the Super athlete or doing anything super extravagant and people hold that against him they’re like oh well he he’s good but I mean just look at him he’s not the type of

Supreme athlete that such and such is or whatever they hold that against him it’s crazy to me I think it’s because he’s just not a volume scorer and and people don’t appreciate high efficiency scores they just look at that standard points number and Damian you say it all the

Time if it’s not over 20 people aren’t gon to care and that’s what we’re talking about sangon is at 21.9 that’s his point total he’s at 9.2 rebounds that’s almost four less let’s look at soun’s assist total five that’s about three less than than Dom any guesses on if you set the

Everyone scoring over 19 points domas is at 19.9 there’s 59 players averaging over 19 any guesses on who has the highest field goal percentage oh it’s a bonus for sure yep 61.9 then you have Giannis the dunking machine at 60.7 Zion the other dunking machine and only shoots at The Rim

59% and yic who everyone loves and shoots from everyone on the floor 58.5 it’s just people don’t notice what sabonis is doing and he’s not just doing it with dunks he’s shooting mid-range shots he’s shooting in the floater area I could go on but it’s a broken

Record at this point no doubt I mean let’s be real what we’re sangun is so good his team is 22 and 24 after the the off season they have I see Lori Markin and he balling yep no doubt his you told Jazz are 24 and 25 good stuff the funny

Thing is when does that matter like because you’re telling me it matters so that’s why Minnesota has to have two all stars but it doesn’t matter for Steph Curry or foron or or any of this or the two guys who are actually because Steph might not make it I doubt it but Steph

Might not sanon’s not making it that’s people being stupid there are two guys that are making it LeBron James and Anthony Davis that team hey what’s the record 24 25 that’s that’s who we are LeBron James goes on front of the media and acknowledges he has a bad basketball

Team with two Allstars on it all right so 278 we’re gonna shoehorn dearen in here and ignore what damont sabonis is doing yeah so winning winning matters when gocha it’s convenient uh William I need a swing stat yeah fast break points for tonight I thought Direction you were gonna go

Yeah with the pace it just not so much that the have to win it by a lot it’s just they need to push the pace and I think that that will be kind of the singular stat that shows what the pace of the game was

As a whole so get out I can’t remember if you said this earlier are the Heat the worst in the league at fast fast break points or Pace uh fast break points uh they are second to last 12.1 per game okay I gota and the Kings I mean kings are only at 13

But uh in the last five games or in the last 10 games they’re at 16 per game so it’s gone up recently and un like that to continue tonight all right let’s do it will always a pleasure cannot wait to see you you and the MS are coming out on

Friday yes we are we’re getting the babysitter my mom I think is now my mom will be here um I’m sure watching on the TV and we’ll be out and having a good time I’m sure you’ll be featured on TV you’re will Z is a bigger

TV star than DLo and KY have ever been that’s facts nightly the Sacramento Kings uh favorite stat man right here our man will z uh favorite stat man that’s facts can’t wait to see you on Friday my friend thank you as always thanks guys have a good one all right

That’s our man will z uh he’ll be with us Friday at Sky River Casino 32 Bruce Street uh we’ll hope you come through if you haven’t read his writeups head over to willz stats.com the Kings do love this guy I don’t say nothing because we don’t pay

Well but Kings need to be paying well Z well I mean I think the Kings do love him not even the Kings right well he’s featuring on all of their social media stuff oh he gets the social I see no NBC Sports California for sure but yeah like

They they take Will’s tweets and they put it up on their you know their Keegan Murray picture or whatever will gonna make it he gonna make it oh he is Will Will Will’s gonna do I think Will’s dream is to like do something with these numbers for his like he he could be

Without the front office experience he he could be the Bobby marks guy he could be the uh uh our man uh Keith Smith yes he can absolutely do that yeah he gonna make it that’s for sure will Will’s one of my favorite Journeys watching will like will will got more like Twitter

Followers engagement than I got like he he he watching his his growth over the last few years man is is has been awesome it really is absolutely awesome my man will z um so it’s the kings in the Heat tonight in a game that I just don’t know

What to make of I don’t know what to make I can’t make heads or Tales of this because I’m of the belief I’m with you in the S like he gonna lose again like the record seven is going to become the record eight now the Kings can do

Something about that because what I I just don’t cuz I feel like the heat are going to come out and I don’t know what they’ve looked like over these past seven games I didn’t realize they were going through like a thing until they got to four yeah and then it then I

Started kind of f like yo what is going on with Miami right now and it’s always surprising when you see Miami lose upwards of like five six seven point uh six seven games in a row but I expect them to at home be focused come out try

To punch the kings in the teeth and I just hope the Kings go oh that was cute we got you let’s run let’s play ball the the question is going to be whether or not the kings are good enough to impose their will on another team that’s what

It come an experienced team yeah that’s what it’s going to come down to and that’s GNA be it’s going to be like all right well this team is reached another level where they can do that you know we’ll have a good good grasp on whether or not they can tonight uh because like

You said IAM is going to come out they’re going to be like we’re going to end this thing tonight and uh we’re going to get after it and if they can take that initial onew punch and say no you’re not we’re better we’re we’re the big dogs now those little puppies we the

Big dogs and they impose their will and send them to an eighth eighth loss it’s gonna be like damn the Niners or excuse me the Niners the Kings K defin Focus can you focus well Christian mcaffry is right here on my screen why I don’t know somebody tweeted something about Chris

Mcaf well that’s funny that you said the 49ers because I actually have a question and I’ll ask it now you think about it during the commercial break are the Boston Celtics the San Francisco 49ers strong greeny Vibes right here but I’ll explain when we get back and KC brought

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Pineapple um and I like the the strawberry joint as well world to boxing Shakur Stevenson comes out and tweets a couple of days ago his retirement from the sport of boxing at 26 years old Shakur I want to make sure I I have the the Tweet here in

Front of me just making sure I mean he’s tweeted some more since then but here he is the other day he says I’m officially retiring from the sport of boxing I’ll be in the gym forever perfecting my craft and helping the Next Generation become great and chase their dreams but

I ain’t for real oh I ain’t FW you know what that means I ain’t FW with this weak boxing game and then a flexing Emoji stop with the fake hustle bro just stop I this is this this irritates me to no in he’s not the only one that does

There’s other boxers who do it but you’re not retiring just stop stop you’re going to have you’re going to have a fight lined up in two months you know you know yeah I’m back let’s just stop it just irritates me to know in stop with the attention seeking

To stop with the fake hustle you’re not retiring bro stop and that’s all I really got to say because it pisses me off when they do this type of stuff stop faking all right get your ass off of Twitter get back in the gym talk to Bob

Arum get your little opponent then get ready for your next fight coming up in probably three months or so you’re not retiring stop it’s as dumb as when Tia Fimo did it stop that’s the 13th round acting like a bunch of Brett favs man my guy need to hang up

Well yeah you got to turn your mic on no I don’t know did you’s alert come on man I know D I know Ben is out tonight and this a separate injury with the left knee contusion yeah I don’t even I’m not even saying that like being mad at him I’m I’m very

Upset that he can’t stay Health like for him I want him to be able to just you don’t need have to play at the super high level I just want him to be able to play some basketball uh Simmons developed swelling and knee from a hit during Game Source issue that’s

Not I don’t know that sucks man that sucks I I just I don’t think basketball is for my dude I wish it was uh I think he has a lot to offer the game but I don’t know that’s brutal just brutal uh Tom Brady will take his role

As Fox analyst next season um that’ll be interesting especially since Greg Olsson did such a good job he was phenomenal he really was and his role is uh yet to be determined I’m not sure what they’re going to do the number two team we talked about a little bit yesterday the

Air and uh Amazon need to holl at him yeah I’d be I’d be fine with that I don’t think Herby’s doing a bad job I actually think her’s really good at it but I still am conditioned to college guy think that when I hear his voice

Yeah uh it’s College why don’t you go ahead and get rid of Al Michaels while you’re there too and that’s facts just I’m tired of the whole Al Michaels is his miserable stick yeah like we’re we’re good like Al we get it you’re old you hate this you’re just doing it for

The paycheck like it’s fine please just be done you know these these these old folks in in sports media boy they they’ve taught me something I don’t ever want to be like them if I’m blessed enough to be in this media game when I’m older you know I’m in 60s or 70s or

Something like that I don’t ever want to sound like these people yeah I mean they they everything is a problem they hate everything like what are you doing what are you covering the game for yeah if I’m if I’m ever doing that just you know just put me out the

Pasture oh yeah yeah just send me send me send me send me home take my key card just clear out the locker just say hey just head to the house bro I don’t never want to sound like these old old people man and if I ever start screaming on a daily basis

About random subjects same thing empty the locker show me to the door like this is it uh but yeah Greg olssen has done a a really good job just Tom Brady is very highly paid PA they signed that man to a 10year $357 million deal I don’t even know if

He’s any good have no clue Tony Romo had a lot of these people thinking Tony Romo walked off the field became lead analyst was great and they thought you know what if Tony Romo could do it Jason Wigan could do it well that didn’t work TV contracts close to NBA

Contracts or NFL contracts you think TV uh uh NBA NBA NBA yeah like stinks he’s getting that money oh yeah getting that bread yep absolutely yeah do you I hate to do this because this isn’t really fair but just gut instinct right now you think Tom Brady is good or bad

So I remember when Tony Romo start I was like Tony Romo’s not charismatic to do this stuff like he’s so dry and like kind of boring but he approached the game with such like excitement Brady is kind of a nerd like you know what I mean like Brady’s I don’t know like I

Wouldn’t even say he’s just dry like I can’t no I think he’s I don’t think he I think his uh I you know what he is I think he’s awkward there we go um I don’t know I I I’m sitting on the fence with this one I if I were to I

Would guess if he like if he if he’ll talk like yeah like he could probably see the game like few others can oh for sure like that that’s not a that wouldn’t be an issue but I also feel like I you you know I think there’s a

Reason pton didn’t do this right and I don’t think it’s just the schedule I think there’s a reason Payton didn’t do this Tom you know whether Tom is good or not Tom might find out he doesn’t like it you know with the the the the commitment that goes into doing this for

An entire season season um I don’t know I’m I’m anxious though I’m looking forward to hearing it I just don’t think he he talks enough and with enough enthusiasm but that’s what I thought about Romo I didn’t follow Romo enough in his career I did but but jerks

Laughing at his fumble well guy fumbled then he tried to run into the ins tripped up run Tony run oh oh we’re getting our jokes off okay I see Jesse but I like and this isn’t fair either but just looking at Tony Romo the the Charisma that he has and

The um enthusiasm he has for talking about a game I just look at him I said that fits that fits Tom could have been muted a little bit in in new uh New England too could have been could have been but I I look at like he showed a little bit

More personality in Tampa Bay yeah not a lot but a little bit a little bit I don’t look at I don’t look at Tom Brady and think and once again that like you said he could have been muted couldn’t have been his real personality or whatever but I don’t look

At like him and say that’s a chatter box right there like they’re gonna have to he’s gonna he’s talking too much and he’s too enthusiastic he’s he’s he’s super energetic oh man and oh here it come oh whoa the Gil Jim oh boy oh boy Jim like I can’t see Tom Brady what About oh hey what did he say on the uh on the Cowboys 49ers always cracks me up he’s like Jim goes oh and he slides down the clock is ticking they have no timeouts no they’ll have plenty of time Jim oh I don’t know Jim God I don’t

Think they’re gonna get it off hey you got to start right ring Kenny’s mic you gotta start riding Kenny’s mic pause yeah you you gotta go Kenny Kenny goes from whispering to screaming in a heartbeat we got to start staying on it no we got it the ter no

That that’s that’s good but I’m just we got to stay on top of Kenny’s mic moving forward that’s that’s a tough look term for it Jesus well I’ll I’ll I’ll do it I’ll be quiet myself no you you you can’t adjust I’ll be quiet I’ll just be quiet

If that’s the term for it that’s fine do that just be quiet that’s fine then just be quiet we’ll take that good Lord um all right well that’s that’s dead we’ve tricked all that off so let’s just keep moving I posed the question before the commercial break are the Celtics the

49ers of the NBA is this their best chance to win the NBA Finals not their last that’s what we were trying to Define with the San Francisco 49 it doesn’t mean this is the 49ers last chance to win the Super Bowl doesn’t mean this is the Celtics

Last chance to win the NBA Finals but there’s no Joe MAA rookie year there’s no you know you got Jaylen Brunson there’s no contracts looming uh uh you’ve got you know a play along a potential Allstar in Derek white you’ve had a a noteworthy season of Chris Taps porzingis you’re

The best team it feels like by a large margin in the Eastern Conference in the league or particularly in the Eastern Conference is this the Celtics best opportunity to win the NBA finals and the great words of Bill Walton it’s too early to tell I see I see what you’re

Saying the only the only thing that makes me say I don’t put him necessarily in the same group is the ages of Tatum and brown they’re in the same group as the 49s yeah because KD KD’s on the end of his prime I’ll say that Um Trent Williams the end of you know his his run and things that mcaffrey I could see mcaffrey after two you know years where he great health and Top Flight now we could be starting to enter the end of his prime right uh Tatum and brown that’s they about they still yeah

But you know the way the league is though like do you continue to ride this out if you’re not winning a championship yeah I would they always have a chance with they always have a chance with those two out there but I do think like y’all just tried to break

Them up like a year ago who who’s y’ well not y’all but there wasn’t the conversation always it’s got to be Tatum m brown I I thought about it well they had to get one of them out of there why do you do that I’m just that’s

What I was saying why you that we’re talking about Tatum and brown not tat Brown SM one of the three like whatever one you choose is who you CH well you don’t you shouldn’t choose Tatum but between brown and smart one of them have to go so you could get somebody that can

Fit in there a little better you kind of connected like with the 49ers and all that because I think we’ve said before like this season like the ners have CMC you traded for cha Chase young like you made every move you can like pretty much maximized your entire rush I that’s what

The Celtics are right now like going out and getting porzingis like that’s just everything for them is like the Christian Caffrey yeah he’s he’s exactly that for them I was just watching them last night man they’re so good and I like what is the excuse for

Them not winning this year like how like I just look not excuse like like as if like you’re you’re like they have to win the but I just look at them like they’re better than Philly and I think Philly’s facing a lot of uphill challenges like they’re G trying to keep

Joel together for this run I’m confident they’re better than Milwaukee so that’s that’s where that’s where my opinion they they differ from the 49ers I thought when the 49ers it’s it’s the same thing I’ll say the same thing for the Super Bowl when they don’t turn the

Ball over they play a clean game I don’t think there’s anybody that messes with them I don’t think there’s anybody that is on the level the same level as the 49ers when they play a clean game I think there’s a couple of teams that could get with Boston even if

Boston is playing a aame okay I think Milwaukee can I think the Clippers can and I think the Nuggets might be able to so this is their best chance but I I don’t I don’t I personally Jesse might feel differently I don’t I don’t feel

The sense of urgency to get it done this year with Boston that I do with the 49ers I’ll push back on that one a little bit I think Tatum Tatum’s been the one talking all year kind of like nothing else matters besides like getting a ring and I think that’s a different

Conversation yeah and I think too with um the teams like I think Boston’s probably the clearcut best team in the league right now I don’t think Milwaukee is on their level right now but I do think the Clippers and Nuggets can give them trouble in a series but I think

Boston still wins those for whatever that’s worth and and what you said is a little bit of a a different conversation because I do think that’s where they’re similar to what I’m saying like it all this all this stuff that’s going on it don’t matter only thing that matters is

Winning a NBA championship that’s it I’m not going to get any accolades for getting to the finals I’m not gonna get any accolades or satisfaction uh from from winning an MVP and you know doing all this if I don’t win a championship and that’s where it similar to the 49ers

Where all that stuff I would say it every time the Eagles win I’d have fun on Monday you know I mean after that it doesn’t matter Cowboys win have fun on Monday doesn’t matter none of this matters the only thing that matters is where they’re at right now and being

Able to finish that job off and I think Boston’s is in that same boat they also have postseason failures right like as like with the core group you have the the the the yeah the difference is the Celtics have gone through Brad St not you know not all coaching firings

Are the same but still they’ve gone from Brad Stevens to em adoka to now Joe MAA whereas this has all kind of been under the Kyle shanan era the Kyle Shanahan John Lynch run um I just was watching them last night like I it feels like they’re the and these are probably two

Separate things saying the Celtics are the team to beat in my opinion feel like the Celtics are the team to beat for this year’s NBA championship that’s different than saying you know this might be their best shot to win the NBA championship them better than I do I it

Might be their best I mean what’s the it’s the it’s like I think the Christian mcaffrey christops porzingis tyin is interesting because what was the the the the thing about Christian mcaffrey well if he could stay healthy he could be really you know impactful for you well he’s been

Fantastic in in in that regard in San Francisco Kristof porzingis was well when he’s on the floor he could probably be really effective again he’s been mostly healthy for the Boston Celtics and it’s like man I just I think there’s a lot of parallels there uh maybe it was a bit of

A reach but like I I just I mean I see a couple different I could see the Celtics I don’t think it’s a reach at all yeah I I I could see the Celtics using the 49ers as motivation not not the best chance to win the NBA fins that’s that’s fan and

Media conversation that’s not locker room conversation but like look at how this group went through adversity pulled everything together uh you know found Stars maybe their star that they found the Brock p is Derek white you know what I mean and you you’re you’re you’re led

By your you know your tatums and your Browns and porzingis is tying this all this this whole thing together and Joe moula is leading the way and I I can I can see how how you can find motivation in what San Francisco did but I think in

The locker room they made like quiet I don’t think they talk about it but if you ask Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown in a in an honest moment they’ll say this probably our best chance not our last chance like you mentioned but it’s our best chance like we we’ve got everything

We need part of winning part of winning for both teams kills questions like you lose it’s like well this poor zingis thing didn’t work was getting rid of Marcus a mistake do we need to make a move this off season do like what do we have to do whereas when

You win it’s like oh just run it back or maybe we fine-tune this or fine-tune that it was the question the thing we had about the San Francisco 49ers where I was like are we sure this is it like this this is it yeah because they’re

Gonna be good next year they might even be the favorite next year the further along you go the more likely you are to be the favorite like maybe Kansas City will be the favorite but San Francisco is going to be second like when you look at the odds the second to fourth quarter

Buzzer goes off a week from Sunday the 49ers will be one of the top no worse I would think than three or four teams right they uh they they they’re set up to have a nice to continue to have a nice little run and have nice

Opportunities um but man this this a and and part of it too was like part of it was getting to the Super Bowl you know because once everything started to lay out and the playoffs and you get home filled and everything it’s like man look

At the NFC like you got to get through the NFC now this time you know it was pretty weak and part of it was like man you just you gotta get there at the very least in some people’s eyes and they were able to do that but then you got

Your TCS who like ain’t good enough you got to win it and I understand that I I absolutely get that this is a this is a great opportunity this is a great opportunity take sorry no I was going to say did you see that clip I had tweeted out I guess it

Was on inside the NFL with Bosa and party in the locker room did I thought that was fascinating and B basically like what Nick Bosa was saying and for anybody who didn’t see it it was just basically um well I think you’re looking for I’ll pull it up I still have your uh

Your account I thought that was like great stuff like I thought it was so fascinating to hear uh number one professional athletes speak that candidly but somebody like Nick Bosa some of the things he said in there speak that open and candidly and real about the situation I thought this was great the

You my mind all of us bro all it’s crazy did you think you’d be this good think I know but should you like how much confidence did you have that was the second of theft I lack confidence part about the game but you know what that was that was

Where a guy drinks too much and gets really emotional at the party and you just want the interaction to end that was Brock pie Brock py wanted this interaction to end so bad and the ultimate way to end an interaction like this and just get away as quickly as possible I’m out of

Here but but salute like that the one that got me was he’s like you know did you always have confidence he’s like I was a second pick in the and I didn’t I didn’t always have confidence it’s just you forget that sometimes like these guys who are you know always been great

Like always at every level been great they reached their goal and I know I take it for granted like Nick Bosa what you mean you like confidence Nick Bosa but it’s real like it’s it’s absolutely real and uh and I also like the aspect

And I miss it in sports and in a team setting when teammates are genuinely happy or in awe of another teammate right like he looked at at Brock as his team it’s like man you’re you’re hella good and you’re always like in in as an athlete you’re always like

Um in competition to a certain degree like I’m not gonna say nobody better than me you know what I mean I’m not gonna in anything almost anything like if you’re competitive and not even Athletics like I ain’t gonna say nobody better than me like I’m just I’m not I

Can’t do it you know I mean I’m the best this and that this and that but sometimes you come across your teammates or something like that and you’re like man you’re the truth like you’re really good this is what you do is a amazing and I’m genuinely happy to say that

You’re really good or you won this game for us or you did this and that for like whatever I just love that about sports you know I think about uh somebody hit I remember I had a game-winning shot um in college and I hit the shot

And it was great hitting the shot myself but looking at my teammates on the bench like lose it like be so happy that I did this and thinking about other gamewinners that some somebody else has hit and me being so happy that they hit it and all this other stuff it’s just it

Maybe it’s not coming off the right way or it’s it’s convoluted but I just love that aspect of SP Sports when you’re te genuinely happy for the achievements of somebody else like really really excited about it it’s it’s the dopest thing uh tickets right now depending on

What site what secondary site you go to to get in the building range I think tick pic had the lowest seat value to get in the building at $10,000 I think I saw one on it was either SeatGeek or Vivid Seats uh lowest price to get in this was all before fees

By the way uh was at about $7,200 wow to get into a legion Stadium that’s kind of crazy I mean you think the the they won’t I mean we’re just talking about what they should do but should the NFL like have some type of section those bleeds are not for season ticket

Holders that is Affordable that is like put a cap on it at and this is sounds crazy too but put a cap at it at $2500 but those people like they could resell it yeah there’s no way bomber does bombers like you can’t resell you know figure out the technology he has you

Can’t resell or you can’t resell for more than market value or that’s actually not that hard to do I think some people make it out to be rocket science it’s not hard to stop resale stuff like I’ll use like Adele Adele’s a perfect example you know trying to get a tickets

To that’s not an easy it’s one it’s it’s diff you can resell them but there’s like a process to it uh and the process cost you which it’s makes it like it’s a more difficult process for everybody um but it can be but there is a way like

The what bomber’s doing with the Clipper ball like it can it can easily be done they make it more complicated than it has to be just because some of these people get some of these leagues get some of the resale stuff depending on the app is there anything you would pay

That amount of money to see like like if you had the money if well you know like in real life like if you had the money money’s no object is there if money’s no option yeah oh there’s a bunch of things I’d go to the Super Bowl if money didn’t

Matter like no I don’t mean regularly like I like so like if you you get one you get one to like it could be what you know whatever an absurd amount of money like a $10,000 ticket you get one would it be spent on a Super Bowl for the

49ers yeah and I don’t know the outcome you don’t know no of course not cuz I was going to say like like Kings game seven in the NBA Finals somewhere like maybe i’ do something like that because I the king is a little different because it’s the hometown but other than that

Like yeah the 49ers 49ers Super Bowl absolutely more than more than like an artist more than yeah concerts I I don’t I don’t Yeah because sometimes I get in my own head about concerts as much as I enjoy them I’m just looking at somebody perform the songs that I can hear on my

Here anytime oh that’s not the same it’s not the same no it’s not the same but it Janet was 12 feet from me that’s not the same as it’s not the same as listening to my iPad my my my my playlist it it it’s it’s it’s but yeah I don’t I don’t

Feel that way about music or theater or anything like that I’d pay for Mike if Mike was still here I’d pay for Mike yeah he’s the only one though there isn’t another individual I would pay and I also wouldn’t pay $10,000 to get in the

Building if I’m 10 if it’s $10,000 I I’m I’m I’m I want to see the foot hit the ground when he moved like yeah that’s another thing $10,000 like not getting the building I don’t have to be front row of on the 50 yard line but give me

Some decent seats where I’m I’m I’m part of you know the the inner workings of that crowd or something like that give me something decent yeah I think that’s the only thing I would pay for I don’t think I would pay for like there’s not a game

Like a football game I don’t think there’s anything I would pay for besides that I can’t even pay for that because Mike’s not here no more yeah sporting event yeah like if I like if it was if it was 10,000 and it wouldn’t hurt me like I’m still living

Life I’m cool bills paid for all this other stuff Niner Super Bowl yeah Niner Super Bowl that’ be the one yeah that’ be the one be a damn shame if they lost though it’ be Dam $10,000 to get into the V that’s the other thing I can’t reconcile

Imagine paying that money to watch your team play see that’s what I can’t wrap my head around if I don’t all them people that flew to Levi Stadium the most inconvenient place on the planet that’s a killer oh that is a killer oh like ca y’all ain’t Eminem same thing

Happened Eminem got in his Charter and just left like y’all man that y’all had to drive out and same thing brutal um Niners in the NFC championship game two years ago them people went down to Sofi oh yeah and and the lose like that oh that’s tough yeah that’s tough I

Remember um real quick I remember uh My Guy Brian Murphy Murphy Max show he talks about how in 93 they drove down to see game 162 Giants Dodgers thinking Giants are about to win the division and they got destroyed it was like 13 to one you to drive the six hours that’s so

Tough that’s Bonte and Philly last year yeah yeah yeah Bon but was out there yeah we have to ask Bonte what it’s like when money’s No Object you just fly around yeah he could he could he could fill us in on what that’s like we’ll come back uh we’ll talk to James ham

Kings basketball tonight James ham joins us and any tears being shed in Portland tonight we got that coming up here next on Sacramento sports leader ESPN3 20 Carlton that’s a good question a Top Flight boxing fight I think I think boxing that’ be kind of fire yeah bo be kind of fire

Best energy a big a big boxing fight that’s the best eny maybe I agree I don’t even love it the way you do but I agree Whitney yeah I got you Prince I’ve actually seen Prince I’ve seen Prince like I’ve saw him in Oakland I saw him at Arco I saw him in

Reno so I think I’ve seen Prince I might have seen him at Arco twice I think I only saw him at Arco once so I’ve seen but I’ve seen Prince at least three times phenomenal every show was different every show was different I’d love to see him again I saw one of his

Last shows Oakland very very last seat uh in Oakland there you go I’ve been to a big UFC by before I believe that yeah Manny I was there too I was there too yeah there too yeah and so that’s the scary thing Johnny G right like that’s the scary thing about the fights is they could be over

Quick which I guess in its own way would be really exciting like if I like if you saw Mike uh Mike Tyson knock someone out in 15 seconds i’ probably be a static over that yeah Trojan um that was the piano one yeah that was the piano one show was incredible absolutely

Incredible yeah the Olympics was amazing the Olympics was amazing but I can also like just from from my perspective I don’t really need to go again like it was cool I don’t need to go again so Russell I did that h a long time ago when I think I had a

Set well it was ring it was a seventh row seat this is crazy this two it was Wrestlemania 2000 a [ __ ] trash WrestleMania $400 for the ticket I I was n 20 like I had no responsibilities I was like 20 years old I had saved the money and went

Um it was dope but like now that that same exact seat’s probably like $2,000 Prince was one of one have y’all seen the um I might mention this on the air have you all seen the um I actually put it in my my notes cuz I watched it last night the greatest

Night in pop on Netflix have you guys seen that you think they’re I think you are are you did you mean to did you mean to say Seth facing Drew we were actually talking about that before the show yeah I think that’s the direction to go okay we continued to talk about concerts

During the commercial break a couple people brought up Prince I’ve been lucky enough to see Prince a couple of times like three times including aming one of his last shows uh in Oakland but I’m guessing you haven’t seen this right before we left yesterday complex

Stopped me and and was like hey did you see the We Are the World documentary and I was like Yeah from like 20 years ago I’ve owned that forever he’s like no no no there’s a new one and it’s on Netflix I was like oh

Okay have you seen it I haven’t seen it I heard about it okay it’s fire yeah well I don’t know if you will like it the same way I like it like I love it obviously I love Michael Jackson so watching you know watching that thing play out was tremendous but there’s a

There was a there there was a part in it that I thought of you because we were joking about the Huey Lewis Michael there’s this interaction that you brought up and you didn’t know it was huy Lewis you were like do you remember that clip where Michael’s like staring

At this guy singing at the singing the line well there’s a full context to that that part of the video okay so obviously they tell the story of how the song comes together and obviously like this they don’t they don’t harp on this but what a like tremendous like tribute it

Is to Quincy Jones you know the night of the American Music Awards in 1985 he calls every major star like on the planet and says I need you at this recording studio and they’re all like oh it’s Quincy okay like you got what are we doing we’re doing we’re doing a a

Song for charity all right cool we’re we’re we’re there but there was a couple of really interesting things one Cindy loer I I like I enjoy Cindy loer she has such a unique sound and I didn’t know this until this documentary that there was a argument between Cindy Lopper or Madonna and

That’s why Madonna’s not on the song they didn’t want them both they wanted one or the other then there’s the clip that you were laughing at like a week ago of Michael watching huie you know hit his line because there’s a sequence where it goes when you’re down and out and you

Need and it goes Michael huie Lewis Cindy laer that’s the order of the song and that’s how they record it it goes Michael Huey Lewis Cindy laer and line uh so they so they record it the first time and I forgot who the woman is at

The at the at the very end of it because it’s it’s four people and I I I’m not as familiar with the woman at the end of it but Lio stands up in the back and he’s kind of engineering the whole thing and he stands up in his back and he goes

Okay let’s do it again but everyone say uh the last line together instead of you know just her by herself and huie he’s like and he’s telling the story of like I’m scared to death because Cindy loer has this crazy like octave and I was

Like I don’t think I can’t do it oh he saying he like I don’t think I can do it but he’s not going to say that in front of like every amazing musician on the Planet yeah and he’s he’s kind of like looking around and Michael sees it and

Goes he he he act he does it for him and he says go stand and he does it and he goes oh that’s how to do it okay so the reason Michael’s watching it that way yeah is it’s an impromptu part of the song and he’s

Looking to see if huie Lewis can hit the note the way Michael told him to do it that’s why he has that look on his face and it’s that’s a much nicer uh uh explanation yeah because you made it seem like huie Lewis was a jackass and

Michael was like who is this idiot but there’s a second component to that there’s a second and this this is this was the best part that wasn’t huie Lewis’s line it was Prince’s oh and Prince didn’t show up and so I always knew Prince wasn’t a part of the

Record and it was always framed is the Prince Michael thing was real and like Isiah Michael yeah like it’s it was it was a it was a real thing and I guess they you know it shows them they recorded from like 10:30 p.m. to about 8:00 am the next

Morning and they’re taking breaks and they you know they show this amazing part with Harry bellafonte which has been out there for years and there’s a scene it’s kind of sad because Sheila E is there and Sheila’s gets on the phone and is talking to Prince and she’s like

You need to come down here this is amazing everybody’s here and Quincy goes let me talk to him so Quincy’s talking to Prince and Prince says Okay I want a guitar solo and Quincy’s like yeah that that doesn’t like that doesn’t fit the the song He’s like I

Want a guitar solo and I want it to be in a different room where no one else is at and Quincy’s like no like that’s not what we’re doing we’re all in the same room we’re all recording at the same time we’re all together and Prince goes

I guess he says something like I I don’t know and they they hang up the phone and so they keep asking Sheila E do you think he’s coming do you think he’s coming and Sheila E realizes you guys don’t want me here you brought me here

Because you thought if I was here Prince would come and they had a line for Prince and it was the line huie Lewis had and they were like who’s going to do this line and they gave it to him those were considered those solos those half

Lines yeah are the solos of the song everybody else just came in to do the chorus and there’s another funny part Stevie Wonder wants everybody to do the Swahili chant which is available on one of the it’s well the funny part huie Cindy the funny part is Wayan

Jennings is there who’s like the country you know the good old boy he leaves Stevie W’s out here singing Swahili and they show the the camera catches him he’s looking around and you just see him he walks down the steps and just leaves oh it’s tremendous you have to see it you gotta

Check that out you have to see it it’s so good it’s so good I’m so sad Prince is not a part of that song man but it’s it’s it’s crazy it’s so good I’m thinking I’m you know hearing the story and I’m thinking man they both not here

That’s crazy yeah well yeah and Lionel Lionel talked about that at the end because he’s he was in the recording studio and he’s like the the scenes of Michael by himself because Michael didn’t go to the amas he went straight to Quincy studio and he recorded his part before anyone got

There because he had the We Are the World solo part and they’re obviously filming all of this for the videos and the documentaries and all of that stuff seeing him in the studio like because there’s no there’s nothing except you you don’t hear anything except him singing man they had

A man something that came across my timeline the other day that was about a week or so ago of first it was Michael it was a video of him like practicing the Moonwalker something he started pop locking and everything and I was like this dude he could dance like

He could he could move like it was just him like in a not even in a studio looked like a a room and he was just moving right and then they played him at mtown 25 and to this day I’m like that’s amazing that is sick how he did that and then

Because they said the whole thing was Mike doing it his first and last moonwalk and then they showed him in 2011 whatever it was when he did it I I don’t know what the what it was for but he hits it the same I said Oh you mean

2001 maybe 20 I don’t know yeah he I don’t think he was here in 2011 oh man he killed that there I said 2001 was the New York concert maybe that’s that and he hit that moonwalk again and spin and all that it’s is it’s still to this day

Just captivates me if somebody ever if it ever comes across it’s like Jason Williams uh highlight tape if it comes across the timeline I’m watching and I’m retweeting every single time moon walk every time yeah every time yeah some y’all are getting your Stevie Wonder jokes off there’s a story that they tell

Where Stevie and Ray Charles are they go off to this area together and are going over their their respective solo parts and Ray says I have to go to the bathroom and this is this is like remember this is a really long session so a lot of people are like they’re

Telling the story of it’s hot and people are on edge and they just look for different moments that would make them laugh and kind of loosen the tension so Stevie is Stevie and Ray Charles are over there and Ray says you know I got to go to the restroom and Stevie grabs

Him by the arm and says okay I’ll show you and he leads him to the bathroom and I guess they all see it and I think it was Quincy that said that’s the blind leading the blond right there oh it’s terrific it’s terrific it’s on Netflix now I think it’s called

The greatest night in pop but if you like stuff like this man you will you you will you will absolutely love it it’s tremendous stuff definitely got tremendous yeah James ham gonna join us here in just a heartbeat uh Dame Lillard makes his return to Portland tonight did

A really good interview with uh Malik Andrews yeah really really really good conversation and I mean I’m I’m a sucker for that stuff I’m I’m anxious to see uh absolutely what it look like looks like yeah I want to see you know I don’t I don’t expect anything other than a

Standing ovation and and him to get showered with Che oh yeah um and him to show respect to the fans and everything else like that I you know I think it’s going to be a very great night for Blazers fans and Dame Lillard but you

Know same way I want to see it I W to uh soak it all in myself Dame and Doc talked about stepping into situations that have like Championship aspirations I think Doc’s line was I wouldn’t wish this on anyone and I think Dame had a similar sentiment which

He echoed to Malika how difficult it is to walk into a situation where you can’t learn grow or figure things out like the Bucks are expected to win an NBA championship Doc Rivers For Better or Worse is expected to take the Bucks to an NBA title and I understood both of

Their I but I understood their point though that’s a really difficult situ situation to walk into now of course the flip side of that is you can walk onto the Pistons exactly that’s what I wouldn’t wish on anybody like that’s that is demoralizing you think okay that that can crush your

Spirit as an athlete to do you don’t think it could crush your spirit being at that high level too no I mean I think there’s pressure involved and that that’s something that could stress you out as well but I think you you get up knowing that you have an opportunity to win

I think is a lot different than knowing you have no chance of winning well Joel’s out tonight I don’t think that’s surprising I did I actually I’m sorry not tonight to today’s Wednesday he’s out tomorrow yeah Joel embiid from Adrian W Janowski is out for Thursday’s game versus Utah uh he’ll receive

Further evaluation on his knee in the next 24 hours of course Jonathan kaminga fell on his knee last night in the 76ers Warriors match up that the Warriors won I don’t think we mentioned that Warriors got a D in the building too well how demoralizing

Do you think it is to be 30 and 13 and fired or think about Dwayne Casey Dwayne Casey was a 60- win coach shoot Mike Brown was a 60 win coach and was fired I don’t think that’s demoralizing I just think that’s just the the nature

Of the Beast like I I once again well well for those guys maybe it’s not there established but like uh what about it that was that was Adrien Griffin’s first 43 games as a head coach was 30 and 13 he’s sucks but I would he had champ but

But I think that’s what Dame and Doc are talking about but I I think and maybe I’m too caught up on the wording like I wouldn’t wish this on anybody like it’s this big old burden doc do you rather rather coach the bucks or the Pistons like you’d rather coach the

Bucks I don’t do doc Impressions I don’t know if he was waiting for me to answer you really that’s not not bad not bad I can’t I can’t I can’t do it I don’t want to coach the PES IIT I don’t even like Detroit I yeah I wouldn’t yeah I think they’re

In the business they’re in the business trying to be winners and win championships you would never want to be where the where the Pistons are ever you would take not saying it’s it doesn’t come with its own it’s like it’s like saying would you rather be a 10 you got

$10 million in the bank or seven oh like yeah there’s burdens that come with having being a millionaire and stresses and everything it doesn’t make stress go away forever but you’d rather take that other being you know with no money yeah I guess it’s just all the I

Guess it’s just the Outlook like so it’s so that’s what but like I’m not the money and I’m and I’m I’m I’m I’m I can understand I’m hyper caught on the terminology but and those were the words like that’s not that’s not a what he that’s what he said the Seahawks found

Their head coach Raven yeah uh if I had1 million I wouldn’t I wouldn’t wish this on anybody what yeah but well it’s I I get your analogy I just don’t think it works because like what are your well forget it let’s bring James in here King’s Insider James James this is this is

Centers on Doc Rivers and Dame Lillard both said or or maybe Dame just like pared what doc said about you know I wouldn’t wish this on anybody walking into a situation where like there’s only one result and it’s to win a championship like walking into a situation where you are expected to win

A championship and you’re expected to win a championship right now I think both were just illustrating how difficult that is and of course it it’s sparked the conversation of would you rather go to the bucks or the Pistons like because that’s a different level of problems that you’re dealing with on on each

Front yeah I’d rather go to the Bucks because at least you got a shot you know I think for me that’s where I would be um I wouldn’t want that Piston’s job at all and I get why he took it I I even with Monty I I don’t even think he took

That just for himself right I think what do you mean we know exactly why he took it no said don’t want this job hey here’s a couple million more per year you know what this doesn’t look so bad maybe should have this conversation with Monty Williams because he has the 10

Million and he coaches the right right yeah but what I mean by that is he didn’t want that job but what he did was he set a new standard for NBA head coaches which has now become the norm and which will become the norm and if he

Doesn’t take that money we don’t know when that money initially when it finally hits like that and so that’s what I mean by I agree he didn’t want that job at least I it didn’t look like it he wanted that job but when the money got so high you’re looking at it like

Okay this is going to take care of me and my family forever but also if we sort of break the the glass ceiling on what an NBA head coach can make then all of my friends behind me will be able to break this ceiling with me and so I I

Think that that’s part of it you know it’s not you’re seeing papovich get the big money you you see spoler get the big money but it really does start with this like really really high contract that uh that he was able to that Monty was able to

Sign with Detroit even a guy like Mike Brown we don’t know exactly what Mike Brown makes which is different than normal but I’m gonna put him in like the neighborhood of $6 million do a year five six million maybe I’m off but that’s kind of where the kings were at

With Dave joerger and with Luke Walton and uh I would be surprised if that’s not what he makes and then he goes on to win coach of the year and there’s another guy out there surprised if Mike Brown was paid in the neighborhood of Dave jger and Luke Walton that is not

Yeah that is absolutely not the caliber of Coach Mike Brown is all respect to Dave Jagger Dave Jager was a a good coach Luke Walton was a completely unproven coach Mike Brown was a multi-time well well maybe not he’s multi now he was a coach of the year he

Was a 60- win coach the last time he was on a sideline yeah I don’t know what he makes for sure but that’s just like the ballpark and most head coaches there’s a certain level of head coach that makes at five to7 million doll range that before Monty gets his big deal there’s

Not a lot more money than that out there I mean there are certain coaches that get paid really well but you know I I remember back that when my first head coach was Paul Westfall and I think he made like 1.75 million because he would

He took the money and no one else like would take the the money to to coach for that little um so we’ve seen it progressively get higher in Sacramento but even throughout the league but still like a solid like run-of-the-mill to good NBA head coach is like five to six

Million bucks so I don’t know that like that Mike Brown is gonna in his intro like his first contract in Sacramento would make more than that but again I could be way off if I’m way off I mean I’m way off by like million or two you’re way off

You’re going to get a phone call about this yeah let me hold it down the mic um either way Mike’s not starving I think that’s the no um we started off with talking about Dame going back to Portland Daman and Lillard going back to Portland and I

Think we’re both in agreement myself and and D that you know it should be you know a wonderful night for everybody involved cheers Standing Ovation all this other stuff uh for Dame Le going back to Portland you you feel the same way that um it’ll be a a very warm

Welcome for him back in Portland tonight I think so I think it could have been a really ugly return um especially if he’s playing the Sacramento Kings tonight in a Miami Heat jersey uh so you know like just the way that that was playing out

But the fact that he went to a place that allowed the the Blazers to actually get some value yeah I think it it definitely um you should welcome him back because like at a certain point if a player can’t win there and his career is winding down which is exactly what’s

Happening with Dame then you have to be okay as a fan group with that player going in and finishing their career where they might have an opportunity and I don’t think anyone in Portland is is like lost sight of the fact that this team isn’t going to compete this year

They’re not going to compete next year they probably won’t compete the year after that but they might um but for right now this was the best thing for a player who had been there for a long time and I I didn’t feel that way when

He was kind of strong arming his way out and trying to force his way to Miami but now I I you know that we’re at after the completion of the deal and he’s he’s in Milwaukee and and there was you know the the Trailblazers didn’t have to take on

Bad contracts or players that they didn’t want in exchange for him uh I think it all worked out the way it probably should have worked out and good for Dame for for keeping his his eyes and his mind open to going to Milwaukee instead of just Miami well James let’s talk about the

Miami Heat and in the Sacramento Kings tonight um we have struggled through most of the day to kind of make heads or tailes of this game we we don’t like it’s the heat are in the midst of their longest losing streak under Eric spola uh you got Sacramento Kings playing well

Right now four straight you know regardless of you know how you dissect the Memphis game it was still a win and it was the four straight one and you you you gotta think that both teams are coming out hyper aware of the other one yeah I mean you hope the Kings don’t

Come come out with like the South Beach flu um that’s that’s always a problem there and I mean what of the Kings won like five times since Miami became a team in the NBA uh in Miami the Kings have only beat them like five times

There um this is a big game for the Kings you know every game is Big when you’re trying to compete for a playoff spot but this is a game that number one would secure a road trip would give you a you’d start four and0 on a seven game

Trip so you guaranteed to finish above 500 it’ be the game that put you a 10 games over 500 which is a big Mark in the NBA uh it would help you build you know confidence and and keep the momentum rolling and you’re playing a team that

Isn’t it isn’t it strange where like if you battled this team who’s lost seven straight you would feel so much better beating this team than barely squeezing by the the Memphis Grizzlies who are missing like half their team and this is the team that’s lost seven straight so I

Mean you don’t want to be the team that that uh that lets Miami off the hook for sort of their spiral here um but it’s also this is this is a big moment for the Kings they need to keep pushing they need to find a way to get to 10 games so

They can get to 15 so they can get to 12 but games over 500 and you know every every time you take a step back it’s it’s so difficult to climb back so again like the difference between winning and losing tonight it’s going to 10 games

Under over 500 or it’s going to eight games over 500 uh if you lose and so uh I definitely think that this is a game that you got to Circle and say if we can get this one this is already a successful trip now we’re playing with

House money let’s go get it and that’s where I’m at with this team Dame Dame loves playing the house money right that’s I hate I hate that term but that’s fine just saying if the money’s in front of me it’s mine doesn’t belong to Sky River Casino anymore it’s now

Mine yeah I lose it I’m not less I I don’t have less money than when I walked in but I still lost the money that’s that’s dumb retire that term with dog fighting dog fight and what was the what was the other oh beating a dead horse

Stop beating a dead horse oh killing two birds with one stop stop stop with all the murder of the animals analogy and let’s retire house money as well the horse dead yeah when I was young I used to gamble all the time and I had a serious

Grinder uh of a of a poker player or a blackjack player come up I we were playing next to each other and he said hey go cash that out and I’m like well I’m still playing he goes no no go cash at out bring $40 back start over and

Start building again he’s like trust me it’s the only way you’re going to get out of here with anything and I’m like all right so there is something about like making it real money again and not have it be house money and then you walk

In you’re like oh I don’t think I want to reach back into my pocket and pull more cash out that’s it’s a big difference reaching in your pocket and pulling more chips out and uh it was it was a wise moment it it taught me a lot

See you learn there it is you learn now the Kings need to get a victory go cash out and and get ready for Chicago Indiana yeah or Indiana yeah sorry Indiana then Chicago go to Indiana with $40 in their pocket that’s that’s right well they’ll be lucky if they got

That after two nights in Miami so we’ll see I gonna say that that is that that is that is that isn’t even NBA lunch PDM man that PM oh that pm and it’s an envelope of cash that’s most of us most of us could live off that pum and just be perfectly

Comfortable just the extra stuff they give you we’d be fine I was remember A-Rod talking about the pm he would get bro you just signed a $300 million contract my PM these dud get $80 lunch budgets and I have to submit a request to get my $20 in parking from downtown back [Laughter]

Damn damn shame the way they treat us James another thing I had talked about um with the Kings and Heat their situation was I find it hard I don’t want to say to believe but it’s just you know the Heat have lost seven games in a

Row I think the heat are good what they just gonna mess around and lose eight games in a row and like Daman talked about it’s gonna set a new record here like it sounds crazy but another reason why this win would be impressive for the

Kings is I feel if they were able to get this win over a Miami team that would be desperate to get a win it’d be a level of them imposing their will on a team and it feels like that’s something we haven’t really seen too much this year

Where they say yeah we know you’re hungry we know you’re desperate but we’re the better team we’re GNA impose our will and come out of Miami with a victory and it it would it would say a lot to me if they were able to get this

Win tonight no I think it would too I mean no matter what this is a dangerous team we all know that it doesn’t matter what the regular season record is when they get to the playoffs all bets are off and this is a team that just can

Make it can make their way to the NBA finals at any time and I don’t know how that is because a lot of times the talent level doesn’t seem like it’s there but I’d also say there’s some incentives in this game right um like the the BAM out of Bio dearn Fox Malik

Monk connection is real like these guys they want to play against each other uh they’re all college teammates at at Kentucky and they all win the 2017 NBA draft together uh so that’s one group and then I would say that if you’re sabonis like you want to walk in there

And put on a show make sure that people know why you were the the third team all-nba Center and Bam adab bio wasn’t because you know there are a lot of people who out there who believe that the wrong guy you know got the kn there

And every time these two play each other it just seems like they get in foul trouble super quick and it’s like a really weird game but that’s a big deal like you need to go in there and show up and and put on a a good show so I think

That there’s a lot of things going on here between these two teams and that that always adds a little Intrigue to the night and I don’t think what we’re going to see is a disconnected Sacramento Kings team which we’ve seen you know I don’t know five or six times

A season where they just don’t feel like they’re mentally ready Monday yeah that was a disconnected basketball team no I totally agree they pulled together and you know they they did enough uh to get the job done um hammer do you think Mike has kind of corrected course a bit here

With this team and that it felt like early in the year he wanted Sacramento to be something he wanted the Kings to be a defensive team or at least significantly better uh defensively and maybe they got away from their offense maybe he got a little too cute with what

They were doing offensively and has kind of veered away from that and just you know we’ve spec is the Beam Team back like had they just kind of slowly gotten themselves back into the groove of where they were last year or are we seeing exactly what Mike wanted from

Jump yeah I mean it’s complicated right um Mike still wants to see a defensive minded team he still wants them to have a defensive of identity that they don’t start on game one of a playoff series that they’ve been cultivating the entire year and it still hasn’t developed uh

This team is you know they’re equal to or worse than they were last season um regardless of where they stand in the NBA uh just as far as like their their defensive rating is like right around where it was last year so it it’s tough because Mike is always going to have

This identity crisis that he’s a defensive coach that his team should play a certain way and that you know it’s a battle to teach and to to grow your team the entire season and right now I think you get 41 games in and it’s a little bit like the Harrison Barnes

Thing got 41 games in now it’s time to play basketball like the second half of the season is here now it’s time for us to buckle down and get as many wins as possible right now and however that has to happen is how they’re going to do it

There is no more waiting around for players or there’s no more um you know there’s there’s still development time here for Keegan Murray but it’s almost like you put it on hold for a little while and say you’re going to develop you’re you’re going to develop while

We’re trying to win every single game from here on out and that’s where I’m kind of at with this team I think that that Mike is doing his best to you know to use the players that he has and that’s going to be the case until he has

Different players and that’s you know right now it doesn’t look like the kings are are super close to anything as far as a transaction here but I would still say that like if they can improve the team between now and February 8th they’re going to and that’s the only way

I see a clear path where the Kings take a gigantic leap defensively as if they have one or two different players that would actually play minutes that would actually be better defensive players and help this team improve yeah I just you know I think I

Think they can improve with a deal but I think you can improve with a a deal for for what’s out there you know a bench piece or you know a role player like some type of Swing guy um I I think at its core this team scores they get

Buckets and I think that’s how you get the best out of this team and I understand the conundrum that Mike Brown may be in because he wants him to be more of a defensive minded team and more ser ious on the defensive end of the ball but it’s just not the Personnel you

Have right now you have a team that you know maybe when it gets to it they’ll lock up and play some defense but you know not 40 minutes of hell because it’s not Arkansas but 48 minutes a hell uh that’s that’s just not what this group

Is and I think what has happened and what needs to happen if it hasn’t is play to these guys strengths and if anything they probably get and it’s unfortunate but they probably get more willing to play play defense the more they’re scoring you know what I mean there’s there’s players like that and

You got to if you’re Mike Brown hey I need you to score like you do some people would say you can do whatever you want on the offensive end as long as you give me effort some type of effort on the defensive end and maybe that’s the

Promise he’s made with some of these guys yeah and you can definitely see like a player like Kevin herder defensively has gotten better as his shot has come back around like it’s just kind of the nature of the Beast U so many of these players are are very specific they they have

Been the leading scorer on every team that they’ve ever played for since the time they were like six years old and that’s just who they are as players and trying to make them into something different or trying to get them to learn a way of playing defense that is actually impactful and

Sustainable it’s just not super easy and you know that’s why it sometimes it is easier just to go out and get someone else but you know I know that sounds kind of like coldblooded but you know if you really want to improve on the defensive end you know go out and get

Somebody else but but know that it might not work that just you know when you go out and get a player and you you you try to say hey well this guy does this so he’s going to help us like I always get back to like when the the 2002 2003 2004

Sac uh Sacramento Kings with um when they decided to bring in Keon Clark I’m like hey we need better defense let’s bring on a shot blocker and it didn’t just didn’t really work you know and and maybe they could have given it more time or maybe they gave it too much time but

Either way it wasn’t something that was noticeably different and change the outcome of the of the team I think if you’re gonna make a move at midseason and you’re G to give up like really heavily on the offensive and to get defensive minded players those defensive minded players better be able

To play offens as well and so you’re just playing in a different talent pool and that’s where I don’t think a French move helps you all that much because you know what if if you go add a better backup center I mean the backup center

On the Kings plays 13 minutes a night if you want a better backup point guard the backup point guard plays 13 minutes a night so what are we talking about how do you find a player that’s going to unseat the players that you already have and really make an impact and that it’s

Just very difficult to do unless you kind of go on with an all in move for you know a player who’s who’s like known as a better two-way player that can actually impact the game on both ends of the Court that’s the like the idea of bringing in a defensive player to turn

The defensive fortunes around of a team seems a bit silly to me like you look at what’s happening in New York right now OG and anobi the the the Knicks look incredible since ogan anobi arrived but that’s a defensive-minded coach with a team that is built to play defense like

This is not the same thing as bringing in a really good defender on a guy who or or onto a really good Defender onto a team that is known for their offense like if the Pacers added ogn and Obi what is that going to do to their defense nothing ogn and Obi better

Figure out a way to score if he gonna keep up I feel like that’s kind of like what we’re talking about here in Sacramento now it’s great that dearon has emerged as a really good Defender it’s great that Keegan is really really starting to become a powerful two-way

Player or at least a really powerful player on the defense end but that’s not something where you bring in you know in you know a defensive starart and it’s like oh all of a sudden boy this Kings team they were they were scoring 120 a week ago but now man they’re winning

Games holding teams to 90 that’s not like how many times have we already talked about James like there’s not a lot of Defense being played in this entire league right now oh not at all like this is a shocking turn that the league is taken like the only way again

The Kings set the record for the highest offensive rating of all time last year right now I think they’re seventh or eighth that that number from last year would be seventh or eighth in today’s NBA yeah whatever is happening right now is crazy they’re I mean how many we’ve

Seen 270s and a 60 point night in the last week and a half 270s and 260s Carl did it the same night Joel MB did it and then Devin Booker did it the night Luca donic did it oh yeah so yeah I mean to me that’s crazy I don’t know that that

Sence made sense at all yeah but there was a 60 and a 70 on the same night twice 270s and 260s in the span of a week yeah and I mean it just tells you that no one is playing defense however they’re calling the game it’s open a

Floodgate and and teams are taking advantage and um and like to be honest teams aren’t playing defense and you brought up OG and like OG is one of the rare guys that you know he’s averaging 15.6 points per game for the Knicks he’s a two-way player he’s a guy that yes

Will impact and will shut down a certain portion of you know will help out on the defensive end and if you would have had a guy like him and Keegan Murray side by side who are both playing really good defense then maybe you could improve the overall defense but it’s really hard to

Say let’s just say the Kings Trade for matis styel right matis thel is a great defender but you’re not going to play mati styel more than 18 to 20 minutes a night he’s just not good enough offensively and the fact that he’s hitting threes at a higher clip okay it

Wasn’t really sustainable it hasn’t held up all season long where he’s sitting out there hitting you know like 40 something percent of of six or seven threes a game that’s not who he is and so it’s really hard to trade an offensive piece for a defensive piece and just like continue the continuity

That you already have have and that’s where uh you know guys like like Jeremy Grant come in where you’re like okay he’s a really good defensive player and he might be able to fit in offensively maybe that works maybe he works as like a your version of ogan and Obi but how

Do you get him out of Portland and so there are all of these give and takes that you’re trying to go through and I would still hold on to the the fact that I don’t think this team like if you’re just going to play on the fringes if

You’re just going to be looking for an nth 10th man um like I don’t know that you need to make a move like you might as well wait till this summer if that’s where you’re going because that’s not going to change you from being like uh

Where they are right now to where you know like a third round of the playoff team like a Western Conference Finals team at least not in my opinion and I think that right now we could all say they could get bounced in the first round they could somehow make it to the

Second round we don’t know um I don’t think a move like that guarantees you that you get past that and what are you giving up in order to get there and unless it’s just like an easy deal where it’s like okay you know again Davon Mitchell or Chris warte you’re not in

The rotation like set in the rotation but we’re going to go get this player to switch something small maybe that works but it works as like improving You by a game or two on the whole season and that’s not really enough to make you know to move the needle in my opinion

We’ll come back we’ll talk a lot more with our Insider James ham here our Insider of the Insiders as we get ready for Kings Heat tonight here with d with KC on Sacramento sports leader ESPN 1320 secur and baggley I’m gonna acknowledge you one time because you do

This a lot and it drives me nuts but I kind of just fall back and let you get your [ __ ] off because you like to do it but you’ve sent like eight messages on this clearly you don’t listen so I’m going to walk this out for you I said

The Knicks have a defensive-minded coach with the defensive-minded roster that they built they brought OG and Obi to tie it all together why you’re firing off the silly [ __ ] about the Nick stats as if that’s not exactly what I just said I’m not sure I get this as your bag

And you like to do it but at least listen to what I’m saying before you spend five [ __ ] messages trying to make me look silly about what I didn’t say so go ahead get your [ __ ] off but like get your [ __ ] off about what I said and not what you think I

Said [ __ ] man [ __ ] like man it’s like you just s like what he say oh that’s F I’m look at these numbers look at these numbers oh [ __ ] listen OG tied it all together and he couldn’t have tied it together that cleanly exactly the point is he wouldn’t have done that in Indiana

He wouldn’t have done that here that’s Tom cido that’s the New York Knicks and that’s why hey you got to get a defensive player cool what like and and then what hope that dearen and and uh and Keegan and this fictitious defensive player all tie it together because

That’s what’s happening in New York that would not have happened in Indiana that would have not have happened in Sacramento I don’t know that it would have happened in very maybe Miami I don’t know that would have happened anywhere else other than New York for OG anobi that was the perfect situation for

Him hey look I think he would help the team like I think he would help the defense but it’s not going to make them like top three defense in the league like enough to what help the defense enough to what yeah be better defensively like okay what’s that worth

And you couldn’t get him that’s that’s the end of the day like and and the other thing I would say did you say we’re back is that we said no no I said no there’s that oh yeah my point would be this in order to get him you saw what

It took the only way to get him would have been to give up Keegan and now you’re looking at the same exact thing now you only have one Defender again you know there there is no pairing him with Keegan Murray because that’s not what they got they got a deal that was very

Specific and it landed them a 23 and a 24 year old starter and the only way you could have done that is to send them Keegan Murray and and something else and I still don’t know if that gets it done well you can’t have Keegan so for

All you smart asses shout out to the tribal Chief who brought Inn out today who brought in- and- out tribal Chief Aaron Oh Aaron went to Inn out and bought burgers for everyone well yeah he bought a certain amount of burgers and it was first come first serve so all

Right okay okay baggley ride that bro that’s what you do you’re the one you are the same guy who was in here repping Marvin Bagley for like three years right that’s you okay let’s go with you that’s right I’ll Trust your thinking that’s a good idea you’re you’re right you’re

Right you’re the tribal Chief securing de Bagley my bad you’re right you’re 100% right Kings would have been number one in defense with ogn and Obi because that’s the way the kings are built you’re right s send fire off some of those Marvin baggley tweets too while you’re in

Here boy you want to pull some let’s talk let’s talk Marvin securing to Bagley let’s talk we got beef this is fun here we go we’re coming back James Sky River Casino where we will be this Friday 32 Brew Street come through hang out live show uh into a watch party uh

Anders birthday yes indeed a different Pacers team than we saw earlier this year Tyrese Pascal cakam um happy birthday to our man Calvin uh that’s kyon’s 9-year-old son man they are uh in the car right now on the drive Calvin happy birthday Brody we appreciate you

Happy birthday big dog yes sir uh make sure make sure Dad and the whole family takes good care of you tonight um all right James let’s get back into uh the Kings heat we are eight days away from the trade deadline uh the narrative is starting to shift around players

Around the league suddenly suddenly guys aren’t worth two first round picks anymore oh that was overblown that’s that’s no that that no that was a media creation that’s not true you noted this a minute ago it’s been awfully quiet kings are winning basketball games they play they still

Play four games or five games five gam we just did this well they got yeah five games because there’s four left on the road trip and then um Detroit Detroit yeah at the golden one Center they still have five games before the trade deadline the Kings could be on a five

Game winning streak a five game losing streak a nine game winning streak or like some combination of the both but it feels like if you take the win streak out of the equation and look at recent play like Vibes are a little bit up is there a move worth making for

Sacramento yeah I think the question is how much how much does this little streak of games like does it change your idea of who they are and realistically it shouldn’t like if you’re going to make a move you’re making a move for today tomorrow and the

Year after you’re not making a move for today you’re not making a move because yeah I mean this team is good enough to make the playoffs that I don’t think I’m like breaking any news there but they are I mean so if you’re going to take a

Step forward and become a true Contender you probably got to make a move and that move could be a move that makes you take a step backwards to take take a step forward um it could it could end up just messing up everything towards the end of

This season and really putting you in a tail spin but if the the move is the right move for you long term then you risk that um but like look they’re on the clock like you only get like this small window here now where you’re trying to put something together and

You’re you’re competing with other teams for the same players and this is when we start to you know kind of all the the BS gets sifted out you know we I don’t think I ever believe not even once that some team was going to give two first

Round picks for kyak kusma I don’t care who it is there there wasn’t that deal out there so where do you go now and like if you’re if you’re Washington you made some commitments here and you need to go out there and probably back off of those commitments

And get back to team building and using the draft the right way and all that uh and see if you can turn some of these players into picks because like I don’t think you’re not going to be able to deal Jordan pole at least not that I can

Tell you’re not you know some of these guys you’re just not going to be able to deal Kyle kosma on that contract yeah you can deal that and you’re but you’re not getting what you thought you were or at least what you had somebody put out

There in the press that you were looking for so you know we talked about this before I left today you know you you want five million bucks for your house and you put it on the market and the best offer you get is three million

Bucks I hate to tell you you don’t have a $5 million house you have a $3 million house and it is what it is so at this point like hey if I’m the Kings I’m jumping right back into that conversation because maybe it is a right

Fit maybe it is a good player that can help your team maybe isn’t perfect but you know very few players in the league are and maybe this is a a deal where not only can you get in and and get a player that you need for not a huge price but

Also if something goes wrong and in two years it’s just not working out his declining skill contract just just just easy to move easy easy easy and what was the uh we don’t even talk like players finish their contracts all like yeah it starts to decline we

Just trade him true we don’t even talk about play signed a contract this summer he’s just eligible for a trade like two weeks ago right right true true dad um what was the trade that that you guys had talked about um uh on the Insiders I came in for the tail end of

It but to to get Kyle kosma in Sacramento potentially yeah I mean I think look if Washington is really looking to hit the reset button and I’m not sure what they’re doing because nothing that’s happened over the last like year really makes a ton of sense

For what they’re trying to do but if I really am looking to reset and and build out I want I want pick for kusma and I’m not even really concerned with what I’m getting back like nothing that you’re going to get back should be on your

Roster in two years you know worst case three years like but you should be able to take a a step back financially in the deal and you should be able to get like a a lottery protected first or maybe a top 10 protected first and maybe one or

Two seconds along with matching salary so our question Kenny when you came in was can you get a kozma deal done without having without putting Harrison Barnes or Kevin herder into the deal and the answer is yes it it might not be like the easiest thing to do uh but like

You could put together a deal that included Davon Mitchell that included Chris dwarte that included uh Trey ly and then a minimum scale player so like a four for one Swap and that would you know that would get you the player that you want and then that would allow you

To move Harrison Barnes to the second unit where he might be better suited as a player who you know can get more some additional shots uh but then you’re going to have to back fill then you’re going to have to like search the league for you know a backup guard and and some

Of you know or you can just trust that Colby Jones and that uh Sasha zenov can step in and uh that Keon Ellis can step up or you know even kessle or Edwards depending on who it is that you trade in a deal like that but there is a way here

For the Kings because that for me that is a a move where you don’t just improve your starting lineup by swapping kusma out for Barnes but you improve your second unit because now you’re second best player on your second unit instead of tre lyes it’s Harrison Barnes and I

Kenny I don’t think you believe that Harrison Barnes is more valuable than Trey lles at this point and I’m not advocating for trading Trey lles I like Tre lles and I hope he sticks around in Sacramento but you’re looking at a guy who’s on a two-year $16 million contract

You don’t pass up a deal that could strengthen your top seven unless you know you’re gonna have to give up something is basically what I’m saying so yeah anyway that that’s kind of where I was at Kenny and I know it’s not something everyone would be like all in

On but like financially it would work uh and it would also work today tomorrow two years from now three years from now the year after that where you got a guy who 28 years old under contract for four years on a declining scale deal and and

Look I will say this though too as much as I want TR L here and I would it’s all about negotiations right I would negotiate to change that deal up that’s not a deal breaker if I went back to them I was like what you think about Harrison instead of Trey l they’re

Like no we want Trey LS all right man all right we’ll do the deal I’m not gonna be like well deal’s off I I don’t I don’t look at Trey I think kma kma’s the the prize I want kosma here so as much as I like Trey L

As much as I like Harrison Barnes whatever I gotta do to get Kyle kosma here in that realm of things you know what I mean I’ll do it you know I’ll do it I’ll negotiate I’ll try and work the deal out out a different way but I’m not

Going to walk away from the table because of tre La sure felt like you walked away from a table earlier this year when we were having a conversation about Trey ly it was it for Kyle kosman I don’t remember who it was for to be honest with you

I’ve been racking my I don’t remember what that was I don’t remember why we were doing that I don’t even remember why I don’t understand why Trey L is in any of these discussions but I get it so I guess I I think I know the answer ham you we’ve

Had there’s two players in the king starting lineup who have had a you know Kevin herder’s stretch over the last seven games has been just dramatic I mean we’re we’re talking like I I think he went from nine points per game like nineo something points per game to 17.7

Points per game he’s shooting 48% from from from the free the uh three-point line when it felt like he was shooting 4.8% from the three-point line the to the first part of the season and then you’ve got this Harrison Barnes stuff where now all of a sudden Harrison

Barnes is taking 15 shots per game and you’re left here again with five games before the trade deadline and that’s taking you all the way up till the trade deadline rating one wait a minute which version of this like which version of this player are you

Guys Kevin herder are you the guy we’ve seen most recently Harrison Barnes are you the guys we’ve seen most recently or are you the guys who are you know kind of digging yourself out of a what I don’t know what was I don’t call it a slump I don’t know what was going

On with those guys to start the season I have my feelings about Kevin herder and I think there’s a handful of people that fault for the way Kevin herder was playing to start the season Harrison’s confusing to me I don’t I don’t know I think it’s all confusing like I to have

A to have a shooting guard for get how to shoot and literally have like a giant hitch and a shot for weeks and you could like the the mental aspect of the game clearly clearly got to Kevin I think Harrison Barnes is like a really interesting case study in in a player

Who just tried to be a good teammate and take a step back when the team asked him to and didn’t really realize how far of a step back he had taken and maybe he’s not a social media guy maybe he didn’t hear like the drum beating from the fan

Base of like why is this guy still starting but then he shows up and you’re like okay he looks really good but at the end of the day I just it doesn’t change your major problem that you have with this team show up like I’m the greatest

Player ever like I got 32 39 y’all can’t touch me oh okay well welcome to the season HP yeah I guess it it Daman it just depends on who you want to be and like if the Kings want to be a title Contender they have to have better

Players than what they have today that’s just it they have to have the pieces that make you an elite team you can’t look at all the teams in the Western Conference and say well we’re going to struggle against the Clippers because they’ve got Kaw we’re gonna struggle against New Orleans because they’ve got

Zion and they’ve got Brandon Ingram and we’re gonna struggle against you know the whoever Minnesota Timberwolves or you just keep laying out these teams that are long and athletic and at at some point you have to go get the piece that makes your team whole and whatever

However much that hurts you kind of have to do it and you know you’re you’re allowing Keegan Murray to grow and he’s trying his best to show you that he can fill one of the spaces that you need but you still need the guy with a 7 foot

Three wingspan that can defend the three and the four and and give you some athleticism and go up against these long super athletic forwards that you just cannot compete with right now and so to me it doesn’t matter how good haris Barnes plays it doesn’t change the

Calculus because as of right now if he’s the same player he was last year you still needed that player you still needed to go get that player and we talked about it a bunch of times when you walk in your four forwards walking into his season are are

Harrison Barnes and Keegan Murray and Trey lyes and Sasha venkov he didn’t address the the giant need for this team that makes you better defensively that that makes you more versatile and that’s it so I don’t care what the last couple of games look like for for these guys it’s good that

They’re winning but you need players that that fit the needs that fit the that allow you to compete with Michael Porter Jr and and Aaron Gordon and all of these other players that you’re going to run into if your pathway is to the playoffs and wherever that takes you and

James and I I know I know you understand understanding this I know you’re not necessarily saying this but Daman that goes to what we’ve said a number of different times over last couple months why does that need to happen today why do the kings go from 16 years

And in 16 months you better be a championship Contender what like they’re they’re building something here and they got out of the doldrums got into the playoffs now they’re with the unit they have their legit playoff team and everything that James said is right you need that to be a championship Contender

But this might not be the time to go get that that might not even be available right now that that next guy to take you over to over to hump that might not be available so don’t if if if you don’t believe Kyle kosma makes you a

Championship team don’t run out and just go get Kyle kosma just because it’s okay to stand Pat with these guys make the playoffs see what they can do and then make your moves this summer I I got you and James I think I have an answer to

That and James weigh in on this I I think I have a response to that that’s what Mike said Mike used the word Contender Mike was the first one to use the word Contender now I don’t think he said we are a contender we’re going to be a

Contend he said if we’re going to be a contender and granted this was in training camp I don’t think he’s used that word in a long time he said if we’re going to be a contender these are the things that we have to do and then

You had the the flip floppy stuff with dorte and herder which I I I really think caused much more harm than any good it did and I think that’s why I mean granted you don’t go into the season going all right let’s stamp pad like if we lose in the first round is

Cool like I get you don’t do that yeah but at the same time but but even then choose your words carefully but but even then even if you’re saying I can we could post up there and be like this is what the Kings need to win a

Championship and it we’ll be 100% right Mike Brown is like this is what we need to win a championship that’s not it’s not for sale right now it’s not for sale like it’s not there if once again if you don’t believe there you go right up there on the board

If you don’t believe Kyle kosma gets you to a championship level don’t go get him just to go get him like take your time go get Harrison bar I think I think Kyle could take you to another level where you could be a conference Championship maybe a finals

Type team but if if Monty doesn’t believe that Mike don’t believe that don’t go get him just to go get him like take your time be patient with this whole thing because you’re right on schedule for what you’re trying to build for a long-term success and see what you

Get this summer see what’s available this summer no I get you I I just know that this is professional sports and you know to quote the the great Jerry Reynolds anyone who tells you in the NBA that they have a Five-Year Plan doesn’t have

Any plan at all you have to you have to find ways to improve and again like if you’re if we if we equate this to like a house like you’re building a house you got your foundation pieces you’ve got you frame the thing up like you you put

The roof on it you but you don’t have any windows they’re out of Windows you you just can’t leave your house open with no windows and think oh that’s okay because in the it’s not like what we’re talking about here and I’m not saying go

Get Kyle kma just to get Kyle kosma you you get Kyle kma because he’s a better player than what you have right now at your at one of your positions that’s why you get him and does he take you over the top and make you a championship team

I would argue no but it doesn’t mean he doesn’t make you a better team and it doesn’t mean that he’s not like an end like the beginning of something that leads to something else and that’s where you have to be cautious about how much you give up and how much you’re taking

Back and you know like do not do not give up two first round picks and lock up all of your your first round picks for the next five years because of Kyle kusma but you do at least have to like figure out ways to get better on the Fly

And do it right now and you know we understand that this team has limitations and they understand that this team has limitations but you’re also we’re not sitting here just wasting years of play careers because you’re you can’t get a deal done or because you can’t find a player that you know for

Whatever reason the Pelicans can find eight of them and you can’t find any of them you know and so at some point you do have to find the right pieces that can take you over the top and just because you find a piece right now that doesn’t mean that you found the piece

Again go back to like when this whole thing started in 1998 it was Tariq Abdul wad was starting at shooting guard and then it was Nick Anders and then it was Doug Christie like it it’s not one move that you’re you’re all in on or you’re not all in on but you

Have to you have to try to improve the talent level on your team and that’s where I’m at with Kyle kman like I think he improves the talent level on the team I think Jeremy Grant improves the talent level on the team and then it’s like how

Much does it cost you and how do you get how how much does it knock you off kilter making a move like that a quick note for the audience listening on 1320 a.m. and on the Odyssey app our first ever purple and black pregame show with James and Kyle

Is coming up next nice they tapped in to that I really wish we had brainstormed the name of this thing but I get it the purple and black pregame show we can we can run with that for now we we’ll find something a little more catchy I had

Nothing to do with the naming of this I feel like I know who did and we’ll we’ll deal with that in time but we got to be generic as possible because you know we’re not the home so let’s be boring purple and black pregame show basketball team while they’re out there they can

Look for the James ham and Kyle Madson podcast that is the God damn it [Applause] James first the Karan the baggley pissed me off now now they now the now the Kyle and James podcast they do have a podcast you can check the Insiders out in podcast form you just can’t search the

Insiders you have to search Kyle Matson and James ham and I’ll answer the question asking in your head is that the most ridiculous thing ever yep it is I told somebody got paid to say no title the podcast the Insiders with James ham and Kyle Matson why because

I’m pretty confident James ham and Kyle matson’s named aren’t trademarked by anybody else no not even me as much it reminds me Casey as much progress as we’ve made we’ve got so far to go I feel we just we’re not we’re not there yet we’re not there yet we still

Got work ahead uh but our first ever purple and black pregame show is next on the radio immediately followed by run it back so there’s much more Kings talk ahead as we get ready for the Sacramento Kings and the Miami Heat how do you think Miami or excuse me how do you

Think Sacramento comes out in this game against Miami um I think they’re gonna play a good game I I know if they’re going to win or lose but I think they’re gonna play well they’re gonna do one or the other Yeah well yeah I don’t know I

Don’t know if they’re gonna win I don’t know if they’re gonna lose they’ll do one of them but I think they’re gonna play a good game tonight I don’t think this gonna be so we set the over under James this was stunning we set the over under for Harrison Barnes point total in

The Memphis game on Monday we set it at 12 and a half he finished with 12 we all set over too and we all except Jesse was the only one who got paid on Monday so are we sticking with 12 and a half is the number yeah let’s do it I’m going

Over again you’re going over again James you’re going over 12 and a half for Harrison Barnes I’m going over yeah let’s go over we’re gonna have a big game you gonna go over I’m not I’m not but if we set the number at 14 and a half for Kevin herder where are we

Going I’m taking the over on herder tonight well I’m going under herder’s gonna show Tyler hero something I’m gonna go under on herder I’ll go HB big game though big I’m gonna go I’m gonna go under wow okay heyy hey Monk Is back tonight well see that so so that’s the

Thing I’m going back to will Z talking about the uh interior defense of this this Miami Heat team and it does feel like it’s primed for Fox Malik and damont sabonis and monk ain’t gonna have five points with against bam he ain’t doing that yeah no Monk and and de domas

Is going to have a 20 and 18 and seven game that won’t get referenced Anywhere But Here that’s about it all right uh so much more ahead purple and black pregame show with James and Kyle coming up next uh if you want more D KC we’ll head over

To 1025 we’re giving away Justin Timberlake tickets over there Bruce Bruce tickets over there um we got a lot ahead plus Kings basketball man you know what it is Ste and KC will cover it all tomorrow Steen maey brought to you by Sky River Casino here on Sacramento

Sports leader ESPN 1320 BOS Kings light the beam man I hope monk goes for 30 tonight that’d be fantastic scooter I think he’ll show up I think you know Fox and and monk usually like they all like each other they’re all friends they want to they want to play

Well and and show up so he gonna show up against bam yeah I think so no it doesn’t stream Umar it’s just on the radio just on the radio yep oh that’s true it is just on the radio H well the thing about the streaming

Thing if you really want to see it on the stream you could just rewind yeah it’s more for the radio audience who’s just getting in their car uh pregame on the Odyssey app too yep indeed is definitely is sweet yep Odyssey app in the video yep all right

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40:00 Getting to the Kings
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