Is PJ worth that? Coming from someone who’s not watched him much this year
guy_who_sorts_by_new
Don’t like the first, but glad Grant is gone. PJ is a great addition.
KvxMavs
Damn Seth got traded 3 times by the same organization. That’s rough.
manabanana21
If the first is decently protected I’m cool with it.
Also trading Seth – a mavericks tradition
Alex_Sander077
OVERPAY 😭😭😭
Darkphobia_
A 1st for PJ Washington sucks tbh.
WhoWroteTheBible
gafford trade still on?
Guwigo09
Thank god no Josh Green
Reddit-on-Reddit
Man there was a time when I thought we got a steal in Grant Williams. That Linsanity run in the first few games of the season were special. Then I might not have ever seen someone fall so far off a cliff. Farewell Batman!
Beef_Dirky
Seth Curry gotta be tired of getting traded from this team lol poor guy
lancelotofthelake
Well fuck, seems like a lot with the 1st.
Woj just said it’s a lightly protected 1st. WTF!?
Juniper41
feels like a wash. I don’t see the appeal in PJ Washington, but getting off Grant and Seth (who has been arguably our worst player that consistently sees minutes) is huge. Essentially a protected FRP and shedding two bad contracts for a mid to late FRP caliber player. I still have some faith in Grant, if he plays like he does at the start of the season, he is literally the perfect PF to pair next to Lively and Luka/Kai, but I’m not sure if that was ever going to happen.
B- trade, could be higher depending on fit.
EDIT: the pick is top 2 protected. This trade is ass
KBooks66
Seems like an overpay, but getting off of Williams and the Corpse of Seth Curry is nice.
RisingReform
Feel really bad for Seth curry man
razoRamone31
You wanna keep Luka happy and the team strong you gotta do this stuff.
aleezwayne
Top two protected. And Dallas is getting some 2nd round picks back
Jackfitz88
Gafford and PJ Washington?!?!? And all we rewlly traded from our rotation of people that play is grant Williams. HUGE MOVE FROM NICO
YoStepWithLuka77
Y’all need to get off this love for the FRP lol we got omax recently in a salary dump and then dumped richaun back to get gafford. We need actual players fellas to be a very good team not middle schoolers
basicsoup99
2023/24 $16.8M 2024/25 $15.5M 2025/26 $14.2M
inyokoolaid
The first round pick is from 2027 and top-2 protected. Mavs will be getting back 2 2nd round picks.
II1III11
Makes reasonable sense if it does help complete the Gafford deal as well.
The Mavs have two first round picks opening up after this season, it’s not like they will have nothing at all left after giving up this first long term.
LuvMavs
I’m going to miss Grant’s 0 points – 4 fouls games though.
RubMyGooshSilly
If those 2nds go to Washington for Gafford this becomes: Grant, Seth, Holmes and a FRP for Washington and Gafford. Feels a little bit better than a FRP straight up for Washington
Psyllae
If the deadline ends up being mavs get PJ and Gafford for a few 2nds, grant, seth and a 1st i see that as a win
Tmac834
It’s not as much of a fleece in my eyes. Holmes was 100% picking up his player option next year, got off Grant and got a younger more versatile player. Frees up some cap hopefully next year and can plug some holes
donihicks
Surround Luka with athletes. Nico finally gets it. Great moves.
dillyboy22
Y’all have to understand that charlotte is taking a shitty contract off our hands. The first being included was the only way this gets done
Winmoguy
I feel like you guys are undervaluing this trade…
We have front court depth with Maxi and PJ at 4 and Lively and Gafford at 5.
Between Luka and Kyrie that’s a best case scenario other than landing another star. PJ Washington is capable of scoring 40 and playing a bit of D… Grant was terrible beneath the basket. Easy baskets incoming.
We still have Hardy, Tim, Green, DJJ, Exum rounding out the lineup. That’s a nice 11 man rotation.
Hoopy_Dunkalot
What. The. Fuck. Nico be cooking. Yum yum yum.
SpeakerAppropriate10
I will take it. Grant has been really bad and Seth doesn’t even play. The first is questionable but I can live with it
CbBrown88
Got rid of Grant’s contract and those 2nds coming back can be used in the Gafford deal. This is a W by Nico.
imianha
For now it seems kinda an overpay, but, we got a young core rn, i don’t think its that terrible, if Luka stays (i’m very positive about it) and Lively, Grant and Hardy keeps improving, we’re gonna have a solid foundation and that pick is gonna be probably very late first round. Lets hope PJ gets revitalized getting out of Charlotte.
juanopenings
I’m not inclined to root against a former Mav – even if the tenure was just half a season – so it will really suck if Grant ever figures his shit out. Won’t miss Seth this time at all. Hopefully PJ is worth the cost
donihicks
It’s crazy how many people here don’t know ball. This deal is a steal for the Mavs. Grant and Seth were a cancer. A frp for a starting pf who will play heavy minutes is whatever. He will be 10x better playing in this team btw. That’s what everyone is missing.
Noisyfan725
So essentially we gave up Williams, Curry, Holmes, and a 1st for PJ and Gafford. I think that’s probably about as good as we could have done given our limited assets. Don’t love giving up a 1st but screw it, we were pretty much all in for this current timeline anyways.
Repulsive_Fortune396
damn ik im in the minority but ima miss Williams tbh
bbqsauceboi
You guys cooked like crazy
Ohahmomohway
I think this and the Gafford trade are strong moves. We’ve proven that we actually are going to lean on that crazy guard depth with Kyrie being out so much. We get a backup center. We get wing depth. Idk, I’m pretty stoked. Go Nico!
MFFL12_17
Kidd now has no reason to fail. He needs to work on this revamp lineup wisely.
CoachAyeeeee
We just got off of grants contract that he was severely struggling to to live up to. In return we got an starter level player at a position of need with a descending contract locked up long term. We also cleared a roster spot for a buy out. And we got the seconds needed to bring in gafford. In all we got Washington and gafford for Seth, grant and a first.
technologyfan86
Getting Daniel Gafford and PJ Washington without giving up our young core is something I only imagined! I’m so thrilled we pulled it off! Let’s go Mavs!!!
heshewewumbos
I feel a lot of people are not familiar with PJ Washington or haven’t been watching him.
He has a high offensive ceiling, and has had season highs of 43 (last week) and 32. He frequently gets 20+. He averaged 16 PPG last year, and with Luka he will surely return to that in a starting role. He is a versatile offensive player, can hit a much higher percentage from three in our system as well, stretching the floor.
He can defend a wide variety of players not exceptionally but solidly. He is 6’7, but has a massive wingspan at 7’3, which is huge for his defensive ability and speed, the length is in the right place, and he is longer than the other options. He will be a solid defender, which in our current lineup is a massive upgrade. More importantly, he has experience as a small ball five, and can be lethal there. This makes us more adaptive against smaller lineups.
He reminds me of John Collins, and in every way he is a massive upgrade at a position we have been severely lacking in. He is a well rounded player. He fits far better than Kuzma in my opinion.
Pair him with the acquisition of Gafford, and we possibly just filled our 2 largest holes this season.
With a starting/closing lineup of Luka/Kyrie/DJJ/PJ/Lively we are big enough to compete against the larger teams, and we have a well balanced offensive and defensive unit. With a frequently used bench of Exum, Gafford, Green, Kleber, Hardaway, and Hardy, we have a lot of options and flexibility, especially with a frequently injured team.
This was a fantastic trade deadline in my eyes and significantly improved our team. Time will tell if it meshes on the court as well as it does on paper.
Red_Hot_Chile_Miners
Hornets are my unfortunate other team, so I’m pretty hyped about the fit, PJ is perfect when he’s playing at a high level. I do think it’s an overpay though, Mavs love dumping 1sts even after they land gold with the few we keep and I feel like it’s premature dumping Williams because he’s been crap for a few months into a new contract. I’ll take an overpay with the Gafford heist I guess
shaheedmalik
Damn Seth Curry got done dirty again. At least it’s the Hornets. His dad is an announcer there.
cvandyke01
Damn… Seth got moved again!
swoleswoleswole1869
he’s averaging 13 points, shoots 4 triples a game at a 37ish% clip. don’t love sending out firsts but fuck them picks, make playoffs and surprise someone
47 Comments
Really gotta see the first in this
Is PJ worth that? Coming from someone who’s not watched him much this year
Don’t like the first, but glad Grant is gone. PJ is a great addition.
Damn Seth got traded 3 times by the same organization. That’s rough.
If the first is decently protected I’m cool with it.
Also trading Seth – a mavericks tradition
OVERPAY 😭😭😭
A 1st for PJ Washington sucks tbh.
gafford trade still on?
Thank god no Josh Green
Man there was a time when I thought we got a steal in Grant Williams. That Linsanity run in the first few games of the season were special. Then I might not have ever seen someone fall so far off a cliff. Farewell Batman!
Seth Curry gotta be tired of getting traded from this team lol poor guy
Well fuck, seems like a lot with the 1st.
Woj just said it’s a lightly protected 1st. WTF!?
feels like a wash. I don’t see the appeal in PJ Washington, but getting off Grant and Seth (who has been arguably our worst player that consistently sees minutes) is huge. Essentially a protected FRP and shedding two bad contracts for a mid to late FRP caliber player. I still have some faith in Grant, if he plays like he does at the start of the season, he is literally the perfect PF to pair next to Lively and Luka/Kai, but I’m not sure if that was ever going to happen.
B- trade, could be higher depending on fit.
EDIT: the pick is top 2 protected. This trade is ass
Seems like an overpay, but getting off of Williams and the Corpse of Seth Curry is nice.
Feel really bad for Seth curry man
You wanna keep Luka happy and the team strong you gotta do this stuff.
Top two protected. And Dallas is getting some 2nd round picks back
Gafford and PJ Washington?!?!? And all we rewlly traded from our rotation of people that play is grant Williams. HUGE MOVE FROM NICO
Y’all need to get off this love for the FRP lol we got omax recently in a salary dump and then dumped richaun back to get gafford. We need actual players fellas to be a very good team not middle schoolers
2023/24 $16.8M
2024/25 $15.5M
2025/26 $14.2M
The first round pick is from 2027 and top-2 protected. Mavs will be getting back 2 2nd round picks.
Makes reasonable sense if it does help complete the Gafford deal as well.
The Mavs have two first round picks opening up after this season, it’s not like they will have nothing at all left after giving up this first long term.
I’m going to miss Grant’s 0 points – 4 fouls games though.
If those 2nds go to Washington for Gafford this becomes: Grant, Seth, Holmes and a FRP for Washington and Gafford. Feels a little bit better than a FRP straight up for Washington
If the deadline ends up being mavs get PJ and Gafford for a few 2nds, grant, seth and a 1st i see that as a win
It’s not as much of a fleece in my eyes. Holmes was 100% picking up his player option next year, got off Grant and got a younger more versatile player. Frees up some cap hopefully next year and can plug some holes
Surround Luka with athletes. Nico finally gets it. Great moves.
Y’all have to understand that charlotte is taking a shitty contract off our hands. The first being included was the only way this gets done
I feel like you guys are undervaluing this trade…
We have front court depth with Maxi and PJ at 4 and Lively and Gafford at 5.
Between Luka and Kyrie that’s a best case scenario other than landing another star. PJ Washington is capable of scoring 40 and playing a bit of D… Grant was terrible beneath the basket. Easy baskets incoming.
We still have Hardy, Tim, Green, DJJ, Exum rounding out the lineup. That’s a nice 11 man rotation.
What. The. Fuck. Nico be cooking. Yum yum yum.
I will take it. Grant has been really bad and Seth doesn’t even play. The first is questionable but I can live with it
Got rid of Grant’s contract and those 2nds coming back can be used in the Gafford deal. This is a W by Nico.
For now it seems kinda an overpay, but, we got a young core rn, i don’t think its that terrible, if Luka stays (i’m very positive about it) and Lively, Grant and Hardy keeps improving, we’re gonna have a solid foundation and that pick is gonna be probably very late first round. Lets hope PJ gets revitalized getting out of Charlotte.
I’m not inclined to root against a former Mav – even if the tenure was just half a season – so it will really suck if Grant ever figures his shit out. Won’t miss Seth this time at all. Hopefully PJ is worth the cost
It’s crazy how many people here don’t know ball. This deal is a steal for the Mavs. Grant and Seth were a cancer. A frp for a starting pf who will play heavy minutes is whatever. He will be 10x better playing in this team btw. That’s what everyone is missing.
So essentially we gave up Williams, Curry, Holmes, and a 1st for PJ and Gafford. I think that’s probably about as good as we could have done given our limited assets. Don’t love giving up a 1st but screw it, we were pretty much all in for this current timeline anyways.
damn ik im in the minority but ima miss Williams tbh
You guys cooked like crazy
I think this and the Gafford trade are strong moves. We’ve proven that we actually are going to lean on that crazy guard depth with Kyrie being out so much. We get a backup center. We get wing depth. Idk, I’m pretty stoked. Go Nico!
Kidd now has no reason to fail. He needs to work on this revamp lineup wisely.
We just got off of grants contract that he was severely struggling to to live up to. In return we got an starter level player at a position of need with a descending contract locked up long term. We also cleared a roster spot for a buy out. And we got the seconds needed to bring in gafford. In all we got Washington and gafford for Seth, grant and a first.
Getting Daniel Gafford and PJ Washington without giving up our young core is something I only imagined! I’m so thrilled we pulled it off! Let’s go Mavs!!!
I feel a lot of people are not familiar with PJ Washington or haven’t been watching him.
He has a high offensive ceiling, and has had season highs of 43 (last week) and 32. He frequently gets 20+. He averaged 16 PPG last year, and with Luka he will surely return to that in a starting role. He is a versatile offensive player, can hit a much higher percentage from three in our system as well, stretching the floor.
He can defend a wide variety of players not exceptionally but solidly. He is 6’7, but has a massive wingspan at 7’3, which is huge for his defensive ability and speed, the length is in the right place, and he is longer than the other options. He will be a solid defender, which in our current lineup is a massive upgrade. More importantly, he has experience as a small ball five, and can be lethal there. This makes us more adaptive against smaller lineups.
He reminds me of John Collins, and in every way he is a massive upgrade at a position we have been severely lacking in. He is a well rounded player. He fits far better than Kuzma in my opinion.
Pair him with the acquisition of Gafford, and we possibly just filled our 2 largest holes this season.
With a starting/closing lineup of Luka/Kyrie/DJJ/PJ/Lively we are big enough to compete against the larger teams, and we have a well balanced offensive and defensive unit. With a frequently used bench of Exum, Gafford, Green, Kleber, Hardaway, and Hardy, we have a lot of options and flexibility, especially with a frequently injured team.
This was a fantastic trade deadline in my eyes and significantly improved our team. Time will tell if it meshes on the court as well as it does on paper.
Hornets are my unfortunate other team, so I’m pretty hyped about the fit, PJ is perfect when he’s playing at a high level. I do think it’s an overpay though, Mavs love dumping 1sts even after they land gold with the few we keep and I feel like it’s premature dumping Williams because he’s been crap for a few months into a new contract. I’ll take an overpay with the Gafford heist I guess
Damn Seth Curry got done dirty again. At least it’s the Hornets. His dad is an announcer there.
Damn… Seth got moved again!
he’s averaging 13 points, shoots 4 triples a game at a 37ish% clip. don’t love sending out firsts but fuck them picks, make playoffs and surprise someone