Scottie Barnes Leaves The Bench | Raptors Show Clips
>> Will: WELCOME BACK TO “THE RAPTORS SHOW” ON SPORTSNET RADIO NETWORK. I’M YOUR HOST WILL LOU JOINED WHICH BLAKE MURPHY. WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THE CLIPS FROM PRACTICE TODAY, A BIT OF CONFUSION, AT LEAST BASED ON THE WAY IT WAS TWEETED OUT.
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE JUST SOME CONFUSION THAT THAT HAPPENED AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE. I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING A SENSE OF WHAT WENT ON AT RAPTORS PRACTICE IN TERMS OF DARKO AND SCOTTIE TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHTS, THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE AND ALL THAT.
FIRST, WE HAVE A CLIP OF SCOTTIE DISCUSSING THAT IN DETAIL WITH MICHAEL GRANGE WHO WE WILL BRING ON AFTER THE CLIPS. >> WANTED TO HEAR YOUR VERSION OF HOW YOU ENDED UP BEING OFF THE BENCH AND IN THE LOCKER ROOM BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE? >> THERE WAS TWO OR THREE
SECONDS LEFT, I JUST LEFT THE GAME. I DON’T KNOW, JUST LEFT THE GAME. >> DID YOU THINK THE GAME WAS OVER OR JUST HAD ENOUGH AT THAT POINT? >> NO, JUST TWO SECONDS LEFT. JUST GOING TO THE LOCKER ROOM. >> (inaudible) GOING THROUGH THE
PROCESS, HOW WOULD THAT LOOK TO THE TEAMMATES, THOUGH? >> HUH? >> HOW WOULD THAT BE A GOOD LOOK FOR THE TEAMMATES? >> UM, I DON’T KNOW. LEFT THE GAME EARLY. GUESS SAID (inaudible) SO IT WAS A BAD LOOK. IT WAS A MISTAKE ON MY PART.
IF IT AFFECTED THEM IN ANY WAY, IT’S A MISTAKE BY ME. >> THE SITUATION YOU’RE IN, KIND OF THE LEADER OF THE TEAM AND — >> I THINK WE’RE ALL LEADERS. >> ONE OF THE LEADERS. BUT WHEN YOU’RE KIND OF — THE EMOTION YOU PLAY WITH WHEN IT’S
GOOD, YOU KNOW, IT’S VERY OBVIOUS, THE WHOLE BUILDING (inaudible) BUT AT TIMES, YOU LOOK FRUSTRATED (inaudible) SLOW TO GET BACK AT TIMES. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN POINTED OUT TO YOU OR SOMETHING YOU’RE AWARE OF THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK SNN
>> I THINK MORE WHEN I’M FRUSTRATED OR EMOTION, MORE ON MY POINT. YOU KNOW, I HAD THREE TURNOVERS, THREE, FOUR TURNOVERS IN THE FO FIRST QUARTER, SO JUST FRUSTRATED WITH MYSELF. JUST GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THE BALL, EASY FAST BREAK POINTS, SHOWING EMOTION.
IT COST US ON OUR PART. SO IT’S MORE ME BEING FRUSTRATED WITH MYSELF IN THE WAY I’M PLAYING AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. JUST MORE FRUSTRATED ON MY PART. >> YOU KIND OF RECOGNIZE THAT THE CAMERAS ON YOU ALL THE TIME,
WHOLE BUILDING IS WATCHING YOU, IT’S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE CONSCIOUS OF OR NO? >> I GUESS. CAMERA IS WATCHING ME, I GUESS. JUST PLAYING THE GAME AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WIN. NOT REALLY COUNTING WHERE THE CAMERA IS. JUST TRYING TO PLAY AND HELP THE
TEAM WIN ANY WAY POSSIBLE. >> Will: OKAY, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THAT BEFORE WE PLAY THE DARKO HALF OF THIS? >> Blake: IT’S A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING GIVEN THE WAY DARKO FRAMED IT AND AGAIN WE WILL PLAY HIS PART, BUT WE CAME
ON HERE AT 2 O’CLOCK, SCOTTIE HADN’T SPOKE YET, WE WERE ONLY REACTING TO THE DARKO SIDE AND HE PRESENTED A MUCH MORE ACCOUNTABLE VERSION OF SCOTTIE BARNES THAN SCOTTIE BARNES PRESENTED WHERE THE TYPICAL LIKE IF IT OFFENDED SOMEONE, THEN I APOLOGIZE KIND OF THING, YOU
KNOW, PUSHING BACK ON GRANGE CALLING HIM A LEADER OF THE TEAM, YOU KNOW, TO SAY WE’RE ALL LEADERS, BUT TRUE, YOU WANT TO TAKE ON OWNERSHIP THERE. IT JUST DIDN’T SEEM LIKE TO HIM HE THOUGHT IT WAS A BIG DEAL ALL. WHICH IS YOUR PREROGATIVE.
AGAIN, I KEEP COUCHING THIS TO MAKE SURE IT’S CLARIFIED BECAUSE I KNOW HOW SOUND BITES WORK. IT’S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. HE CAN IMPROVE AND LEARN AND GET BETTER, BUT YEAH, THE DAY AFTER AND AFTER HAVING TALKED TO THE COACHES, THAT’S NOT EXACTLY THE
MESSAGING YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE PREFERRED AS THE RAPTORS. YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LIKED A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD ACCOUNTABILITY OF THAT’S MY BAD, I SHOULDN’T HAVE DONE THAT, I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT’S A BAD LOOK WHY TEAMMATES ARE STILL ON THE COURT AND IT WAS ONLY YOU THAT
LEFT THE COURT. AND THEN THE NO, WE DIDN’T TALK ABOUT THAT ELEMENT THAT ALSO DIDN’T PLAY (indiscernible) IS NOT GREAT. >> Will: LET’S RUN THE SECOND CLIP. >> LEAVING THE BENCH, YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. HE THOUGHT IT WAS A SHOT CLOCK
VIOLATION AND THE SIREN WAS ALREADY OFF. HE WAS NOT AWARE OF IT, AND YES, WE DID HAVE A TALK THIS MORNING ABOUT IT. I JUST BROUGHT AWARENESS THAT HIM AS A LEADER OF THE TEAM, LIKE HE HAS TO BE AWARE OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND HE CANNOT
OVERLOOK AND THAT OBVIOUSLY BEING THAT GUY, YOU’RE GOING TO BE UNDER ALWAYS MICROSCOPE, SO HE’S AWARE OF IT, AND HE REGRETS HIS ACTS FROM YESTERDAY, BUT IT WAS GENUINE JUST NOT BEING AWARE. >> HAS DARKO CHATTED WITH YOU ABOUT WHETHER LEAVING THE COURT
EARLY, GETTING BACK ON DEFENSE >> WE ALL CAN SEE I’M FRUSTRATED. I GUESS THAT’S MORE OF WHAT IT IS. >> YOU GUYS DIDN’T HAVE A MEETING OR ANYTHING THIS MORNING? >> WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GAME, BUT THAT WAS REALLY EVERYTHING.
>> Will: YEAH, OKAY, A LOT OF CONFUSION. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE CONTEXT AROUND IT BECAUSE IT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF YOU ONLY WATCH THE VIDEO PORTION, MAYBE YOU DON’T GET THE FULL CONTEXT. LET’S TALK TO THE MAN WHO WAS
ASKING THE QUESTIONS HIMSELF, MICHAEL GRANGE OF SPORTSNET. WHAT SHOULD WE — YEAH, WE DON’T HAVE GRANGE YET. WE ARE WORKING TO GET GRANGE ON THE LINE. I SAW THE NOTE. WE WILL GET TO GRANGE’S SIDE OF IT BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS A CONFUSION. WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED HERE?
WHAT’S GOING ON? SERIOUSLY, WHAT IS GOING ON? IT’S MAKING SOMETHING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A BAD LOOK, BUT YOU CAN TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR IT AND THEN JUST MOVE ON, IT’S MAKING IT IN TO A MUCH MORE CONFUSING OR DEAL. WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?
>> Blake: THE SIMPLEST READ ON THIS IS THEY ALL TALKED ABOUT IT AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND IN SCOTTIE’S MIND, IT WASN’T A MEETING ABOUT THAT, AND THAT’S HOW HE ANSWERED THE QUESTION WHEREAS DARKO IS TRYING TO PLAY THE PUBLIC MESSAGING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT, YEAH, THIS ISN’T A GREAT THING. THEY CAME OUT OF, WHETHER THEY HAD A MEETING OR IT WAS PART OF THE FILM DISCUSSION OR WHATEVER, THEY’RE CLEARLY NOT ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE LEVEL OF WHETHER THIS WAS AN ISSUE AND WHY EXACTLY THAT WAS THE CASE.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN FEEL LIKE IT’S A NON-ISSUE, BUT THE TEAM, YOU KNOW, THE DAY AFTER, THE COACH AND THE STAR PLAYER WHO LEFT THE COURT ON WHY THAT WAS OKAY AND WHY AND WHY NOT? >> Will: GRANGE IS ON THE LINE.
DID THEY HAVE A TALK ABOUT WHAT WENT WRONG YESTERDAY AT THE END OF THE GAME? >> WELL, NOT ACCORDING TO SCOTTIE. I THINK IF WE’RE GOING TO REALLY PARSE THIS, LIKE ZAP ROOTER IT LIKE WE’VE BEEN LEFT TO DO, THEY DID TALK BUT THE TALK WAS ABOUT
THE GAME. IF YOU’VE GONE THROUGH THE TRANSCRIPT A COUPLE OF TIMES, WHEN HE’S ASKED AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, HAS DARKO SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK ON DEFENSE, LEAVING THE BENCH EARLY LAST NIGHT, THAT WAS THE GIST OF THE QUESTION?
I’M PRETTY CLOSE TO ACCURATE ON THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND HE SAID THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION, AND THEN I ASKED, SO YOU DIDN’T HAVE A MEETING WITH HIM THIS MORNING? I HE SAID, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT THE GAME, THAT WAS THE PRIMARY THING.
SO THE SUBJECT OF THE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, SCOTTIE DIDN’T WANT TO ELABORATE ON OR HEARD THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN DARKO KIND OF EXPLAINED IT TO US. I LOOKED THROUGH DARKO’S ANSWER AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE OVERINTERPRETED HOW SIGNIFICANT
OR HOW SPECIFIC THIS MEETING WAS, BUT I THINK WE’RE KIND OF GTTING LOST IN THE WEEDS HERE, YOU KNOW. I THINK REALLY THE HEADLINE IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IS WHAT HAPPENS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS WHEN YOU
HAVE A GUY WHO WE ALL KNOW IS EXTRAORDINARILY TALENTED WHO’S REALLY IN A JOB HE’S NOT READY FOR RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, HE’S LEARNING ON IT, AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS HOW HE KIND OF COMPORTS HIMSELF ON THE FLOOR.
IT’S NOT LIKE HE’S A MENACE, BUT WE’VE SEEN IT, KIND OF THE FLAILING OF THE ARMS, THE REFS, THE SLOW RUNS BACK, AND THE OTHER PART OF IT AND PROBABLY THE LEAST IMPORTANT BUT NOT INSIGNIFICANT IS HOW HE PRESENTS, YOU KNOW, HIS FACE AND
THE — YOU KNOW, THEY CALL IT FACE OF THE FRANCHISE. IT’S HOW HE PRESENTS THE RAPTORS PUBLICLY IN ALL KINDS OF CONTEXTS, BUT ONE OF THEM IS, YOU KNOW, IN MOMENTS LIKE THIS WHEN YOU’VE GOT DRILLED BY ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE
AND YOU’RE COMING OFF TWO BAD BLOWOUT LOSSES THAT YOU CAN KIND OF PRESENT YOURSELF IN A WAY THAT’S GOING TO MAKE THINGS SOUND LIKE THEY’RE GOING TO BE OKAY. MAYBE THAT’S THE WAY TO PUT IT. >> Blake: SO DARKO SAID HE DOESN’T FEEL THE NEED FOR
ADDITIONAL DISCIPLINE. I ONLY BRING IT UP BECAUSE THERE WAS A SIMILAR SITUATION AND NONE OF US WERE IN TAMPA BAY, BUT HE CERTAINLY GOT THE REPORTS AND THE INTEL THAT HEY, PASCAL SIAKAM DID THIS, YOU KNOW, NICK NURSE WASN’T THE ONE DECIDING
THAT THERE WAS A — I GUESS TECHNICALLY THEY CALLED IT BENCHING NOT SUSPENSION BECAUSE SUSPENSION GETS IN TO CBA AND LABOUR STUFF, SO THERE WAS HE GOT SAT DOWN. THERE WAS PRECEDENCE, PLAYER HANDED THE KEYS, YOU’RE THE LEADER NOW, YOU CAN’T ACT THIS WAY.
I ONLY ASK THIS BECAUSE THAT PRECEDENT IS THERE, BUT AFTER SCOTTIE’S PRESSER TODAY AND NOT THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY BUT NOT ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE SAME DEGREE THAT DARKO HAD PAINTSED DO YOU THINK DARKO WILL FEEL SIMILARLY THAT HEY, LET’S MOVE ON FROM IT?
>> I THINK THEY WILL MOVE ON AND I THINK IT’S WORTH MENTIONING TOO IN THIS CONTEXT, AS I’M SURE, YOU DISCUSSED THE SITUATION WITH PASCAL, THERE WAS 26 SECONDS LEFT. HE FOULED OUT AND LEFT THE FLOOR IN AN EMPTY ARENA IN TAMPA, AND HEARD ABOUT IT A BIT LATER.
IT WAS INTERESTING, AND I BROUGHT IT UP TO DARKO AND BROUGHT IT UP TO SCOTTIE TOO THAT THIS IS THE CONTEXT WITH WHICH WE’RE PURSUEING THIS. P IN MY LIST OF BASKETALL SINS, A DISGUSTED PLAYER WALKING OFF THE FLOOR WITH TWO SECONDS LEFT,
WHICHEVER NUMBER IT WAS, HAVING JUST HAD YOUR BUTT KICKED, THAT’S NOT REALLY ALL THAT HIGH ON IT FOR ME. THAT’S JUST MY OWN PERSONAL — AND SIMILAR TO WHEN IT HAPPENED WITH PASCAL. A GUY FOULING OUT, GETTING DRILLED AND, YOU KNOW, NOT
HAVING A GREAT NIGHT AND DECIDES TO WALK IT OFF, AGAIN, THEY MADE IT A BIG DEAL, I DIDN’T. AND SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS THE CONTEXT. SO I BROUGHT IT UP TO DARKO TO BE FAIR, AND HE SAYS, WELL, NO, IT WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION,
THERE WAS THREE MINUTES LEFT AND NO, NO, THERE WAS 26 SECONDS LEFT AND I ONLY MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE MADE THE EFFORT TO GO THIS IS WHY PEOPLE WILL BE ASKING ABOUT THIS, THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE MAKING WHAT SEEMS
LIKE A SMALL THING IN TO A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THING BECAUSE IT’S HAPPENED BEFORE AND THIS WAS HOW IT WAS HANDLED. SIMILARLY WHEN I MENTIONED IT TO SCOTTIE, IT WAS THE FIRST HE EVER HEARD OF IT, OR SEEMS LIKE IT WAS THE FIRST HE EVER HEARD OF IT.
HE SEEMED SURPRISED BY THE LITTLE THING. AND THOSE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS WH — THOSE ARE THE THINGS WHERE AN ORGANIZATION CAN SUPPORT A PLAYER AND WHY THIS SEEMINGLY INNOCUOUS THING, SOME PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR IT. IT’S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD
HAVE JUMPED OFF THE PAGE FOR ME, OTHER THAN IT’S HAPPENED BEFORE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT’S WHERE — THAT’S A LITTLE BIT OF A WRINKLE HERE THAT’S KIND OF INTERESTING IS, ONE, THE COACH WAS AWARE BUT DIDN’T REALLY UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY THE ISSUE, AND THEN
THE PLAYER HAD NO CLUE ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF THE CONTEXT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORTH MAKING SURE EVERYONE WAS NAILED DOWN ON AS WELL. >> Will: I MEAN, LOOK, THE END OF THE GAME, HONESTLY, AT THAT
POINT, THE RESULT WAS ALREADY OVER. IT DIDN’T AFFECT THE IMPACT OF THE GAME, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT’S ONE THING. I THINK THE MORE — THE BIGGER THING IS JUST HOW, YOU KNOW, ENGAGED AND HOW CONNECTED HE IS, PLAY TO PLAY, QUARTER TO
QUARTER, MINUTE TO MINUTE, THAT YOU NEEDED TO SEE DURING THE GAME. THAT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE IMPACT OF THE GAME WAS GETTING BACK IN TRANSITION AND YOU COULD MAKE A WHOLE REEL OF JUST MOMENTS WHERE HE DIDN’T GET OUT OF TRANSITION OR MISSED
OPPORTUNITIES OFFENSIVELY HERE OR THERE, WHATEVER, THAT HAPPENS. THAT TO ME IS THE BIGGER THING. HONESTLY, EVEN HOW YOU PRESENT YOURSELF TO THE MEDIA, TO BE HONEST, THAT ISN’T REALLY CONTROLLABLE IN A WAY. HE IS WHAT HE IS. YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR ME, THAT’S
MUCH, MUCH LESS IMPORTANT THAN, YOU KNOW, HOW ENGAGED ARE YOU IN TERMS OF RUNNING BACK IN TRANSITION. I THINK THAT ALMOST WHEN WE HAD THIS WHOLE BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, PASCAL DID THIS, THAT’S FINE, I THINK THE BIGGER THING IS JUST IN THE GAME LIKE
JUST STAY ENGAGED AND COMPETE THE ENTIRE WAY THROUGH AND THAT’S NOT TO MEAN HE DOESN’T DO THAT. SOME GAMES, HE’S THE HARDEST COMPETITOR. AFTER THE CLEVELAND GAME, HE WAS AWESOME, SO CONNECTED, SO ENGAGED. DIDN’T CHANGE THE RESULT, WITH YOU I LOVE THE GAME HE PLAYED
AND HE HAD A TRIPLE DOUBLE. THE NEXT GAME, THOUGH, YOU SEE THE LACKING. SO THAT’S TO ME THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE. >> RIGHT, AND THIS IS A GUY WHO HAS BEEN PUT IN TO A SITUATION THAT EVERYONE IS HOPING HE’LL EVENTUALLY GROW IN TO, AND, YOU
KNOW, THERE’S REASON FOR THAT. WE’VE SEEN IT PLENTY OF TIMES. I MEAN, THIS GUY IS PRETTY SPECIAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE IS NOT THERE. HE IS NOT THERE YET, AND REALLY, KIND OF THE GAME-TO-GAME FLUCTUATIONS WITH I WOULDN’T SAY HIS EFFORT OR ENERGY LEVEL, BUT
SORT OF HIS ABILITY TO DEAL WITH FRUSTRATION AS IT’S UNFOLDING IN A GAME. YOU KNOW, IT’S NOT PROBABLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, AND I MEAN, I’M NOT TRYING TO HOLD HIM TO A STANDARD THAT’S UNREALISTIC, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO GET BETTER, AND I
THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE SORT OF THE SITUATIONS YOU FIND YOURSELF IN, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ORGANIZATION NEED TO KIND OF REALLY MAKE SURE THESE KINDS OF THINGS ARE BEING ADDRESSED. I THINK THE BROADER CONTEXT HERE, A LITTLE BIT WITH SCOTTIE,
IS A LOT OF THE KIND OF NARRATIVE LAST YEAR WAS KIND OF A FRICTION, I GUESS, BETWEEN SOME OF THE OLDER GUARD AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY SAFELY SAY THAT’S FRED AND SOME OF THE YOUNGER GUYS, AND SCOTTIE, AND, SORRY, MY WIFE IS CALLING ME.
SHE DOESN’T KNOW I’M ON THE RADIO. >> Blake: IT’S ALL RIGHT, WE GOT INTERRUPTED BY A CAT LAST SEGMENT AND WE’RE ALL GOOD. >> IT’S ALL GOOD. BUT AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SORT OF THE CRUX OF THAT IS THIS GUY IS BEING, YOU KNOW, OFFERED A
LOT AND BEING GIVEN A TON OF RESPONSIBILITY, A TON OF OPPORTUNITY, AND, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WAYS, IS HE READY FOR IT THE WAY HE’S GOING TO NEED TO BE. AND I THINK LAST YEAR, THE ANSWER WAS PROBABLY NO. I THINK THIS YEAR, WE’VE ALL
SEEN TREMENDOUS PROGRESS, BUT NOW HE’S ON AN ISLAND. IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE SUBPLOTS LAST NIGHT AND WE’VE SEEN IT MULTIPLE TIMES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OKLAHOMA CITY GAME AS WELL AND WE TALK ABOUT LACK OF ENGAGEMENT OR MAYBE, YOU
KNOW, NOT LOOKING LIKE HE’S KIND OF — WELL, GUESS WHO HE’S GETTING GUARDED BY? JEREMY SOCHAN WAS IN HIS SHIRT. AND BEHIND HIM WAS ARE WEMBANYAMA, AND AT THIS STAGE OF HIS CAREER, SCOTTIE WASN’T REALLY PREPARED AND THERE WASN’T ANYONE WHO COULD LIFT THAT BURDEN FOR HIM.
LUGUENTZ DORT MADE HIM DISAPPEAR AT THE END OF THE OKC GAME. I LOOK BACK AT THE CLIPPERS GAME IN L.A. WHEN KAWHI LEONARD DECIDED FOR A QUARTER TO PLAY DEFENSE AND SCOTTIE HAD NO ANSWER. O.G. ANUNOBY AGAINST HIM IN NEW YORK, SAME THING. SCOTTIE BARNES ISN’T THE ONLY
PERSON WHO CAN’T MANAGE THAT KIND OF ATTENTION BECAUSE THOSE OF SOME OF THE BEST DEFENDERS IN THE LEAGUE, BUT THE JOB IS TO FIGURE THAT OUT, TO BE ABLE TO COUNTER THAT THREAT WITH YOUR OWN ABILITY OR SKILL OR USE YOUR OWN ABILITY AND SKILL TO ALLOW
YOUR TEAMMATES TO AFFECT THE GAME. THAT’S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAINST SOME REALLY DEFENSIVE ATTENTION HE STRUGGLED WITH AND I THINK SOMETIMES THOSE STRUGGLES CARRY OVER IN TO HOW HE CARRIES HIMSELF AND COMPORTS HIMSELF. >> Will: I THINK THAT’S THE OTHR PART TOO, BIGGER PICTURE
WISE. YOU KNOW, IT’S ON HIM NOW. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, QUICKLEY HAD A BAD GAME LAST NIGHT. R.J. I DIDN’T THINK WAS THAT EFFECTIVE EITHER. YOU KNOW, THERE’S VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE TWO OTHER ELEMENTS, BUT THAT’S BECAUSE WE EXPECT WAY MORE OF SCOTTIE. >> Blake: THEY’RE NOT GETTING
THE ROOKIE SKILL EXTENSION SUPER MAX THIS SUMMER. >> Will: EVEN THE FINANCIAL PART, WHATEVER — >> Blake: IT’S MORE ABOUT — I DON’T MEAN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, I MEAN WHAT THAT SIGNIFIES. ONLY A DOZEN GUYS IN THE LEAGUE GET THAT. >> Will: BUT THE PATH TO THIS
WHOLE THING WORKING IS SCOTTIE TAKING IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL, HE’S THE LEADER ON THE COURT, OFF THE COURT, EVERYTHING. FRANCHISE PLAYER MEANS FRANCHISE PLAYER. THESE MOMENTS OF GROWTH ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY IMPORTANT. WE’RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE CELEBRATING MOMENTS OF SUCCESS.
LAST TIME THEY PLAYED WEMBY, THEY CAME BACK AND WON AND WE WERE ALL BACK HERE SAYING, WOW, SCOTTIE OUTPLAYED WEMBY. THAT WAS INCREBLG — INCREDIBLE. YOU NEED TO REFLECT ON THE THINGS AND IMPROVE AND GET BETTER. WHEN HE GETS PUT IN THE
SPOTLIGHT, HOPEFULLY THERE’S A — COME OUT WITH A RESPONSE. THE BEST CASE SCENARIO FOR THE RAPTORS TOMORROW LITERALLY FOR THEIR OWN PICK BUT ALSO NARRATIVELY FOR THE FRANCHISE GOING FORWARD IS SCOTTIE GOES OUT, PUTS UP A 30-POINT TRIPLE DOUBLE AND THEY BEAT THE PACERS,
THEY SHUT DOWN PASCAL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU FEEL ABOUT HEY, WE FEEL GOOD THEY PIVOTED THIS THIS DIRECTION AND WE NOW SEE WHY. >> I AGREE WITH YOU AND THAT’S COMPLETELY ON THE TABLE, BUT I’LL REFERENCE DARKO IN THIS. I DON’T THINK THIS WILL BE THE
LAST TIME WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE SORT OF OVERSCRUTINIZE, IT’S INEVITABLE, AND WE SEE SOMETHING AND FIND A SHORTCOMING, BUT IT JUST CAN’T BE — YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT YOU FALL IN TO A PATTERN OF STAGNATION AND MAYBE
THAT WAS A BIT OF THE STORY FOR A BIG CHUNK OF LAST YEAR. AND I THINK REALLY THIS YEAR, AS GREAT AS HE’S BEEN, HIS DECEMBER AND JANUARY PRODUCTION IS NOT NEARLY WHERE IT WAS. SORRY, HIS JANUARY AND FEBRUARY PRODUCTION, YEAH, FOR THE PAST MONTH, HIS PRODUCTION HAS FALLEN
OFF PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY, AND/OR MEASURABLY, AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE STORY? IS HE GOING TO SORT OF KIND OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, POST ALL-STAR KIND OF COAST TO THE FINISH LINE, OR IS HE GOING TO REACH TO ANOTHER LEVEL. TO BLAKE’S POINT, THEY’RE JUST,
YOU KNOW, YOU MEASURE IT BY THE MONEY, BUT REALLY, IT’S THE DIRECTION OF AN ENTERPRISE THAT IS BEING INVESTED IN THIS GUY. SO DETAILS MATTER, AND IT’S NOT JUST WINS OR LOSSES. IT’S CAREERS, IT’S JOBS. THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, SAY NOTHING OF FANS, RIGHT?
WHO ARE SPENDING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD AND SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT IS SO DEAR TO THEM AND THEY’RE KIND OF RISING AND FALLING WITH ALL OF THIS, BUT THE TRAJECTORY OF AN ORGANIZATION IS AFFECTED BY ITS PLAYERS, AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS
DON’T GO RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. PEOPLE DO LOSE JOBS. PEOPLE DO — THINGS GO BADLY FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND SO THAT’S WHY IT’S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THE SOONER AN ATHLETE KIND OF GRASPS THAT AND UNDERSTANDS THAT IT’S MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING
A GOOD GAME OR A BAD GAME, THE FURTHER ALONG EVERYONE GETS. AND, YOU KNOW, NOBODY’S DOUBTING I DON’T THINK SCOTTIE’S PASSION FOR THE GAME, NOBODY’S DOUBTING HIS TALENT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW. HE’S BY ALL ACCOUNTS YOU KNOW GOOD CHARACTER. LIKE HE’S NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUES
OR PROBLEMS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT’S — WHEN SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE WRITING THE KIND OF CHEQUES HE’S GOING TO BE GETTING, IT’S FAIR I THINK FOR THE EXPECTATIONS TO BE VERY HIGH. >> Will: YEAH, OKAY, REAL QUICKLY, JUST TO BOTH OF YOU. DO YOU FEEL LIKE DARKO IS THE
KIND OF COACH BASED ON WHAT HE’S SHOWN SO FAR IN THE RELATIONSHIPS HE’S ESTABLISHED TO JUST HANDLE ALL ACCOUNTABILITY GOING FORWARD? NOT ABOUT SCOTTIE BUT JUST IN GENERAL? >> Blake: WE’RE ABOUT TO FIND OUT. >> HE WAS ASKED THAT AND HE
SAYS, LOOK, I’M NEVER GOING TO HANG MY GUY OUT TO DRY IN PUBLIC, BUT IN PRIVATE, THE CONVERSATIONS ARE DIRECT, THEY’RE HONEST, AND, YOU KNOW, HE’S WILLING TO GO TO THOSE DIRECTIONS. I HAVE ASKED PLAYERS OF PREVIOUS GUYS WHO WORKED WITH HIM IN THE
PAST AND HE HAS THAT REPUTATION. HE BUILDS A RELATIONSHIP STRONG ENOUGH THAT HE CAN BE HONEST ENOUGH THAT HE CAN TELL PLAYERS WHAT THEY REALLY NEED TO HEAR. AT THE NBA LEVEL, IT’S A DIFFERENT BEAST. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT’S HOW HE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION WHEN WE
ASKED HIM TODAY. >> Will: WELL, I THINK TO BLAKE’S POINT, WE WILL SEE, AND HOPEFULLY THERE’S A BIG RESPONSE TOMORROW. BUT GRANGE, APPRECIATE YOU, I’M SURE YOU WEREN’T
Will Lou and Blake Murphy are joined by Michael Grange to discuss Scottie Barnes leaving the bench early last night and conflicting comments about his discipline.
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You either see it and know it about someone or you just don’t. You can’t make someone be the guy just because you keep calling him that in the media. Shaq, Kobe, LBJ, MJ, Kawhi, Embiid, Giannis, Ant, JT, Duncan, Luka. These are the guys that you can see it in. Pascal, OG, FVV guys like them just don’t have it. Not the skill nor the temperament. It’s our fault for labeling them as that and then tearing them down because we are disappointed. Too soon to call a 22 y/o “kid” the face of the franchise or the “#1 guy” without even doing anything deserving or indicative of that title. It’s added pressure on the guy that’s going to make him buckle more likely than succeed.
Masai made Scottie the face and voice of the raptors, so its a no brainer that masai and the org should assign someone to coach scottie for media briefings, a professional media/PR coach. Its a support system for scottie to mature easily and give him the tools on how to answer the media. Jsus crist
If LeBron did this, nobody would dare challenge him????
Can someone do the research Grange reported on Pascal situation it was different why is no one referencing Nurse and Pascal altercation why he was sat down or benched. Grange reported that words worst than cursing was used lines were crossed is that reporting false
So SB is getting the kid glove treatment….
The championship feels like a fluke at this point. What a colossal dumpster fire 😂😂😂
This team will NEVER get better. The culture of losing and just being ok with it is ingrained. Honestly, why should any of them care. They're all millionaires 😂😂
Scottie' is a good basketball player. He is not a franchise player. Big mistake on the part of management and Scottie's fandom to think he is.
Other young franchise players who handled Losing gracefully and professionally are Cade Cunningham & Pablo Banchero . .. one could argue raptors have more talent then these 2 teams . But are “ franchise “ player has shown to be a drama queen Scottie Barnes
There is literally no reason for Grange to report "scottie isn't there yet."
Thanks bro. This is kind of nonsense.
The whole second half of the clip with grange was ick.
lol Blake he legit said its my bad. Sorry he doesn't say all the words media expect him to say
It really seemed like Scottie was mad at Poeltl for fumbling 2 passes in a row and in general he's still mad about the trades because now he's the fall guy and he's not capable of carrying the team.
Ain’t nobody cares. These media guys just trynna find something to talk to about
honestly, looks like a kid, whos over talkin about this. He's young and passionate. he gonna show how he feels on the court. he shouldnt have to defend him self about such a minor thing, if its really a thing. whole thing feels more that there was nothing else besides wemby for ppl to "report" on. if it happens every other night maybe we can talk but, they lost by 30, and we think him being mad is wrong? the last 3 seconds of the game? there was 45 mins of wrong before that.
People think I'm hating on Barns because of what I say about his attitude and skillset.
He got too much given to him too early without older players like Pascal around him that's better than him and would help him shoulder this responsibility.
The Raptors organization dropped the ball on this one. The dude needs at lest 3 more years to earn this responsibility.
The only fix for this is to outbid the Pacers this summer for Pascal and bring him back or get a Player who's older wiser that has the same skillset as Pascal or better.
Fred, OG, Pascal, Kyle all had to work for their positions.
No accountability by Scottie for his lack of effort on the floor. Darko should have clearly communicated this to him so when Scottie spoke to the media he would aware of how he looked on the court. Neither Darko or Scottie come out looking very good in regards to this matter.
RJ was 6-10 last night. Not 3-15. If he wasn’t more effective it’s because he spent too many possessions not touching the ball. RJ should not go multiple trips without touching the ball when he’s the best offensive player for the team right now. You guys need to stop with the Fake News and tell the truth. Also, OG was guarding RJ..so was Dort. PG guarded RJ, so did Dillon Brooks. So, stop with the excuses.
He took responsibility and knew the look of it. He is a young guy who was frustrated after a horrible loss. Y'all just want something to complain about because as fans you are frustrated as well. I'm pretty sure you guys did worse things out of frustration at 22 years old.
Vince Carter 2.0 happening here. Just need to find out that Scottie's mom has her own parking space to complete the match.
Would’ve been smart to bring back Kyle
Let's be real, Scottie is not ready to be a leader yet…
To say I don’t know what happened this reporter should do something else terrible reporter omg omg
First, it was pascal. Now it's scotty turn.. Canadian Media and canadan fans are two-faced.. Trying to create drama Over nothing.. Instead of backing up scotty.. He did get fouled.. The game was over he left.. He doesn't owe anybody any explanation.. Next year they wanna trade.. Because everybody's offended now.. Who are you, losers, judge somebody else.. You want him to be fake hug and kiss everybody before he leaves. Canadian should be offended that you have tampons in men's bathrooms..😅
If I was scotty .. I would tell everybody to kiss my ass… I don't owe you nada. Instead of worrying about scotty worry about those Crook referees..😅
why people wanted this for Scottie so soon , I can't understand. he's going to be driven to the ground. Blow up the team they said. keep no veterans…zero culture…who is going to help this kid? Darko?
I think everybody agrees that Lebron James is a leader. He has left the court before the end of a game on numerous occasions
Grange should be fired for these comments. He is clearly in a job he's not ready for.
Perhaps Jordi Fernandez was the correct coach to hire? Scottie for sure needed great players as vets around him that are better than him that can groom him to be great. This is why it's so difficult to hand the keys over to someone who just learned to drive so to speak. To much can go wrong. For the sake of the mental health of our team I hope they figure it out cause the fans (the crappy fans) will eat their mental health like Xmas dinner
Everyone, myself included, need to learn to stop living and dying off every performance, both the lows and highs. He's 22 years old, and three months ago, he was the second option on a struggling play-in team.
It's very clear that he's purposely being rushed into this new role he's never played before, all with new teammates that he's now expected to lead, and all of this is right before the all-star break (that he's playing in). Don't forget how the front office has always preached winning since day one but just traded everyone and threw that out the window. I'm sure the guy is going through a lot of emotions right now. That's not to excuse his immaturity, and I think he should be benched a game. It's just to try and put his last month and a half in perspective.
Here comes the trojan horse Michael "aaaaahhaaahh" Grange. always looking for beef between players. That's his bread and butter.
The "Raptors Show" where hosts talk more about Wemby and traded Raptors' players.
These dudes are actively starting the alienation process of our core piece. Toronto media man… gotta grow up at some point.
Seems like some of you have forgotten that Kyle – the GROAT himself – Lowry left MID game (2 mins left in the 2nd Q) during the playoffs in 2016, to "decompress". It was bizarre as hell at the time.
If there was anytime a leader did something irresponsible or had a bad look, that was it
Scottie leaving with a couple seconds left in a blowout during the regular season is a nothing burger. You people are bored and overly critical.
This Toronto media is disgusting and just like you attacked him last year, you will drive away young talent like Vince Carter. No wonder nobody wants to play in Toronto.
Am I happy with what I’m seeing no.
But am I surprised? No. Why are you guys surprised that scottie isnt playing as well as a 1st option as a 3rd? This is gonna take some time.
Grange is mad weird, and doug just getting shots in when he can smh