Pardon the Interruption | Bucks in trouble – Klay Thompson off bench attracts Lakers & Heat – Wilbon

Pardon the Interruption | Bucks in trouble – Klay Thompson off bench attracts Lakers & Heat – Wilbon

T and it is great to be back with you Tony and just out of curiosity here uh why me I’m Tony Kornheiser it’s it’s Friday who cares I mean nobody’s watching your family’s not even watching rationale they Kinder Thank God It’s Friday um who cares doesn’t tend to end that sentiment

It’s supposed to be relief and joy that we made it together you and me we’re back we’re back earlier this week they put us on ESPN news where dozens might have watched dozens maybe welcome to PTI boys and girl wilbon has turned his back on you so I’m joined by our great friend

The host of The Fabulous podcast Pablo T finds out Mr Pablo [Applause] Tor nice hand and we begin today with Caitlyn Clark Pablo who got 49 points last night a personal high in the Iowa record but the signature moment for Clark last night came early when she hit a three from the Hawkeye’s logo about 35 feet out to get the points that

Established her as the all-time NCAA Women’s scorer Pablo what is the shot that clinched it say about Clark it says that her greatest gift is her Showmanship Tony this the scoring the points yes we salute it it’s impressive it’s historical but when I think about the players I enjoy watching the most I

Think of someone like Caitlyn Clark and now her very specifically this is the Steph Curry thing yes it’s not just that wow this is from very far away it’s that she has a sense of the moment and she Embraces it and she has this thing where arrogance becomes likable because it is

So um it’s so pressure-packed and yet she chooses the highest degree of difficulty way to do it so it’s the stage enter Mastery of it that I am most in awe of even more than the points agree with you Right Down the Line she made no bones about it she said

She wanted to hit the number with a lowo three she hit a few of those last night 49 points in a 40-minute game is a really big deal I have over the last couple of years she thinks pass first that’s what she thinks so she’s not out there

Gunning all the time it is easy to look at her maybe in one game or any one game and think that she’s a Showboat because she is a showbo vot she knows how good she is but you’re 100% right when you say she craves the moment she knows the

Moment she wants the moment out there um she’s she is just simply great fun to watch I mean that that’s that’s my belief it’s it’s a bad Rabbit Hole to go down when you compare men to women and I said the other day that she was Pete marovich of college basketball so I’ll

Try to avoid pejoratives here but nobody moves the needle in college ball like K Clark people stand outside for hours on long lines to watch her play they pay 5 10 and 20 times what face value is to watch her play she is the most popular and best attraction in college

Basketball men or women yes so she’s 98 points away from passing Pete Maravich for the all-time record right very impressive but to me it is the fact that we are not grading on a curve here for people who don’t know the experience what it’s like to watch her the fun of

It is the point it’s more of the point than the statistics and we can argue about who’s the greatest who is it in women’s basketball specifically for my money it’s her but even more than that it is obviously her when it comes to who have I had the most fun watching because

Of the entertainment value this is Show Business Tony I don’t want that to be a pejorative at all it’s actually the greatest compliment I could pay an athlete you made it worth my while I I I think you’re 100% right and by the way after every game when she gets

Interviewed she always thanks her teammates and her coaches and her fans for allowing her to be put in this situation where she can perform like this and some may say that’s by rot but I believe that it’s sincere she used the phrase it takes a village last night I

Loved it loved it yeah yes yes arrogance but likable at the same time it’s a rare trick a rare needle to thread but I want to move to the NBA because uh the Bucks are stumbling Tony they’re stumbling into the all-star break Milwaukee they just lost to lowly Memphis last night

They’re now three and seven the Bucks are in the Doc Rivers era and doc said this quote we had some guys here some guys in Cabo end quote Giannis said to that quote enough with the talking enough with our bleep don’t stick mentality do we really want it are we

Putting in the work when effort is not there it’s very hard for it to go your way end quote so Tony is this loss a big deal a little Deal or No Deal for Milwaukee well it’s it’s not no deal because we thought it was a big deal

When they won a couple of games last week we thought the ship was sailing and now as Michael Ray Richardson might say the ship may be sinking at this point uh I mean I I always thought that we would see the real Milwaukee Bucks with Doc Rivers after the allstar break but maybe

These are the real Milwaukee Bucks with Doc Rivers you can’t Memphis is a terrible team they didn’t even have all their starters there you can’t stress def F and give up 113 to them or 27 to JJ Jackson who’s U I’m not really that familiar with it there does come a point

Pablo we know this um their last coach was going to be fired that was telegraphed for about a month everybody knew that was going to happen but his last 10 games Adrien Griffin was seven and three and DAC is three and seven I think we’re be coming to the point where

It’s fair to ask was this the right move they’re supposed to be a championship team they don’t look like it at all I’ve been asking is this the right move for a long time now because I watch Doc and I like Doc as a as an announcer as a guy

Very friendly personable all that but as a coach Tony it’s one of the great ironies in his in his reputation that he is famed as this guy who brings Good Vibes oh you have a Troublesome locker room bring in Doc Rivers he’s a players coach or at least he knows how to

Communicate with the alpha energy of all these guys allegedly but I’ve seen it in Philadelphia I’ve seen it here I have not seen The Vibes be good I haven’t i’ I’ve seen him struggle with of course difficult personalities Joel embiid Ben Simmons and Philly Jimmy not to that level but I

Would say this with Milwaukee they are supposed to be a finals Contender with a bullet this is Dame Lillard this is Giannis and here are some of the guys that they lost to that Memphis was starting last night Santi Alama zier Williams Trey Jameson Vince Williams Jr and Jordan Goodwin apologies if I

Mispronounced any of those names because I don’t know them very well The Vibes are bad when it comes to this team yeah and by the way it doesn’t help that Damen Lillard’s having a terrible shooting year he’s down significant percentages from the field and from three we move on yeah stay with

Basketball though the great Resurrection last night belonged to Klay Thompson the five-time allar did not start for the Warriors for the first time since March of 2012 a span of 72 seven games Steve ker said Thompson wasn’t thrilled about his decision nor did he expect him to be but

Thompson produced he had 35 points shooting 13 of 22 and seven of 13 from three Pablo what are your thoughts on the benching of Klay Thompson it was a brilliant coaching move and I have two takes on this one is that Steve Kerr made the right decision

Obviously right Klay had his best game of the year ended his game with a great defensive play all of that was encouraging but but the second thing I have to say about this is starting is overrated compared to closing Klay Thompson closed the game when the game

Is in the balance clay was out there when it really mattered most if you can convince him Tony if Steve Kerr can convince him that this is the best version of him that is enormous progress for a team that needs progress in that division so what’s interesting about

That Pablo is it was about a week ago when Klay Thompson was on the bench at the end of games and that was a story for us to talk about and now he’s on the bench at the beginning of games this is what he said this is a direct quote

After the game you can do two things you can pout or you can go out there and respond I thought I did the lad very well tonight unquote now what does that say that says he hated the fact that he didn’t start and that he was auditioning

To start again I don’t think we can fault Kerr with all the wins that he’s had I mean you know Steve Kerr know knows what he’s doing he also said this is not necessarily permanent but he wants to see it and the reason anybody would want to see this is Klay Thompson

Is shooting historically low averages this year so maybe this brings him up but there’s another part too what Golden State wants to do is resurrect itself as a dominating team this is when you have to juggle stuff now they finished six last year even for their good wins

Lately they’re in 10th now this is the time when you do it maybe he’s a Dynamo Off the Bench for the last 30 minutes of a game maybe that’s the the reality that comes from this right then it would be great well yes and there’s a precedent clay himself postgame mentioned Manu

Janobi is the model here Manu is one of the great sixth men of all time he knew his job he knew why he was so important and it just involved an ego hit that typically a guy like Klay Thompson who’s that good has never had to take now it’s time to take

It you know what um Everybody ages differently some less dramatically than others Steph Curry and LeBron age less dramatically than most we don’t know about Klay Thompson yet let’s take a break but coming up when will Scott Boris his bigname free agents finally sign we’re going to ask Jeff Pon and

We’ll also ask him what commissioner Rob Manfred is going to focus on and what he says is going to be his last term as commissioner you know when when Milwaukee gets 35 from Monto Tumo and 24 from little and get Fe pitches and catchers have reported to spring

Training thank God which makes it a perfect time to check in with our great friend Jeff pass and I’m going to the glasses because it’s a complicated question because it’s Scott Boris Scott Boris still has several high-profile unsigned clients as you know including Cody Bellinger and Blake Snell and

Jordan Montgomery and Matt Chapman is the leverage for these guys getting stronger or weaker the reason that they’re still free agents right now is because they believe that they have leverage and that Leverage is going to come during the course of spring training when there are injuries when there’s ineffectiveness

When a team realizes that hey you know maybe we’re not as good as we thought we were and we need to go out and add an impact type player that being said it’s a dangerous game to play being a free agent this late and the notion that

They’re going to get the full value that they’ve been seeking you know Blake Snell won $250 million Cody Bellinger in that same vicinity probably not realistic at this point but I caution you Tony to remember you know half decade ago when the two best free agents

On the market were still there in March one was named Manny Machado the other was named Bryce Harper both of them wound up getting over $300 million so while I don’t think all’s lost for the board bis for who are still out there you know it’s it’s getting it’s getting

A little hairy right now and uh if there’s some nervous players I would understand free agency Jeff always Harry with a Boris client but I want to ask you about a guy specifically who’s under contract right now and is terrifying me because this is what I’m hearing about

Juan stto who my Yankees of course traded for in December Brian Cashman JM of the Yankees is saying this quote odds are this is a one-year situation this is another Boris guy so I ask you this is one year the likeliest outcome in your mind with

Him oh boy I I think a lot of it depends on production Pablo because let’s remember there was another one-year situation two years ago with a New York Yankees they didn’t come to a contract extension before the season with Aaron judge he goes out breaks the American

League home run record and ends up signing for $360 million back with the Yankees as a free agent and so I think it’s going to be a similar sort of scenario where depending not just on how woto produces this year but how the Yankees play it’s going to really factor

In to whether they pursue him full throat this off season and I I think the match is is just so exceptional with the short porch in right field with the power that stto has with the left-handedness he’s made for Yankee Stadium he’s made for New York with the

Way that he produces and the spotlight that he wants so while they may not have something right now I think longterm stto in New York is an exceptional fit so let’s go longer term with a different protagonist of course maybe the biggest character right now is Rob Manfred who

Has said five years from now Jeff January 2029 he’s done he’s out of this job and so do you believe that and if it’s true what do you think he’s going to focus on in these next five years yeah his predecessor Bud seelig said you know what I’m done I’m done in

2009 and then like a year later he signed an extension I’m done in 2012 he stayed on until 2015 so the idea that Rob manfred’s giving himself five years of Runway to potentially change his mind nobody in the game is convinced that he’s going to be done yet like you can

Only love golf so much uh when you getting paid 25 million plus dollars a year that being said there’s a lot of things that he needs to do over the next few years number one handle the local media rights that have imploded and start a streaming service next year as

They’re planning that’ll have half the teams and hopefully get rid of the television blackouts beyond that though is the collective bargaining agreement that expires in 2026 Pablo we remember what happened last time 99 day lockout it is trending toward that same thing this time and if it happens uh you know

Rob manfred’s Legacy is on on the line here I will get you out of here on this everybody sort of thought it was a done deal that the A’s were going to move from Oakland to Las Vegas are there now any doubts about this among other owners yeah Tony there are doubts

Everywhere about the A’s because here’s the one thing that they have proven themsel Adept at being completely incompetent that you know I was talking with somebody yesterday uh doing a story on expansion and you know the the A’s came up because the A’s need to be in

Place in Las Vegas in order for MLB to expand to more teams which is looking like it’s going to be 2030 or so but uh you know this person who’s been dealing with the A’s is like do they do they know what they’re do like is is this a

Joke the whole process has been messed up from the start you know dating back 20 years to them trying to get a stadium in Oakland failing to do so and now they’re going to go to Vegas and all of a sudden it’s going to be smooth sailing

In a city that really hasn’t shown a lot of desire to have you uh the entire thing from the beginning Tony has been a disaster and if this thing fell apart it would surprise absolutely nobody Jeff pleasure to have you thanks for coming on yes pleasure is always mine guys thanks for having

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Pardon the Interruption | “Bucks in trouble – Klay Thompson off bench attracts Lakers and Heat” – Michael Wilbon