Around the Horn | Giannis challenges himself and the Bucks after loss to Grizzlies: ‘Do we want it?’

Around the Horn | Giannis challenges himself and the Bucks after loss to Grizzlies: ‘Do we want it?’

Kevin black is on there’s setting records and then there is logoing the three that puts you over the top the Magnificent and majesty and magic of Caitlyn Clark and we had an FDNY rescue to save a game last night barely Dickinson 13 guys stuck in an elevator for 17 minutes

Look at them coming out I know that elevator I’ve been in that elevator as the only person of the show to been in that we avoid that elevator every day water polo practice it smells it’s creaky it’s sweaty it breaks stuck in an elevator one of my

Biggest fears as well for you guys too two words abut death drop two more words dck oven that’s what I’m worried about like the show you’ve been waiting to do for years this is the show I was bored to do Liu Brooklyn locked from our house the

Liu pool is the Brooklyn hustle rats home pool we love this we’ll get to that in a second Caitlyn Clark of course is how we start the show from more than 30 ft to pass Kelsey Plum for the all time NCA women’s record I mean come on now

The drama and flare and celebration off the charts she had 49 in the game she breaks the NCAA record she’s at 3569 right now how far will she go David D Jor Around the Horn to you on last night’s record and moment and celebration it was an incredible moment a lot of

Times we look at these sort of record-breaking games as these formalities but players talk about how nervous they are when they get to these records talk about LeBron breaking Kareem or Steph getting a three-point record they get nervous there’s something about a player in this Spotlight rising to the occasion three

Straight threes to start the game last one from the logo and just the game she had 49 points she’s responsible for 85% of the team’s points that’s the most that we’ve seen in 2 5 years so the game itself was incredible there’s something about these high pressure situations

That she does and this is no different from that I want to see it keep going you still have Pistol Pete’s record that can be broken and you have Lynette Wood’s record that can you can break on the way there that you know has been

Sort of Lost in history I want to see celebration for those I want to see her keep going I’m glad you bring up Lynette Wood’s name because that was before women’s basketball before the NCA had the idea to have women’s basketball and even before Lynette Woodard is porl

Moore at Fran Maran who has over 4,000 Israel Gutierrez um I’ll turn to you here the one of the many things to love about Caitlyn Clark is that she does not disappoint and you get to a situation where she only needs a handful of points

And she does it in that way right off the bat I mean 20 what 23 points 24 points in the first quarter and with that logo three there is nothing when you show up there’s nothing she can’t do there’s nothing that she lets down on and that’s what I love about her and

That’s what the draw is is for her you see things I see a lot of Steph Curry in her and you watch her and you say wow maybe I can do that or maybe you know my daughter can do that or my sister can do that because she’s six feet tall she’s

Not you know overly you know she’s not huge and she that shot that shot is transferable at any level of basketball and it’s a shot that everybody loves to watch and so you have that ability that shooting ability and her IQ she had 13 assists last night there’s just she

Always comes up and she provides the entertainment for you and last night was especially on the record setting performance and the overall moment well let me just say she’s probably the greatest longdistance score that we’ve seen in the women’s game period and it’s really cool to see her

Get that record on her signature shot which is known in the state of Iowa as the logo three um and I’m also going to say this as someone who went out to see Caitlyn Clark last year when she came to Maryland the arena was not sold out I’m

Going to say this is someone who has purposely gone to cover volunteered to cover the final four for women to cover the WNBA championship and also one morning getting up when when The Wack tournament was in Las Vegas getting up early to go see someone who I love to

Watch Play Back Then by the name of Becky Hammond so I love this game but I must say we in the media have given me some Caitlyn Clark fatigue um over the past few weeks if not this entire season I think yeah and it and it’s felt like

Some of the coverage has been gratuitous to the point of being pandering here’s what I hope I hope that Caitlyn Clark’s Legacy is immediate on the women’s game and that all the energy that we had for her and watching her games and broadcasting games and talking about

Them this year transfers over to next year and we have that same energy if in fact she’s not there she could come back from another year and even going forward because there are so many great women in the game right now and you talk about history let Woodard and pearl Moore

There’s great players right now ju guu Watkins at USC dropped 51 this year a fabulous player so let’s watch her too and enjoy this whole game okay I I have a couple follow-ups I want to ask you there but first I want to invite M KES here on last night’s moment in the

Record setting yeah well I I guess I’ll first say I disagree are we being a little bit hyperbolic perhaps immediately jumping to best of all time conversations maybe but that’s what we do with greats in sport I I’m coming off of a Super Bowl which I covered where

The first day the literally the next day it’s like okay is Patrick Mahomes better than Tom Brady I love that we’re doing that with kayin car I think it speaks to the level of excitement around here generally and I don’t think it detracts from all of the other things that um her

Colleagues her her fellow players rather are doing right now in women’s basketball if anything it shines a bigger Spotlight on them and I think as we move forward one one of my favorite things about this story is that it’s not even close to being over David talked

About how now she’s going after Lynette Wood’s record then Pistol Pete’s record and then we get to March Madness when we talk about this greatest of all time conversation is a title in the offing I mean the ratings are going to be massive and I know I’m going to be glued to the

Television so I I can’t get enough of it personally I want to bring you back in here because there’s a lot right there’s the reception among peers and the coverage and I and I understand what you’re saying that it has surprised you in some ways and we’re at a state here

With women’s basketball the growth is off the charts and then there needs to be a both sides in that it’s not just celebration there needs to be critical eye towards thing I say that because Cheryl swoops one of the greatest players of all time had her opinion and

Comments on the Gilbert Arenas uh podcast we talked about that there were some inaccuracies she’s taken back the inaccuracies but Iowa fans respond to that quite forcefully and I want your opinion of that and then Shaq last night calling Clark the greatest women’s Collegiate player ever I want your

Overall view of this as you use the word pandering yeah well and that’s the gratuitous gratuitousness of it I mean Shaq doesn’t have to say that we don’t have have to do that for Caitlyn Clark she’s making her own statement and I kind of understand Cheryl swops I saw

Cheryl swops play um I remember when she dropped 50 something in Reunion Arena back in Dallas which at the time was the most points scored by anybody there so I understand she didn’t get the shine that she probably thinks she should have gotten for the kind of game that she had

Back in that day so I this is the the the problem with it and I like I said I just hope that this energy is is here for the women’s game going forward because if it isn’t then that means that this is just a passing fancy and it

Absolutely shouldn’t be okay thank you for expanding on that Israel you want to address that please yeah as far as the coverage it really just depends on how you consuming you can go to Shaq and and see what his opinion is on the matter you can go to

More detailed you know stories about it but where I see this also sort of reminds me of Steph Curry is with Steph he had that draw power in college we all wanted to see that we didn’t know how it was going to translate to the pros but

We wanted to see it and celebrate it anyway and then with Steph it wasn’t until his fourth year that he even averaged 20 points a game and now we’re talking about him as possibly the greatest point guard of all time Caitlyn can take those same steps it might take

Her three or four years but she could still be one of the all-time greatest women’s players at any level but right now let’s celebrate what she’s doing and not try to project any further unnecessarily maybe but projecting further is is kind of part of the energy

And the Mania of this Mina you had said that yourself and you know I think the most important thing is you don’t treat him with kloves and I think that’s kind of what you’re talking about Kevin black isone on some level but allowing for the moment to be the moment and feeling the

Passion that’s what sports is feeling the energy of all that we’ve been whing we’ll move on let’s uh take a quote from last night’s NBA action we had some guys here we had some guys in Cabo do rivers after the Bucks lost to Memphis in Memphis to end their first half

And now fall to three and seven since Rivers took over where does rivers go next he goes to coach the All-Star Game W amazing how that works at this All-Star break are you declaring this coaching change a mistake or too soon to tell Israel and are you declaring this Damen Lillard

Trade a mistake or too soon to tell I am not uh claiming this trade to be a mistake I think anytime you get Damen Lillard get a chance to if you’re Milwaukee you absolutely do that what I’m saying is he is part of the problem so far and I’m not saying it’s strictly

A coaching situation I don’t think Adrien Griffin was the entire problem I think Doc Rivers isn’t going to be the entire solution but if you’re Damen Lillard and you are responsible for lifting this team up to I don’t know big or Superstar level or top Elite level

Sorry about that then you have to perform you have to be the guy that’s giving them 28 29 Points a game and shooting it at about 45% his his shooting numbers his attempts are slightly down but so are his percentages and you can’t come in here and say and

Yes Middleton’s missed about a dozen 13 games but that’s not enough to say they haven’t been whole for long enough so I think Damen lard deserves a lot of the responsibility for why things have gone wrong it might be that Giannis is a difficult type of Superstar to play with

Or to play beside I don’t know if Doc Rivers is going to be able to get that out of Damen lard he might be able to fix the team defense but Dame’s got to step up and beat Damen Lillard he’s got to do that next to Giannis that’s not up

To Doc Rivers necessarily David when you consider the Bucks as the way they ended their last three weeks do you think it’s a coaching issue do you think it’s a rotation and team issue uh D all of the above this is a disaster from top to bottom right now

That offense was fifth when Doc Rivers got hired now it is 23rd they played defensively against that uh Grizzlies team doc River says that half of his team was is in Cabo half the Grizzlies team that played last night probably couldn’t afford to go to Cabo because

They’re all on 10day contracts the five best players weren’t there they had you know that team is shooting the worst field goal percentage they were shooting over 50% from the field last night the Bucs had had to play zone to try to stop them but while we’re talking while Izzy

Talks about Dame this is about Giannis the guy who put the crown thing on his head you asked for the better player you asked for the coach you have to figure this thing out Dwayne Wade figured out how to play with LeBron Steph Curry figured out how to play with KD you

Figure out how to play with Dame Lillard and go and be better mean to K your view of Milwaukee as we go to the break yeah there wasn’t a single player in that Grizzly starting lineup who was on the team before 2021 that is an embarrassing loss for Milwaukee and I think it’s

Microcosm for some of their struggles this season not because they’ve been that bad from three in the past they shot 25% um against Memphis but because they’re so dependent on offense because the defense is so mid if they don’t come through on offense they lose and that’s not a Doc Rivers problem but

Unfortunately for him because he joined that team and replaced a coach with the winning record the bar is high and he is going to incur a lot of the blame if they don’t improve quickly and KB well maybe Adrien Griffin should be the coach at the All-Star break I mean

He’s a guy that that had 30 32 wins uh and only got fired because of it so it is a coaching situation and it’s not that easy I thought it would be when you put two superstars together like Giannis and Dame to just start cranking out the

W’s and it’s not that easy and I think a lot of coaches will tell you one of the hardest things to do is to coach multiple Superstars especially in basketball when you we only got five guys on the court and one ball to go around times 11 Dennis Jr 25 gueras 19

Black of stone 13 Buy sell next here’s Bears CEO Kevin waren on wgntv I’m Justin Fields Justin has a rare combination of intelligence of size of strength and speed you forget how big of a of a man he is until you’re up on him he’s not a small man I’m glad he’s on

The Chicago Bears me to kimes Around the Horn you how do you hear Warren there uh I hear it as Justin fields great player would be a shame if a team offered a pick for him maybe a second he’s just so talented so big so fast this to me reads

Like a team that very much so wants to trade their quarterback and very much so wants the league to know how good he is David did you hear Praise or a vote of confidence in that we want to confidently trade you it sounds like a lot of Praise but

Else what else is going to say the benefit is in praising him either you’re going to keep him or you’re going to trade him for the highest possible value My Hope Is that Mina is right and that Justin Fields can start over somewhere else even if he’s a backup he needs to

Be divorced from the Chicago Bear situation and the you know bad offense and calamities they have not been able to figure out how good he even is because he’s been in that situation isra Gutierrez how didd you hear that I recently was in a gym next to

Justin Fields can’t confirm very big but it sounds to me like information show him you lift weights for just of the league yeah you didn’t know he was big inside information but yes I I agree it sounds like you’re just sort of giving his bonafides but it’s also an insult to

Your own organization hey here’s this amazing talent we couldn’t do anything with him you guys take them Kevin Blackstone well before Kevin Warren left the Big 10 he negotiated a monster broadcast contract that I don’t think anyone saw coming so this sounds to me like the business side of Kevin Warren

Some brinksmanship going on here just like Mina suggested give me an odds makers though Kevin blackistone odds Chicago trades Justin Fields by the draft or at around that time uh I would say uh 10 to one I don’t even know how to do that give me

Percentage this is how we played on PTI gooder 55 David Dennis Jr I’m not good at math 70% P to Ka I’ll go 80 80% 10 to one would be 10% then right okay that’s that’s low odd from black and stone we’ll move on buyer cell

To Klay Thompson Off the Bench for the first time since his rookie season scored 35 to carry Golden State through most of this game they had a hang on to beat Utah Israel buy or sell play Off the Bench fulltime oh I’m going to buy it I think

When you’re talking about this phase of your career where you’re just not the same person you used to be once you get to the bench you might as well just embrace it there is no other I mean you might not play but once you’re on the

Bench you’re on the bench and so field free play loose that’s what he looked like yesterday probably as a full-time rotation wise how does it make sense for the golden a team David Dennis Jr uh it makes sense depending on on how pods is playing he looks like the type

Of companion of Steph Curry that Klay used to be but this game was all about why you love Klay Thompson the guy’s been playing on on the bench uh to close out games basically blew their chances of coming back against the Clippers with a brain fart a couple days ago and then

Gets benched and then comes out and plays the best game he’s played all season this is why people root for clay and you know just that Championship stuff that he had has inside of him me Kims yeah I mean I think at this point in his career he really fits the profile

Of the ideal six man yeah defense is a little sus but when he gets hot he can close out a game which is exactly what we saw I love him coming off the bench I love what it does for him I love Mina in the show using so mid at one point and

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Around the Horn | Giannis challenges himself and the Bucks after loss to Grizzlies: ‘Do we want it?’