Charles Barkley: KD is a ‘follower,’ Shaq: Dame, Giannis are ‘being too nice’ | FIRST THINGS FIRST
Go ahead your take I have a prediction of what your take is going to be I’m sick of banging on Durant for this thank you like he’s he is who he is he’s never wavered yes his belief is the coach is the leader I’m the bucket getter leave
Me alone now we can say that that does not follow in the footsteps of the greatest of the greats and it’s a hindrance to him that’s a almost a separate discussion but it’s not like Durant is out here being like I’m the best leader in basketball he has been
Who he is but here’s my other take who are leaders in the NBA who do we know so I I I made a list guys LeBron right Giannis Jimmy unequivocally leaders so now I’m just going to go that doesn’t mean that’s the whole list but does Boston have a
Leader do do the Cavs have a guy that we know is a better leader than Kevin Durant Donovan that it he is based on what I think you do and I would but here’s what I I think Jason Tatum I I look is a better leader than Durant yeah
Okay well then you’re not going to cuz I was going to say and Steph definitely so I thought Draymond was the leader I think Draymond is in one sense but Steph is Steph sets the culture like Tim Duncan did in San Antonio like that he’s definitely the leader okay so Steph so
Steph was a question is joic a leader is Luca a leader is my point is this I don’t think I think jayen well Jaylen Brunson do you junad J Bruns okay Dame is a leader Dame is a leader what evidence do we have that Dame is a better leader than Kevin Durant what
What what are we talking about exactly exactly there are there is a few guys who it’s like what they really mean is able to be the best player on a champion and have everyone followed him LeBron Jimmy hasn’t been the best player on Champion he’s been banging on the door
Giannis I think the Steep thing’s weird because he’s been with Draymond but that’s fine my point is like we’re banging on Durant for something the do the Clippers have a leader I don’t think so I do not think so Russ from the Sixth Man role he’s the exactly so I just
Think it’s unfair with KD all right look it’s interesting CU and I know he and Draymond and KD have had their issues recently but Draymond sitting there looking at Barkley and doesn’t say oh I playay played with him for three years all right and you’re wrong about that he
He just sits there and lets it go now I don’t know if he said something earlier in the broadcast or whatever but at that moment he didn’t say anything and secondly KD’s own words to kind of to your point Nick KD says I don’t want to
Have to be the leader I’m not a leader I’m bad at saying stand behind me and follow me no I’m one of those guys that’s just like let’s do this blank together 27 but that’s who he is that’s when he was actually at the height of
His career went to was going to Golden State obviously that year and so look it’s interesting what you brought up cuz I think there’s leadership and there’s strength of personality and KD is is strong obviously in his own way but you look at his teams Russell Westbrook’s
Stronger personality so he was like the strongest personality on that team in OKC um in Golden State obviously you have Draymond and then it was just Steph’s team in Brooklyn Kyrie was the strongest personality I mean he really was and that has been a hindrance to K but he’s the strongest personality in
Phoenix sure the question is is Devin Booker a leader and I’m not saying he’s not I don’t know but I don’t think Kate I think clearly by Katy’s on mouth he’s not a leader and it does hinder that team and so books got to step up and be
The leader if indeed it’s in okay the guy’s averaging 28 points only five guys have scoring more this year he’s got the fourth most minutes 37 minutes he’s 35 years old on a rebuilt ailles well leading by example the GU just going to work for like over a and it’s like I
Guess my point is like you guys said Jaylen I think people would say shay or Anthony Edwards at this point Edwards is I think people would assume he’s their leader he’s playing regular games he’s changed that but the point I’m making is when KD was at that stage of his career
In OKC no one thought he wasn’t a leader it’s now like retroactively they just knew he was a great player I don’t know if anybody knew thought he was not everyone’s as lucky as us to have someone come in like Kevin wilds and just announce I’m the leader follow you
Got to say it you got to say it early in off uh your reaction Brew it was good advice from Sha he’s absolutely right I mean Giannis Doc and Dame are going to take a hit if they don’t at least get to the finals we know Doc’s gonna be
Criticized right if they somehow got beat in the second round again Dame will be criticized because Dame was like it he was safe in Portland we knew they weren’t good enough to win right nobody cared that he wasn’t defending he could just go out there and get 30 and
Everybody gives him love and Yannis even though he’s got the one title we thought you know could this guy ever be get himself to the goat conversation now nobody’s really thinking that but he’s got rings to win and you got a great teammate in Dame I think though one of
Their challenges there I’ve said this about today’s players a lot of them they they work really hard but they work hard on what they want to work on and they work hard on what they’re already good at in a lot of cases a lot of today’s players including Stars they don’t add
Stuff or they don’t work at what they don’t like or what they don’t want to do and when you watch the bus one we all thought the Giannis Dame pick and roll would be great they don’t run it that much all right that’s coaching right some of it’s coaching some of it’s
Giannis has not been rolling as much sometimes on to the basket where obviously could do damage he pops even though he’s not a shooter so I think they need to that’s what I’m talking about with him work on some of that interior scoring he was interior scoring
When he had 64 and Dame what Shaq could have also said is look I know you never really been a Defender but Dame to win championships you got to defend and I think Dame’s gota buckle down so he don’t really want to defend he got to buckle down on defense Giannis doesn’t
Really want to roll to the basket and Stu like that he got to start doing that they got to do that’s how they lead lead by example and have these guys watch you then you can cuss them out or whatever Shaq said you need to do so wild I think
The buck stock is too low right now oh I mean I think nine months ago this you were bringing a live deer to the set because you believed in them that much before they got Dame after they got Dame I’m going to reveal something to the
Audience one of the reasons we were like you know what we’ll do our NBA picks once football’s over one of the reasons was we talked about it and we were like I think we all like Milwaukee and that’s not you we we’re obviously not going to
Pick someone we don’t believe in and it wasn’t going to create a lot of intrigue if we all had the same team so we said let’s wait and see and now I think I know you would pick Denver and I think you and I don’t think you’d pick
Milwaukee to be playing them and I know you I mean my guess is Clippers like usual but um but not Milwaukee no and I think that ultimately so you got Milwaukee that’s I think right now now they are a valuable stock I think right now they have been
Right I think right now America believes in for example the Clippers way more than they believe in Milwaukee I think right now obviously everyone believes in Boston More Than They believe in Milwaukee even though we haven’t seen Boston do it we have seen Giannis do it
Yeah and so I I’m not acting like it’s perfect and there haven’t been serious warning signs most notably their defensive rating has plummeted and we knew it would get get worse when you go from Drew to Dame but I don’t know if we knew it would have this significant of a
Drop off but what they do have that they didn’t have last year is at the end of these playoff games someone who just go get a bucket in a way different than jannis scan and Dame can still do that so I I don’t think Doc’s the perfect coach and I don’t
Think they’re a perfect team but I think they are being kind of like ah it hasn’t looked exactly the way we wanted it to therefore and I still think they are as Danger as anyone in the East they’re still the second best team in the East
With inbi out for sure you know what that was what remix of a Chief’s take what’s that that’s a remix of a Chief’s take what’s the re how so Midwestern team with an all-time great player who hasn’t doesn’t look right in the regular season but maybe later on it starts to
Coales and if that defense can get better you got an ultimate closer now like I mean it so it wasn’t intentional but as you’re describing it it now the Bucks aren’t the defending champ and I don’t think Giannis has earned the Defence that momes has but I do think he
Might be the best player in the league and at Yiannis and at worst he is at worst third you know what I mean at worst top three and so I I just think Milwaukee is if we get Milwaukee Boston in a playoff series I think I’d pick
Milwaukee do you think it’s at all analogous brw to like when Harden showed up at the Clippers and we were like this doesn’t work and then they figured it out and ripped off doc showing up yeah that that there’s a there’s a little bit of like weathering period and then it
Takes off well I definitely think they’ll adjust Doc and them will adjust and they’ll play much better under doc going forward no question about that with Harden look and we’ll get into this at some point there one thing that made that work Russell Westbrook’s humility
In being willing to go to the bench the problem you guys know I’ve always said Harden is a great point guard when he wants to be he’s showed it in Brooklyn in the brief time they had with Kyrie and KD they didn’t have enough time no
They were all hurt I’m just saying but he is a great point guard now he’s doing it with kg with uh PG and uh Kawai and Russ coming off the bench that was the problem four of them the four of them can’t be on the floor together thanks
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During the NBA All-Star Game’s Simulcast, Charles Barkley said that Devin Booker has to lead the Phoenix Suns to compete since Kevin Durant is a “follower, not a leader.” After the East’s victory, Shaquille O’Neal advises Damian Lillard and Giannis Antetokounmpo to stop “being too nice .. they’re going to have to grab some people by their necks.” Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes react to the TNT analysts’ comments.
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Honestly I’m tired of talking about if guys are leaders or not. Some of the greatest leaders in the sport never even touched a ring.
The, "Who's a Leader?" bit by Nick was borderline irresponsible. Leadership manifests itself in a variety of forms on a team-by-team basis.
Case in point: Miami Heat.
If you asked 20 NBA fans, "Who's the leader of the Heat?" –
3 names would be highly plausible as responses:
• Jimmy
• Spoelstra
• Riley
Of course Steph is One Of the leaders of GS.
Etc., etc…
Nick knows this, too. It's annoying.
I don’t get how these fools can call lebron a leader then say Kd is not.. I mean what makes bron a leader?
Steph is absolutely the warriors leader and a great one
I love how the fox network has turned on Kawhi since he’s been available for 90% of the games and is doing great, keep it up, I remember 2014 and 2019 as well, we keepin receipts
All you need to know about this is that they think Jalen Brunson is the better leader than Jokic
Hahahahaha
KD is a scorer and thats all he wants to be … he´s never going to be a leader and said he doesnt want to .Charles was right ,dunno why it´s a big deal .
That’s a take on KD that really needed to be said. How many of these leaders that we’re asking KD to be are there in the league?
Beal might be the best fit for being a leader on the Suns.
I miss football… hate this part in the year.
That leader debate made no sense, they always bring up to put down KD
Where they leading their team. Nick is 💯% right.
Its crazy how the biggest "negative" against KD isn't really basketball related. He is a weapon to be used in the coaches system. That is basketball.
How u gonna say Tatum Bett leader than KD is a joke. Brussard don't mess with KD just like Barkley that's all.
Steph curry is great leader
I think nick thinks a leader is someone who speaks the most or the loudest guy on the team
Rare win for Nick
Barkley followed multiple stars to Phoenix and Houston!!!! Nothing he says holds weight to me😂😂😂😂
Adam Silver turned the League into a Bunch of Drama Queen$
Quarterback should be leader of football team. Point guard leader of basketball team.
Jokic is the best leader. His team style of play has molded the entire culture of that team.
KD just a baller. Not everyone can be Kobe.
The leader of the NBA is money.
tatum a leader 😂 brody has the most stacked team and loses all the time
In the later clip, it looks like Dame has horns
Steph is the top 2 leader with lebron
KD because of his lack of or not interested in leadership cannot be an all time great. The greatest of all time is the best player on a team and is the leader. Would Bird Magic Russell Jordan let Westbrook ruin that OKC team? It matters. KD is an all time talent. Shooter. Not player.
KD is the modern scoring version of Pippen
The NBA is just lame now mane, they don’t want players to defend, they don’t want Centers/Power Forwards to play under the basket due to the physicality th@‘s why you see Anthony Davis & Joel Embid by the three point line shooting threes with low percentages…….Theres no more GLADIATORS……The pride to try to be one of the GREATEST ever has gone extinct it’s as if when the late great Kobe Bryant retired he took everyone’s spirit with him……If they don’t put some authenticity & make fans believe again the NBA will be wh@ baseball is no offense……It’s only going to be watchable during April…….
Jokic and Steph are not leaders at all 😂😂😂 Steph doesn’t set the culture, that’s would be dray and Kerr, even Klay before Steph.
Jokic isn’t a leader either. His leading style is lead as a team, he never takes things into his own hands and gets down with the team like this and that need to happen. Both all time great players, but neither have strong personalities or are anywhere near leaders.
Stars or no stars: Smart, Haliburton, Morant(with flaws, but his team follows him), Embiid, Edwards, Fox, Kevin Love,
Luka, I do think Jokic is a great leader, just look how his team responds to him
Green (has completely lost it)
ky is a strong personality, but as far from a leader as anyone
Nick's not even a leader on the show ..
KD doesnt have the personailty to be a leader. Steph, Dame, lebron and giannis. Austin reaves could be a good leader
how is the Steph thing weird Nick?? he literally did everything listed as Nick's "criteria" less than two years ago tf
you guys confusing "leading" with "having the biggest mouth"
Draymond defo the leader of gsw he was the gm too crying in the parking lot to get KD and Draymond was the one saying lets try and get Lebron lol Draymond defo leading gsw not steph
KD just wants to hoop without all the dumb politics… I get it… but the Twitter burner accounts says otherwise 😅
KD is a Libra what do you want
Its rly something when you dont say kawhi and jokic to be leaders…both of them are one of the greatest leaders of this generation
LBJ is NOT a leader.
Lebron is not a good leader
Modern nba is filled with whimps. All they care about is their bag and nothing else