Can a young team win an NBA championship?
The Oklahoma City Thunder currently have the second best record in the NBA and the second best point differential in the NBA but are they too young to win an NBA championship despite their regular season dominance Betty markets considered the Thunder less likely to win than the Celtics Nuggets Clippers
Bucks Suns Timberwolf 76ers and even the New York Knicks this is probably because they haven’t made the playoffs since 2020 and their starters have less playoff experience combined than Jason Tatum racked up in his rookie season and yet at the same time 85% of teams with OKC’s point differential have reached
The Conference Finals so is all that youth and inexperience really insurmountable before we answer that let’s understand just how good OKC’s been they’ve gone 25 and N in the last 2 months or so defe beating the Nuggets twice in Denver the Timberwolves twice the Clippers in a blowout and the
Celtics in their December meeting against Minnesota Rudy goar had a hard time chasing Chad hren out on the perimeter for instance on this play chat just initiates the pick and roll Rudy naturally sags under the screen that opens the shot but it’s actually a given go and another dunk so the Wolves went
To a Zone in the second half to keep Rudy closer to the basket but the whole problem is that Chad’s a 40% three-point shooter right now so on backtack possessions the Thunder just went to a little flare screen gobear wants to stay home and that stretches The Zone too
Thin in a recent video for the NBA we talked about how OKC uses flare screens in transition to help spring Shay gilas Alexander in isolation and here it is against the Timberwolves Twin Towers where where chat’s threat to drive scrambles up the defense for a second opening Jaylen Williams who’s shooting
45% from three and this is a really well- coached team Josh Kidd is a weak shooter so defenses will leave him to help on Shay but then he just cuts into the space himself and this works with Chad too he has a ton of room to attack
His man here Mike Connelly realizes that and slides down to help so again giddy just back Cuts him and that’s an easy pass and score the next time they met in January the Wolves put goar on giddy so he could roam off him and clog the paint and this
Downgraded OKC’s shot quality because goar could at least help on penetrators around the hoop and sometimes take away giddy’s cuts on plays like this or he could bother his shot on some of those attempts around the basket this is the theory of how teams might might defend SGA and the thunder
In the postseason shrinking the floor like we’ve seen in Prior playoff matchups and daring giddy to shoot a bunch of low percentage threes but then the Thunder can swap in another 40% three-point shooter like Isaiah Joe and suddenly an opposing Center has nowhere to hide against five Shooters and you
Can see aita zubot struggling to stay with a guard deep into this possession a minute later zubac is trying to avoid coming out onto hren so Paul George takes him instead but blows a tire and then chat can attack and make plays himself so there are Playmakers
Everywhere on this trip they bring zoo into pick and roll chat’s gravity freaks out both Defenders and now it’s jdub’s turn for some no look dime dropping Williams is a great second star because he can initiate the offense in the half court he can also push the pace when
Needed in transition and create that way that’s ridiculous and so on one hand he’s sort of an alternate point guard when needed but he can also just create his own offense and make difficult shots himself against the Knicks he completely took over the game in the fourth quarter
With his shot making and he actually leads the thunder in fourth quarter scoring ranking 12th in the NBA in points per fourth on a scorching 68% % true shooting and because he’s such a good outside shooter he can play off the ball and finish what other players
Started or he can just use his length and slippery penetration to attack the rim himself he’s versatile on the other end too because he can guard someone like Anthony Edwards in isolation that was called a foul but it’s an incredible block for my money and he can also guard
A bigger body like Carl Anthony towns jamming up this Hawk cut then recovering back inside and helping on the rle man and this possession basically goes nowhere because of that physicality and activity even though he’s 22 he reads the game like a veteran spotting this lob and getting up to steal it and
Because he’s so long you’ll see vertical plays like this switching off towns onto goar and defending the lob like a big man regardless of age these are championship level defensive plays Michael jording this block from behind before snapping off a perfect outlet to a streaking Joe and OKC forces more
Turnovers than any other team in the league so part of their success is turning defense into offense after a stop the Thunder have the third most efficient offense in the NBA after a stop so the outcome is a league leading 20 points per game off turnovers and
They play small all around hren but they make up for it with their agility and a ton of speed and that speed means they can get out in transition and punish slower teams like this they also make up for that size with length so SGA and Jaylen Williams can disrupt passing
Lanes and they even have an elite rim protector in homr waiting at the basket and then Chad himself is fast enough to outrun other big men down the floor in transition home is only a 21-year-old rookie but he already looks like a big time player and he plays with an
Awareness and command that is often reserved for older stars look at his patience here on this play staying down against kawii Leonard only to recover and block zubot and on other plays you’ll see sage like awareness switching onto goar in the post and then spotting the breakdown early to slam on the
Brakes and then incredible verticality to stop and the rim and if that’s not enough he hustles to the corner but stays down on the closeout and that is veteran likee discipline so can Talent Poise and good coaching overcome all this youth last year nuggets were one of the youngest
Title winners of the three-point ERA with an average age of 27 A2 on February 1st of the season when the Warriors broke through in 2015 they were just under 27 with three starters under 25 the Thunder average age is just over 24 with a whopping six rotation players under the age of
25 they’d likely pass the 77 Trailblazers as the youngest NBA champ in league history back when future MVP Bill Walton led a team with five rotation guys who were also under 25 heck only one other team in the three-point era has even made the finals with an average age around 25 and that
Was way back in 1981 when the 40 and 42 Rockets defeated the 40 and 42 Kansas City Kings before losing to the Celtics in the NBA Finals it’s actually really rare for any young team to be this good in the regular season the 2022 Memphis Grizzlies were an under 25 Squad that
Outscored opponents by at least five points per game and the other team to do that this century was the 2011 Thunder and that OKC team is probably the closest comparison to this one they had a big three that was even younger with their four top players aged 22 or below
And they made it all the way to the Conference Finals in a way this is actually good news for the Thunder because it means that so few young teams have ever been in this position meaning even though it’s rarely happened the odds of it happening when you’re this
Good might not be super low OKC is currently top five in offense and defense and they have the best point differential in the league against top 10 teams so they certainly have the footprint of a championship level Squad and look I’m not saying their inexperience and youth doesn’t hurt them
We have no idea if defenses will chip away at Shay’s Effectiveness and what kind of playoff moves Mark dagel has in his bag but if a really young team is going to break convention and make the finals or even win at all this group of versatile stars that plays well beyond
Their Years is as good of a candidate as any you can check out that Shay video on the NBA YouTube channel or the NBA app otherwise you can support this channel directly at patreon.com thinking bask we have a stats leaderboard that updates regularly throughout the season for
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Are the Oklahoma City too young to win an NBA title? Do they need more experience? This detailed film breakdown and scouting report explores OKC’s dominant regular season, their offensive versatility, coaching and more in comparison with other good young teams in NBA history and the youngest NBA title contenders of the 3–point era.
**All ages in the video are weighted by minutes played, based on player ages on February 1st of a given year.
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45 Comments
No. It’s a veterans league.
All this and not a mention of Cason Wallace and Dort, I mean this team is absolutely stacked
These kids ain’t winning… lost to Brooklyn, Detroit & San Antonio 🚮
The thunder back when they had Durant Russ and harden I thought was the best chance a young team had to win it all. I’ll still believe that until I see otherwise imo.
It depends on how quickly they adapt to playoff intensity. They're a historic regular season team for their age, but they don't know how the intensity and physicality of the playoffs will hit them nor how teams will gameplan for them over a 7 game series. They have the talent to get far or even win, but talent isn't enough to win you championships.
They gave me the feeling of 2021 suns team
They need to stick together and need 2 more years.
Playoff atmosphere is real. They will get smoked by warriors or lakers easily if they got the spot
I've watched a lot of okc games. The thing they will face in the playoffs that they haven't seen a ton of in the regular season is the matchup hunting that opponents spam in the playoffs. From my eye, OKC's most potent lineup is the one that replaces giddey with Isiah joe. That lineup will get brutalized by matchup hunting in the playoffs. Okc tried to address this with the hayward acquisition but I'm skeptical. Okc also feasts offensively on easy transition baskets which will dissipate in the playoffs
i think OKC has a better shot at a chip this year then LA, Warriors, Suns….etc. i think the only true challenge will come when they play against Denver in the second round. i would probably put them 4th best odds behind Boston, Denver and Clippers to win a ring.
I think Chet is the x factor. If Wemby keeps pushing Chet further into his progression defensively, I definitely think they could beat anyone.
This playoff is the chance for Giddey to prove his spot on the team
josh giddy is pretty overrated, I think.
I don’t necessarily think they’re too young the biggest factor imo is Josh Giddey playing meaningful minutes for them in the playoffs
Jalen Williams, Chet, SGA, are all just hyper efficient. They are all like above 62% true shooting. All their players have surprising good/mature shoot selection, despite being young. When a team has so many hyper efficient scorers, it simply would always be championship contender, no matter how young they are.
The bigger question is can they keep it.
Love the thunder vids
Lakers and warriors hope they could run into OKC first round. Realistically those older teams win. Just the experience and game planing for 4 game at least is what makes them top them
I think It has to be asked if we are seeing the next Larry bird with Chet Holgrem. They have some similar skills but that is not what I mean. Larry Joined the Celtics and made the middling Celtics a serious playoff team immediately. This Thunder team is basically same exact team it was last year, the only real difference is Chet. So what has to be asked is this the next Bird and Celtics where we see them as a Perennial playoff contender with regular finals appearances. Even as good is SGA is I feel like Chet has the ability to be an All-time great where it feels like SGA is just going to be like a Kevin McHale, very excellent and proficient but just out shined by a generational talent.
Great vid, cant wait for the playoffs
I really like how this team was built but they have no chance against playoff joker. He will average a 30 point triple double on them shooting almost 60% and the rest of the starters are also top big
Memphis last year looks unstoppable but they lose to a play-in team lakers
Today's defense is likely no need to choke like few year's ago
I forgot what Jokic but he did say something about this Thunder team I think he was saying they were gonna be good
Imo, it's not about your age per se, but your playoff experience before breaking thru. Both the '15 warriors and last years nuggets had playoff experience and failures before breaking thru.
I actually really love this Thunder squad and hope they make a deep run. Wouldnt mind if they won it all either.
Injust wish there fans quit drinking delulu juice and admitted Wemby > Chet 😂
Just hope that even if they don't win they wont break it up like they did in the 2011-2012 okc team.
One underrated part of shai’s scoring is the consistency. 75% of his games are at least 30 points but his median is 32, and all of his non outlier games are 24 pts or above. That means he is almost gareeted to score at least 24 more than any other player.
As much as I dislike the snobby OKC fans, I cannot deny and believe they are very talented and will make some noise in the playoffs this year
that bird clip was nasty
They ain't winning a chip. They have one of the friendliest whistle's I have seen in the regular season. Won't happen in the play offs.
Is it…What if they had paid Harden instead of Ibaka? Or is it….what if Westbrook was a winner?
OKC takes on the characteristics of its best player in SGA and is therefore POISED. I trust this team a lot more than other young teams like the Timberwolves although they virtually have the same records as of this writing. I also think Mark Daigneault is a top 5 coach in the NBA. They may not win it all this year because you must first fail before you succeed and experience matters in the playoffs but they have as good a chance of winning the title as anyone in the league moving forward. This team is for REAL.
i hope we see more talent than ever instead of dynasties
just remember; the okc thunder still have like three potentially top 5 picks coming in the next couple drafts; PLUS the thunder will have cap space available. this team might have TOO many assets very soon.
Big thing for me is you never hear about any BS coming out of OKC. They're all young but they're all bought in and committed
EDIT Except for that one thing
You can’t know who these players and this coach are until they get tested by the playoffs. Maybe Shai is Jimmy Butler and takes it up another level, maybe he is James Harden and gives you some 3-16 with three boards and six turnover games. Maybe their coach cannot adjust on the fly in the playoffs.
Yes, inexperience has a downside too. But six other teams will tend to play tight because they all have championship expectations and were put together to get rings this season. Denver are the champs and they will play with the confidence of champs, and then OKC pretty much feels like they get a free swing at this. No one is going to tell OKC they should have done better, unless they get swept in the first round, and that isn’t going to happen.
It is a classic in sports, the young upstart coming in all happy to be there and relaxed, and that being relaxed taking them a long way.
Not counting on OKC to beat Denver in a series, but I give them a decent chance of doing it and would not be surprised.
Part of the problem is that this is the regular season. I think the playoffs will be difference. They CAN still win, but I can see why there is a good amount of skepticism.
Lebron would beat this team in round one easy.
ur glazing
they will choke in the playoffs
7:42 Ppl sleep hard on Bill Walton.
The blazers ran the whole offense through Bill. He was Jokic-esqe with the ball
I want my boy giddy to make a comeback after the cancelled him
I forget who I heard it from but it was something to the effect of "just cause it ain't been done, doesn't mean it can't be done."
in theory, of course… but in reality, not this team and not against these other teams… they are like 5th best team in the west, don't get confused by the record
The KD, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka area Thunder team lost in the Finals against The Heatles. This Thunder team could win it all this year.