Around the Horn react Warriors pay price for disrespecting Celtics; LeBron reflects on 40K milestone

Around the Horn react Warriors pay price for disrespecting Celtics; LeBron reflects on 40K milestone

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Bounce pass is a bounce pass those are passes with bounces let’s start with this have you ever seen a 7423 run before trick question that’s not a run that’s a fipa and Beatdown it was 2121 it finished 140 to 88 52 Point final margin let’s put

Golden State losing by 52 to the side just for a second except for the quote from Steph Curry calling the Celtics the best team in the league Israel Gutierrez Around the Horn to you what about this year Celtics team looks different and take me through a path for them from

Being the best team in the league in the regular season which we’ve kind of seen before to a championship team for them which we’ve never seen yeah I’m kind of with Steph here and what looks different is the confidence I believe the confidence comes from having a great team around

You Chris dpz inas I know he didn’t play yesterday he’s been such a huge key to this team and how much better they’ve played Derek White playing at an All-Star level Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown kind of maybe taking a step back in the scoring area to just sort of let

Everybody else flourish I think it’s been obvious they’ve been the best team in the regular season all season long from the very beginning I think the hesitancy is hey what do they look like in the playoffs we haven’t seen let’s say Chris DS porzingis go deep into the

Playoffs we haven’t seen this team you know get by Miami very easily okay and we’ve seen them in the against the Warriors and they were favored going into that not really do especially well there’s a confidence level I believe Steph Curry there’s a confidence level there because they’re better than they

Were last year they have an experience level that they had didn’t have you know maybe last year after losing that almost coming back to that 03 deficit and they’re just different mentally you saw Jaylen Brown there the Warriors tried to get into his head by giving him all that

Space he just took it and took over the game absolutely owned it I think as as a Celtics team as a whole they just don’t have any holes and so they recognize that and they feel like they are just a better team okay so no holes to this team is rugu tier

And the biggest change has been mental it’s that they have confidence Justin Tinsley do you see a team that can be best in the regular season also apply that to the postseason yes it can but it remains to be seen if that’s the case but during the broadcast yesterday they talked

About Joe moula and how comfortable he was this second year in this role so and and it plays like that on the court that game was so bad yesterday the Celtics actually turned 511 into an actual number like that’s a mythical number because that was so much like at one

Point they were on a 50 to 11 run but that’s how good this team has been the whole season man they had they’re on Pace for a net efficiency that that mirrors the 90 96 97 Bulls they’ve won 10 straight games shooting 50% from the field like they’re bringing NCAA

Football back they need to bring NBA Jam back because this team is literally on fire that’s how good they are and they look like they know we have to get it done this year because this is the best team that we’ve had in quite some time time and to Izzy’s credit it’s that

Confidence that beds through all right the very nebulous confidence that we speak of Monica MC nuts is there something different about this year’s Celtics well I think it’s just a matter of time but I will add to JT’s acknowledgement of mythical numbers they’ve also been deep in the postseason

Eenp times and so they have a level of experience there that now it’s all starting to come together yesterday or this weekend rather was Jason Tatum’s 26th birthday while these guys are still young in the grand scheme of things they are hitting their NBA Prime and everybody has another year under their

Belt from the coaching staff to the two additions in particular Drew holiday when you talk about this team being different the entire year now for Derek White having an arguably All-Star caliber year so to me the time that they’ve been able to spend together has only cemented that they better get it

Done this year har are you convinced this year Celtics are different than last year Celtics year before Celtics it it certainly feels like it I mean as it pertains to the game when Steph Curry air balled two three-pointers in the first quarter that kind of let us know

That the warriors were going to be in trouble no matter what uh but the run that the Celtics team is on right now the fact that they are averaging a 22-point margin of victory over these 11 wins is absolutely incredible and there’s no denying that greatness I he had mentioned that they challenged

Jaylen Brown to go ahead and beat them and he scored 19 points in seven minutes so they tackled everything head-on last night the thing that I still cannot come to grips with the question that I still have with regards to the Celtics team is

Can they do this in May and June we saw that they it looked like they had a lot put together last year and they sort of just crumbled uh you know I I would hope that Joe Missoula seems like he has learned a lot from last year and I think

That that is going to be a big difference for them and we’ve talked about the experience that they do have but because of that playoff experience from last year and how that went and because the Denver Nuggets still exists I’m still a little hesitant to go all the way with them Gutierrez back

In I’ll give you one concern Tony because everybody loves the Boston Celtics here I am a little concerned about their playoff depth I don’t know if you can necessarily play Payton Pritchard Hower maybe even Luke cornette what am I doing with those guys uh maybe

You might not be able to play them heavy minutes in the playoffs and maybe they become a little bit more predictable offensively you never really know but I do think that obviously if you’re playing Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown and and Chris Taps porzingis more minutes not going to be something you complain

About right got to talk about Golden State they lost by 52 there there’s losing by there’s a school of thought you lose by 52 it’s the same as losing by too but also they lost by 52 Monica is that something or nothing well is there something in between something and nothing look Steph

Curry is one of the most pragmatic interviews you’ll have in the NBA he talked about the praise that Boston rightfully deserved after that game but earlier in the week he also was very candid about this team being an average team and so I think you saw that yes

They had won eight consecutive Road victories and they were on a little bit of a hot streak but they’ve got real work to do to make any real impact for us to believe that they are a contender this year we’ve been horn we’ll move on History every game from Kaitlyn Clark

Let’s go around that horn passing Pete Maravich with those technical free throws on Senior Day her last regular season home game ever for Iowa beating the number two team in the country taking those shoves and yes giving those shoves in this game and also freaking out meeting her Idol meeting up with her

Again Maya Moore that is a full day she will be the goat of college basketball the championship is keeping her from being the goat she is one of the best but if she gets a championship she will be the goat and the reason why there are only two top 100 recruits out

Of the top seven scores on this Iowa team it’s in part due to how great she is but it’s also because she does not have very much help on this team if she wins with this team she becomes the goat oo fire take from Carter there I’ll give

Her or you’ll get her fire Monica mcnut is that the way you see it uh I rest my case as well your honor like yes that’s exactly the way you see it the thing that is hanging up the goat conversation is the well-roundedness and the Rings and let’s be fair we talk

About the hardware when we have the goat conversation in any other Sport and so women’s basketball in this case is no different Caitlin has blown our minds with her offensive abilities both to score and facilitate she’s propelling the women’s games forward she’s capitalizing on a time when there are

More eyeballs on the sport than there have ever been so one ring opposed to let’s say four for Brianna Stewart three for Diana to Rossi two for uh Cheryl Miller Monica you’d say one is enough with the scoring record she just set to be the greatest of all

Time I I do I do because I think to Drea’s point you will look at those rosters DT’s teammate with sub at one point swing cash Brianna Stewart there’s a plethora of players from from that team that went on to have WNBA careers she just does not have the support around her Justin

Tinsley I agree and I feel like I need to take a cold shower right now because we’re talking about a woman who you know she has more points than anybody of course but she’s also Sixth and assist she’s the she’s the only college basketball player ever to lead a major

Conference in scoring an assist for four years but guess what when you’re talking greatest of all time we’re talking about greatest you have to achieve your sports’s greatest feat which is a championship if she gets that as as Andrea said it’s undeniable it’s not even Up For Debate

Not even Up For Debate we have a debate about everything on this show some have said this debate is happening too quickly that this debate is just being prisoner of a moment or a recency bias is r gutier i turn to you here’s the thing that makes me a

Little bit uncomfortable with this and I actually think Andrea Carter pointed it out uh perfectly she said College greatest player of all time because I mean look we have enough WNBA has been around for what 30 years we have enough of evidence or enough of a league to say

Hey let’s go ahead and let them play the professional career out before we say who’s the greatest of all time but if we’re just sticking to college I agree with Carter there and yes she has to be the greatest of all time in college basketball women’s college basketball

Because she doesn’t have the Superstar teammates now you want to argue hey put Diana terasi on Iowa Prime Diana terasi College on Iowa team would she be doing the same things maybe but we don’t have any evidence of that all you can do is see what’s right in front of you and I

Think when you talk about her sort of of power in the world I know it’s not what we’re talking about right now but Travis Scott showed up to that game and there was a camera that followed him as he was entering and as he entered he dapped up

Jake from State Farm and it’s talk about world colliding and Caitlyn Clark bringing people together it’s absolutely crazy this girl D he needed to give was to Maya Moore who was sitting right next to Jake not sure their eyes met each other but that was the daap he needed Harry lyes

Jr first off I just got to acknowledge Andrea Carter Maya Moore to Atlanta Legends but this feels like the healthiest goat debate that we have potentially ever had because when we do talk about the goat debate we’re always talking about Rings which would put Brandon Stewart Diana terasi Cheryl

Miller if we wanted to go Lu Al Cinder Kareem Abdul Jabar like that would be one thing but when we talk about the totality of what she has done and what she has meant to the game the comparison that I always come back to not necessarily from playing style I know we

Do that with the three-pointers but to me she is a rock star in the way that only Steph Curry has also been the last 25 years the way that that factors into this debate for you how they they changed the literal game that we’re playing and watching in that day yes and

You you have to because again to me where we go with the goat conversation is usually just about all accolades when she truly has changed the game brought attention to not just women’s basketball but men’s college basketball as well I don’t think at least in terms of oncore performance she gets nearly enough

Credit for one taking that team to the final four last year and two beating a South Carolina team that every single person in the world thought was a lock to win the championship last year and then if she were to do that this year and beat a team that again and we think

South Carolina’s probably a lock to win the championship this year if she beats that team and wins a championship I think it is more than a fair debate to put her in the goat conversation and say she is the wom college basketball player of all

Time uh when you look at the numbers the attendance when she shows up to teams if it’s not four times more it’s at least two times more and so she has been a for that factors into your your goat debate as well for you well not quite into my

Goat debate but what I will say of this is that she is maximizing the moment with the eyes being the biggest they’ve ever been on this Sport and I just hope that the energy around the sport in totality continues for folks that have put the game on Stewart totality four

Championships four most outstanding players Kareem Abdul Jabar three championships in his three years three most outstanding players and maybe similar to Clark the game changed around Kareem right they there was rule changes around him that is your college goat conversation rule changes taking a break by our all next

They said no more blocking like Kareem blocks we got to we got to change the rule that’s what they said no D 4 2140 alltime combine record we are not worthy the best part was he ran a 425 and said you know what I’m going to do

It again and he knew he could go lower and the next best part was the crowd reaction love it Marcel Lis filing from the combine with an interesting note from NFL team that the 40 has lost its utility to front office personnel and data analysts around the league in the modern era hm

Harry do you believe a 42140 has lost its utility to NFL teams uh I will sell that idea I will buy that Marcel’s piece Honestly made me think about this in a different way and you know it’s insightful and and shows all the advancements and things like

That but Tony there is never going to be a world where I see a 421 run at the combine and don’t go out I mean come on man like like what what are we talking about here you know what and I’ll give you this like for all the

Advancements that have been made yes there are different ways to measure speed this that and the third it is just like our analytics or information that we like to use and it is a tool things that you take into consideration When selecting a player so no it has not lost

I love the auga metric from ly gooder is 42140 still have utility to NFL teams well yeah of course there’s always a space there’s always going to be an offensive coordinator that says hey give me the guy that can run the the fastest I could find a way to put him in space

And and show him off but it is kind of like drafting a guy in basketball based strictly off of a vertical leap or off of a dunk contest you have to be able to play football you can’t just be the fast guy there’s always been track guys that

Haven’t been able to translate just because they perfect sprinting doesn’t mean they perfect American football yeah I don’t think it’s the dominant metric of success as it as it once was puka aula had the 35th fastest time in the 40 last year but but he went the fastest in

The gauntlet which is actual football drill so how do you read defenses how does that speed translate on the game tape that will always matter more more than running in a straight line for 40 yards untouched and Monica mcnut I mean the NFL is doing all types

Of tracking on field so they have to be able to like Harry said use this as a tool and not the dominant tool like JT said to see where it fits in terms of what you’re trying to do I think it comes down to ultimately your decision

Makers being able to apply this very fantastic auga stat to what your team does I know you guys know but it broke the previous record of 4.22 who had said that a wide receiver John Ross who was drafted one pick ahead of Patrick Mahomes and has not had the

Same how’d that work out buy or sell to LeBron 40,000 did you ever think the game and LeBron would get here 40,000 points what it means but also what LeBron said after the game take a listen what would you tell 18-year-old LeBron about the journey to becoming an Olympic gold medalist a four-time

Champion and now scoring 40,000 points um I wouldn’t tell him anything honestly because 18yearold LeBron had a great head on his shoulders to be quite honest with you everybody wanted to see me fail when I got to the league I I wish that on no kid and no sport to have to have

This type of pressure put on them and everybody wanted to see you fail Israel how do you hear the reflective Lebron after 40K well that was covering the league on a daily basis when he got drafted and I didn’t hear that hatred didn’t feel that hatred coming from people who like he

Says wanted to see him fail but I’m not LeBron James I didn’t experience everything on a daily basis like I would imagine a 16-year-old black uh basketball player from the Midwest sort of being crowned the king before he’s even an adult is going to have certain

People acting a certain way and maybe he heard those things and maybe those people around him heard certain things more than we did and so I guess all of this says to me if you’re LeBron James no matter how hard you think it is to get where he is it’s even harder than

You think it was Justin sinsley yeah my perspective isn’t LeBron’s and LeBron’s he he’s the only guy that’s lived this entire Journey from day one till right now so it’s clear to see that those doubts or people wishing a downfall on him those things stick to his ribs even to this day and

That’s human nature to be fueled by doubt and criticism and LeBron’s no different Monica mcnut what a treat to say you have no advice for your younger self like I wish I can say that that’s not the case you believe do you believe it it’s the question I’m asking yeah I don’t believe

It in my own case but I did appreciate him acknowledging the pressure that he was under at that age and I think we see that in real time when last week he shot down the comments around his son and his draft stock and so that I think is

Something that we all have to sit with there are very few people that live up to the expectations and there were no higher expectations than for what LeBron was supposed to do Harry l Jr LeBron 11-year-old me was rooting for you buddy so there’s one person at least

Right but I feel like he was speaking to I feel like he was speaking to three specific groups of people here though he was talking to people who call themselves Michael Jordan STS he was talking to people who call themselves Kobe briyan stands and he was talking to

People who gave him his biggest criticism during the especially the earlyer portion of his career that say he wasn’t a score and that he want never wanted to take the big shot and here we are 40,000 points later with the most unbreakable record of so acknowledge that that existed though I mean there

There’s been some saying well how can the you know and then and then there’s others acknowledging that there were some who were trying to write history from a different perspective yeah for sure it’s hard to not tell a guy that you know he shouldn’t feel that way when there were

Certainly people that wanted to see him fail I get where he’s coming from 40,000 Kurt goldsbury does the artwork of course he does it better than anybody with how the shots looked and this wind up looking both like a volcano to me and a bun cake all these shot just poured in

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Around the Horn react Warriors pay price for disrespecting Celtics; LeBron reflects on 40K milestone