Around the Horn reacts to Nuggets sweep season series vs. Celtics, re-establish claim as NBA’s best

Around the Horn reacts to Nuggets sweep season series vs. Celtics, re-establish claim as NBA’s best

Night game saving Game ending Block You’ve seen buzzer beaters before of course you’ve seen Game ending blocks as well I remember Joby UNH hardened have you ever seen a block to win a game where the guy hits his head on the rim also last night maybe the most

Unstoppable play in the game today ending the Celtics night yic to Gordon for that oop I Love That Let’s Go Round The hord were there Celtics fans who thought that was a Miss shot I think they were they were trying to say that was that was a shot attempt from yic that’s

That’s what they do no it was an Al that’s what they do Gordon had the put back about a minute earlier and then last minute another opportunity for Jason Tatum to put his stamp on a big game and win it no didn’t fall and then that alley you nuggets 115 Celtics

109 another 30-point triple double for joic for the Seas a weak with a 52-point win over Golden State a 22-point blown lead loss to Cleveland and now this loss their 0 and2 versus the Champs they’re two and five versus the top four in the west it’s the end of the Tatum MVP

Conversation Brian wior told Stephen A on first take this morning I’d like your take on that as well bill was this about how bad Boston and Tatum were or is that not giv the Champs enough credit no this is about how bad Boston and Tatum were

Tatum is out of the MVP race he can’t win it like this they can’t win without him playing any better than that you know Tony he ranks 27th out of 28 qualified Shooters in clutch shooting this year shooting 32% in the clutch wow he missed a bad bad shot yesterday had

Two turnovers in transition was list around the basket in the last two games he’s two for 14 in the fourth quarter he’s got to show up he when when he scores 15 points or less the Celtics are 0 and three they need tum to win the championship he’s not there I don’t know

Where he is but he’s not there now crin I don’t have him in my MVP mix right now but that you know the whole idea that he’s a face of the league I’m wondering like where this where where all this talk came from when it should have very

Quickly and very and early on been about shayr Alexander about Giannis onent to coupone oh how about nicoa yic this team had no answer for him in either of their meetings so far this season he’s more physical than they’re able to handle Chris stops porzingis isn’t strong

Enough to put on him whether they’re single coverage double coverage trying to bring Drew holiday in in the stretch Al Horford in at points this is going to be a problem if this is the ultimate finals matchup that we see in a couple of months which it very well may be but

Containing Nicole yic who had a triple double without even attempting a three-pointer last night Tony is a big problem for this Boston team that’s your takeaway the Champs winning over Boston Harry l Jr to you yeah Tony I want to give the champster credit I can’t believe we are

A Denver Nuggets championship ship removed and the lot a lot like what we were doing last year was saying hey like this is why this team lost and not why the Nuggets won I’m not doing that with this team anymore they have proven themselves to be the standard we

Literally talked about Monday the streak that the Celtics were on and how much they were beating teams by and I sat here and said but that team in Denver still exists and they have their number they’re 2-0 against them this year 3-1 the last two years Nicole yic is

Averaging 31.3 Points 11 rebounds and nine assists against them the only team he’s scoring better against is the Washington Wizards so until somebody gets their best better than the Nuggets best my confidence is going to lie with that team and Pablo Tor yeah let me just characterize why there has been thirst

For Jason Tatum Jason Tatum Tony is American he’s an American would be superstar I think he is a superstar still but the the names that Courtney mentioned all those guys Giannis Shay yic um these are guys what is this 1950 here yes okay but the point is when it

Comes to who could be the the face of this sport in America that’s the best hope not named Anthony Edwards who will talk about that we have and so look I want to say this about Jason Tatum Jason Tatum is still really good this team did

Just beat the Warriors by 50 last week the question is are they as good as the nuggets and the answer definitively head-to-head is no and so he’s confirmed our priors all of that is true it’s just that he’s just not as good as we need how you consider that stat that plash

Had earlier in the show that he’s basically last among high volume players in the NBA in the clutch Under Pressure it has been a problem three years in a row to pl’s point he’s gotten worse in clutch time that is a problem it’s a real problem

For him we’ve been horn we’ll move on I say again find me a better finish than Anthony Edwards last night you can what a win for Minnesota the day they learned they would be without Carl Anthony towns for a month at least 44 for Edwards to win in Indie going 18 of 35

Around the Horn Harry LS Jr on that block that line that he took 35 shots his cat wasn’t playing and this upcoming stretch for Edwards and the t-wolves Tony I mean it just speaks to the type of player that he is and the superstar

That he I feel like he is now and that he can still become uh and you mentioned carlington towns being out he has an opportunity to step up and continue to raise his stock in such a way he’s averaging 37 points in the three games that Carl Anthony towns is not playing I

Know this timberwol team is 29 and 26 last two years when cat isn’t in the lineup but to me when we look at all of the young players in the n in the NBA you hear a lot of them say that they looked up to Kobe Bryant they want to

Fulfill the mamb mentality and sort of show that Anthony Edwards is the one guy who actually even comes close to embodying that and so when you have this opportunity now in this stretch where we’re coming down to the end of the year and you’re going to have to meet that I

Think it’s the perfect opportunity for him to maybe become the next face of the NBA why are we still having a convers I don’t understand go all right let’s put face to the n n ba to the side for a second Pablo Tori on what’s at stake

Here for the Timberwolves the next week next month without T yes so so they’re the number one seed Carl towns is the other Superstar on this team Anthony Edwards is the better player right now so the question is who’s number three who’s going to step up is it Jaden

McDaniels is it Mike connley those are not names that Inspire confidence what Anthony Edwards is doing though in the absence of cat Tony is he’s building an actual Legend what he did he misses a free throw and he does that in response that just one of those things that

Sticks right when we tell the story of this guy we’re going to mention that play because it’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen in sports Point Blank now is there enough for this team if cat misses more and more and more time where they’re still

Going to contend without their second best player Carl Anthony towns the answer is no but right now Anthony Edward is going to use this time to build the legend and that’s what this game go flashi yeah in a weird way this is actually good good for the t-wolves for

In the short run they they scored 66 points in the paint last night they season High getting cat out of there cat not taking up the space a lot of the players have more freedom to play Naz played a great game McDaniel’s played a great game and I’ve been waiting for ant

To show up and he’s been tremendous and if if he’s this energized he can probably carry them through to the first round of the playoffs when they get cat back and Corney Cronin if we’re talking about the clutch Anthony Edwards came through there last night 11 of their 13 points in the final

Five minutes of that game and the question of can they survive without Carl Anthony towns who spends a lot of time over on the three-point line and not necessarily in the paint I think they can I think they can keep this number one seed for a little bit because

They have the potential to own those tiebreakers over the Thunder Over the Clippers and the nuggets the problem is they play the Nuggets three more times this season Kyle Anderson inserted into the starting lineup that means the defense is going to get better an increased role for Nas Reed something

That he’s earned and something that he’s shown he’s capable of of handling this season I think that can lead to them maintaining this but if he’s out more than a month cat that is that’s when my concern is going to creep in for this wolves Pablo back in I want to make the

Point though too the ceiling of Anthony Edwards why it’s special is the defense the block was a highlight but Tony this speaks to a larger all defensive caliber campaign if this guy becomes a dude who scores 30 a night and also he’s one of the best defenders on the perimeter in

The league that is a way player who is extraordinarily rare historically not just among the class of players he’s with now all you invoked Kobe I see Jordan not in the final stat line or anything I just see Jordan physically flashy I’ll give you the last word here

Yeah the one seat is so important for the the timber WS for anybody but the Nuggets to keep it out of the Nuggets keep it out of that altitude one seem’s huge but Tony I’ll be covering the Lakers T ts game on Sunday I can report

Back to you afterward tell you how tell you what I thought oh there it oh you want extra point yeah they are on the road I mean this next month they play Denver few times three times they’re on the road right now in the middle of of a

Road street that block though you think of the greatest blocks of all time of course you think of of LeBron on Iguodala that was a minute in change left you think of Giannis on eighton in the finals that was a minute and change left that one is at the horn awesome

Around the Horn go the back of the head of the league that’s what Anthony Edward says the back of the head of the league made him so great in college is not transferable to the NFL he’s not going to be able to do that he can’t do what

He did in college 75% of the time and be successful at the NFL level and he needs to get under Center he needs to understand how to throw on time on platform from the pocket if they take him I would be uh you better be under the understanding that that that you’re

Going to sit him this year that’s Ryan Leaf on Dan Patrick and who’s he talking about Caleb Williams so a former NFL quarterback perspective a for former NFL could be number one pick perspective he went number two a quarterback who couldn’t duplicate success he had in college perspective from Leaf there Courtney

Cron and you’re on the Caleb Williams beat now with Chicago drafting one how’d you hear that dare I say measured in Ryan Leaf’s comments about Caleb Williams I respect it he’s a former NFL quarterback you can think whatever you want about his career but he brings up some valid points that

The Chicago Bears or any team that drafts Caleb Williams is going going to have to work through fortunately Shane Waldren new offensive coordinator in Chicago over three years as the OC in Seattle he ranked 15th in plays that were called from under Center 13th in play action usage so that should bode

Well for a Caleb Williams if he ends up in Chicago and frankly I’m happy that Ryan Leaf kept it to football and not just regurgitating this game of ele of NFL draft Talk telephone which we heard from Taylor lean’s podcast where he’s throwing out that Caleb Williams

Basically just went to the NFL combine for free gear and interviews like taking shots at the guy’s character right now if you’re doing that that’s a red flag more than anything else when you’re talking about what he can do on or off the so you appreciated the analysis of

Of what it would take from college to a pro level that you heard from Leaf but no pause on Caleb Williams the player and the Bear’s position at number one it sounds like flashy you covered Williams every home game at USC how’d you hear this I get so tired of all this people

Nitpicking him I wish everybody would just shut up and let the kid get drafted and watch him shine he’s the best NFL ready quarterback since Andrew Luck he’s yes of course he has to learn something of course he’s going to learn something at a pro level of course he has to get

Better of course he has to adjust but I think people are are biased against him because they think he’s entitled and arrogant and calculating he’s all those things but he’s also a great quarterback and he’s also NFL he’s basically been an NFL quarterback for two years out here

He’s been treated like that he’s been ripped in the media he’s been booed by the fans he’s he’s been cheered by you know he’s gone through it all out here he’s ready for the league he’s ready to start now pablor is just funny to me that and by

The way there is some measured analysis in this right is he doing the thing where he breaks down a play and scrambles around and does a Patrick mahom depression too much is that a valid concern sure but the very basic premise that that kind of guy is a

Concern in general feels to me like an argument from 5 years ago so is just a matter of degree or is just a matter of category because the guy who can scramble around when the play breaks down make plays off platform that’s literally the entirety of the sport that

I’ve been seeing for like half a decade now so the guy who can do that the best since Mahomes is absolutely the guy I want number one overall is he going to do that when it’s unnecessary fair point but the category of this sort of player

The style this is exactly who I want J yeah the part about the 75% not translating to the NFL I mean the comparison that we have for him is the greatest quarterback that any of us have ever ever seen and the reason a lot of his stuff is improvised is because USC

Was not known for having a great offensive line last year so to me that would only instill confidence that if you can put a conf competent line in front of him that it’s only going to make him better I I think they Fair critiques again of Caleb Williams but

Again we are talking about tol’s point one of the most complete prospects at the quarterback position that we’ve seen since Andrew Lu for me I personally am not as so into nitpicking what he is as a player because it’s what the n we’ve had this conversation I think off air

Before right covering this sport this season right now is all about nitpicking when the season previously of the football playing it’s all wow look what they can do it’s almost like a need to nitpick now when maybe that shouldn’t be the need right maybe you can’t focus on

The whole lot of good it’s good for business this next story is from Kansas City kind of stop me in my tracks I want your view of it Fox 4kc reporting that a local hospital saying fans were treating after the KC playoff game for cold weather injuries and now several may

Need amputations this is a side of a conversation we had before the game that you often don’t consider after the game it was minus 30 windchill game went on and then people say oh it was good it was a great game and a championship title run they overcame another Hill

Fans are losing body parts Harry does that make you think or rethink how the league should handle cold weather games hold on Tony let me think long and hard about this yes what are we talking about like like it’s it’s one thing for it to be a concern for the players and

Their health and the people that are watching this game but let’s even throw that away right if you want the best quality of product out there on the field we don’t have to pretend that we’re all tough guys and to do this in temperatures that are going to make you

Lose limbs so yes the NFL should want to get rid of this or to at least play the game in conditions that are not just going to make players and fans safer but it’s also going to be a better game yeah it speaks to the question of

Whether this is a TV product or also something people experience in real life when I play Madden love to put Snow on maximum super interesting even beautiful would I ever want to go there in person absolutely not so what it boils down to Tony this is kind of like an NFL

Metaphor for the NFL here’s a list of risks medical dangers do you want to sign up for this knowing that you might get hurt me no lots of other people it seems it seems right you may have fans and say I would do it again I I understand that the idea that these

People have free will is of course self-evident but Bill plashy hearing that headline several amputations coming because of going to this football game how should the NFL feel about that that’s ter absolutely terrifying just terrifying to see that it’s just it’s awful but the NFL what what what can

They do weit gets warm there’s only been six games below zero in NFL history not there’s not enough games to make it that a warrant that kind of danger fans need to be smart if if it’s that cold don’t go to the game Corney Cronin the NFL doesn’t have a temperature

Threshold where they cancel games because it got below a certain degree and I know that we like the images of people shirtless with beer cans and insane temperatures or Bud Grant walking out to the coin toss in the 2017 NFC wild guard game in a t-shirt but it m

You got to be smart about this I’m with Bill it’s on the people to make sure if you’re at this game make sure you are covered up and in Winter appropriate NFL did postpone a game weekend it wasn’t the game we’re speaking of with with

This due to snow it’s due to the the governor of New York saying you know we need to have everybody moving the snow out and safe travel but that happens as well they have postpone games before we’ll move on Golden State Ming to the blls last night here’s Byer cell three

Steph Curry was limping after the game Anthony Slater covering for the athletic described a delay and opening up the locker room presumably to clear Curry out of there and then you said Golden State players or team in general were talking that they expect Curry to miss time Pablo what you buy what you

Sell I buy that Steph Curry ankle used to be the three most dangerous words in the Bay Area Tony I’m old enough to remember when his ankles were the thing that almost changed the entirety of NBA history so yes he solved that by and large the injury issues but if the ankle

Thing is back yeah I’m terrified this is an enormous problem exential problem for that yeah Tony on B Steve KR is about to earn that contract extension because the mixing and matching he is going to do if he’s going to be out for an extended

Period of time is going to be a lot he’s averaging 33 minutes and 20 shots per game that’s his fourth highest of his career uh it’s going to be a different look Warriors which could be for a while I’m buying that they need to follow the same path they did two years

Ago when he got injured in March against the Celtics have him come back for maybe the final 10 games of the regular season and then for that playoff push they need him healthy if they’re going to make a run 0 and three without Curry CP3 is

Minus 12 when he takes his place there in trouble you’re in trouble Golden State you’re not going to pass it l I’ll tell you what trouble was Bill you were in trouble when the horn sounded before you even got into your answer had a good you work quick but not quick enough

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Around the Horn reacts to Nuggets sweep season series vs. Celtics, re-establish claim as NBA’s best