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Detroit Pistons Young Core Will Work | WP 104



Detroit Pistons Young Core Will Work | WP 104

What up though people welcome back it’s wake up where we’re celebrating a beautiful 313 day the chat has been amazing the callers have been awesome L Sam back in the Des with this is always doing we got our starting five here it’s been awesome Mr Matt Brer our Detroit

Lions Detroit Tigers credential beat reporter in our Elite Booth our illustrious Booth we got Mr kg over here Detroit Number One V and W sports’s MVP over here JB smooth in the chat has been a little upset that you uh that you ditched your amazing blue hat brother

It was an amazing blue hat on it was an amazing blue besides I I like this one a little bit better homemade I I like that oh nice homade you know and and before we get into I know we got what’s trending with JB smooth on the way we

Got mbag we got more callers we can continue to talk this Detroit Lions thing we do cover all four Sports I am the credential beat rider for the Detroit Pistons uh for the network and we got our Woodward Pistons Wednesdays we did push this back so we can continue

To accommodate uh a lot of the callers in this Lions talk because it’s hot right now it’s hot right now man it’s hot right now but we’ll talk Pistons just a little bit man and it’s nothing to defend right now it’s not much to even talk about for this year but in

Terms of where this team is headed and what you guys want to see them do so that they can find themselves in a position similar to what we see with these Detroit Lions and they made a rapid Ascension it feels like it was just yesterday when we saw Brad Holmes

And Troy Weaver out at Detroit Lions training camp and uh since then we’ve seen Brad Holmes Ascend and we’ve seen Troy Weaver getting into it with fans definitely but kg I I know you had some things as well about the Detroit Pistons man what’s good brother H I just

I don’t know I don’t know what the direction is going forward like in terms of offseason cuz obviously The Season’s almost over we have to start focusing more on what the next season is going to look like um are you what is what is the strategy do you think they have a

Strategy for the draft or free agency coming up yeah and you know what I know a lot of people not going to like this but the strategy for free agency is to be able to see what they can kind of pluck from other teams who are looking to kind of implode their current

Situations you got the Bulls who’ve just announced again that Zack LaVine is somebody they going to try and trade again in off season you got the Tobias Harris rumors that’s been out there um you got the teams like the um like the Minnesota Timberwolves as well as the

Pelicans who were talking about selling off some of their players as well but this thing is always going to boil down to what they do to put around your star player in K Cunningham that guy’s a star he’s been on an absolute tear averaging about 23 points seven rebounds five

Assists per or five seven assists and five rebounds per game we all want to see if he can kind of get to that 22 23 five five plateau and next year I’m looking forward to him really pushing this thing up a notch and what we’ve seen though out of what sticks because

That’s that’s what really matters what sticks and what doesn’t are guys like K Cunningham Jay Navy Jaylen Duram we’ve even seen assar Thompson starting to round in the form and Simone fanto definitely want to see him back and I got two I got two I got two for the

People out there James wisman he’s definitely shown some improvements uh I know they said that Taj Gibson has helped him as well as a lot of the work that he’s put in one of those guys that’s first to the gym Jaylen dur was talking about it as well he’s one of

Those guys that’s first to the gym and he sets a standard he’s definitely improved a little bit it’s nothing where I’m saying hey you don’t start the guy but uh in terms of just giving a person their do props I definitely got to do that yeah oh and obviously and we talked

About it before the show I made some of my feelings known on the Pistons on Monday’s BTE show if you want to go back and check that out you you can but I’m going to try to be a little thank you I am going to try to be a little bit more

Constructive right now and one of the things about this season and Kool-Aid I I’d like your input on it that hasn’t made sense to me is that you’re right there is a lot of young talent that we can get behind and be like you know what

I like this guy Kate Cunningham he’s not an All-Star but he’s putting up All-Star numbers if the team was winning he would have been an All-Star you look at Jaylen Duren who’s a walking for 14 and 12 on great efficiency although his defense isn’t quite what you’d like he’s turned

Into that walking double double I think he’s fifth in the NBA in rebounds you look at rookie assar Thompson who is objectively having a more impactful rookie season than scoot Henderson his brother amen guys like Taylor Hendricks and jarus Walker who a lot of us Pistons fans wanted them to draft instead of

Assar I think he’s been a net positive other than the fact that he can’t shoot a lick but with what everything else he does he’s been valuable you look at Marcus Sasser uh a pick in with a 25th overall pick who’s shooting 40% from three all of that and the Pistons are

Still an 11- win team I for one and a lot of people might not like this I’m a little worried about Ivy you look at the the month that he’s had some of the some of the numbers that he’s put up some of the uh moments where it’s like maybe

Kade and Ivy can’t play together I mean you look at I’ll give you a a quick for instance remember that stretch and I know we don’t want to look back on it because these were these were painful the Orlando game and the New York Knicks game the games that uh you could argue

That the refs stole at least one win maybe two from the Pistons when they played some really good teams close you also might look at that if Jaden Ivy didn’t play terrible maybe they win those games and those combined two games he shot six of 24 and three of 10 from

Three while averaging 11 points a game jayen Ivy’s got to be better and lately when kad’s played some of his best ball jayen Ivy’s played some of his worst and I know that he was misused at the beginning of the year and there’s all kinds of issues with Monty Williams but

To me with all of the young talent that they’ve assembled it just doesn’t make sense that they’re this bad that their record is this poor as of right now you know what I’m glad you actually said that I definitely want to shout out to chat family and pistons fans in general

They’re saying the same thing I want to turn away but I can’t stop watching these Pistons I got to talk to a lot of different season ticket holders and I have to ask them this question I got an article coming in some video as well they’re like look we’re in the trenches

And one family that’s watched the Detroit Pistons they’ve been season ticket holders since the mid ‘ 80s they’ve seen three championships they’ve seen two different eras of of winning Pistons basketball built and they do say that when they look at these young players that they actually have a lot of

Optimism about where this thing is going in their perspective that to me should matter a lot I know a lot of us who are kind of zoomed up and up close on this thing it’s just like what is going on right now but you know what two things

Well getting to talk to Jaylen durren and Isaiah Stewart at the Detroit Pistons practices and and and and the uh the press conferences after the game there was something they said that I kind of let slip my mind I’m going to actually kind of do an article on this

Both of them have talked about the fact that they like the guys that they got on this team right now Stuart actually talked about the fact that the people that are here right now actually try hard and when you think about the fact that they had eight players traded out

Or or or waved and eight players brought in at the trade deadline and that was even I think before they did the Marvin Bagley and the Isaiah livers deal now all of a sudden Jaylen Duran as well he’s saying hey look man early on we had guys that were always injured we had

Guys that now to play defense the same way that that we do today but this current Squad and we’ve had a hard time building up our chemistry but we got the opportunity to right now to build up some chemistry and to be able to play

And we like the way that we’re playing I I did a comparison analysis before the trade deadline the Pistons were 3 and 36 that’s crazy since then they are now8 and uh8 and 17 with a couple of those wins or a couple of those losses that could have absolutely been wins we

Talked about can the Detroit Pistons have a similar ESP to what they did in cage rookie year post Allstar break and you’re starting to see this team play a little bit better we talked about the defensive efficiency going from last in the NBA before the trade deadline to now

Middle of the pack and the most important number to me and that’s why I keep calling you guys sickos I was out there for the Detroit prons open practice and lines back to Woodward every door had lines going back to the street and every single game yes there’s

Going to be some games where it’s a little light in the seats but the Detroit Pistons are top 20 and during this last three years top 20 in the league in home attendance over teams like the Milwaukee Bucks the Houston Rockets the Phoenix Suns Detroit sports

Fans you know what on a 313 day I will celebrate you all because you guys continue to stay in the trenches and I get it when the teams aren’t the best those numbers in the arena are going to dip but how in the world are you guys

Keeping the thing the top 19 and I think it’s what people say they can’t look away I think it’s it’s just one part where you got these young players that you like you know what we’re almost right there and you saw the Houston rockets in one offseason went from just

About as trash as the Detroit Pistons to a team that a lot of their fan bases said you know what we like this Jump by just adding one kind of Splash free agent and Dylan Brooks Fred Dylan Brooks and they took that leap you look at the Orlando Magics they have a couple

Veterans on their squad like a Gary Harris and like a w cter Carter Jr and it helps to really stabilize and bolster what Paulo and France Vagner are doing for that team they are on the cusp of being able to make the same types of moves to bring this team forward a lot

The Cleveland Cavaliers before they went on their run they went from trash to an amazing turnaround in oneoff season we saw the Houston Rockets do it and Phoenix Suns when Monty Williams got there they also made a significant jump from about 19 wins all the way up into

The 30s yeah they do so it’s like this this team has the recipe but Troy Weaver is going to have to be in his bag the one thing I can tell you is this I started off as a trust and Troy guy when those drafts and those draft Peaks were

Coming and we saw him going and pick two and three guys in the first round it was just like yo we’ve never seen this much like this accumulation of young Talent ever all we had to look forward to in the years past was okay we got Greg

Monroe anything else okay all right hey hey we got Brandon Knight anything else nope hey we got Andre Drummond oh we got Stanley Johnson just singular picks and singular drafts and it wasn’t moving us anywhere now we do have a decent young core according to the stats that you put

Out there and I think people with the ey test can tell that they got a decent young core but they have to do the right things around this team and we all know that it goes beyond just shooting they need toughness before they put any more

Shooters on this team I want to see an identity out of this squad that exudes absolute toughness and that grit and that physicality that we’ve always associated with Detroit Pistons basketball yeah and here’s the thing if I’m G to like I said before I want to choose to be a little bit more

Constructive today you’re they’re currently on a six-game home stand they won two out of their first three go beat Toronto tonight and gol split with Miami then you have a 4-2 home stand you can see some more evidence of this Talent actually equating to wins hopefully we

Can uh see a game like what we saw with in the Brooklyn game where uh Kade and Ivy actually play together beautifully which we haven’t seen a whole lot of and then you got home games against uh teams like Memphis and Chicago go win those go

Inn those games go win a couple of road games that maybe you’re not supposed to and finish this season with at least 18 wins please it’s really really hard to sell and I think everybody in this room will agree with me and and there’s this is context free but think about this if

You would have told me before the year that Cade Cunningham has an Allstar level season and basically plays the whole year he’s Miss like 10 games and the Pistons would have the same amount of wins or less than the year before that to me would have made my head

Explode on the spot but it’s in danger of happening but the Pistons have an opportunity to actually put all of this Talent on the court and win some games cuz Toronto that’s a game you got to have Memphis got to have it especially with no johnar Bulls you’ve kind of

Owned them this year go Inn those games and win a few you’re not supposed to get to 18 win at Washington you have you have one at Washington beat them as well win at San Antonio in the season finale get to 18 please it’ll be symbolic at

Least for me and don’t set that kind of uh the the low wins uh the record for the lowest wins in franchise history is 16 find a way to get some pride and go out there and beat that amount I I’m with you there and and as it relates to

Overall re Bild man this is year four this is year four the only way that you get the collection young Talent they have is if you lose as much as they have their window from the beginning of this thing was four to five years they’re entering year five right now I wanted to

See them take that jump this off season but with Monty Williams entering there was a lot that went down that handcuffed Troy Weaver similar to how we saw Jo Joe Dumars get handcuffed at the end of his 10 years so any other comments on and

For all the people in in the in the chat who think I’m kind of flip-flopping 18 wins is not a successful season by any at all I’m just saying at some point given the talent that they do have that even I acknowledged don’t be a worse

Don’t have a worse record than last year especially with the whole season of especially with the whole season of Cade it’ll be disappointing no matter what say for they went out which is obviously not going to happen just 18 to me would be a symbolic ending to the year where

You can kind of say after that long winning streak they were just normal bad you know what I mean we would have accepted that we would have accepted a 30 52 season we would have and been happy get that pace at least for a large portion of the season that’s all I ask

Definitely and I see my man Jesse Adams in the chat as well the one thing that I’ve apply reported is that this summer what do I want them to do that’s a lot different than reporting what the team is going to do Troy Weaver reported seven days before free agency started

That there was going to be no big splashes they were not going to make a move for for any important players that’s what I reported did I want them to go out there and do something I absolutely did cuz I thought that the iron was hot to strike that that was a

Time to go on ahead and do it the same way that the Houston Rockets did and you see what it did for their young team this year it moved them forward up a step uh this is the offseason where if they don’t do something they’re saying

That they’re going to if they don’t then they’re going to fail this ReStore in my opinion uh and they’re going to fail some of their players because these windows like Terry Foster talks about they start to shift and you start to have to make decisions on this young

Talent before before they’re able to see any hope in what youve put together so definitely man it’s going to be interesting to see uh from here I know we’re going to get rod on next week Mr Rod beard he wasn’t able to make it this week uh had some meetings out the

Detroit news but next week we’ll get him on get his thoughts on this thing as well because right now it’s about what this team does moving forward so uh definitely I want to make sure we get to what’s trending with JB smooth though I

Want to make sure we do that so in the next segment we’ll get to that and if we got some time we’ll definitely make sure we get to the rest of those callers on the line I’ll throw the number out there just so you guys have it 31355 26322 and

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Rod Beard (Detroit News) and Brandon @DetroitKoolAid Dent (Woodward Sports Network) join WAKE UP WOODWARD to discuss the Detroit Pistons at the NBA Trade Deadline. Like , Subscribe and leave your comment below!

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7 Comments

  1. The Pistons have looked much better since the trade deadline. They need Monty to do better with rotations and Troy to add GOOD vets to the roster this offseason.

  2. Zach Levine is a talented player to say the least… But $50M a year for an injured guy that kinda showed us he doesn't want to be here, I'd rather shop around for other needs this summer.

  3. Until Cade is a steady lock, it will be an evaluation process. I hear you Kool aid and crew and where you're coming from, but I also hear DBL talk. This pistons team is structured the same way as the lions. Remember when DAN CAMPBELL/BRAD HOLMES started their first year the same way, they made adjustments then trended upwards. Brad Holmes is right where Troy Weaver is without that oline. NOW THAT THE OLINE IS FALLING APART, KEEP AN EYE ON BRAD HOLMES. SOL with free agency. buy cheap and unreliable F.A and forced over achievement. THAT'S A GOOD RECIPE FOR MAKING MONEY BUT IT WON'T MAKE A SUPERBOWL APPEARANCE .

  4. The concept of CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT includes many PERPETUAL GIVENS.

    It's a given that a Coach's Rotations must (continuously) improve, for example.

    Generally speaking, once a CONTENTION DEPTH Roster is in place, it takes 2 Season for the Coach to learn them.

  5. What, exactly, is a DEEP Roster when Tim Hardaway, Jr. enters the game vs the Pistons, STRATEGICALLY, as the ELEVENTH MAN…
    in the first quarter!!

    It's as though the Mavs borrowed from BASEBALL and used a couple of… MIDDLE RELIEVERS (Who's that guy?), then used Tim Hardaway, Jr. as a… CLOSER… 🤔

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