I mean it makes the most sense. If you’re the Spurs you, hope you get two lottery picks this year. Hope you get another jump from Devin/Jeremy or really hit on one of the two draft picks and then enter 2025 Feeling confident that you have at least two of your future top four core on your next championship team.
And you be there? Spend the gobs of draft picks we might have or if things went a bit better than anticipated during the season then you cash in and bring in that star to tie everything together.
With that said, I highly doubt the idea that the Spurs are entering this off-season with their minds already made up on anything. I think they’re going to be very open-minded this summer.
fiestaspurs
This has been the plan. We are tanking next year again. If we want a long term champion team we need 2 more elite players. History shows that SA is not an attractive market for all star level free agents in their prime even with Tim, Tony, Manu. LeMarcus has been the biggest FA in the last 30 years and he already had connections to Texas. In our market, to build a dynasty team we need multiple excellent draft picks. Like everyone else I wish we were winning more but the plan is another tank and I have to trust in Pop and the FO.,
spudtender
Fantastic plan, I’m beyond tired of the Trae Young conversation
WEMBYF4N
Be like Golden State, Denver, OKC or be the Hawks? Truly a tough decision for me
Embedded_Vagabond
I think they will look for a vet pg this off-seasonÂ
bleh610
Ugh, I get it. But if this is the case, I really want us to get 2 draft picks this year. Don’t think I can watch another season of us running this back unless we have 2 new fresh faces on the team next year.
PugilisticPrince
I’m ok with this as long as we draft a competent point guard with decent size.
epictetvs
I understand this is probably the best path, I just don’t know if I can deal with nearly a year and a half of doomers and gloomers. That’s worse than the loosing.
DevilGunManga
I’m keeping eyes on FA. I think the Spurs will sign a veteran PG from FA to help develop Wemby. I think at this point Wemby has earned respect from everyone around the league and his talent will be a big draw for UFA to come to San Antonio like never before.
SATX77
Trust the system.
njuts88
Hawks winning the 2025 Number 1 overall pick next season and we drafting Flagg
squeeblesquabble
I think it’s a real gamble betting we can get guys from the draft as good as ones we could trade for with our draft capital. This sub is very worried about getting too good too fast and plateauing, but if wemby keeps developing at this pace…that may arrive sooner than we think and we won’t get to tank.
I think we make Wemby the guy now, by trading for complimentary pieces and pushing for a playoff spot and beyond. I don’t think Players Unknown from the 24 and 25 drafts open the door for us
seceipseseer
Yea this isn’t news. It’s the smart thing to do.
figgnootun
This is probably the right call. The west is going to be crazy deep next year with the Grizzlies getting healthy again and even Trae Young or Darius Garland or whatever wouldn’t get this Spurs team to the play in.
If the team over performs they can always make a move at the deadline. If not they get another lottery selection in what’s looking to be a good draft class.
BroJackson_
I think anyone trying to speculate what the spurs are thinking or planning is just throwing shit at a wall. They’ve never tipped their hand.
moshercycle
If you’ve been a spurs fan for long enough you knew this was going to happen. I’d be more surprised if they traded for players.
emploaf
I’m perfectly fine with this if true. Trae Young is interesting and I would be excited if we got him, but I’m not totally convinced he’s really the guy we need right now. I’m happy to wait a bit and see what our options are in a year or two. I don’t think Wemby will stick around forever if we suck but it’s year 1, we have plenty of time to try and building things slowly and carefully
Saved2Serve
This is the correct move. Our GM has said it many times, we will be patient. So I don’t see us rushing unless there is a deal where we are offered a robbery deal favoring us.
papyfredo
Good move but how will we able to tank next year to have a good pick if the team keeps to improve? Sry for my English.
OutsetFlair
Immanuel Quickley, YOU are a Spur.
Imanyu
I think it’s obvious that this roster is not a playoff team. Why not be bad at least next year and get another top 5 player in the draft.
789Trillion
I don’t know why people put so much stock in this. I’m pretty sure thee opposite was reported last week. Things change, rumors can be fickle. Who even knows who he’s talking to. I’m fine with whatever the Spurs decide to do but I’m not gonna think twice about whatever rumors are being floated around.
lesh17
Could be PATFO disinformation. Wouldn’t be the first time.
TomTom_82
I’m good with it as long as we can still get some upgrades.
moonshadow50
I think the Spurs are very clear on what their goal is. We do not care about being good on 24/25.
We care about becoming a dynasty again, or at worst, a team that is top level contender for 5-10 years (or more).
That means that we keep all our options open, and don’t rush into a short term move that limits our future ceiling (And I will repeatedly say that I think a Trae Young move is that. He is a great offensive player, but will never really be a top 10 player on the league, and his defence is never going to get any better. And more importantly, trading for him takes us out of the running of chasing someone better down the line and gets rid of, IMO, our best draft picks going forward).
I think we call every single team to ask about available PG’s – of all levels, and if there is the right value option available, then we try and make it happen. (And these are the conversations that GM’s have all the time, and most of which probably last only 30 seconds). If Luka ever becomes available – we give up almost everything. For everyone else, we try and get them cheap/ish (for now). That might mean getting a cheap vet now. Maybe someone else becomes available now or in the next 1-2 years. Maybe we draft a PG who think is going to be our number 1 through those contending years and so focus on FA/trades for other positions.
RetroRich83
Ok-Topic-6095
I think its important to distinguish the difference between tank and rebuild. We will NOT be tanking which means trading our best players for picks or cap space. There is ZERO chance Wemby, Devin, or Jeremy get traded for picks or cap space. Maybe Keldon or Collins, but that would be for salary matching for a vet, which is NOT tanking. The idea makes sense. Barring injury, our own pick is likely at the top of the lottery. The West is still loaded after all. But that means we might have THREE lottery picks in a loaded 2025. The Toronto pick won’t convey, but if the Hawks bottom out, we could have a top 3, top 10 AND top 14 pick. We can’t play 3 lotto picks at that point, but we can trade 2 or all 3, plus a bunch of second rounders, for an all-star level player.
StrategyWaste3257
I somehow understand this plan if indeed its true.
I know this opinion is not popular on this sub, but I can honestly see the Spurs running it back next year with the only addition of 1/2 draft picks and 1/2 players moving on and thats it.
No major signing, no major trades.
texasphotog
I think from everything we have heard from Wright and PATFO, this is the obvious conclusion.
For those that want to build through the draft like OKC, think about it this way:
* OKC traded best players for assets (CP3, PG13, Adams, etc) * OKC acquired their superstar of the future : SGA * OKC tanked two seasons with their superstar at 25 or fewer wins * OKC then won about 40 games * OKC then became a contender with over 55 wins this season.
Spurs timeline
* Traded players for assets (DeMar, Poeltl, White, DJM) * Acquired Superstar of the future (Cidy Sissoko) * Tanked 1 season (this year) * Tanked 2nd season (2025?) * Things start to fall into place/better season (2025-26)? * Championship contending season (2026-27)?
OKC has made trades over these four years, but they have mostly been for assets or young players, not acquiring established stars. OKC has obviously drafted very well (Giddey, Chet, Williams, Dort, etc) despite a few stinkers (Dieng)
We need to hit a draft home run like OKC did with Williams at 12 and not have another Primo.
GeekyMathProfessor
I don’t think the Spurs even know what they will do this off season. I go by what RC said a few years back, they will be opportunistic. If Trae is available for the right price they will go for it. If say, KD or KAT or whoever is available they will consider it.
But of course they are planning for next year’s draft as they should. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that. That’s what a former Spurs front office said (forget his name) at the beginning of this season; don’t be surprised if the Spurs rebuild from the draft.
Like others have mentioned, trades rarely work.
In my opinion, if the last few games have shown us anything is that Wemby needs long athletes around him that can defend and move well without the ball. Players than can cut to the baslet. Not necessarily good shooters or passers, but ones that make an open shot or the easy pass.
There are plenty of players like that in the next couple of drafts.
pwtrash
I’m as certain of what we’re going to do as anyone else outside of the org, which means not at all. However, I’m fine with doing anything so long as we don’t give up our ATL picks. Those are too valuable.
If we hold fast, I think we will be a much better team this year than last year. First off, I think Point Sochan took about 40-50 games to get over. Second, Wemby & Devin are both significantly better now than at the beginning of the season. Finally, we gave away a number of leads in tight games that we’re going to learn how to win. The biggest issue with the team as it is comprised is turnovers, which don’t seem to be getting better.
I’d be delighted if we signed a FA or two to improve the rotation – I’d really love to see someone else take Julian’s spot in the starting 5. It be great to at least be in the conversation for a play-in spot.
I’m also cool if we take the leap to grab a big player in trade – as long as we don’t give up those ATL picks. As long as we can keep Victor (which I think is more of a concern than most people), those picks improve the chances of another dynasty run. Totally fine with trading our own 2026 or 2027 pick, though.
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What’s the plan exactly 😆
I mean it makes the most sense. If you’re the Spurs you, hope you get two lottery picks this year. Hope you get another jump from Devin/Jeremy or really hit on one of the two draft picks and then enter 2025 Feeling confident that you have at least two of your future top four core on your next championship team.
And you be there? Spend the gobs of draft picks we might have or if things went a bit better than anticipated during the season then you cash in and bring in that star to tie everything together.
With that said, I highly doubt the idea that the Spurs are entering this off-season with their minds already made up on anything. I think they’re going to be very open-minded this summer.
This has been the plan. We are tanking next year again. If we want a long term champion team we need 2 more elite players. History shows that SA is not an attractive market for all star level free agents in their prime even with Tim, Tony, Manu. LeMarcus has been the biggest FA in the last 30 years and he already had connections to Texas. In our market, to build a dynasty team we need multiple excellent draft picks. Like everyone else I wish we were winning more but the plan is another tank and I have to trust in Pop and the FO.,
Fantastic plan, I’m beyond tired of the Trae Young conversation
Be like Golden State, Denver, OKC or be the Hawks? Truly a tough decision for me
I think they will look for a vet pg this off-seasonÂ
Ugh, I get it. But if this is the case, I really want us to get 2 draft picks this year. Don’t think I can watch another season of us running this back unless we have 2 new fresh faces on the team next year.
I’m ok with this as long as we draft a competent point guard with decent size.
I understand this is probably the best path, I just don’t know if I can deal with nearly a year and a half of doomers and gloomers. That’s worse than the loosing.
I’m keeping eyes on FA. I think the Spurs will sign a veteran PG from FA to help develop Wemby. I think at this point Wemby has earned respect from everyone around the league and his talent will be a big draw for UFA to come to San Antonio like never before.
Trust the system.
Hawks winning the 2025 Number 1 overall pick next season and we drafting Flagg
I think it’s a real gamble betting we can get guys from the draft as good as ones we could trade for with our draft capital. This sub is very worried about getting too good too fast and plateauing, but if wemby keeps developing at this pace…that may arrive sooner than we think and we won’t get to tank.
I think we make Wemby the guy now, by trading for complimentary pieces and pushing for a playoff spot and beyond. I don’t think Players Unknown from the 24 and 25 drafts open the door for us
Yea this isn’t news. It’s the smart thing to do.
This is probably the right call. The west is going to be crazy deep next year with the Grizzlies getting healthy again and even Trae Young or Darius Garland or whatever wouldn’t get this Spurs team to the play in.
If the team over performs they can always make a move at the deadline. If not they get another lottery selection in what’s looking to be a good draft class.
I think anyone trying to speculate what the spurs are thinking or planning is just throwing shit at a wall. They’ve never tipped their hand.
If you’ve been a spurs fan for long enough you knew this was going to happen. I’d be more surprised if they traded for players.
I’m perfectly fine with this if true. Trae Young is interesting and I would be excited if we got him, but I’m not totally convinced he’s really the guy we need right now. I’m happy to wait a bit and see what our options are in a year or two. I don’t think Wemby will stick around forever if we suck but it’s year 1, we have plenty of time to try and building things slowly and carefully
This is the correct move. Our GM has said it many times, we will be patient. So I don’t see us rushing unless there is a deal where we are offered a robbery deal favoring us.
Good move but how will we able to tank next year to have a good pick if the team keeps to improve? Sry for my English.
Immanuel Quickley, YOU are a Spur.
I think it’s obvious that this roster is not a playoff team. Why not be bad at least next year and get another top 5 player in the draft.
I don’t know why people put so much stock in this. I’m pretty sure thee opposite was reported last week. Things change, rumors can be fickle. Who even knows who he’s talking to. I’m fine with whatever the Spurs decide to do but I’m not gonna think twice about whatever rumors are being floated around.
Could be PATFO disinformation. Wouldn’t be the first time.
I’m good with it as long as we can still get some upgrades.
I think the Spurs are very clear on what their goal is. We do not care about being good on 24/25.
We care about becoming a dynasty again, or at worst, a team that is top level contender for 5-10 years (or more).
That means that we keep all our options open, and don’t rush into a short term move that limits our future ceiling (And I will repeatedly say that I think a Trae Young move is that. He is a great offensive player, but will never really be a top 10 player on the league, and his defence is never going to get any better. And more importantly, trading for him takes us out of the running of chasing someone better down the line and gets rid of, IMO, our best draft picks going forward).
I think we call every single team to ask about available PG’s – of all levels, and if there is the right value option available, then we try and make it happen. (And these are the conversations that GM’s have all the time, and most of which probably last only 30 seconds). If Luka ever becomes available – we give up almost everything. For everyone else, we try and get them cheap/ish (for now). That might mean getting a cheap vet now. Maybe someone else becomes available now or in the next 1-2 years. Maybe we draft a PG who think is going to be our number 1 through those contending years and so focus on FA/trades for other positions.
I think its important to distinguish the difference between tank and rebuild. We will NOT be tanking which means trading our best players for picks or cap space. There is ZERO chance Wemby, Devin, or Jeremy get traded for picks or cap space. Maybe Keldon or Collins, but that would be for salary matching for a vet, which is NOT tanking. The idea makes sense. Barring injury, our own pick is likely at the top of the lottery. The West is still loaded after all. But that means we might have THREE lottery picks in a loaded 2025. The Toronto pick won’t convey, but if the Hawks bottom out, we could have a top 3, top 10 AND top 14 pick. We can’t play 3 lotto picks at that point, but we can trade 2 or all 3, plus a bunch of second rounders, for an all-star level player.
I somehow understand this plan if indeed its true.
I know this opinion is not popular on this sub, but I can honestly see the Spurs running it back next year with the only addition of 1/2 draft picks and 1/2 players moving on and thats it.
No major signing, no major trades.
I think from everything we have heard from Wright and PATFO, this is the obvious conclusion.
For those that want to build through the draft like OKC, think about it this way:
* OKC traded best players for assets (CP3, PG13, Adams, etc)
* OKC acquired their superstar of the future : SGA
* OKC tanked two seasons with their superstar at 25 or fewer wins
* OKC then won about 40 games
* OKC then became a contender with over 55 wins this season.
Spurs timeline
* Traded players for assets (DeMar, Poeltl, White, DJM)
* Acquired Superstar of the future (Cidy Sissoko)
* Tanked 1 season (this year)
* Tanked 2nd season (2025?)
* Things start to fall into place/better season (2025-26)?
* Championship contending season (2026-27)?
OKC has made trades over these four years, but they have mostly been for assets or young players, not acquiring established stars. OKC has obviously drafted very well (Giddey, Chet, Williams, Dort, etc) despite a few stinkers (Dieng)
We need to hit a draft home run like OKC did with Williams at 12 and not have another Primo.
I don’t think the Spurs even know what they will do this off season. I go by what RC said a few years back, they will be opportunistic. If Trae is available for the right price they will go for it. If say, KD or KAT or whoever is available they will consider it.
But of course they are planning for next year’s draft as they should. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that. That’s what a former Spurs front office said (forget his name) at the beginning of this season; don’t be surprised if the Spurs rebuild from the draft.
Like others have mentioned, trades rarely work.
In my opinion, if the last few games have shown us anything is that Wemby needs long athletes around him that can defend and move well without the ball. Players than can cut to the baslet. Not necessarily good shooters or passers, but ones that make an open shot or the easy pass.
There are plenty of players like that in the next couple of drafts.
I’m as certain of what we’re going to do as anyone else outside of the org, which means not at all. However, I’m fine with doing anything so long as we don’t give up our ATL picks. Those are too valuable.
If we hold fast, I think we will be a much better team this year than last year. First off, I think Point Sochan took about 40-50 games to get over. Second, Wemby & Devin are both significantly better now than at the beginning of the season. Finally, we gave away a number of leads in tight games that we’re going to learn how to win. The biggest issue with the team as it is comprised is turnovers, which don’t seem to be getting better.
I’d be delighted if we signed a FA or two to improve the rotation – I’d really love to see someone else take Julian’s spot in the starting 5. It be great to at least be in the conversation for a play-in spot.
I’m also cool if we take the leap to grab a big player in trade – as long as we don’t give up those ATL picks. As long as we can keep Victor (which I think is more of a concern than most people), those picks improve the chances of another dynasty run. Totally fine with trading our own 2026 or 2027 pick, though.