I won’t pretend to pay close enough attention to know how valid this supposed source is. But I do think we’re going to see the Spurs continuously attached to pretty much every supposedly available star and borderline star between now and the start of next season. The low-hanging fruit is too irresistible. Everybody wants to see Victor paired with another star.
With that said, Garland would be a incredible fit. He can play off ball really well, is a good self-creating jump shooter, catch and shoot jump shooter, and most importantly really good pick and roll playmaker and passer. Passer. He had a bit of a nightmare follow-up to his All-Star season and if Cleveland fans are to be believed, a lot of it comes back to him fighting injuries and bad condition, as a result of those injuries, most of the year
A package based around something like Johnson, the eighth pick, the bulls pick, Wesley, The 35th pick, the Celtics pick swap would be something I’d feel comfortable giving up if I’m the Spurs. Cleveland would likely push for an additional pic in that package and if I’m the Spurs I’d consider it. But given how rough of a year he just came off of there definitely be some level of risk in spending too much.
Bonesawisready5
What would the trade package look like? I’d prefer to keep both picks this year but that may not be possible
8th pick + CHI 2025 + Keldon + Graham? 8th pick + ATL 2025 + above (Keldon and Graham) Is CHI 2025 + ATL 25 or 26 + Keldon/Graham even possible?
Can’t tell what his trade value is but he’d be a great PG for us. He shoots 3 well and that jaw injury messed with him, I think he lost weight and muscle
Specific-Abalone-843
Is it a trusted source?
ticarus3
How we feeling about the Garland kid? Is he a playmaker style pg or a hero ball style guy?
Evening-Review-5216
I feel like there would be absolutely no point of trading for him when you could just draft Rob. Especially with how garland has looked in this past season, also considering how often he’s injured. I don’t think it’s all that bold to think that dillingham could be as good as garland. I know he’s likely going to be one of the worst defenders in the league at 164 LBs, but garland isn’t great defensively either.
pepsidime
Please God no
UnionParkBB
Cleveland doesn’t have the leverage in this deal. Trading multiple 1st rounders and multiple players could be true if the Cavs really wanted to keep him. If they want him gone then 8th pick, Johnson, and whatever 2nd rounders they want. I could see them going with the 4th pick if they have a 8 guys rated similar, which is quite possible with this draft class.
Camp_Nacho
Would be HUGE.
zapary
I think that in a draft that is considered weak (1st pick could be going 8-12 in last year’s draft) you’re either going to take a risk on Dilly (highest upside) or get an established and young top 15 PG in the league. I’d be cool trading both picks + Keldon and Collins/Graham. His age fits our timeline and it would let Vassell move from being an alright 2nd option to a really good 3rd option.
empowered676
Garland is awesome. If we draft salaun at four, give up 8 And maybe give up some pick swaps
Then might have to give up sochan or keldon
But we can’t give up vassell
Dont want to overpay
Thunderhorse74
First – this all hinges on what Mitchell wants to do. By most measures, he is the superior player but even if he is willing to resign, I think its possible but unlikely they decide to keep Garland and shop Mitchell for a much bigger haul. That said, I think sense around the league is that Mitchell wants to go to a bigger market. I don’t know if this is true or not, but its out there. So all of this is predicated on the assumption that Mitchell decides to reup with Cleveland and stay there and they decide to move Garland in favor of a player that’s a better fit (or acquire the assets needed to go out and get that guy)
Whether or not the source is legitimate: A – Spurs could use an upgrade at PG and B – Spurs have the assets to make virtually any deal out there with or without a 3rd team. So saying they might be the favorites may or may not be a leap, but it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to see that if the Spurs wanted to do it, they would go and do it.
Question is…do they want to do it? I don’t know. There are pros and cons I suppose.
In terms of a trade package – unless they value Keldon more than the majority of the people on this sub, its likely going to require a third team to bring in a talented player going to Cleveland.
Garland is a nice fit but he’s a fringe allstar on a big contract. I don’t think the Spurs should give up 3 good FRPs plus players. Maybe one good pick, one mediocre pick, and another protected pick somewhere. They will want someone useful even if its not their end goal guy, someone like Keldon (obligatory: I hate this as a Keldon stan, but in basketball terms, he is who he is, on a tradeable contract, and a known quantity that teams will accept as a useful piece, if not the star they covet – that’s what the picks are for)
Aspects that give me pause – Contract. This will mean this is our guy for the foreseeable future and be our 2/3 with Devin behind Victor. Defense. He’s not stellar on that end of the floor, but he’s not Trae Young bad either. Assist/TO ratio is not great.
At the end of the day…Hell, I don’t know. At some point we can’t keep parading 2-3 rookies in here every camp and expect to really do something, but I don’t know if acquiring Garland is the right move.
deg287
Spurs shouldn’t have to give up too much because Garland’s contract sucks. Just taking that on has value for Cleveland.
Jasperbeardly11
I don’t think he’s intelligent enough to run the offense for San Antonio no matter how much of an improvement he would be.
kingbradley1297
The question to ponder here is that we only have a pick stash until 2026. So how many all-star guards are out there now that we feel will ask out by then, and we can get a shot at them? Maybe Cade (his asking price will be very high), but I’m struggling to find a name since most guards have already been cemented as the guy to build around in their respective teams.
We can keep being cute with not wanting so and so player, but Wemby is gonna be an all-NBA level player by next season, or at a worst-case scenario, the season after. There is no sense to trotting out multiple rookies along with him.
N8teD066
We can do better
BusterStarfish
His contract is so awful tho…
nakedsamurai
None of these rumors are true.
mbt20
Garland is a much better fit than Young. I wouldn’t mind seeing this happen.
Bournerounderz
I like Garland. He’s a known commodity with a decent floor and I think he’ll be better than he was this past year. Another name I’ve been thinking of is Malcolm Brogdon. The injury issues scare me a little but he’d be a decent bridge point guard.
n7ripper
It’s pretty likely that the Hawks will trade Trae. This will make that pick even more likely to be a high one in a very solid 25 draft class. We can’t be giving up that pick unless we get something great in return.
Stopbanningmeputos
The spurs are way too cheap to make this happen. Good for them
jarmzet
Nobody knows what the Spurs will do.
Fun_Farm_8854
If we could get Garland for some combination of Keldon/graham/collins and say, the 8th pick this year (plus any number of 2nd rounders)I would totally do it.
He struggled last year due to injury, and has a hefty contract, so I don’t really know how to properly value him in trade. But the Cavs desperately need wing play so keldon would help them more than most teams, and the 8th pick could help them get a cheap contributor as they will want to compete with Mitchell on the roster.
Graham could even have value to them as an expiring contract so that they are able to resign Jarret Allen moving forward. It makes a lot of sense for both teams honestly.
hornonmyankle
I think that contract is too steep to justify right now. My feeling is we wait a year or two to make a bigger trade like this.
ganyobi_kwaw
When was the last time we were favourites for an All Star and actually got him?
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I won’t pretend to pay close enough attention to know how valid this supposed source is. But I do think we’re going to see the Spurs continuously attached to pretty much every supposedly available star and borderline star between now and the start of next season. The low-hanging fruit is too irresistible. Everybody wants to see Victor paired with another star.
With that said, Garland would be a incredible fit. He can play off ball really well, is a good self-creating jump shooter, catch and shoot jump shooter, and most importantly really good pick and roll playmaker and passer. Passer. He had a bit of a nightmare follow-up to his All-Star season and if Cleveland fans are to be believed, a lot of it comes back to him fighting injuries and bad condition, as a result of those injuries, most of the year
A package based around something like Johnson, the eighth pick, the bulls pick, Wesley, The 35th pick, the Celtics pick swap would be something I’d feel comfortable giving up if I’m the Spurs. Cleveland would likely push for an additional pic in that package and if I’m the Spurs I’d consider it. But given how rough of a year he just came off of there definitely be some level of risk in spending too much.
What would the trade package look like? I’d prefer to keep both picks this year but that may not be possible
8th pick + CHI 2025 + Keldon + Graham?
8th pick + ATL 2025 + above (Keldon and Graham)
Is CHI 2025 + ATL 25 or 26 + Keldon/Graham even possible?
Can’t tell what his trade value is but he’d be a great PG for us. He shoots 3 well and that jaw injury messed with him, I think he lost weight and muscle
Is it a trusted source?
How we feeling about the Garland kid? Is he a playmaker style pg or a hero ball style guy?
I feel like there would be absolutely no point of trading for him when you could just draft Rob. Especially with how garland has looked in this past season, also considering how often he’s injured. I don’t think it’s all that bold to think that dillingham could be as good as garland. I know he’s likely going to be one of the worst defenders in the league at 164 LBs, but garland isn’t great defensively either.
Please God no
Cleveland doesn’t have the leverage in this deal. Trading multiple 1st rounders and multiple players could be true if the Cavs really wanted to keep him. If they want him gone then 8th pick, Johnson, and whatever 2nd rounders they want. I could see them going with the 4th pick if they have a 8 guys rated similar, which is quite possible with this draft class.
Would be HUGE.
I think that in a draft that is considered weak (1st pick could be going 8-12 in last year’s draft) you’re either going to take a risk on Dilly (highest upside) or get an established and young top 15 PG in the league. I’d be cool trading both picks + Keldon and Collins/Graham. His age fits our timeline and it would let Vassell move from being an alright 2nd option to a really good 3rd option.
Garland is awesome.
If we draft salaun at four, give up 8
And maybe give up some pick swaps
Then might have to give up sochan or keldon
But we can’t give up vassell
Dont want to overpay
First – this all hinges on what Mitchell wants to do. By most measures, he is the superior player but even if he is willing to resign, I think its possible but unlikely they decide to keep Garland and shop Mitchell for a much bigger haul. That said, I think sense around the league is that Mitchell wants to go to a bigger market. I don’t know if this is true or not, but its out there. So all of this is predicated on the assumption that Mitchell decides to reup with Cleveland and stay there and they decide to move Garland in favor of a player that’s a better fit (or acquire the assets needed to go out and get that guy)
Whether or not the source is legitimate: A – Spurs could use an upgrade at PG and B – Spurs have the assets to make virtually any deal out there with or without a 3rd team. So saying they might be the favorites may or may not be a leap, but it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to see that if the Spurs wanted to do it, they would go and do it.
Question is…do they want to do it? I don’t know. There are pros and cons I suppose.
In terms of a trade package – unless they value Keldon more than the majority of the people on this sub, its likely going to require a third team to bring in a talented player going to Cleveland.
Garland is a nice fit but he’s a fringe allstar on a big contract. I don’t think the Spurs should give up 3 good FRPs plus players. Maybe one good pick, one mediocre pick, and another protected pick somewhere. They will want someone useful even if its not their end goal guy, someone like Keldon (obligatory: I hate this as a Keldon stan, but in basketball terms, he is who he is, on a tradeable contract, and a known quantity that teams will accept as a useful piece, if not the star they covet – that’s what the picks are for)
Aspects that give me pause – Contract. This will mean this is our guy for the foreseeable future and be our 2/3 with Devin behind Victor. Defense. He’s not stellar on that end of the floor, but he’s not Trae Young bad either. Assist/TO ratio is not great.
At the end of the day…Hell, I don’t know. At some point we can’t keep parading 2-3 rookies in here every camp and expect to really do something, but I don’t know if acquiring Garland is the right move.
Spurs shouldn’t have to give up too much because Garland’s contract sucks. Just taking that on has value for Cleveland.
I don’t think he’s intelligent enough to run the offense for San Antonio no matter how much of an improvement he would be.
The question to ponder here is that we only have a pick stash until 2026. So how many all-star guards are out there now that we feel will ask out by then, and we can get a shot at them? Maybe Cade (his asking price will be very high), but I’m struggling to find a name since most guards have already been cemented as the guy to build around in their respective teams.
We can keep being cute with not wanting so and so player, but Wemby is gonna be an all-NBA level player by next season, or at a worst-case scenario, the season after. There is no sense to trotting out multiple rookies along with him.
We can do better
His contract is so awful tho…
None of these rumors are true.
Garland is a much better fit than Young. I wouldn’t mind seeing this happen.
I like Garland. He’s a known commodity with a decent floor and I think he’ll be better than he was this past year. Another name I’ve been thinking of is Malcolm Brogdon. The injury issues scare me a little but he’d be a decent bridge point guard.
It’s pretty likely that the Hawks will trade Trae. This will make that pick even more likely to be a high one in a very solid 25 draft class. We can’t be giving up that pick unless we get something great in return.
The spurs are way too cheap to make this happen. Good for them
Nobody knows what the Spurs will do.
If we could get Garland for some combination of Keldon/graham/collins and say, the 8th pick this year (plus any number of 2nd rounders)I would totally do it.
He struggled last year due to injury, and has a hefty contract, so I don’t really know how to properly value him in trade. But the Cavs desperately need wing play so keldon would help them more than most teams, and the 8th pick could help them get a cheap contributor as they will want to compete with Mitchell on the roster.
Graham could even have value to them as an expiring contract so that they are able to resign Jarret Allen moving forward. It makes a lot of sense for both teams honestly.
I think that contract is too steep to justify right now. My feeling is we wait a year or two to make a bigger trade like this.
When was the last time we were favourites for an All Star and actually got him?