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Takeaways from Jokic and the Nuggets blowing a 20-point lead in game 7



Takeaways from Jokic and the Nuggets blowing a 20-point lead in game 7

[Music] and it all comes to [Music] and all down I don’t know who this is texting me what is up everybody and welcome to the losers Lounge the final losers Lounge of the season the final one man another fall 98 to 90 a classic game s yep two MERS double MERS here from both teams came down to the final fiveish minutes or so but in the second half the wolves made an inspired comeback from 20 down or the Nuggets blew a 20-point lead whichever way you want to look at it lots to talk about in this one you know last game of the year is always rough that’s why we wear the Die Hard shirt we die hard this was a very hard death for us it was incredibly hard um but there’s a lot to talk about and we’re not going to get to every big picture thing today we will talk about this game and maybe some initial big takeaways from the season but we will be getting to all of that obviously throughout the rest of the week first want to tell you guys we’re coming live to you from the Toyota Lounge driven by your Toyota Front Range Toyota stores the official vehicle of dmvr I got Harrison wi with me yeah first thing I want to say is congrats to the Timberwolves man they played a great series they deserve it man they really do they played hard they were not scared of the nuggets at all they took it to Denver in those first two games and they deserve to win you know they outplayed the nuggets in this game seven in the end uh got dine Co here yeah I just can’t believe I can’t believe that happened I really can’t like uh the Nuggets got out clutch twice by the Minnesota timber RS and um they played one of the more dis second halves uh in recent memory at the worst possible time obviously it just things felt so good in this first half and then so bad in the second but that’s sports that’s Sports baby that is sports um I we’ll get to it uh Superstar Dev I mean just a piggyback off of Harrison congrats to the Timberwolves congrats to Tim Connelly um that team wanted it um that one’s going to stink for a little bit just just because of how happened that was a shocking performance and a way to end the season that that you’ll feel it a little bit longer yeah I I’m not as shocked as you guys are unfortunately by it the Nuggets so something had felt off for a little bit we’ll get to this in big takeaways but tonight as you saw the lead slipping in that third quarter it just it was less shocking to me unfortunately let’s get to some a fast breakdown here try to go quickly here uh first play of the game goar illegal screen kind of thought all right maybe this game’s going to be called really tight I think it was kind of called I don’t know like second half was not called very tight it was called so it was kind of it was kind of a weirdly officiated game for both sides lots of guys in foul trouble I actually thought nuggets got a good whistle tonight um Murray hit a step back three right away it was actually very clunky early on um but then he went one of five he clearly came out with some pep in his step but it wasn’t hot right away Michael Porter Jr and Murray missing wide open shots but Murray did eventually catch fire in the back half of that first quarter and he ended up with 13 points in the first quarter 2419 Denver things are going well joic starts the quarter one of the stories tonight only rested for 1 minute insane defense for the nuggets for the first 3 and 1/2 minutes of that if you remember that probably the best three minutes of Defense they played all year and they take took a 30 to9 lead but did it cost them too much when they went to a short rotation given that much energy stay tuned huge defense and hustle from Christian Brown in particular goar was in there though when yoke came out and started drawing a bunch of fouls you remember this in the second quarter it was one of the things like you could you could pinpoint two or three moments that the game got away from you one of them was goar in the second quarter Drew five fouls in like 3 minutes and they were in the bonus um nuggets immediately respond though Murray in particular he had 24 points the game got down from 11 to 5 and Denver ballooned it back up uh cat started getting going and again nugget just playing great defense it was 53- 38 a 15-point lead going into halftime for your Denver Nugget at home in a game seven and then immediately pushed it to 20 points the the Wolves had to call a timeout it was a 20-point lead with time off the clock in the third quarter Y and that was the end of it for Denver cat did pick up a third foul they challenged it they lost so not only did they down 20 they lost their Challenge and a timeout Denver was in such great position at this moment but unfort no foul trouble but this is a series of runs this was a game of runs and the wolves made an enormous I don’t know what it ended up 17 to1 or something like that a crazy run and it was only ended by Christian Brown getting offensive rebounding and hitting a floater kind of a miracle shot but joic in that third quarter started to melt down nothing but threes no aggression in a spot when Denver clearly needed it 6766 nuggets let’s go to the fourth Michael Porter Jr who was wildly off in bricking shots all game finally hit a three and it tied the game you thought okay here we go then jic finally hit a three he was one of eight at that point so you thought okay here maybe something’s happening but the play of the game is the wolves are getting a little momentum Denver forces them into a late shot clock and Rudy goar hit a fade away 20 footer not a three like right one step inside of it it was huge Aaron Gordon picked up his fifth foul wolves were in the bonus again at 7 and A2 minutes and they were up six 5 minute game five point five-point game with five minutes to go and the Wolves grabbed offensive rebounds on each of the next three possessions to get Second Chance points they went up 10 and that was the game um Denver ran out of gas in this one it’s one of the big I mean it was one of the clear stories what do they have in the second half here 14-point quarter and a 23-point quarter so 37 points in the entire second half just couldn’t make shots couldn’t get stops couldn’t get rebounds out of gas Dev what’s your big takeaway from this game my big takeaway in this one is the Minnesota Timberwolves and Chris fch came into most of these games but especially this game with a game plan do not let anyone it’s going to be anybody but you know you know Jamal and joic let let them beat us yeah they had two guys nuggets had two guys finishing double digits the timberwol has six guys finishing double digits this a fox their others beat Denver you know you you dare jayen McDaniels to shoot the ball and try to play well he finishes with 23 points you dare Nas Reed to you know try to finish he finished with 11 their guys stepped up while Denver did not step up there was a lot of disappointing performances from the nuggets and you’re not going to win with those type of games and it’s a to add on to it Anthony aage went six of 24 this was not a good game from him and you could not capitalize because everyone else stepped up to the plate so ha tip to the others and that’s that’s team basketball yeah yeah I mean 100% And it’s funny to think too cuz yoke you look at the numbers 34 19 and 7 Murray 35 3 and three both guys had a hard night shooting but this was a game where everyone was going to have a hard night shooting you just needed one or two guys to make shots here or there and it just wasn’t in the cards tonight yeah I mean it’s I just I’m very very disappointed in what Michael Porter Jr brought I’m very very disappointed in what Aaron Gordon brought kcp I mean really um outside of Jamal and joic who both wore themselves out and didn’t really have anything left in the tank going down the stretch which was surprising um the the Nuggets really as a a unit as a team uh just didn’t show up tonight unfortunately um it was really frustrating to see their their approach coming into the third quarter also after having that big lead and then they just started relying on jump shots outside threes over and over and over joic included um and they just like really allowed the Wolves to get back in it by playing the wrong way which is again like really surprising that you know in the end uh of this season that the Nuggets go out playing a style of basketball that you don’t necessarily recognize and was pretty soft which is not a word that I would ascribe to this team in the past like they went out pretty soft it’s not uh doesn’t feel good but it’s the truth yeah yeah uh my big takeaway is they ran out of gas the entire second half the Nuggets looked exhausted especially Nicole yic and Jamal Murray and to your point dine they did take a ton of Threes in in that third quarter it was settle City they settled for everything Y and why do you take threes in those spots because you’re tired it’s just easier you settle for threes the mix Miss box outs in the fourth quarter they’re tired you know you’re fatigued there that that’s something that happens when that’s the case and it’s kind of crazy that joic had to play 47 minutes in this game when they were up by 15 points at halftime he played play too much I think I think he played too much in the first half he got worn out and in the third quarter man it was so obvious he had nothing y he had nothing in the third quarter Jamal Murray didn’t have anything in the second half they were out of energy they were gas their hands were on their knees early in that third quarter and you could kind of see what might happen and that’s exactly how it played out they ran out of gas it’s an it seems like an excuse but that’s what happened that’s just what happened in the second half my big takeaway is that you know every year your flaws are revealed in the playoffs like the playoffs tell the truth the playoffs really do they reveal to you where your strengths and where your weaknesses are and there are players that you count on to be strengths or you think might be strengths in in the regular season and then you get to a playoffs and you’re like oh my God that’s actually that’s a fly I didn’t realize this team had and now it’s just being picked at for the Nuggets depth was one of those things and Trust I think equally as important and I’m with you Harrison I think and this is a small quibble I’m not saying like Malone cost him the game but I do think Malone made a conscious effort of okay they had two days off we’re going to run these guys as hard as possible that wasn’t a regular 47 minutes for yoke that first half the effort it took to have the defensive output they had was unbelievable it was impressive when you say soft first half wasn’t soft that first half was as impressive as a team has been locked in getting physical rotating making extra effort plays but it came at a cost and the issue was Denver clearly did not trust anyone today outside of Christian Brown off of the bench I don’t think they really trusted him for good reason Michael Porter and I think that this was a little bit of a chickens coming home to roost all year about how the Nuggets approached it who they prepared for this moment and who they trusted now maybe there was no one to trust that it I’m not trying to take a side on this just yet but when push came to shove and you got in the Foxhole the truth was there was only six guys that Michael Malone trusted he ran him into the ground and the game was unfortunately about 10 minutes too long to pull off that strategy yeah and look it’s tough to repeat there’s a reason nobody’s repeated since the Warriors you know it’s 5 plus years ago now it’s it’s tough man and it is interesting how this year ended with them running out of gas in a game like this after we talked about how much the starters played all season it’s interesting I mean and that’s part of it like this whole playoffs we guys were talking about how shocked you were the Nuggets did not look like themselves in this playoffs they had no energy the whole play you weren’t shocked that they blew a 20po lead well I’m shocked that they B 20 I’m not shocked that they lost to the Wolves though the series and I’m not surprised that they lost honestly this game seven like coming into it was nervous because you just the nuggets did not look like the best version of themselves the way that they really had honestly through a lot of the regular season but at the end limping kind of in the end Los that game to the Spurs getting it against the Lakers and just never quite looking like themselves in that series and then through this one it just I wasn’t totally surprised cuz that wolves team was so hungry that wolves team really does remind me of the Nuggets last year where it’s like they’ll cut off their left arm to win the Nuggets almost just look like we know what it takes and we don’t have it too often at least yeah I think that the shock for me comes into the the fact of Denver just got very comfortable at that half like it didn’t seem like there was many adjustments there were just like they’re going to roll over and that’s where the the the problem lies is that is a team that was willing to you know cut off their own arm because they really wanted to to dig deep and win and like those contending teams those Championship caliber teams that truly want to stay on Parade they’re going to find a way to like put their like foot on your neck and then keep it there Denver did not do that they resorted to we’re just going to just go through two guys the entire time no one else stepped up um and they had a huge lead that was not just like a a regular 15 points at the half when you have you know the the MVP you have Jamal having his best game of the playoffs um you are the defending Champions like that just feels like more they don’t have the experience on the other side that’s a team that you did eliminate last year you had the ability to really end it and you came out laxad aore you came out comfortable um there was a lot of stin that Minnesota did not score there was a lot of those in the first half and it’s still they they were in fight distance the whole time because there was not any adjustment so I think that that’s where the shot comes in is because there was Comfort yeah on a team that struggled I mean I’m incredibly shocked that they lost this especially because Jamal and joic were playing well like that should be enough but the other players on the squad it’s like I just can’t believe how little we got from Michael Porter J outside of rebounds I can’t mean he stole a lot of those from y see a lot of those I just can’t believe that the the the team around joic and Murray uh just came up so small in this game I to me that’s incredibly shocking um like the the what you got out of the the the main two should have been enough to get you over this game against a team that’s never gotten there before but I agree with Harris in in large part like they just wore out they just wore down and they they rode yic and and Murray too hard um and when the TBL started to turn and the Nuggets just started shooting threes Jamal and joic included like that was just like a real indicator of like oh no this is I mean I still didn’t think it was going to happen but that’s looking back like that is a clear indicator as to where their energy level was I hope yol’s three-point shot has been the one thing that has never been like that reliable and when he hits it it’s so it’s so important I do hope that that is maybe one takeaway yoke into the offseason is like my three-point shot can be just 10% better it could just be a little bit better and it would make all the difference cuz tonight I mean he did hit his last two I believe or two of his last three but it was like you almost felt like it was too late like you kind of felt like all game you’re like man every one of those you’re taking would be so big uh given how tired the team was and how they were guarding it um all right let’s take a break on the other side let’s start to get into Jamal Murray showed up tonight at least in the first half for the first time in this series we got to give him some credit for that talk about his playoffs on the other side shout out Toyota we are here in the Toyota Lounge shout out Toyota for trying to stay on Parade as well we saw them pick up the hashtag and put it on their uh godamn 2024 bz 4X their all electric all-wheel drive SUV you can see it right there on the screen you can enter to win that car uh you can enter to win other stuff as well hit that QR code get signed up your Front Range Toyota stores are electrifying the nuggets in the playoffs by providing champ ionship level Fan Experience don’t miss out on the opportunity hit that QR code right there on the screen um Electrify the playoffs with your Front Range Toyota stores Toyota is a proud partner of the Denver Nuggets and the official 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here segment two Jamal Murray tonight after having a pretty terrible playoffs had a phenomenal first half he too ran out of steam was not as effective in the second half yeah they did a great job of beating him up honestly in this series just getting incredibly into a space Anthony Edwards guarded his ass off the last couple games getting into him and disrupting him including forcing some big turnovers late in the game but Murray after not being great for most of those playoffs did come out and put up 35 points took 27 shots he was a huge reason probably reason number one while they built the big lead early on in addition to their defense but it’s going to be hard to analyze Jamal Murray this year what is kind of early thoughts I’ll go to you first on this one dine what’s your early thoughts about the Jamal Murray experience this playoffs this playoffs yeah I mean it’s Peaks and valleys right you get the very high peaks of the Jamal made a shot Jamal made another shot uh Jamal had big moments but he overall I mean there’s no way that you can look at his body of work over with this playoffs and say it was anything less than disappointing um this is a guy that has really made his name by being a playoff Riser because you know he doesn’t do enough during the regular season to be considered for uh All-Star consideration or you know and it always feels like it’s a little bit of a slight but you he didn’t earn it he absolutely didn’t earn it this year he’s never really earned it in his career but you always rely on Jamal maray and the big moments and to be fair to him he really did come through tonight it’s just um you know it was really for more like a half and maybe a quarter um of of another quarter but you know like over overall like you probably give him a c for the for the playoffs even with those High moments yeah I think that this game was just like kind of putting a Band-Aid on something that needs surgery like this was not a good performance from Jamal from a playoff you know standpoint he did play well in this game but not in the other games um we even got to see him become a villain in not in a good way um in this playoffs like this was a a bad stretch from him he was getting hurt he came into the season um out of shape like I think that that’s something that he really has to go into and it even bled into this game where they finally got a good game from Jamal that they still try to ride it I mean if he was doing this the entire time I think that you have a better plan of what it looks like and I I think that I mean every decision that you make has a consequence if something goes bad but like I think that the team was like hey he’s finally having a good game let’s ride that we saw bad turnovers his turnovers in this one was like Anthony Edward poking it and then scoring on the other end like it was the whole series like if you made a low light reel of him getting his pocket picked at the top or just getting trapped like it would be like 5 minutes long there were a lot and like cor of them their defense is incredible but Murray also that’s one thing he struggled with that you don’t really count on him struggling with and Anthony Edwards made this this matchup specifically very very personal yeah he did Jamal didn’t get double teamed a lot I think he saw different looks there was times that he was double teamed but this was like a mano imano type of performance from him I also hate the fact of he seems to always be in a mismatch always he’s on a center he’s on a guy that’s way too big for him you have to fight through that so you’re not putting these compromised spots um so it I mean it sucks because after the game that he just had you want to tip your hat but if you just take uh the playoff like overall this was not a good playoff for him oh it was a terrible playoff run for him he was bad I mean coming into this game he was shooting under 40% from the field in the playoffs it’s bad did today help cuz he was under 50% today I mean was probably 47% just under 50 so maybe he got it above there I mean I wasn’t surprised that he looked as good as he did in the first half tonight he had two days off and we’ve seen that Murray with two days off in these playoffs looks really good on the other side of that now of course he was battling through a calf injury uh but even before the calf injury against the Lakers he wasn’t playing well he didn’t have the typical Jamal Murray spark in the playoffs he wasn’t rising in the playoffs he fell you know even from where he was during the regular season but you know looking back on this season from him injuries are going to be the story of this year from Jamal Murray injured during the regular season banged up hamstring ankle knee and then the calf in the playoffs I got to think all those add up took a toll as well but it was really weird how even with those injuries even with him not at 100% you didn’t see you rarely saw you know play off Jamal Murray in this postseason you saw it in bits and pieces the game winners of course the first half today the fourth quarter of game two against the Lakers but overall you were waiting for it and waiting for it and waiting for it and you just never got the full Jamal Murray game this postseason yeah definitely below what we expect of him and the I think played a lot part of that that the missing so much late in the season and then maybe not being ready to Sprint right into the playoffs probably played a large part of that but I also give the Wolves credit like a lot of people are going to talk about you know Tim connley goes over there he knows the Nuggets better than anyone on Earth he knows what makes them good he knows what makes them bad goes over there all right we’re going to get Twin Towers on yoke we’re going to get length on Murray but there is a third piece that I would say to all of this and that was strategically we’re going to get Murray switched onto a big and we’re going to post him up because that’s exhausting Dev you’re a guard when you go to play pickup and somebody just keeps posting you up even if they’re not good if they’re just like bigger than you by 30 40 PBS that’s one of the worst things in pickup cuz you’re like damn I have to do this all it’s like you’re not having fun like that’s not how you have fun playing Murray’s out there Non-Stop and they’re doing it deliberately one because it’s a good match up for them even gobear posting them up they’re like hey we like our our numbers here but two they just know that with Murray it’s going to wear him down and they all hit a wall in that second half but he hit a wall and they they spent the whole series beating him up yeah with that one a lot of people are going to say that it’s schematic okay change the scheme like why would you do that if that’s clearly what they’re going to and what they’re trying to do and also it seems to only be him yeah you know what I mean like Casey p is not in those spots a lot of times he was early in the series on Anthony Edwards specifically but you’re right it wasn’t Carl Anthony towns and yeah and also I mean that’s his that’s guy like that’s who he’s supposed to guard so it’s not like putting you in a spot where you’re going to get scored on every time or you’re not fight through that or allow that person to like have to shift I think that there was a lot of late switches that put him in those type of spots but also he has to do a better job of getting out of those situations that is exhausting and not only that you’re getting picked up 94 ft with three guys who want to guard you Anthony Edwards wanted to guard them all Nel Alexander Walker Jaden MCD they switch on to you they want to guard you so now you’re you’re you’re dead tired and then you don’t have it going on offensively that you’re it’s laboring he did run out of gas in this one but it’s a lot of it is he put it in on himself he put himself in those type of situations so I I don’t know if I’m not going to just say that’s the scheme cuz if not then make an adjustment yeah I I will say this is going to be an interesting offseason for Jamal because you’re right that it was personal with ant and it kind of flew under the radar cuz ant is like an open book and I don’t think he was necessarily talking [ __ ] in this quote but do you guys remember earlier like after game one or two where he said some somebody asked him a question that was like hey what’s it like trying to take back from the the generation like Jamal ahead of you like go go and he’s like what no KD’s a legend Jamal is like my peer I’m not trying like he was offended by the fact that he was the question presumed that Murray was above him I think that this is a series and I think there’s a lot of guys in the NBA that kind of have a bone to pick with j and I think this was a playoffs and a series where both the Lakers and the Wolves were like he’s not that good and we’re going to try to go at him and unfortunately for whether it was injury fatigue or whatever he wasn’t able to really prove them wrong I think they were kind of right to go at him and they had the Defenders to deploy that game plan I mean Jaden McDaniels nil Alexander Walker Anthony Edwards who defended his ass off in this series his defense is czy he was so impressive defensively and his main assignment was Jamal Murray Jamal scored over 20 points in two out of seven games that’s crazy against Minnesota he had games of eight points and 10 points and 16 points in this series that’s wild you never thought even what Jamal Murray playing with a bad calf would be limited like that in the playoffs playing you know upper 30s and even 40 minutes he had 16 points in 41 minutes that was in the Nuggets you know game five wins so he didn’t need to score a ton but eight points in game two 10 points in 33 minutes in game six um the Nuggets aren’t the Nuggets when Jamal Murray looks like he looked in the playoffs yeah yeah um let’s move on now to Michael Porter we got to talk about him what a rough one from him three of 12 I do have this Katy wiy uh have this a report it’s not some the podium Michael Porter said he apologized to the team after the game and felt like the loss was on him he said if he would have played the way he knows he could the would nugets would have won this series Michael Porter has two really bad series one was against Miami physical defense no space you’re not going to be able to play through that and then you know this one obviously exact same thing length and physicality is that something that I mean like two times it’s no longer a coincidence I mean yes it’s yes like you saw how rattled he got like even when he was getting wide open shots it was like he didn’t feel like he was already like in the wrong head space he couldn’t take advantage of it I mean mpj was like completely neutralized in this series in every way outside of the rebounds which as Harrison points out were often times just wrestled away from joic not really they were like offensive rebounds where the team was and a lot of those offensive rebounds that Minnesota got he was just standing there yeah I mean he got beat on defense he got you know uh shaken up on offense I mean I don’t really want I he didn’t play well like I don’t really want to harp on it too much cuz like [ __ ] it we lost the game is over there’s not much more to look at here but uh it’s disappointing man like I really just expected more from Michael Porter Jr and it is going to lead to a lot of questions in the off season like I don’t even know what happens but it just as far as like is this a guy you can count on like whether or not you’re able to move him off your team it’s like you know like is this a fox hog guy like is this do you count on him in the same way that you have been is it fair to question if he’s a foxhole guy Dev is it fair what like really this was like a humiliating uh playoff like for him he was the second best player against the Lakers yeah I’m talking about for this series sorry I’ll just go with this series the way that Minnesota played him they played him as if he was a bum like they played his strength against them and and I’ve never seen anything like that where they’re like we dare you to shoot we want you to shoot he one for six from three one for six from three two for seven from three Z 0 for two from three he may he went four or five in the first game and then they were just like hey we have a plan against them and we’re just going to go against that and that that’s wild to me that they they did that to Michael Porter Jr to where he’s now we’re having to like you know talk about him grabbing rebounds as the good he’s not out there for rebounding no he’s out there to shoot the ball he is out there to score he’s like you know a guy that is pretty much a franchise player you’re supposed to show up in these type of performances and they went after him at times they let him score they played off of them like they they went to double team because they’re like we’re going to let Michael Porter Jr shoot and we’re going to be very physical with him because we know that rattles him that that’s a wild thing to think about yeah yeah it really is he was the second best player against the Lakers after an awesome season like Michael Porter had a great regular season man he became in the regular season a really complete offensive player he improved everywhere yeah and then this series it all evaporated his last four games 4 Points 6 points 8 points s points wow his last four games of the series by the end of this he was a non-factor and Michael balone treated him as such I mean only 34 minutes in a game where the starters basically played all the minutes he was 10 minutes U only guess six seven minutes below every body else Christian Brown at 20 minutes there let me ask this one I know we’re just ripping all the scabs open right now that’s what you do when you lose series bleed out rip off the scabs here Tim Conley is the te guy that built this team I put out there it’s Tim Conley’s Revenge I know a lot of people are like what are you talking about he’s like Iguodala he left some of this is true honestly some of this is true he did go out the side door he did have a contract he did get an offer that the Nugget and then went to the Nugget saying can I have it so there was a little bit of this but at the same time I the crony’s response to that was very deliberately fed this guy for wanting out go off and do your thing and it was a division rival I felt like it was an emotional and look the Nuggets won they bring in Calvin booth and they go immediately and win it felt like okay Tim Conley what did you do you just left but building taking a year and a half does this how does this change I’m going to go to you on this one how does this change the Tim Conley piece of this whole split and is there a lot of egg right now on Josh kony’s face for the things he said about let him go we’re fine without him um for me no uh for me I still have a lot of faith and confidence in Calvin booth and I I actually still believe in his long-term plan I really do and I don’t think he’s going to stray from that at all I think he’s full steam ahead with that thinking but it’s not I’m not even trying to go either or here and pit those two against each other I’m more talking about in that moment the Kies were very offended theid but it was a division rival and he clearly knew what he needed to do to beat this team yeah um I mean I’ve got to think in that moment they hid their like frustration of losing him a little bit you know and they kind of sloughed it off a little bit when I’m sure they wanted to keep them if they had their way um but no I actually do think they were very confident in Cal booth at the time and look we know Tim connley was a great GM we knew that here it’s been interesting to see you know the total flip because after Connelly left there was a lot of anger but then after Calvin Booth you know wins a championship everybody loves the guy and now it’s flipped back the other way where people are I think going to pit a lot of blame for this season on Booth um but no it it doesn’t really change much for me there what do you think of this well I mean we know it it’s frustrating because like we know that the way that it went down was that basically the cronies didn’t have time to address the Tim Connelly situation in time he had to make a decision before they even really gave him an offer and so from that standpoint I mean it’s it’s like I don’t know I was I don’t we don’t need to relitigate who is right or wrong it’s more it happened and in one year’s time he built a team that uned what we thought was a dynasty but I’m saying like so this is like yes the crony should absolutely be like held accountable for I mean it you know we’ll see where this goes but I mean I and again like this is not this has nothing to do with Calvin Booth uh it’s not saying that he’s worse better anything it’s just that Tim Connell is the guy that built this team he’s the one that had the vision for how this was all coming together and then it got interrupted but obviously like there was still enough of the plan in place that we was able to to see it through with minimal adjustments just bringing in kcp might have been completed by Calvin boo on all in all honesty I know a lot of people want to give him credit for the moves Calvin did to complete the roster but Calvin did do that so yes you know um but I mean I think that this this reflects very poorly I I that’s what I’m getting at I I absolutely think this reflects poorly I mean it’s we’ll see what happens but I mean it’s going to be an interesting decade you know like unless I mean Tim Connelly could very easily leave I mean Tim left because they gave him quote an ownership stake that might not actually be an ownership stake anymore but that’s why he left but it was also money of money but it was also like you know the cronies didn’t seem to care enough like they they have a way of doing things and by their calculation like it was not worth giving him an ownership stake to keep well even that but we’re sure that part yeah we don’t have to relitigate who was right or wrong all it is is you let a guy go and he gets the last laugh yeah and that’s really what it comes down to and that is a pill that you’re just going to have to swallow and say that guy knew us really well clearly made a bunch of insane moves that had one team in mind and now they are halfway to a championship you know kind of at your expense so that’s the hard truth of it and it’s something that I think the cronies are going to have to sit in and by the way if there’s another Silver Lining to this billionaires don’t like to lose Stan and Josh Ki have to take a huge L tonight imagining Tim Conley’s the celebration he’s having if they go on to win a title the nuggets are about to get super expensive they’ve already been expensive I hope the sting is they remember that sting when they have to open up their pocketbook and make a call on whether or not to spend money I hope they sit there and have to be like man you know what sucked Tim Conley celebrating on our court all right we got to make some moves here we got to sign some guys well you know it was pretty cool winning a championship with Calvin last year that was cool too they can probably think back to that also but I main thing back to both you got to like those things should hopefully drive you all right let’s take a break on the other side we’ll round out some more from this game and we’ll hear from vote who’s at ball Arena Michael Malone not in the best mood you guys I’m shocked Miller Light it was Miller time for a half it was Murray time for a half in this game seven um Miller Light the best light beer out there the only light beer I drink and I’m a light beer guy these days so I love millerite had one during the wash along we 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now this year where Christian Brown has looked like a guy like he was not a liability out there really in either series the Lakers series wasn’t necessarily the series for him but I still thought he was better than he was in that Series last year and then in this one he looked like honestly one of the five most important players not even one of the six but one of the five yeah yeah this is the Series in season where Christian Brown could even dig deeper because I mean you say he’s not a liability but he kind of is offensively if he buttons up on the offense or if he gets himself get to going there he now becomes part of the real rotation yep like on a night toight basis not just in like you know break in case of emergency type of situations like we seen in this series if he’s able to score the basketball if he’s able to start shooting consistently he’s going to play a lot of minutes for this nuggets team so this is like a series that he should look at it and say hey I have to add that part to my game because I mean the things that he’s good at those come from within he’s not working on those things like he’s a he’s a hard worker he’s a hard player he’s crashing boards he’s not a I mean he’s strong enough to be able to step out on different positions um so like I I love that this is what he got to experience right now because I mean he’s that close to just being part of this this team um and being able to make a real impact I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they Calvin booth looks at Christian Brown as a kcp replacement I think it’s happening I mean we’ll get to that later on in the week but I think that is the largest thing that is likely to happen this off season that nuggets fans will Panic about defin it’s definitely going to happen yeah I mean but he looked great tonight CH Christian Brown was one of the only players outside of joic and Murray that looked like he was like prepared for this level of intensity it would did not shy away from it at all like made big plays it he’s been really impressive this entire postseason you have any thoughts on him he was great uh in this series he was really good in this game and um I think it was a really just positive season overall from him he got better in every area his three-point shot that was probably the biggest thing where you were looking for improvement that definitely leveled up this year his confidence leveled up and his defense man Christian Brown was easily easily the Nuggets best defender on Anthony Edwards in this series and he played great defense on him especially over you know games five six and seven the back half of this series um he was great I I I love his fit on this team and um his role is definitely going to grow a ton you know kcp this was a weird series it’s so rare to see kcp out of his element defensively but this was an example where the guy he had to guard was just too big for him I don’t even I don’t I don’t think he did anything wrong he even made plays but ant is obviously a special player and athletically it was the one thing that kcp just couldn’t do um but nonetheless I feel like that’s more a circumstance he was a victim of circumstance in this one yeah but now like it becomes the circumstance of like the future like if you look at all the best players out west like I mean most of them are bigger you know like there’s only like a jar R and A Steph Curry but everyone else if you’re going to be the team’s best defender like you’re going to have to get bigger you’re going to have to get stronger um and now I think that it puts him in tough spots of like do we pay him or do we go after Christian Brown and try to make him a score and you talked about you know we’re going to get to that eventually but yeah this was another Series where they put him in a lot of compromise spots as well he’s playing he’s giving his all out there every single time but there’s some things that you can’t stop or you can’t slow down and he also became sadly a liability with like being able to shoot the ball as as well so he’s getting attacked on both ends of the floor doing his best to try to give somebody you know tough so like you can’t be down on kcp but there are some tough questions that you’re going to have to ask yeah and I he’s the guy that now has the player option so he can opt out he’ll opt out he’ll opt out and then it’ll be up to the Nuggets to sign him which will cost an enormous amount of money which obviously we what do we care cronies you have it spend the money but um you know it’ll be a thing what about the Minnesota crowd tonight in Denver people don’t realize this I mean Denver is a a great city with the words out for the last 25 years people have just been migrating here bowmani Jones had it set up best Denver is the coastal city of all the non- coastal cities mean like if you’re from like Bakersfield you move to Los Angeles right every if you’re from the Midwest you move to Denver you get away from the Midwest and Minnesota’s obviously a miserable place it’s freezing cold there so I’m saying it’s Freez you’ve been I like it’s a great City there it was 70° well it’s great at that time but I’m saying it’s a freezing cold place and look there not a lot of Denver people moving to Minnesota am I wrong about that miserable place might be a little they not a lot of people moving to Minnesota but there are or Minneapolis but there are an enormous amount of people so it sucks but Minneapolis Wisconsin Chicago those PE those unfortunately it just is what it is that those people are always here in Denver and continue to move here in in Mass yeah I mean being at being in Minnesota there was not Denver fans there like nobody nobody has left Denver for Minnesota not one person in the history of migration no going Cleveland for vacation even go watch your team in the playoffs like there was very few of the like but there was a let’s go Minnesota champ and stuff in Denver you’re supposed to do better at like not allowing those type of things or like just becoming a city that you’re like all in but I mean that’s that’s clearly where they’re lacking um but yeah I mean that’s not going to say embarrassing but that like that’s not what you’re supposed to have in in your city you’re supposed to like rock out and they didn’t it’s whatever I mean that whatever this is this this is a topic for every team in Denver for every season it’s just how it it’s how it goes it’s just a bummer for a game seven to be I mean that was one of the things people kept texting me during the shows they’re like why is it all Minnesota fans there I was like I couldn’t hear we’re at the bar but yeah that’s one of the things there all right um do we have vote yet is he in he said he’s setting up um you think the wolves are winning it yeah they’re the best team they’re clearly the best team the nuggets have played over last couple years um they’re going to beat Dallas and then I I think they’ll Beat Boston too so yeah they’re really good they’re well coached they’re deep they’ve got you know a rising star in Anthony Edwards they’re te they needed this I feel defin Minnesota’s a complete team man they do remind you of the Nuggets a lot from last year like you said they’re hungry they play with a great spirit I don’t see anybody stopping them I think Boston wins Boston is set up to they shoot nothing but outside shots which the Nuggets got a lot of them and couldn’t take advantage of like the Minnesota is built to defend inside which you know is defending who Al Horford um I I don’t know I think b i to me this this opens the lane wide up for the Boston Celtics what do you think de Minnesota for me like they just seem complete from like top to bottom they have size they have a star they have dogs that truly like believe they have good coaching and make adjustments on the Fly um they could get down big and not care they could get blown out and not care and try to perform again like that that’s a championship caliber team and the moment’s not too big for them yeah so like and they have bigs they have Elite Bigs like that that changes things and they’ve got the chemistry too you know they’ve got the chemistry the camaraderie the connectivity that Denver had last season and I think coming back from 20 points down in a game seven is one of those galvanizing things that like this was a team that already believed I mean think about how much they believed in games one and two winning on the road but then Denver hits him back and wins three in a row to go into that moment and rebound the way that they did and then obviously in this game to be down 20 into rebound that’s a mark of a great team I think dline makes an interesting point about Boston and that they are designed to be sort of a very counter to uh to Minnesota absolutely but I will say Boston has struggled as much as they shoot threes in love to make them they have to it has to be a left hook right hook kind of thing and Minnesota is great at taking away one of those can they win with only threes I don’t think so I think they’re going to have to also get to the paint Minnesota has been a team that doesn’t allow the paint and Boston is terrible at getting to the paint so this is a team that like relies on their three-point shot opening things up for sure that’ll be an they’re going to have to win both ways they are but I don’t know I just to me if is if Denver got through this like it would have been a a direct Cakewalk for Denver because they were set up to beat every other team uh stylistically ahead of them but I I just I don’t know to me we’ll see what happens obviously but to me it’s like Boston has the exact counter to Minnesota and and we’re just bypassing Dallas by the way I think we can all bypass Indiana I would be shocked if they if they end up winning but but Dallas to me is I would pick Minnesota I would probably I’ll probably end up picking them in six or so five or six but Dallas does have they’re way better 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code dnvr get $20 off your first purchase terms apply create an account redeem code dmvr for $20 off all right fellas can you hear me we can hear you brother all right guys well that was not the night it looked like we were going to have at halftime not the night it seemed like we were going to have at halftime alas here we are breaking down a season ending loss and Michael Malone wasn’t thrilled when he took the podium uh I think he fed it a question about how tough it is to swallow losing this game when you were up 20 and Malone very frustrated said next question man the season is over [ __ ] being up 20 the season is over that’s what you don’t understand that’s what’s hard waited for a bit muttered to himself stupid ass questions man he softened a bit from there he went on to hold on real quick Michael Malone man that’s weakness to me it’s weakness I give you all your moment I’m not going to beat you over the head of it but somebody weren’t supposed to ask about blow a 20-point lead I you to lead in with that you can like maybe hey I what vote my my buddy text me after the game and he goes because he heard the presser he goes I don’t know it kind of seemed like blowing a 20-point lead was part of the story but we all digress that was Malone’s feeling yeah he did elaborate he would go on to elaborate he said look man this feeling sucks it sucks you start all the way back at training camp and then it just stops it’s so abrupt yeah um and then he talked about needing to use the loss to fuel themselves looks like there’s a walles Entourage hanging out here still celebrating uh he talked about needing to fuel themselves with the loss and how that’s just what they had done originally with the game 82 loss to get to where they were uh and so it’s just about being better now you know looking in the mirror and saying and coming back and trying to be better and starting all over you got to go back to work he went on to say uh you know we’ll be back we just have to look outside and inside and find ways to be better failure is not fatal this is a temporary setback we will be back he did say it was tough to let the wolves come in here three times and beat them in their home court that’s something they are not accustomed to and uh and eventually he said right now all I’m thinking is we’re done the season is done and that for me it hurts for our players it hurts we have to go back to work on the topic of a dynasty he brought this up on his own he said you know I consider the San Antonio Spurs a dynasty and they never went back to back so losing the hurt of it the pain of it it helped us get there here let’s use it it’s hard to it’s hard it’s hard to repeat it’s hard to win he did say that he was really proud of the coaching staff and the players and the ownership group that they have he said everyone played really really hard this year he said all of his players gave them everything and then he went on to mention that this year as opposed to last year they had to play their starters all year had to play them heavy minutes and he said I think mentally emotionally and physically those guys are just Gass they gave me everything they had they competed they fought hard and they came up short that’s it from Malone we also heard from Jamal Murray who was very frustrated about what he felt was a winnable game and a lot of Miss makable shots it’s tough we generated a lot of good looks he said but we couldn’t knock him down we all finished below 50% all of us we got the shots we wanted our offense was there our defense was there we just didn’t make them he was asked about Malone’s fatigue excuse and or or uh answer which I think he saw as an excuse and he said no I’m not worried about being tired I’ve been playing in Denver forever I’m used to the altitude I’m used to catching my second W wind all of that when asked about Team Canada he said well I got rest now so sounds like that’s possibly on his mind playing for Canada I asked J all if you know we we always hear about how hard it is to repeat and now that this team has tried to do it and come up short obviously it just happened but if he can reflect on why why it is in mind that it’s so hard and he thought he gave me what I thought was an interesting answer he said it’s so much harder to conjure the energy mentally and physically to play like the hunter instead of the uh to play like the hunted instead of the hunter uh the motivation is different I talked about how how hard it was to just kind of keep that edge all year and then he trailed off and he said I just think we should have won this game man you could tell he was still in disbelief about all the shots they missed and then finally from Jamal Murray on the concept of using this loss for fuel he didn’t even let the question finish he said of course for sure for sure it’s back to being the hunter it’s back to fighting for something with a different type of edge we beat them in the first round and I know that sucked for them because they’re such a good team so they came in this year with motivation and they showed it and so now it’s the Nuggets turn to do the same finally we heard from yic I asked him the same question about why it’s so hard to repeat and he said the league gets better everyone retools and everyone wants to beat you you get everyone’s best shot on uh what it’s going to take to get back and win another championship yic said I mean some teams never win another championship so I’m just grateful that we were in a position to we will see we have to get better personnel-wise team- wise coaching wise you need to be basically perfect to win a championship today I think we didn’t make shots I think we missed a lot of good shots but that’s not just on us they played great defense what’s up Ryan Blackburn and then there was a question I don’t know if this was fed by some locker room comments the question seemed to imply that some nuggets felt like they should have won this series or that maybe they were good enough to win and jic said I don’t believe in that I think the team who wins is the better team you have seven games if someone beats you I mean they’re just better he was asked about playing team team Serbia this summer and he said I don’t know my friend we will see I need to think about it and then on how hard the starters played this year and and and and how tough it was to lose in front of the fans he says look we tried our best all year hopefully the fans will appreciate it or not we will see next year and then finally and this one I thought was interesting when asked about a budding rivalry here if not one we’ve already arrived at with the nuggets and Timberwolves yic said I mean yeah I think they’re built to beat us just look at their roster he went on to detail you know all of the ways in which that’s true we’ll post the full clip as always at dmvr nuggets but I thought an interesting acknowledgement finally for one of the two sides on what was the obvious kind of subtext of this series The Wolves were built to beat a lot of teams but particularly one team and they just beat them here in ball arena for the third time this series the Denver Nuggets will not be staying on Parade we’re off we’re officially off parade man at the moment all right any other thoughts vote you know I hate to end on this note but just because I want to stay consistent you know I talked so much about how good Michael Porter Jr was this season particularly in round one against the Lakers where he was maybe the second best player he was as bad in this series as he was good in the first one and you know he’s one of the many guys that’s got to look in the mirror now and say how can I be better and if the Nuggets do in fact bring everyone back I you know Port Porter’s got to dig deep Porter’s got to be better than he was in this series and I just wanted to say that as someone’s quick to sing his Praises he came up short tonight most of the Nuggets did and at the end of the day it’s uh it’s going to be a long summer all righty get home safely uh from the arena vote all right fellas don’t who cares nothing matters anymore all right let’s open up some super chats I will tell you we will have shows all this week the offseason is back oh my God but there can’t wait to dive into the draft but yeah honestly this year we might actually get to prepare for it prep but I will say especially this week as we get into it I feel like there actually is a lot to break down of course last year it was almost like the offseason was so autopilot Bri my starter this or that we’ll get into it starting tomorrow about a lot of the hey takeaways now from the season as a whole and and what things are not going in the right direction maybe have reached their Peak and Denver needs to find a way to be better in those spots so we’ll get to that but first super chats hey Maximo did not expect this result especially at halftime to be the man you have to beat the man the nuggets made my wolves better if we go on to win the title it’s going to mean more bait because y’all pushed us Maxim that’s that’s our homie that was in the bar1 wow Lum thank you man thank you for thank you all for everything this year you all make the season so much more fun hopefully we get more next year nug life still has an O’Brien trophy in it it’s true why did we have to get the Spurs comps I know everybody’s been comping us to the Spurs for forever I guess true Spurs never won two in a row yeah Ryan Kelly all for an amazing season truly appreciate all the work you guys do everyone just looked so exhausted at the end of it next year can’t come sooner are you talking about us looking exhausted I agree we were exhausted everybody this actually was I’m not going to lie this for me personally was the most exhausting season by a mile yeah I mean cuz last year was so long and the offseason so short like I mean look I wanted the Nuggets to win another title I was talking to my wife about this today actually the championship’s only like 5 weeks away I was like at this point it’s like you ran the first 24 miles of marathon you’re not like you want to just quit like no I might as well just go through it through this point but you know alas Stephen Kut Championship medal my ass that was an all-time choke job we’re fraud City fire everyone trade everyone the doomers are right the doomers are right thanks for the it was a collapse it absolutely was Jay Clark as a tempol fan I just want to say you guys look adorable get get your J superat feel free to read these before you put them out the boys dead best defense versus best offense I guess in basketball as well thank you to the boys dad Donnie if Zach e is available D him to be backup center I was going to post this winner I I was going to say I love the shift right into draft mode I love the people that are just like well you know what let’s go we’re back baby Jesus Christ Brian ye the nuggets are psychologically soft whenever the playoffs got physical or required mental toughness they psychologically melted and folded so second they down 02 at home and then back come on come on come on ps14 thanks for a great season fellas at the end of the day we didn’t have the championship depth this year and guys were banged up getting picked off at midcourt about four times certainly didn’t help tonight you have to credit the Wolves defense ni seeing another ball handler too I think that’s one thing is like very obvious at this point you’re going to need another guy you can count on to handle the ball ggx gang HQ pathetic end to the season mpj kcp and Murray all have to be looked as trading pieces for the off seon no way you run this garbage back me I’ll be honest I’ll bet you they run it back again the kcp piece is the one to me that I just I think some going to throw him a ton of money you also don’t call this garbage I mean come on man I mean there’s a case to be made the Nuggets were the second best team in the NBA this year the Wolves were the best and and we’re in a one-point game with 6 minutes to go in a game seven Fowler phone on mute wake me up tomorrow when it’s over next year Maximo again I don’t care what the national media is going to say the Nuggets were worth champ worthy Champions and classy organization and the Joker is still the best player in the world rest three group and come back in battle next year that last part very curious we’ll have to talk about that this week will yoke retain his best player in the year title or will it become questioned Now by it be questioned of course it’ll be question who wins it but for who that’s they’ll say Luka T Tatum oh man dude can you imagine what will happen BR V I mean his worst nightmare is truly at this moment Michael tally project Dynasty great # terrible strategy I would disagree the Nuggets had no one they could trust and joic and the starters had to play way too many minutes nuggets had four guys with 4 plus minutes we said so we’re going to talk we’re going to examine this a lot this week guys cuz there are layers to this that we can now kind of dive into it might be right it might be true I actually don’t know where I fall Calvin boo said very clearly like he’s so committed to this that he doesn’t mind if they if it cost them a championship this year is that wise or not though we’ll talk we’ll debate it we’ll we’ll dive into it and give it its due it’s it’s due more than of one minute here Jason cap I want to thank the nugs for our first title in an awesome season thank you guys for the excellent analysis and passion for my favorite team see you next year appreciate appreciate we get a lot of hate bird watching without Adam $20 my favorite guy thanks for the great season of content fellas we’re dodo birds tonight and I’m bummed get all that Z contract I think we’re simply dead we’re chickens I used to call so many people dodo birds that is like a great like Middle School oh my God I won all that was roasted Doo bir Peter duck yo long shooting has been down all season and it’s never felt harder than never been felt harder than this series and this game get ready for hater takes like never be at a 51 team in the playoffs onto next year I mean here’s the thing sadly true also like not it’s [ __ ] but at the same time unfortunately this is how it works you just leave a door open and then people will pick at it until you shut them up and then it’s like I mean that’s exactly it and the thing is is that it’s never over yeah you win five championships then they’re going to be like I couldn’t get it done people are yeah people are clowning the Warriors you know like it just doesn’t matter it’s it’s the one those two with KD yeah it’s thec that one year was an easy path so yep I mean there was no there was no Kyrie that one year in the there’s truly no winning there’s no winning can’t possibly win there’s no winning Cobra 93 Stang wolves fan here no hate all love amazing series it was so much fun to watch you guys are great and have amazing an amazing community that’s adorable fans hurt but I get it keep up the great work thank you Patriot TCH Malone doesn’t play Young Players enough and when it comes to crunch time they are not ready we need another consistent scoring threat this feels like 2019 again going to debate that all week I’m telling you there’s a there’s a lot of layers there that’s not I I all I’ll say is I don’t think it’s as black and white as people want to make it sound we’ll get into it and let people decide for themselves all the different layers cuz I think it’s interesting Sammy Gomez congrats Tim Conley you beat the Nugget you’re still not winning the title this year Boston Celtics will be Champions I’m at a loss boys hate Tim Cony that was a roller coaster you hate Tim Connelly I don’t think so according to my men I said Connelly’s Revenge today every single one was not that traitor F that guy there’s no there’s no Revenge if you’re a traitor so I mean because I feel like when he left nobody was like trashing him for leaving it was obvious like who wouldn’t go uh Stefan love this team this is sobering and it hurts but the good times wouldn’t be so sweet without the tough times repeating is tough what we will be competing next year all the nuggets are good let me let me say this because it makes me remember something we the winning season that’s what you play for if this is the end of this five I always said I hope that this starting five is remembered cuz I just love the way all the pieces fit last year obviously they win a title with it this year they come pretty close I think but if there is a kcp loss or a Michael Porter trade or something happens like even if the team gets better I’ll be sad I like this group man I like it a lot and I’ve enjoyed watching them immensely over the last two seasons unbeliev my favorite team of all time I mean how could it not and and it’s hard to imagine even if it is a quote unquote better team it’ll be hard to imagine liking them more than I like I love kcp man I love it was it was the perfect five Michael Porter’s a knucklehead but he’s our knucklehead I love that dude you know High Lonesome congrats to the wolves effing gut-wrenching right now but at least we know the nugs will be in contention for years to come looking forward to the off season thanks for everything guys on to the next one shut down oh so sad CJ Jones Booth better get in his bag this off season rested on our Laurels this year can’t happen next season this series was joic vers two Allstars one Dey one all NBA two times all defense and one time six man of the year and some of this is on the booth boys like you know pton Watson had a good regular season did not make a big impact in the playoffs but he got a taste of what it is to be a good NBA player but not quite over the hump how he approaches this off season will tell us a lot about who he is I’m very curious I I I could see all outcomes for pton w I could see him making an enormous leap and I could see him coming back the same player I’m very curious to see what he becomes Eva haway so hard to align all the tangible and intangible elements last year was magic this year missing something did feel like that still love what the TEAM stands for the magic is so real you know it it’s so real I know Maximo again I know it sucks cuz in the last 20 years of suffering as a wolves fan we know what disappointment feels like y’all will be all right appreciate the content and thank you till the next time tell this this guy’s the best you would think that based on him alone that the the Wolves fan base was like the most gracious incredible fan base that really just him yeah just that one guy 290 people should be sad but I don’t Doom think team is still great but lack depth count the blessing still a championship three times MVP just out of gas be good to each other dmvr you guys are the best breae we appreciate you man we’re breathing we’re breathing we’re we’re built for this man dude we’re all but one year of my life I’ve done this I know dude like yeah you won’t you won’t see like uh film or like footage of us like melting down and screaming like the Lakers fans break the TV yeah like the Lakers fans did uh you know we’re we’re built for disappointment we’ve been losers our whole life jar from FCO good for the wolves and their fans they were the best team tough to repeat was hoping to have my little nugget during the finals but she still looked dope she she’ll still look dope in her onesie this summer love the nugs and dmvr thanks man the best by the way thanks dnvr for the greatest nuggets content all see season long that loss was brutal no sugar coating that congrats to the Wolves they played amazing and look poised to win their first Champion I’ll be rooting for them I I’ll root them I like Tim Conley and I like teams that are I like small smallish Market teams that haven’t never won I’m not rooting for anyone you can all lose Clen Fandango you guys have brought me countless hours of Joy this season thanks for all the work you’ve put in this year we’ll be back next season when all the nuggets are this I hate that we’re having to have a funeral this sucks it does suck but also just know it’s not over going to talk about nuggets daily nothing’s over but my God this stinks yeah we have like an autopsy all week this week which will be interesting and then after that we have to get weird off season’s always fun to get weird snake drafts let’s go Bryce huskin this is just a momentary delay fil is not fatal we’ll be back lay on Parade de lay on Parade I love it that’s exactly right Clem 112 first Super Chat watching from Poland all season with you guys thanks for the good work at least I’m finally going to get some sleep it’s 5:00 a.m. here thank you man thanks for tuning in big name k big namk big namk thanks for helping make every game better guys you’re appreciated more than we can say super disappointed but you’re always there to help us through it thanks big thank you and thanks to everybody superat every show we have so many real ones the real on are so much better including 55555 is the realest of the real what an ugly week for Colorado Sports I’m so sad right now but I wasn’t missing this loser losers Lounge for any reason at all thank you for the amazing regular season and playoff show this will be an interesting offseason I still love the Nuggets 5 5555 from 5555 is man what a absolute although to be honest he should have super chated 55555 so Toco ghetto what the hell dude first off great coverage these playoffs fellas love Jamal but putting all the eggs in that basket backfired this series I don’t know if this makes sense but joic needs more ball and less minutes I still don’t feel like we lost did we lose I I feel like we got another game in two days the boys down coming up baby it’s going to be big maybe our dad guy will be home more nights now food at the regular time oh that was from the bo boys they stole his fault oh my God Josh Dillard Malone doesn’t trust any of his bench need to evaluate keeping mpj after this playoff cuz I don’t know Austin Rivers was still on this team ouch you know what’s interesting about not trusting the bench the Nuggets were better with joic off the floor this year than they were last year notably yeah David from David thank you Jonah charik 40 pie can’t win every Championship I guess love and appreciate what you guys do I’m not gonna lie I really thought we could win every Champion I wanted to win every champ you could have won the last two I kind of thought that they were just going to win them all even they’ve lost now what 56 of them I thought for sure that they could wi we W one I was just like is this what it’s going to be like forever now we suck damn it face chiming in until next season fellas you’re the realest dmvr love you guys guys change will happen mpj SMH I need some ambian okays to see you guys in Las Vegas see you there I’m little nervous for him on amban to beest what a game in series but mad props the tea wolves this is a hard one to take thanks guys for the journalism takes and of course hype go nuggets thank you man thank you easy Dean gorar Lov Jamal but when he and Reggie started turning the ball over in the third felt like a bad Omen it really did it was huge the towns not sure Dallas or Boston would beat Denver tip for cap to the Wolves really did feel like we just needed to get over this one again with Dean PS it really did come down to no Bruce Brown didn’t it kind of it would have been nice to have it he definitely would have played more than eight minutes tonight sure David maybe time for mpj to go and expand SL explorers game in Denver to find somebody more reliable wouldn’t mind a flyer on dp3 oh my God first of first of all Chris Paul has a contract and that contract pays him $30 million next year so unless you want to trade yic for him well you could trade Porter for him that’s true is that what they’re saying wow oh my God PA Mur BR Watson Center would be a formidable Ben I can’t go there right now million B player would be insane and I can guarantee you that do also Chris Paul like he we’d have to make a list of players I at least would want to have to root for I’ll make that play uh number one James Harden number two Chris Paul might be the list and I will say you know we’ll have a whole week to discuss this but my initial read is I don’t think Calvin boot’s changing up his strategy that much oh I don’t think so either that’s my initial I don’t think so either he can’t his strategy was meant for multi-year Maverick 36 can we say the 5280 Jersey is the Jackson SL DJ bailout Jersey finally sure F that Jersey F that Jersey especially when they came out against wolves proper whites I know they picked their best game for or their best cuis for game seven and we picked our worst thank it was lost before thank you dnba for all you do hope the Wolves win it now H Joe CLM blame goes to everyone players GM owner Malone but we ran out of gas Reggie and holiday goes scoreless and backto back game they played a minute well lone didn’t trust Watson and we don’t have reliable backup bigs we’re too thin I’m telling you this is going to it’s we’ll get into it later but it’s going to be very interesting there are challenges in the modern NBA no team has repeated since 2018 the Warriors which by the way only were able to construct that team because of the crazy cap Spike that happened that one year if you take that one out which I actually think you should cuz I think the special circumstances that allowed those salaries only happened that one time you have to go all the way back to 20 3 before the LA we are in an era of parody that was created by the CBA I hate parody it sucks but but I just let’s I think a lot of teams you’re going to see them like losing key pieces of their roster in the coming years because of the CBA and you’re going to see really good players signing for cheap because there’s only so much money left jury Anderson thanks for everything you do dmvr love the community you’ve built thank you appreciate thanks H Devil’s Thumb down here in the nether world it’s eternally dark and the hell is hot y y but this loss was far worse heads up nuggets heads up nuggets Nation 2025 world champion let’s go dude let’s go sure it is uh Devin Quintana next year’s Peril has Zeke Naji projected to make the most outside of the starters what do you see for Zeke and the Nuggets future with him getting nothing outside of garbage time I see him getting traded this summer there was interest in him at the trade deadline they just might have to attack a pick they I honestly bet you they attach this year’s first cuz I don’t that’d be a lot to attach I don’t I wouldn’t do that it’s a 28th pick basically a second I wouldn’t do that Irwin on Booth he said in the KOC interview that they may sacrifice a backto back in the name of a spian window we judge him next year forward it’s true I think it’s true although also sucks also they didn’t sacrifice this year they could have won it this year I know but they didn’t naven immigrated in 2016 from India to Denver never cared much for Cricket nuggets the first team I’ve rooted for disappointed but through I hope this wasn’t the first year that you were hopefully you started last year at least Sports bring people together man I believe that with all of my heart yes welcome naven we uh welcome to the misery welcome to n nug life you sucker Matthew Lum BS Adam Connelly got a lot more money igod was a rat with ethics to be despised they’re they’re not the same Adam Adam wasn’t Adam wasn’t calling that he was just reporting what other people were saying never thought I’d see one Championship now feels like we won’t see another oh man it does hurt that out so bad just but hurt tonight nuggets need a heart transplant better role players so brutal well it’s tough to get great role players when you’re paying three max contracts it is Joe CLM again good point on Silver Lining Adam the cronies are less likely to be a fiscally conservative moving forward Tim connley has activated an arms race baby have the second highest payroll in the league I love the idea fiscally conservative though he means not spending money but I would bet you politically they’re going to be fiscally conservative yeah I can see that I can see that I don’t think I think they think they have the second most payroll committed next season yeah yeah all right keep it roll outside of Phoenix Steve Brown yic has played more than any MVP level player in the last four years Murray was hurt again and gave it as all when other stars have been sitting and losing with calf strains the last two teams to repeat were stacked it was always a long shot love from MC thank you Steve Jerry J mpj F minus game it’s accurate F minus is insane Jack nean can’t keep kcp Bruce can come home PJ went through a ton he’ll continue to get better two rings in the yoka Cher will be a huge success 2025 I’ll be honest one ring is a huge success but you are right we are greedy that one already happened let’s keep let’s 2025 baby I’m not done I mean best player in the world you should get more than one right I’m not done I’m not satisfied Michael ho hoens pissed right now but I never thought the nugs would get one just want to thank the crew before I drink my sorrows life thank you Micha put the bottle down no throat Patriot text seems like Minnesota stole all the best things from Denver GM coach heart oh not weather how could they get to root for goar Cedric again hope we keep kcp I’m going be okay uh we’ll we’ll have to wait to visit Denver next year Lego Mavs won my bet the under Dev dline smile my gu chunk dick walls burner there he is keep the nuggets Nation it’s been a hell of a ride two windmills were sitting on a hill one asked the other do you have a favorite song the other replies W all my life have been a heavy metal fan wow wow I did you picture a wooden woodmill classic chunk and also those aren’t made out of heavy metal those are definitely like composite the old ones though the little metal the little okay all right but I wouldn’t call those heavy metals though yeah ter Ro it’s been fun watching with you guys the nugs won their first championship 6 months after I moved out of Denver it’s been great to have people to suffer and celebrate with nuggets for life we’re suffering right now baby suffering right now Tyson p 40 bucks thank you man yeah we appreciate all the big numbers you guys yeah excuse if it’s we’re not calling it out correctly because we are miserable and it’s not your fault thank you guys for being amazing guides on this journey even though it ended painfully much love same time next year malls and her plus one thank you sounds good ma’am thank you Steve Brown move up draft Ed yeah finally have a backup center finally have a real backup center he’s going to save us that’s Z he man we were one away Lampert with the 5280 Super Chat was awesome thank you dmvr thank you weed we stay on Parade for like 320 days pry good to stay on it CJ Jones love you guys dmvr for life at least we aren’t the Lakers man every day I wake up and think so lucky to be us man they’re talking about that team we beat in the first round yeah that’s who they’re talking Lig I’m thankful we won our chip when we did the West continues to get better and scarier at some point yok which will lead another All-Star to help him battle through this crazy talented conference big year for Murray coming in Tamor I was worried when yoke wasn’t shooting the mid-range much during the regular season he needed it tonight need another ball handler and a backup big we’ll be fine we will be fine that in that much I’m sure JK walrus $50 thank you man painful way to end the season but big thanks to you guys for amazing coverage in community nuggets in six with vco that’s so true we didn’t have vatco yo actually that would be that’s we needed a bigger body that would have actually been a big big factor Con in k k greate dmvr Dynasty dream still alive with some tweaks this summer and Youth Development there we go a St observation from K observ my guy man KC is the best hell yeah JT Kendall championships are sweet are so sweet because they’re always pre preceded and followed by heartbreak glad to live nug life with this team and you DM VR2 I’m I’m telling you it is true you don’t you lose so much more than you win that you have to just you have to appreciate the wins that much you have to appreciate him 50 times more than the losses all you do is lose all you do is lose except for once Icy Hot these knees ant is a greater player these boys were gas next year more Canadian tuxedos for mpj AG Maul Joker y’all are warriors enjoy the pool time boys enjoy the pool time Walter worthy thank you man down bad fellas losing obviously sucks but losing went up 20 at home in the second half is booth has been good but truly don’t understand the Z contract it was to trade and please Malone play the young guys there’s Talent there going to talk about that a lot this year man or this week and I really do think a big reason they signed him was to trade the contract hose nuggets got fat and lost hunger they took things for granted and appreciated the playoffs like they couldn’t lose or approached the playoffs like they couldn’t lose you guys are awesome though thank you snow wolf I hate Ant-Man and the Timberwolves we will get them back next year he man Timberwolves 3 next year is going to go crazy yeah finally real I’m TI of the gracious uh approach to a villain story 42 nuggets you suck it man tough loss but I can’t wait for the summer of snake drafts Casual Friday I hope we can talk aliens with dline again hey I’ve got got some thoughts do you have some thoughts P not really Nico Perez guys I just want to thank you forever for the incredible content all year there’s truly nothing like the dmvr boys hope to meet you guys next season this hurts like hell Monte so close but so far so close on the bench on the other bench so close yet so far Walter again regardless of tonight’s outcome would love to see Casp back but at what cost also so dmvr is the best love you guys Walter you’re a real one manate every show we’re getting showered in love I can’t believe I’m not we don’t deserve it I I don’t feel like AE deserve it and none of it’s a like able to be penetrated through my disappointment somebody send something that can penetrate dine here yeah dude somebody penetrate you could probably penetrate him for 50 bucks say something to penetrate that cheap say something to penetrate me like DM me once the also another every game super chatter doing the second Super chat so you guys talk about this did that 80c game versus Spurs last 5 minutes meltdown cost us the title maybe maybe it’s entirely possible I’ve heard a lot of weird stuff about that game too which we can talk about later this more alien talk actual alien talk well here’s an alien Bill Zen ball the alien the actual alien this is actually 5 million buckas zoids where I’m from love you guys we’ll get the UFO out there again sometime thanks so much for the that before the alien good timing man I love the buckid friend they’ll be back with the combo guard Bruce I don’t think they can get Bruce I you know what he’s making 20 million next year we’ll get into that later in the week for now yeah just be like why can’t we get you know we’re going to sign Bruce we’re gonna sign Kobe Bruce will be back it doesn’t matter we’re g to get Kobe and a backup big hopefully playable thank you for the James uh Brown Watson vco jumps team wins every year see you soon see you soon Matthew Lum I’m sorry Adam why are the comparisons between aoda and Connelly need to be reported yeah Adam yeah Adam come on why you got to bring up why you got to bring up old stuff during this game man why you got to report uh from sources like your is that it kill one last one boy Dad we did beat the effing Lakers that will do for me until the fall yeah we did beat the Lakers outra music has been punched I did like this team and it is funny what what winning a title does to you because it’s both the greatest thing and also a weird perspective for you if I would have told you the Nuggets would tie franchise record 57 wins have an MVP and make it to the second round in a game seven you’d probably say you know what top five season in Denver Nuggets history honest to God top five there probably is still I’m I’m saying it it is I’m saying it but you know after you’ve climbed that mountain top you kind of know there really what does uh Pat Riley say there’s winning and there’s misery and unfortunately this season this is misery this is misery but I did love this season I loved covering it with all you guys vote at the arena kale who always is behind the camera you know never gets to be out here reaping all the rewards taking in all the super chats and all the love yet doing all of the grunt work and and figuring everything out I love doing the show with you guys and we’ve been doing it for what now 5 years yeah five years we won a title doing this show and and I just I I just really appreciate all you guys and even though we’re not going anywhere I’ll literally see tomorrow we’re doing a show at 3:15 tomorrow it does feel like the end of a chapter and then a new chapter begins tomorrow so as we close it I just say I love you guys from the bottom of my heart and I’m bummed it has to end right here it was a great season and I mean we got a lot of great super chats tonight that’s why we do it man we do it for you guys and for us a little bit but it’s for nuggets Nation it’s for all you guys out there so as always man thank you guys for tuning in all season thank you for watching all season super chatting all season it’s it was a really fun year it was a really fun year uh thank you for another great season um I felt like this was a year that everybody got closer if you spent time in the Super Chat you came down to the bar to meet you you got to see familiar faces this was not a shocking you know year of seeing people and and going through that um you guys made us feel loved uh that’s in public that’s you know here um that’s online like this is a family like a true family and I love you all yeah [ __ ] me we are literally back tomorrow everybody thanks for hanging out with us hit the like button we’ll see you there [Music] [Applause] we all sting like the May

We just witnessed a classic that did not go the Nuggets way. The Denver Nuggets came out and played their best basketball of the series in the first half but Minnesota had their best punch still to give. The Timberwolves came out of hell in the 3rd and had a 5 point lead with 5 minutes to go. The Nuggets couldn’t close in the clutch where they have played their best all season and the season ends on a heartbreaker. Adam Mares, Harrison Wind, Duvalier Johnson, and D-Line Co. come to you LIVE from the DNVR Bar to break down everything you need to know in this edition of the DNVR Nuggets Podcast!

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Dev’s big takeaway – 6:14
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Jamal Murray – 18:00
Michael Porter Jr – 27:30
Tim Connelly’s revenge? – 31:00
Christian Braun – 38:50
KCP – 41:50
Are the Wolves winning it all? – 45:10
Vogt-ing time – 50:00
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49 Comments

  1. Malone's biggest blunders:
    Taking well over 100 games to figure out to start Jokic over Nurkic.
    Losing two last games both in 17/18 to Blazers and Wolves that were literally win or go home for playoffs
    Losing to Blazers in 19 game 7 after leading by double digits.
    Having Jokic guard Inbound against Lakers in 2020 game 2 and leaving AD open.
    Starting Campazzo and getting swept by Suns with a new MVP.
    Playing Jokic into the ground in 24 game 7 and completely forgetting the bench.

  2. Comments are on point. No back up 5, no replacement for Uncle Jeff, or Bruce. Front office needs to get to work this offseason

  3. Nuggets were playing 12 games trying to have Murray score over 30, he is killer of game flow and -1 on defence, last night he had the worst 35 NBA game in history, on +20 he was trying to use it as garbage time to pad the stats, running the clock down in 4th while loosing, dude just has the lowest IQ in the game…but he has max contract

  4. What's really frustrating is we could have traded Bones for Reid a few years ago and didn't because we didn't want to trade with MN. How did that work out? Yikes.

  5. This team has had one finals run, it’s ridiculous to say fatigue and they’ve been “the hunted” for too long. This isn’t a dynasty yet no where close to

  6. Lesson that i learned long time ago. Never take the foot off the gas. They were in control, Ant looked lost and shaken up when they were up 20. And then, all of the sudden, Nuggs relaxed and started taking unnecessary 3s and other dumb shots, turnovers that lead to quick and easy buckets for Minn. Just cant do it. That gave them life and confidence. Not to mention, Denver then also resulted into playing worse D. Fouling unnecessary and other blown assignments on D. Thus, their bad O then lead to poor D.
    And then, in the end, they had no killer instinct. Nobody could stop the bleeding. That is concerning and disappointing. Cant collapse like that at home and having a 3 time MVP and Murray. IMHO, Murray and Jokic both failed to involve KCP, AG, MPJ in this game. Not to mention they couldnt step up and stop the bleeding when the lead started to melt. Pathetic.

  7. Guys looked tired. Played solid D but that doesn't matter if you can't close a possession out with a rebound. Wish Joker had attacked kat instead of going for the 3 with like 2 minutes left. He probably would have fouled out n it woulda been easy buckets for Joker. Hell of a series. Thanks for a hell of a run Joker and company

  8. Mpls a miserable place? Winters aren't the greatest in Denver if you haven't noticed pal. You deserve to lose.

  9. I told you all that Jokic blows on defense and the Nuggets had the weakest competition of any championship run. Guess what play a team with 55 wins and you lose.

  10. MPJ needs to get stronger physically and get a better handle to deal with physical teams. He is valuable and can be our third guy. But this better be a growth point for him

  11. I beg Nuggets to trade Joker to a better team. He should have played with an all-star teammate

  12. F MPJ and F Murray and his gay relationship with Malone. From all that talk about horses from Jok I think Denver organization is convinced that Jokic is in fact a horse and not a person, so let's just put him on a track each night and let him work himself out until he dies….. Run Jokic, run while you still have time.

  13. What’s crazy is the black dude description of Minnesota sounded like he described the Mavs but i don’t expect them to know shit they only watch Denver games and only watched Minnesota cuz they played Denver lol sleep on Dallas if you want.

  14. Have been too devastated to write until now…. So heartbreaking… yet, I still believe the Nuggets are a dynasty… I believe we will have another champtionship in the coming years. We will learn from this. Nuggets forever!

  15. The main fault in the Nuggets’ lack of depth was actually some poor summers during the Connelly era — specifically in 2017 when they traded the draft rights to D. Mitchell for Lyles and Lydon, drafting Nnaji and Hyland in 20 and 21, and doing a pretty bad job of identifying and signing the really good undrafted free agents (Reid, Robinson, Strus, Reaves, Caruso, Finney-Smith, Dort, McConnell, Jones Jr, Alvarado, Eubanks, O’Neil, Kleber, C. Martin, Boucher, Landale, Hauser etc.), some of whom are available every year. This past year was a bad one for the FO but their options (other than trading rather than re-signing Nnaji) were limited.

  16. This is still a championship core. Retool and try to make another run next year. The sky is not falling, calm down.

  17. Booth has to go. It's pretty clear ownership is not willing to spend. You can see what Tim Connelly was able to do with just a little bit of budget freedom in MN. But a creative GM would have found a way to get the talent despite that. Booth is not that guy.

  18. As a TWolves follower my opinion is that Jokic is the real deal. That man plays hard and makes no excuses. Murray…he’s the guy that I believe was your downfall. He appears to have a whole lotta quit in him. I’m hardly an expert,but that dude seems to like to blame others and get caught flat footed. As a fan of the other team, it was enjoyable to watch him melt down. Great series. My question is how did so many Timberwolves fans get tickets? There were stretches where they were drowning out the Nuggets fans. How’d they get so many visiting fans inside? I think that was huge and the Wolves players felt it.

  19. You said we were “worthy opponents “ and you guys figured us out 😭😭😭😭😭😭 have a good summer bozos

  20. This loss stings, I hate losing to a team with a scrub at center like Gobert. Honestly I still think Denver is the better team. they were gassed.

  21. It's my analogy.
    When you finally bag that super model.
    Are you gonna have to say energy to get her agand what happens when you win a championship you eat and drink and celebrate? Especially if it is your first, they played fat and satisfied if you say Jamal was not in shape, a lot of them probably was not in shthey all partied all season, they got interviews. And extra accolades in attendidn't and they didn't come hungry.And you're right minnesota looked like how we looked last year hungry

  22. I'm not a fan of this channel but these clowns deserved that loss with all the trolling of the TWolves they've been doing. At one point they call them Pups. Well there you have it, the pups beat you. I also understand that Jokic is the savior of the franchise but to blasphemously joke about it is too much. Lord and Savior, really? Were you guys atheists? If not, don't you think God is listening to you every time you mock Him? I'm sure your rebuttal is gonna be "don't be too serious, man". Well guess what, karma is b*tch.

  23. -JOKiC Only Person I've seen win ..3 out of 4 MvPs..🤔..but Hasn't taken his team to ..The Finals in 2 of those seasons!!

  24. Ran out of gas?..they got blown out and that's what happens when you relly on 7 guys all year and win last year

  25. No bench and no contribution from high salaries. Braun has to figure it out on offense. If he can do that we can move on from KCP.

    A Bruce Brown wouldve worked wonders for Denver in these playoffs. Every time someone had to rest we knew we were about to watch 24 seconds of hell.

  26. The segment on Tim Connelly sounds so entitled from you guys..Would Tim Connelly have won a championship with the Nuggets the way he was running things towards the end of his tenure? Maybe? I personally doubt it but only God knows. Has he won a title since? Not yet. Was it a bad look on Tim when the Nuggets beat the Wolves in 5 last year (without McDaniels and Reid tbf)?
    Has Calvin Booth made adjustments (not small like you seem to think/insinuate) that helped the Nuggets win a championship yet? Yes.
    Calvin Booth did have his failures this year but the way you're wording things makes it sound like he didn't do anything but the mistakes he made this year. While this season/playoff run being a failure is due to the Nuggets having won a championship already

  27. I absolutely love hearing the sports talk devolve into which city is better. The "miserable" city still you refer to still has a team in the playoffs

  28. I've appreciated the fair and objective analysis that you guys have provided during this series, it was enjoyable to listen to even as a Wolves fan. I will never understand though people (like Adam in this clip) that feel it's necessary to slander a city because you lost a game to them. The whole 'Minnesota is obviously a miserable place' in the middle of this was pretty unnecessary. I've lived many places, Minnesota is one of the best places to live in the country (Denver is great too for different reasons). It's gets cold here during winter, not a big deal and doesn't make it a miserable place. I appreciate the DNVR guys though, seem like good dudes.

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