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Detroit Pistons and Troy Weaver Agree to Part Ways LIVE



Detroit Pistons and Troy Weaver Agree to Part Ways LIVE

[Music] YouTube what’s going on man it’s your man king deuce we hear uh emergency pod for you guys man hey we all know the situation by now and if you haven’t heard the Detroit Pistons have officially parted ways with Troy Weaver Deuce what’s going on I mean it’s been a crazy 24 hours bro or 48 Hours actually since we first got the news um leading up until now we didn’t expect it to happen this quickly from the time that we reported it yesterday um but it kind of just work thought that way I expected it to be a couple days actually um from yesterday to where it became a national uh conversation but here we are it actually worked out better this way um because now everybody can see that we weren’t capping with our sources um we come correct with everything that we say we not going to say anything unless we know excuse me know for sure that it’s pretty much 100 100% fact so um yeah yeah it’s been a crazy crazy 48 hours bro so now as we have the news officially that you know know Troy has moved on and we moved on from him now it’s a matter of what’s the next step for our pistons and there’s a lot of different um ideas things that we’re hearing we’re talking about um potential GM candidates that we’re looking at I personally don’t have too many that I’ve been looking at personally there’s been a couple that have been thrown out there um I’ve heard people say Obviously taan Prince um we’ve heard Shane Bader we’ve heard Blackstone I personally um have a few guys who I like but I also have a couple guys that I think they may go with ar in tell may go with as well so K give me your thoughts bro anybody stick out to you as far as who you think may be fing that position or anybody who you would like to see in that position now that the news that we talked about yesterday is finally gone public yeah um obviously gonna stick stick with what I’ve been hearing right you know uh obviously Eric tellum Blackstone uh some things you hear out there who I would love to see I would love to see taan get an opportunity because taan has always been a very smart and cerebral guy yeah uh so to bring him in here obviously like I said I I want Pistons blood back in the building you know to bring the Pistons flavor back to Detroit you need to get some Pistons here yeah and we have too many great players we have too many great teams that we’ve had uh championship teams right that bring that type of you know experience and put a real stamp on this team so it’s going to be interesting to see what the Detroit Pistons decid to do in this situation but um yeah whoever they go with obviously you know we’ll we’ll do our just do and uh and get the background and everything else but if it’s someone I had a choice to pick it’ probably be taan I’m not mad of taan um for obvious reasons there’s one guy who I want and we’ve talked about him before um Tim Conley right Tim Conley the current GM president now he GM president one of the two he’s making the decisions over there um for Minnesota and he’s the same guy who made a lot of the decisions for the Denver Nuggets before they won their Championship he helped build that team from the ground up um before even jic was even there so he’s responsible for a lot of the construction of that team and he was there is no concrete reason as to why he departed from Denver before they won the championship we just know that they parted ways um so it seemed as if after that though he had kind of a chip on his shoulder because he went and built the Kryptonite Denver’s Kryptonite he built the team to beat them um in that team which we saw play last night for the final time unfortunately for them last night Minnesota they they play a lot like the Detroit teams that we grew up watching and that is why I am very interested in Tim Conley will he Le I don’t know who knows that’s just a pipe dream idea for who I want because he embodies what we are as a Detroit franchise he he embodies what we were when we were successful right and so now you mentioned it before I think you mentioned in your previous video that defense is coming back we saw in the Western Conference Finals two defensive juggernauts the two top defensive teams in the league in the Western Conference finals and that’s why you and I both say whoever wins that series is going to win a championship so we need that type of energy we like that’s what we need we need that type of blood we need that type of mindset that type of mentality to bring back and restore what it was what once was when we had success here as fans of the successful Detroit franchise so that’s what I’m looking at Tim connley more than anybody yeah I I you know like I said if you look at the situation right um don’t we get a g what’s the next step is to draft right you got big coming right in the door whether we go and get someone who’s inexperienced or someone who’s ex experience um we got to make the Right Moves man yep we gotta make the Right Moves whoever comes in here at GM listen we have some assets you got to make the Right Moves move this franchise forward now bringing in somebody like I said if you bring in someone with pistons blood obviously that may Garner other Pistons you know to come and and be in this organization which I would love man um but yeah you coming right into power just like langon obviously you walking into power in a in a a pretty decent situation you don’t have to do any restoring so um it’s just moving forward it’s moving forward listen I want to say one thing though uh talk about it I don’t want to give I don’t want to give Langan credit for making this move I want to say it was a mutual respect and they both parted ways that’s why the you know the title says parted part ways um this is not them firing tro Weaver they offered him to stay this is a mutual thing for them to part ways so if you had any question and you know any question still there about if Troy Weaver had you know soul and true power to do his job the answer is just flat out no since is done we can just say that it’s flat out no yep so um and that’s probably why you see Troy Weaver say no I’m not taking anything lesser let’s just let’s just part ways yeah and that’s I gotta respect that I gotta respect that yeah yeah I mean you know it sounds like they at least on his way out tried to handle it as professional as possible even though they you know weren couldn’t come to an agreement it’s good to hear cuz a lot of times you hear these things end badly and there’s a lot of bad blood when there’s dismissal or whatever you want to call it whenever they part ways like this so at least for everybody’s sake you know this shows that they at least tried to handle it you know in a in a way that was forthcoming honest you know and upfront so I do think that’s a good start you know we don’t have much to go off of as far as this new regime but I think that’s a good first step as far as hearing that it was at least Mutual decision they both came to yeah yeah um man you know this this is this is going to be interesting summer it’s so much to do it’s so much to get done um but I want to say something this is the first year when you look at this draft situation right we’ve already said on our channel uh you know you’ll be almost a fool to keep that fifth pick as the Pistons yeah you almost because like I said what is really are you what is a a player at five GNA do for this team right now right right um when you look at the the way the roster is built currently you look at what we need to add to this roster I just haven’t had a player I can put my finger on in this draft and say if we just for some reason kept this p i want you know this is just not the draft it’s just not it’s it’s a we draft it’s a we draft um like we mentioned before we we still have guys on this roster um young guys from the past two previous years who we got with the number five pick and they’re still finding their way and those were deeper drafts so it doesn’t make much sense to me with this draft they’re there isn’t a consensus board there isn’t a consensus board and that you know a lot of times either means there’s a ton of talent at the top or there’s a a lack of talent at the top and from what we’ve seen all indications point to it being more so a lack of talent relatively to previous years so if we if we had you obviously you can’t you know it’s not cookie cutter every single year but based off of the data and based off of the guys we’ve drafted with the same exact pick two years prior in deeper drafts it doesn’t make sense to me with where we are and where we’re trying to go as far as being able to move forward with the youth move Movement we already have and start bringing in veterans it just doesn’t fit and match to me so I think that pick is better spit um packaging it with something else or someone else assetwise to be able to go get a veteran yeah and said you know I see some of the names in the comments man one of them is clinging I have been watching some clinging footage you know of course we got Duren already but like I’m saying we got the fifth pick you know and I I just don’t see us keeping that pick and you know you you got the assets use them for for you know the best situation possible that’s all I’m asking so it’s gonna be interesting to see that and um I just I just don’t want to mess this up I don’t want to go back into the darkness for you yeah very very important time yeah it’s very important bro um yeah I will say this I am relieved because couple weeks ago we talked about how we were really behind the aball from a Time standpoint because we had the we had just had the lottery we didn’t have a president um we didn’t know what the direction of the team was we didn’t know who we even might be looking at drafting and doing with that P because we didn’t know what the president wanted to do we it was so many questions and we had a limited amount of time to make a very very important decision for this team years and years down line that being the president who’s going to write this ship right so that was what had me nervous is that who okay we got to make this decision and we got to do it quick that’s not a good combination so the fact that we now have somebody that you know seems to have a level of respect around the league even though he’s young and in experienced to to a point um just on his face I’m happy that that step is now checked off that box is now checked off because now we don’t have to worry about things as far as we’re behind the aball the time crme and things like that we can just move forward now with this front office when he has a GM when every fighting a GM and then we’ll know more about what we’re doing as far as going forward because it doesn’t feel good from a stand a fan standpoint even though we you know we kind of somewhat plugged in it still doesn’t feel good in the dark as much as we are as a fan base you know when things are kind of going right and there’s no there’s no an for anything so this is kind of good to see that we’re kind of getting some movement the balls rolling yeah and you know like man listen you know I I see a couple of comments also about trading back and everything else listen who wants to trade up in this draft honestly you know who are you trading up to get in this draft right that’s the question you know what I’m saying I don’t think it’s a sexy guy at five you’re trying to trade up to get um yeah I don’t yeah yeah yeah most of these guys that I see from a basketball standpoint are just guys that you would bring in that’s going to contribute to a team you know what I’m saying they’re not they’re not game Chang what these are you know what I’m saying so that’s gon that in itself right there to me is like who who’s gonna move up and take that fifth pick you know what I’m saying I think you package it and you go out and get somebody um who that may be I don’t know right right free agency is is not it’s not the year for free agency either so your best bet is to try to make a trade yeah yeah exactly exactly Elton this is interesting too yeah I was a little disappointed too um that it happened on a Friday without op pressor CU it it kind of just buys them more time while also giving us something you know this just gives them more time in the meantime and between time to kind of get their ducks in the room but that’s why I expect the press conference to come sometime next week yeah because they did it on a Friday when they have two you know two days in between to kind of get things together while also giving us a throwing us a bone letting us know something right um so next week I I expect to see oppressor and um that’s once again that’s that’s kind of what leads me to the next thing we were talking about um when is this press conference and I I’m I’m with y’all man I’m like what’s we talked about it the most important one of the most important things I want to see differently from this regime is more communication whoever was responsible for the lack of communication before I don’t care I just want to see more now I I want I want to I want them to be more engaged with the fan basee you know just so we at least have a reason to have confidence in what’s going on we have a reason to buy tickets we have a reason to want to come to the games because we at least understand what the team is trying to do right so that pressure is going to tell me a lot bro I mean the delay in the news you know apparently you know was there to make sure that tran gets up to speed right and so that’s why I’m looking for that announcement next week so we’ll see yeah we’ll definitely see man um so now the hair coaching situation okay is it looking like to you that Monte Williams is definitely St I won’t say definitely I definitely won’t say definitely um just just because I think I think he is safer now I think if anything he’s he has more time he may have bought himself more time maybe he didn’t buy himself more time but he may have been bought more time by the Troy firing and him not a being attached to that right I think that at least signifies that he’s here for now whether that means up until training camp whether that means until they get the new GM who may want a different coach whether that means Tom Gore is having a change of heart and not being willing to eat that 78 or 70 whatever 60 million left we don’t know right I do think that if I had to make a if I had to make a gut check this uh choice I would probably say he’s here come game one of the regular season yeah I feel like you know with a new GM coming in I don’t know if the first decision they will want to make obviously with you know letting Troy go will be to eat that contract when you haven’t spent any time with him yet right you know what I mean that’s that’s a lot of money to let go and I’m sure that’s conversations that tran is having with Tom gor you know are you okay with this how do you really feel about this this is a lot of money to just eat would you be okay if I were to make that decision if I’m confident he’s not the guy these are conversations that I’m sure are being had right now between Tran whoever his GM is going to be in Tom Gores right those things got to get hashed out but for now I would say if I had to make a decision I would probably say that Monte is here just because of how big that contract is and just because that was year one I think those are the two things that are really keeping him here it’s not like it’s two three years four years in he’s had time to build and you know culture he’s had time to get his guys in and we’re still not producing at all I think one season in $60 million those two things I think are why he may be able to stick around um maybe past at least to the end of the season yeah your thoughts I totally agree with that um you know and the way that I was looking at it earlier I I was thinking to myself we bring a GM in here what if that GM doesn’t want Monte Williams wants to come in here and bring his own coach you know what I’m saying a lot of good candidates out there for coaching that would be for this team what if they walk in the door and say hey man I don’t think I wanna you know move forward with uh Monty Williams that’s my question the FR say listen if you want this job you gotta take Monty Williams or right are they willing to say it’s only been one year but listen we trying to wipe this slate clean let’s move you know what I’m saying that’s what I’m waiting to see what the Pistons you know decide to do as far as the you know the front office um because some GMS they prefer what they prefer walking in the door so right it’s going to be something to watch um we you know we got to kind of mention last night you know last night man got eliminated in The Bears good Lord so does anybody remember what I said yesterday about one Derek Lively yeah I said yesterday if he plays they win if he doesn’t they you could see the offense return to rest you could you can see there was um order again in their offense it was it was restored to order it was it was fluid right they looked like everybody was in their roles ball was moving the ball was hopping you have player movement Luke was doing this thing in the pick and roll Kyrie was getting you know his opportunities it just looked it just looked fluid and like I said yesterday Dallas don’t want to play around with Minnesota Luca came into that game yesterday not playing around with Minnesota bro 20 points in the first quarter I knew the game was over at that point when he was coming down just pulling just pulling from the logo back to back to back walking away as the ball goes in not even reacting like like yeah he’s he they’re burying him tonight he’s not he’s not going to play around he’s not trying to go back home for game six he he’s that guy I think Luca when this when this when this playoff run is over I think he will be recognized as the best player in the world I think for a couple reasons I I didn’t know I know but I say that because first of all you got to finish the deal you understand that that’s why joic wasn’t declared the best player in the world until last year when he won right all those MVPs didn’t matter you gota you got to finish the deal and so I think this year even though Luka didn’t win the MVP I think people are seeing his his greatness in big moments this is the first time going to the finals and this is the first time with a real team to get there but the other thing aside from winning the chip is his defense and not I was telling you about this before this isn’t this the second half of the season has been a totally different team totally different Dallas Mavericks team PJ Washington D Jones bringing those guys in that Gafford that made the difference you got long wiry strong guys that’s perfect for Luca KN on both ends of the floor and now Luca is getting involved now you see him diving on the floor for lose balls you see him turning slow him all over you know what I mean like you you see the effort now he’s never going to be a a top-notch Defender but I think he can be that best and above average Defender because he he’s smart he’s smart you know same reason I think Kyrie can be a good Defender Kyrie isn’t the most athletic guy but he’s smart he’s a ball handler so he knows what ball handlers are trying to do with the ball you know what I mean he understands so that’s why I think when this is over Luca is gonna be recognized as the best player in the world you know and looking at a player like Kyrie I’m I’m pushing for Kyrie to win yeah Green you know LeBron because he’s always gonna have that stink on him saying that he can’t win without LeBron James right love to see Kyrie gine I would love to see him rub it in Boston’s face those are absolutely Des disgusting over there I would love to see that you already see Stephen A Smith with his yellow belly behind apologizing yeah bro he literally said that Kyrie should retire yeah yeah come on bro yeah bro I I said you know I said whether you you know believe or agree with anything Kyrie says off the court fine whatever don’t disrespect a man on the basketball right and that’s why Stephen A Smith is going to continue to be the clown that he is um you know but I would love to see Kyrie go out and and get it get it done uh you know him and Luca now they gotta stop with this greatest back court of all time thing so here’s the thing talent wise I actually agree talent wise talent wise like you can take you can take I don’t I don’t think you think about the best courts ever how many of how many best B courts ever hold hold on how many could either guy be the number one other than these other than these two other than these two think about it think about it that’s fine that’s fine let’s do it do turn your head around like you know over the top styleone let’s let’s get ready for real think about the best back cours ever you got Stephen Clay you got Isaiah and J B right and Scotty Pippen you will on Mo down Scotty’s not he’s he’s a he’s a front Court player he’s a forward he don’t count don’t count well what I’m what I’m saying is when Michael Jordan was trolling the basketball Scotty was the guy next to him no he no yeah yeah yeah like one two punch I’m with you but backourt is a little bit different that’s a little bit different because luuka plays the one Kyrie two jod plays the two Isaiah the one clay plays the two Steph the one so just they’re just saying and Isaiah no I have from from a talent standpoint there’s no way you can’t bro think about it look look who’s more tent percentage who’s more talented who who’s more talented J D or Kyrie Irving bro what do you mean who’s the more talented basketball player both of the basketball great who’s the more who’s the chat chat help me out you are you telling me that K think about it nobody is saying hold on hold on hold on Kyrie ain’t averaging 30 in these finals no he don’t have to he don’t have to he’s he now talent wise is dribbling a b and all that that’s cute I don’t just mean play the game I’m still going with Isaiah and Jo D no you said Jo D instead of Kyrie that’s what I’m talking about he does amazing moves it’s beautiful but like I said aaging 30 in these these playoffs I don’t want him to average 30 that’s the point what I’m saying yeah the moves look cute on film and on camera okay at the same time it’s still two points it’s still points Kyrie Irving is better than Joe Dumar bro stop it stop it man think about it think about it think about it no no he wouldn’t no he wouldn’t nobody locking Kyrie up I’m sorry you know better than that nobody ever is locking Kyrie irvingham I don’t care Michael Cooper who Tony Al I don’t care nobody is locking that dude up now there’s a reason there’s a reason both neither one of these guys are in the top 75 there’s a reason that people are only talking about one of these guys being should be in the top 75 and how it’s a travesty that he’s not in the top 75 that’s Kyrie Irving anybody talking about in top 75 and that’s fine he’s just not a he’s not bro he’s not that I’m sorry he’s not he’s not it’s not the same Handler than a lot than a lot of guards that we’ve seen in history bro I’ve never seen kyi take over an entire Playoff Series and win a playoff series I’ve never seen that only I’m saying take this take the highlights and the cute moves out your head no you’re talking to me you’re Kyrie is not just that impressive to where you can put him above all of these guys that I’ve seen before him he’s just not I’m not saying all these guys before I’m saying Joe Dumars he so Joe so okay I don’t there’s no way in my opinion I’m taking if I’m starting a team I’m not I’m not taking and I this is come on this is me I love my you can’t compare because Kyrie number one is a really a point guard and number two they’re two different type of players no Kyrie’s a shooting guard he’s a point guard bro who plays point guard for Dallas well he plays point guard he’s a shooting he’s a he plays shooting guard but he plays he’s a point guard he’s a combo always been a point guard before he came to Dallas maybe in tile but think about it what he no no no no think about it Cleveland Cleveland who is the real point guard come on man what what do you mean k was the real point guard man Kyrie at the end of the game was handling that basketball at the end of the game he was point guard of the team that’s just like I was saying with Pippen just because Pippen is small forward he played the two a lot he checked guards a lot he checked two guards he played the two he was a second man no he wasn’t it was BJ Armstrong at the one Michael Jordan oh no no no no I remember vividly watching those Scot no it was BJ Armstrong that was their point guard in the first run in the second run it was Ron har that were the point guards those were the point guards it wasn’t it wasn’t Jordan at the point and Scotty at the two no Jordan had the ball at time but Jordan wasn’t even the point guard no he wasn’t the point guard he’s shooting guard but Jordan Scot was point guard either play point guard most majority of the game Jordan had the basketball basically running the offense and Scotty was number two he was the number two like option yeah but he wasn’t the shooting guard bro is what I’m saying what I’m saying we can’t technical with positions because Kyrie technically is a point guard playing right now which makes him a combo guard that’s what I’m saying you literally describe what a combo guard is bro that’s what it is okay so we can we can we can we can debate that part of it that’s that’s semantics but personally from a Talis standpoint either one of these guys can be a number one on any te on on most teams you can’t say that about other about other top Duos you can’t say Klay Thompson is not going to be number one Joe D Mar is not not going to be a number one like I’m just saying I’m not I’m not talking about I’m not talking about how they bro Joe buar is would not be a number one how do you know that he never had a that’s not his he doesn’t want to be number one that’s not first of all that’s not his game but he never was asked to do that so that’s kind of unfair that’s an unfair argument because you got a point guard that you talking about Joe Dumars is not even a point guard right that’s so like I said that’s kind of unfair that’s like comp LeBron and Jordan positionally that’s not fair what do you mean play two different positions bro so so wait so are you saying jod D and Kyrie play two different positions because I feel I feel I feel they’re both combo guards they both can play the one or the two what did isaah and jod D do back in the day they used to they used to alternate back and forth okay I got it for a I got it for a few a lot of guys can play one to three that don’t mean I’m I’m going call him a combo guard because they can play one to three what do they play most that’s fine but we talking about these guys what does Kyrie Kyrie don’t play the three Kyrie plays the one or the two J jod plays the one or the two that’s it that’s what makes them a combo guard that’s what I’m saying so since that’s their position like that’s why I’m just saying strictly I’m not talking about fit I still think fitwise the other two are better than these two like clay and and Steph and jod I they’re better fits to me I’m just talk and they and they may have better chemistry I’m just talking about the talent bro just the raw ability that’s all I’m saying Luca has Luca in my opinion will be he’s on track to be a top 10 player of all time in my opinion if he keeps this up he’s gotta keep it up but he has that possibility I’m telling you I’m telling you what I know I’m telling you yeah I’m not I’m not I’m not stuck in the moment listen I’m saying I’m not I’m not even saying he’s gonna get there I’m saying on track the same way itman is on track the same way Jas is on track these guys are all going to get there but they’re on track that’s all what I’m saying he has that ability Kyrie we know what he’s done we we we’ve know he’s done since Duke he went number one for a reason you know what I’m saying like so I’m just saying strictly from Strictly from Talent L Thompson is not more talented than either of these guys no way Talent don’t make you the greatest all the time it don’t no it don’t I agree with you bro I’m not saying they’re the greatest I don’t know who said they was the greatest I’m just saying talent wise you go talent for talent that don’t that doesn’t increase your greatness that’s just your talent you know what I’m saying and their talent it ain’t nobody who was more more talented when you when you dump like you dump their talent into a pot there there’s isn’t another back court that’s gonna have more of that they just have the most talent I beg to different you think you think J is more talented than way off of J there’s plenty of other uh guards first which one of them is more talented than T-Mac more talented than T me which one of them is more talented than T-Mac talented like naturally which one of them is more talented than Michael Jordan hold on hold on Kyrie is more talented than T-Mac to me he’s not as big he’s not as big yeah yeah for sure yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah and Tac is one of my favorite players of all time T Tac had no weakness but neither does Kyrie Irving what what weakness does Kyrie Irving have first of all I’m not even I’m not even going into like I said I didn’t want want to mention Michael Jordan I don’t want to mention Kobe Bryant I want to mention all these great do Tac is more talented to me they look good in the moment Kyrie’s cute with the basketball I get it but I a talk highlight bro we talking all time bro listen it’s not just cute cuz you know why it’s not just cute cuz they in the finals again he’s the finals again that’s it ain’t just cute if it was cute he’ be doing he wouldn’t have beat Minnesota if it was just cute he would beat just like people come on man this is that’s not even a I’m not talking about who’s a better player who’s more talented you must be 10 years old bro ain’t no way you gonna look and tell me a I watch entire career that Kyrie is better than him I’ve been in both eras Kyrie Irvin is not better than than Tracy mcre that’s not hold on that’s not what we said we said who’s more talented see he’s not more talented yes he is tmac literally can do everything everything what can’t what can what can Kyrie do defend he can’t okay so I’ll give you that I’ll give you that he ain’t going out there banging on your Center no I give you that but KY better he can a better shoter the court pulling up damn near half court like T-Mac used to do no he’s not he’s not but Kyrie’s a better shooter Kyrie’s a better passer what makes you think he’s a better shooter cuse he’s a better shooter look it up he’s a better shooter historically what makes you think that statistically look it up he’s a better shooter than him man no you didn’t throw statistics at minute wait a minute wait a minute what El look at what else you’re gonna look at shooting wise El than numbers when be looking at his better shooter come on bro leag that’s two different eras so what other metric are you going to use give me one I’ll wait what metric we using man to Define shooting I just gave you one you so give me one we we’re talking about who we using we’re talking about overall just that shooting right so let’s talk about that’s one attribute but why are you giving it to T-Mac instead of Kyrie I just gave you a number that said ky’s the world’s better shooter than K like like T no no no no all I said was he’s a better shooter more three-pointers because he I didn’t say he was LE all I said was King he’s a better shooter and I moved on said he’s a better that though because TMX shot a lot more two-pointers than Kyrie so just because you shoot more threes don’t make you a better shooter I’m not talking about just threes I’m not talking about just bro people talk about Kyrie being the toughest shot maker ever as a guard what are you talking about what talking about has those typ those tough shots because he’s little but guess he still makes him that’s F makes him but he still makes him at a higher clip that’s my point he’s more efficient he’s more efficient bro that’s my point that’s you’re you’re you’re of a player and say he’s just better than another player because of that I just can’t I can’t see myself doing that I can’t and have Derrick Rose and Kyrie Irving in the same room and pick Kyrie Irving I can’t do that no I’m not see that’s I ain’t doing that I’m not all time like that it’s like bro yeah we in a moment right now but bro let’s not throw away all these other resumes you know what I’m saying I I don’t think we throwing them away I I don’t think I don’t think it’s disrespectful to say that I don’t I don’t think it’s disrespectful to say that we’re recognizing this Talent right here for what like to me it sounds like marketing well you know why I don’t think so I’ll tell you why I don’t think so because of who it came from Stan vany don’t give a damn about no marketing bro it’s Stan Van Gundy I’m I’m already taking what he’s saying with a grain of salt n n I’m not I’m not I’m not this man is known for saying outlandish things bro but he’s no I’m not I’m not gonna do the to I’m not NBA legends opinion than stav and Gundy bro anything I I disagree that I disagree I think he’s a very intellectual basketball mind say anything to intelligent in my life I you must not listen to the game last night bro because he he’s insightful man he’s insightful it’s a reason he’s calling these games right now bro the reason and it’s not just for it’s not just for the clickbait it’s not just for the sound bites it’s because of his Brilliance either man I think it is a lot of guys that that do games that be on TV that ain’t the smartest cookie off the off the tripping board either I’m not talking I’m talking about calling games I’m talking about actually calling the like who do you see that calls a games don’t know what you’re talking about I just know staning gets in the moment a lot of guys get in the moment don’t but it doesn’t mean that it’s not true it doesn’t mean it’s not factual it’s not they’re not I think they are not I think I think it’s Up For Debate I think it’s Up For Debate they definitely in the conversation I think it’s it’s I think it’s three I think it’s three back courts and they are in that conversation 100% if they if they play each other that would be interesting to see oh that would be interesting to see I’m just telling you okay just telling you bro no um yes Josh I do remember um somebody said do I remember seeing what T-Mac did the 13 points in 35 seconds absolutely I watched that live Marvin I watched this live bro absolutely like me and King of the same age y’all I’ll be 38 years old this year I i’ I’ve been around the block a few times I’ve seen judment is questionable because you 38 and you still James is the best basketball player all time abely absolutely that’s that’s just because all the Baby Boomers are stuck in the past and they want to let go there a lot of people that’s our age I’m not saying you we’re all the same as LeBron’s all of us the same age yeah he’s literally truly our era and I’m telling you Michael Jordan is better than LeBron Jes I’m telling you he’s not and when people just thought toss Kobe off to the side I look at him crazy too I do too I you know like bro Kobe did win without Shaq twice absolutely he actually won Kobe and Kobe and LeBron are the only two guys who I think like have the ability to win series are not supposed to you know what I’m saying like Kobe was supposed to beat the Celtics that year either time both of those times the Celtics would have better deeper teams to be honest but he he would into a victory like that game seven Boston La was was similar to the game seven of um we think about like the Spurs and the Heat in 2013 just that that dog fight game seven neither team is really playing that well playing that well but Kobe shot six for 24 but had 15 rebounds found a way to win you know what I’m saying LeBron James did he had triple double in the in in game seven something crazy found a way to win huge like so those two guys that’s why I respect the two of them that’s why I think Kobe does should give more love because he does things that he’s not he wins games that he’s not supposed to win that’s just he’s just psychotic like that he’s just crazy like that so yeah like I’m not as far as Kobe Ain no no you you for me about about before LeBron came to the league Kobe was my favorite player you know what I’m saying that was my guy here’s the crazy part though for a lifelong time wait a minute okay hold on pause that real quick goad this has to be a joke yeah it is okay okay just checking just checking like I said I’m still getting to know you Marvin so I don’t know when you on your when on your cap and when you’re not because I I was about to have an aneurism reading half half of that message I I grew up hating Kobe Bryant with everything really my dad was a Pistons fan but he also was a Lakers fan which I thought was yikes like Michigan Ohio State look he would come in the living room and he would like the lake is running i’ be like bro you say get out of here I could St Kobe I could not stand but by the end of his career I could do nothing but respect him I could do nothing because of his mentality once you know we beat them and you know once you know Shaq left and all everything else I learn to respect this game like I I couldn’t deny it I could not deny it right Le on the other hand that’s different you know see nobody but yeah okay somebody paying attention like I you can mention the Warriors he wasn’t supposed to beat them it’s so crazy because I always say this all the time if he doesn’t win if he if they don’t win that him and Kyrie by the way who we just talking about if they don’t win go like Michael Jordan regardless of how he may feel about LeBron at this point and all this different stuff I bet you he was a fan of LeBron that night 2016 game seven you know why me because if it wasn’t for LeBron if it LeBron if it was LeBron gold state would have been known went down as the best team ever best reg season recorders in 2004 and it happened and they did it even better so what say again the Pistons wern’t supposed to beat the Lakers in 2004 and it happened I mean it happens every once in a while well what you mean it wasn’t supposed to happen it was supposed to happen we were better than them everybody outside of Detroit didn’t think it was supposed to happen because they W paying attention casuals casuals out there saying man we were you surprised when we beat them 8876 game Bri is the Kane he’s supposed to be Golden State you no golden state is the juggernaut he’s the though bro you the greatest player in the world you always supposed to win when you’re if he Kan then they’re Thanos huh like if he’s Kan then they’re Thanos Golden State like literally supposed to be more like Thanos that’s just one person what happened when when Thanos was trapped by everybody when Spider-Man had one glad you said that I’m glad I’m glad you said that when they had Thanos like this when strange had one arm Spiderman had the other arm everybody somebody had his leg and was on top of yeah you as strong as you are but you got bullies like this what you going to do it’s hard it’s hard to win like that he managed to win and bying his fingers he managed to win doing Draymond wasn’t playing so that that’s Draymond fault that’s Draymond fault not Checkers just not Checkers no that’s Draymond he he got baited and fell for the bait like a dummy he fell right for the bait that LeBron laid him like a dummy that’s why if LeBron step over him he gota do nothing talk to the ref tell him bro he trying to get he he playing no that’s your fault you you already you already won a championship you already W you didn’t been before you won the championship I don’t hear no excuses about you getting ejected because you did that you should know to do those moments when in Miami I don’t acknowledge that I acknowledge him again Cleveland you know what I’m saying even though why him Miami because bro like come on wait a minute bro okay you don’t Miami you don’t ackowledge the bubble like what do you acknowledge the bubble is High School league I’m not do you acknowledge I’m just asking what do you acknowledge why not Miami why not Miami I mean yeah he got the Rings I acknowledge the Rings okay that team is like come on bro like look what y’all did like what you know what I’m saying the team they put together was ridiculous okay let me ask you a question after their big three who was their best three players what do you mean after their big three who were best three players everybody was already gone before the Big Three separated you them guys they was gone already I’m saying when they were there who was who was those guys you said Ray Allen who else who who were the other other all those guys on that team contributed man it was three who else everybody played their part like who everybody on the team see give me names that’s my point that’s my point you can’t even give me names I mean you can’t everybody on the team can’t be a star even Chris not saying I’m not saying being a star but look at the teams we got now Chris BOS was averaging 28 and 15 before he came to Miami he took a step back too all of them other guys like uh ugis Mike Miller all those guys Ray Allen Ray Allen won you some games single handed no Ray Allen won yeah he yeah 100% I gotta give them guys credit too because it’s not like they were they weren’t there you know what I’m saying they were definitely there and there anine wasn’t there Antoine was there when they won in 2006 when be Dallas um he was gone by then but GP was there yes no GP was also gone he was also there in 2006 when they beat Dallas um udon hen was there yes Mike Miller was there yes for the first one Chad was there so they had decent Ro players but it wasn’t like they were busting but they were like just 12 deep of great you know what I’m saying it wasn’t like that that’s all I’m trying to say everybody they had a a huge big three and a bunch of French allars now they were topheavy that’s why they their cap was so terrible they had huge cap or huge huge contract huge contract huge contract vet minimum vet Min it was a bunch of vet minimums after that so it wasn’t like they just had a huge deep crazy team they just you still had LeBron D way and Chris Bosch bro who were all were all still at the peak of their games bro and then Ray Ray Allen was definitely still Ray no he he was on the downside by that no he as shoot shooting he will still himself yes but not but not for the same amount of time he he would do it in spots because he was getting older like he wasn’t Milwaukee Seattle even Boston realen this is Miami Ren at the end he was still good like you said but in spots he wasn’t giving you 30 minutes a night he was giving you 20 maybe you know what I’m saying so even with him you got him but it was just a a smaller sample size of him so even you see what I’m saying so it wasn’t that’s all I’m saying I know I know you get it but I’m just saying it was like thank you Marvin you really GNA mention look at this really that was listen that was our our Center Jo is our Center he play for Detroit ter Point listen the Chicago bills at one point had [ __ ] bill cartright bro yeah sure sure but Bill car is better than Joel Anthony huh Bill car is better than Joel Anthony man yes he is don’t do that don’t you do that both of those dudes are irrelevant to me so they’re both irrelevant to me I’m just saying other teams had bums too bro every team has bums every team has bums 100% getting together was diabolical at that time it was but it never seen it was never seen before in that era right and but that just shows you can’t just put Talent together and think it’s gonna work yeah because right I you see what I’m saying because the first year right Dallas Dallas taught him a lesson straight up Dallas taught him a lesson about team basketball B and they knew who they were you know what I’m saying but you got to give Miami credit yes they had that big three it was unprecedented even I don’t even think Boston’s big three was as talented as this one because they were more so in the down of their career at the end of the peak in the peak right so so you’re right so all three of those guys are Peak players D way was was about to drop but he was still there with right right right you got a couple and then I think in 2014 when they got when they got beat by to Spur his KNE he was like averaging like 15 16 points it was just like yuck yuck but that first couple years you’re right they were great great team but look at who they had to go against man I’m not talking about the East because you’re right the East wasn’t as tough until later for them like you you got your Bost and you had your Detroits and stuff like that but I’m talking about our West the teams he had to play once he got on the biggest stage when you get to the biggest stage that’s when people remember your record they do not remember the first the Eastern Conference first round they don’t remember the semi-finals they don’t remember the conf they don’t remember anything that happens within your conference all they remember is what happens when you get to the final and that’s why it benefits Jordan and H LeBron it is what it is but that’s why it benefits Jordan and her LeBron so with that you got to give Ron credit for who he played though when he got there because Jordan never played a San Antonio Jordan never played a golden state and that’s not taking nothing away from Jordan he’s six no for a reason I I I ain’t doing that but I am saying LeBron I’m not I’m not taking away from Jordan’s wins I’m just looking at LeBron’s losses I’m saying listen I like the way you just tried to to brainwash the listeners cares about what it takes to get there in this era in the 90s of Jordan this Great era yeah oh it meant everything who you play to get there because he had to go through hell just to get there it’s not agre just just it’s it’s the total opposite LeBron had to go through nobody to get there Jordan had to go through everybody to get there that’s what I’m saying you have to beat three good [ __ ] teams just to get to the finals so work right that work right there in itself [ __ ] you could have been gassed in the finals but no you still took care of business no you Gass because whoever he was playing the finals is week listen LeBron had to go through [ __ ] uh Lowry and goddamn Demar de rozan Toto you know I’m saying and it’s like but he no let’s be fair he also had to Boston that same Boston team were talking about that they was kids no no no no talkon the old Boston so they too young and they too old come on bro come on man you’re you’re not GNA cat you’re not gonna catch everybody was when Jordan beat them you don’t we can do that with anybody everybody like Prime player vers Prime player short live that’s why they was a flash in a pan already a blip but when they were there they were Peak that’s what matters when LeBron played them they were still Peak Last Ride damn near They just won in 2008 I’m just saying bro it was only a couple years later they won in 2008on played them after that in 201 like 10 2011 wasn’t a long time later it was it was still them same guys and he also had to beat Detroit us he’ to beat us remember that 29 29 straight points off straight we was at the end of the Rope too we were but you still gotta beat them the Pistons the end of the Rope when Jordan beat them the Celtics at the end of rope when the Pistons beat him it’s that’s how it goes that’s how it goes don’t take away because that’s how it goes that’s how it goes it always you gotta be throw the K sometime the end of the Rope teams will beat the the team that’s in their Prime like Dallas and Spurs kick their asses in Miami both of those teams were definitely at the end of the rope and they still managed to whoop they ass because when they were Peak they were great they weren’t great long but when they were they were good that’s what I’m saying it don’t matter how long you are when you go up against this team what are they that’s what matters I don’t care if you’re good for one year if you’re great that year you’re great if I gotta play you I gotta play you just from Talent alone Miami should have won they just got outsmarted out there no they did they got out the same way Anthony Edwards got outsmarted by Dallas it’s the same it’s we talked about that J kid is doing the same thing to Anthony Edward that he it’s the same thing that’s why I give him credit BR stop it they they beat them in five games for LeBron no no no when D Rose W when D stop it stop it stop it stop it when when D Rose won the MVP D Rose never beat LeBron the playoffs ever stop it he never beat him the playoffs ever when D Rose won the MVP guess how many games they r that series Listen Hold on hold on hold on LeBron in the playoffs Rose never went and [ __ ] assembled the Super Friends either so because LeBron couldn’t get pass people and he he ran his ass to Miami so a minut you can’t say that about D ran his ass to Miami why why and why didn’t he let’s look at roster construction shall we no yo yes bro listen compare Chicago Bills team you’re talking about to the in cing clav team that brought had the first time any of them any of them I will wait who’s better who is the best important cat you got Joe Noah you got L you got KK H you got G Butler who got over there Drew good Aus m p Ruby Gibson stop it stop it if the Bron play on that Chicago B Team listen play on that Chicago Bills team there’s no way he’s ever leaving you put D roll on Cleveland they are a bottom Team every single year bro why couldn’t you put why couldn’t you bring talent to your team it’s Cleveland who go to you James it don’t matter you still got it still gota be somewhere that you want to go to bro and think about this think about this why would I want to go here when I know his owner don’t even care about the team you want to go play for danbert you wantan to play for danbert not not buying it you put teams together all the time talk way couldn’t have got nobody to come over there to Cleveland you don’t think he tried look it up bro you gotta do your Googles he tried to get people there they knew just like we knew that think about it if we as fans know D G is not a good don’t care about their team you think everybody else in the NBA don’t know that they know that’s why that’s why Lebron left because they weren’t doing anything I don’t care what y’all say man LeBron on that team they did not give him any help if you’re going to compare the LeBron’s Supporting Cast to D Rose’s Supporting Cast the pting cast Ms them up every single time D B is allar he’s still playing right now who any of LeBron’s teams was nearly as good as Jimmy Butler I wait don’t change subject tell me who on that team was as good as Jimmy Butler we can talk about we can talk about of the day LeBron James will never be better than Michael Jordan I fine I’m just making sure I shut this D step down no way we talking about D Rose and LeBron James in the same conversation be not doing that I don’t care who was hurt I don’t care what happened no put LeBron James on Chicago Bulls teams and I guarantee you they get at least two championships LeBron say if D Rose would have went to Miami with da uh D way and Chris Bosch they would have won more rings than LeBron did how how can you that how can you argue that he never won how can you argue somebody who never won is going to win more than somebody who has won first of all Bro you’ve never seen him pass he never even got to the Conference Finals bro except for that one time you mean it I’m you telling me that an MVP MVP player couldn’t go to Miami with that same roster and win rings I didn’t say he would he said he win more always got that they should no LeBron shut him down bro Leon down person I ever seen in my life no no LeBron James it’s a reason though go look at the history how those series play out they never play more than five games in the playoffs I’m just saying bro so I don’t want toar no I don’t want to hear D Rose had a great team he had a great team that was team wasn’t great it was oh it was good now they had multiple they had Jimmy but was allar Jo no was allar Carl was allar stop what is an allar it’s something that Brian didn’t have until he went to Miami oh God you just set up here and said Chris BOS was an Allstar and D way was an Allstar they were at the peak of their game those guys were gu they were they were top league players top tier listen listen to me listen to me listen to me you had Jimmy Butler who is a defensive clamper you had was a but guess what he was still a defensive clamper he just was an offensive player look it up that’s what he did he didn’t even form out offensively yet at that point I just said that I said he was a def defensive clamper but listen let me finish this is my point they had Jimmy Butler they also had Jo know who the defensive player of the year Defensive Player of the Year okay are we are we saying he’s better than J what I’m saying right now yeah Defensive Player of the Year don’t mean nothing oh so with B Wallace is that what we doing did Ben Wallace had more impact on the game like I said defensive player of the year does not have as much imp does Joe Noah he did so you can’t just say you can’t compare him you literally just said his and then you can’t say just because really you can’t have both ways bro so he had a defensive play of the year a perimeter clamper a All-Star caliber forward and Carlos Boozer come on man he had a bunch of guys on his team it wasn’t like he wasn’t he didn’t have a team he just couldn’t get past the best player of the game you said it right he had a bunch of guys on this scene I’m talking about like like dogs he had dogs they were the best defensive team in the league and couldn’t win more than one game against Bron ever numbers don’t lie well tell you what the other Bulls uh got to the final six times and one all of them yeah because it was a yeah because it was a cakewalk once they got there it wasn’t a cakewalk to get there it’s fine that’s fine but he could he should have got there more times you could argue that you can you can argue that get there I mean call cake cak Walker not in the finals fine I I whatever you want to say but those teams it’s not like they didn’t have Hall of Fame players that they was going up against them finals no I’m not denying that I’m not denying that at all you can call iTalk because the Bulls made it look like that no they didn’t no they didn’t no that’s why they struggled so long they didn’t make it look easy at all that’s why they they kept getting poau by us Jord it’s the reason Jordan never beat Larry bir in the playoffs listen Jordan never beat Larry bir in the playoffs listen ever he played him a few times never beat oh so now be doing that now he was a kid okay he was also a kid was a kid huh with kid he is and you see what just happened he didn’t get he didn’t get swept in the first round he didn’t get popped in the first he didn’t as a kid one of the greatest teams ever who you talking about the Celtics okay oh Edwards is going against [Music] no we talking about walking in Walking In okay so when Jordan walked in as a rookie those teams he was facing those teams was put together Denver is put together he he lost to Denver last year he beat Denver this year what you talking about you saying listen listen if Minnesota if Minnesota doesn’t beat Denver in game seven Denver’s winning the title again again what are we talking about so that’s what I’m saying man he’s young you can’t use that young argument you got young guys young dogs doing it right now I don’t want to hear that listen what young guy what Young dogs is doing it right now he’s doing it right now baby right now Scot on that on that team that’s doing anything who is his Scotty Pippen cat those dudes is not young dogs who is his Scotty Pippen who it’s cat is Cat better than Scotty pipping no he’s not but it’s still cat okay okay cat played well they won when he well but that’s the difference you didn’t have that problem with Scotty Pippen then that’s why he’s not better than him that’s my point you forgot when when the Bulls was going with the I’m not talking about that one game when he had the migraine I’m not talking about that yes it was used to sign Scotti Pippen man what are you talking about that’s a whole season of them doing that to him no he he didn’t miss time like it wasn’t and think about it at the time he was guarding the best player that’s what they needed him to do because Jordan was getting tired it’s a reason Jordan never won not even he didn’t WI a playoff game before he never Michael Jordan never won a playoff game until Scot got there any and every not serious any and every statistical stat that actually [ __ ] matters when it comes to the playoffs matters to you with conference play Jordan is better than LeBron no he’s not no he’s not LeBron more points than Jord huh he’s not aver je still currently today he still does not average more points than Jordan did what other stat can you use in a different ER what other stat can you use what other things did he not average more than him rebounds nope make Ste nope rebounds nope blocks no assist no here we go nope give me a second up give me a second look it up so this is what I’m saying Michael Powell yes this is my point see why do we always look at Jordan’s competition but we don’t look at LeBron’s competition you’re right they had to beat those Celtics teams right those five Hall of Famers the same way they say about Jordan playing the Pistons were older our Parish was old points per game LeBron James fifth Michael Jordan first playoff points I want the numbers Jordan first LeBron’s six SC titles six LeBron mention SC first Finals MVP Jordan first LeBron second all defensive teams Michael Jordan first LeBron fifth player efficiency rating in the playoffs Michael Jordan first LeBron third you lucky his head in the way I can keep going all the way down that every statistical that matter a minute a minute wait a minute rebounds don’t matter wait a minute hold on wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute do do do do rebounds matter do steals matter do assists matter do blocks matter do any of those other permission PE you’re not mentioning rebound Ste he didn’t average more steals than Jordan either look at how many the average how many the average never mind I I have being stat unless you want to we go I’m saying y always try to use stats with LeBron why use St the Y y’all used to y’all get so desperate y’all try to use stats y’all try to use longevity he play for this many years Kobe played 20 years no Kobe didn’t play top n for 20 years what were Kobe stat last season huh bro what were his stats in laston last game of his career 60 points on how many shots huh 40 40 shots to get 60 points stop it he still did stop it who anybody can do that if you give me the ball look time I can score that much if I get enough shots everybody his last game stop it bro he play Utah go AOW up playing 25 years in the league is not a glow up Jordan is better to you and he did it in less years that’s not a glow like saying LeBron James is the the the scoring title holder Kareem had it all them years and he used two-pointers that’s not a that’s because he so what does that mean so how is that how is that LeBron is more impressive that Kareem held it for that long no it’s not no it’s not no it’s not I’ll tell you why I’ll tell you why I’ll tell you why but is when LeBron James came into the league was he was he a three-point shooter he came in the league at 18 first was he a three-point shooter and then you look at the amount of years that he played no not just that look at the amount of time he put into his game you just talk about you don’t you don’t just spray elixir on your forehead and you just learn how to shoot bro come on bro what we talking about when LeBron first listen listen listen listen I do that I do team I’m not gonna let you do that Hur team for that many years we l we’re literally talking about Kareem who had a LeBron James on his team to give him the ball that’s what we’re talking about oh God who did LeBron James have on his team to get him the ball in spots where he likes it first of all he had the ball most of the goddamn time because he had to that’s the whole point nobody else could nobody else could do what he could do that’s the whole point bro put the ball put the ball Karin here let him the B the court what’s he gonna do just Envision that just Envision Kareem WS him down the court with the basketball bro what he ever do he doesn’t have the ability to that a post player that mat Johnson has to decide to toss the ball to had the scoring title for those years point shots with the basketball in his hand all the [ __ ] time he’s got a in a league that shoot threes what is LeBron’s best attribute what do you mean his best attribute what is his best attribute what is he best at I still was say scoring stop he he passes the ball he’s not Magic Johnson I didn’t say he was Magic Johnson I said what his best attribute where did he come to the Le no bro no why is he okay if he’s if he’s best at scoring why wait why did he never play shooting guard if his best attri is scor why did he never play shooting guard because he’s facilitating that’s since you don’t since you bro he’s averaging seven for his career for his career what are you talking about he’s aing seven assist for his career what are you talking about really really no he having seven turnovers for his career he don’t have seven assist in his career nobody in the game really a seven even now nobody in the game of all don’t even get me started I can I can go guards changing you’re changing the argument though you’re changing the argument I asked you what was his best attribute and you said scoring come come on bro he’s best as a facilitator everybody who’s watching this knows that you’re running you’re running he’s best as no he’s not no see here’s the no you don’t want to admit that his best attribute is passing the ball because he’s the alltime greatest scorer I’ll tell you what he shouldn’t have pass the ball but his best attri ising when LeBron came in as a rookie he could pass the ball he always could since he was a middle school that’s he’s best at I’m talking about my high school play his high school that’s what he’s best at I get it you know what I’m saying that’s what’s best attribute he does it best attribute we talking about somebody giving you 35 40 points in game because he learned how to do that look at his stats when he first came into the league look at his efficiency no it wasn’t no it wasn’t look it up he didn’t average 20 points his first couple Seasons first season in the league he didn’t aage 20 points but average seven assists how many assists he or averaging the first seven seven that’s my whole point it never changed always listen listen he always had a high assist count he did not always have a high point game Count what did I tell you because you talk about the first damn uh season of his career we’re talking about a 20y year career here brother look listen to me listen to me he always had a high assist count even coming into the league he didn’t always have a hyp listen listen listen no listen not his best attribute listen listen if he came into the league at Peak Performance as getting assists and he came in as mid scoring and the only thing that got better was the scoring that means he came in as a better passer than he was a score I don’t care what he came in as what are you talking years so why did it change because he changed it because he got better at it otherwise he wouldn’t have became a better scorer you’re making my point LeBron that’s what makes it better if he if he became a better scorer that means that wasn’t what he was best at think about what you’re saying stream do y’all get what I’m saying do y’all get what I’m say there’s no way he came into the league leag whatever he may have average seven assists coming in leag my man’s been here for 20 years bro okay is better known has he been doing this the whole time many different levels has he been doing this the whole time scoring like this the whole time uh it damn sure didn’t take long before he got that’s not what I asked you that’s not what I asked you he more years better score King answer my question yes or no did he do this the whole time when he came into the league day one yes or no yes or no yes or okay so why did he get better what do you mean why did why did his point totals increase because he worked on his game and he exactly only took two years it doesn’t matter how long it took it wasn’t his best King it doesn’t matter how long not listening to me not listening 18 years you’re not listening you’re not listening the argument is what is his best quality not how long took him to get better this is why he’s my best my my favorite player and not yours this is why scoring this is why he’s my favorite player and not yours time assist leader he ain’t even to nobody is nobody is because John ston has got 5,000 more than anybody because of the pick and roll car alone stop stop that’s not what talking about the attribute and his story story leader scoring that doesn’t mean anything you really just talked about longevity how you gonna say longevity don’t matter and then say he scoring don’t just because you play 85,000 years don’t mean you the greatest that ain’t you just you you’re just the Iron Man is what you are that don’t make you the greatest I take Michael Jordan and have him played 15 Seasons more Rings he’s Gest why didn’t he what do you mean why didn’t he because he played baseball why because he wanted to why you can leave you can walk out with three rings and come back and win do you no you can’t no you can’t no you can’t if run in got like LeBron ass do no he got humble he had take this dude Jordan took a two-year vacation because he couldn’t handle it couldn’t handle what he couldn’t handle gambling he couldn’t handle gambling problem David Stern him sit down listen you’re not listening you’re not listening David Stern told him to sit down sit down sit down that’s what he told her do it ain’t no oh I want follow I want to go follow my Father’s Footsteps and put no that’s not what happened bro that’s a cover story go look it up that’s not what happened that’s not what happened that’s not what happened bro to not have Michael Jordan sit out for two years bro you crazy look it up look it up if you can if anybody can Pro goddamn my to you must be 10 years old uh 10 years old too talking buckets who said what yeah you are getting cooked bro no you getting cooked I’m sorry like out of your [ __ ] mind you getting CED right nowo logical bro you getting cooked you’re not answering my questions we keep moving the go post every five minutes bro I’m trying to get you you you running with LeBron he’s this and he’s that I brity Jord is the greatest player he’s not yeah it will the same way the same way the same the same way it ended when they thought it was Kareem and then Jordan came and took that manle give it 10 20 years everybody’s gonna be saying LeBron James a greatest player too just wait and see time will catch up and everybody will see what I’m talking about time will catch up what the man ain’t winning no more Rings it’s over don’t matter and how you know he how how you know he not getting no more Rings how you know who he gonna beat who where’s he gonna go is a question have you not seen dudes on their way out him Kevin Durant all them they on way got to be the same guy no more it’s a rap bro he ain’t gota be the same guy no never win another ring Leon James who see you literally the worst lak I’ve ever seen the worst L you’ve ever SE okay all right bro I don’t know what say like you’re literally just making statements without any basis like why you just you just say I never seen nobody as the leader of the league as a Laker that lose so much he ain’t better than Kobe has a l he’s 40 years old what do you want to do you just saw k you just saw K le Lebron listen you want to know why Lebron ain’t retired because he’s still chasing the greatest player of all time he’s not chasing nobody no no no no what he’s doing he’s putting these records out of out of out of existence he’s putting these recers Out Of Reach because know that’s his only chance at even arguing that he’s better than than Michael Jordan’s doing because of Michael Jordan so that is why Lebron is doing this bro let’s just say it is it don’t mean he a the greatest just say that’s what it is okay if you would to say that’s what it is how that what’s what’s the argument there so okay this man is still chasing Mike he’s still chasing him how do you know you chasing him what what are you basing this on King what do you mean he’s chasing him then he say he’s chasing Michael Jordan bro come on you got you gotta stop doing you gotta stop doing that chasing Michael Jordan bro huh what you’re you’re that’s your narrative that’s your conclusion you my narrative or my conclusion why are you still playing at this age LeBron you still trying to win rings at this age because you want to be this is the difference know in order to be the greatest you have to still play I’ll tell you why he’s still playing I’ll tell you why he’s still playing onlyon no you don’t think it’s possible to keep playing because you love playing basketball is Goku this [ __ ] is Vegeta I don’t care what you what it what you use what Dragon Ball Z or whatever you want to use I don’t care it don’t change the fact that it has nothing to do with that just because he’s playing you can’t you can’t assume and and and try to figure out assume you know why somebody’s still playing basketball it never passed Mike he did he’s I’ll tell you why he’s still playing I I’ll tell you look here’s why he’s still playing here’s why he’s still playing the reason that Jordan didn’t play the Lev the game you w see BR taking two years off and coming back you don’t see Bri chilling and coming back let’s do a consistent a m consistency for Years bro all Jordan would have did was win two more championships how how you know that who’s going to stop him Houston would have beat do he want to beat Houston twice what you just talking about he played a bunch of plumbers in the finals they W one of them okay they W one of them because those other plumbers didn’t have a Kim life wi we doing that that’s what we doing you trying that’s what we’re doing no I I ain’t got to try nothing but you you you making some senseless statements but baseless statements is not making sense bro you Mak that don’t make sense thank you eron he’s a better scorer that’s it thank you somebody he’s onedimensional Jordan also on let me finish let me finish let me finish let me finish diaper and go me finish me finish listen know how old he is you don’t know how old don’t do that you know how old he is here the thing dece is 37 years old wise man Cass 83 I’m three years sitting here telling me that years younger than you yeah yeah that’s what I’m saying think about this how many times did Jordan have to change his game because the game changed around him how many Steph Curry’s play when Jordan did to where he had to change his game because everybody’s shooting three pointers now LeBron James first play ever in the league was running off screens he doesn’t even do that anymore he’s had to change his game three four five times because the league changed around him and he adapted to the league and now he’s doing the same thing that everybody else is doing loose every argument you make ain’t got [ __ ] to do with winning bro I don’t care you can talk all day it’s just going this airing out this it ain’t got [ __ ] to do with winning Michael it do G changing your LeBron changed his game if you don’t listen listen M Jordan and Kobe Bryant win LeBron doesn’t stop stop it stop it if you put if you give if you give if you swap out Zulus a gasquez for Shaquille O’Neal what are we doing I’m just no no no you ain’t just saying I’m just saying you talking about how Kobe all he do is win he want two by himself he want let me finish let me finish he want two by himself aside from those two he didn’t any of those what me finish let me finish do not let me finish I’m trying to make a point my point is this what I said LeBron James has his a out with your have Dwayne way Chris BOS even work no no you’re wrong he play with d he can’t play with d way they play the same position that don’t even work that don’t even work they both went the ball in their head at the end of what position was D way playing when he was guard shooting guard he had the ball in his hand he was the shooting guard Gary Payton was the point guard caros Royal was the point guard Jason Williams was the point guard they had point guards on their team who had the ball in they hand and at the end game that’s not that’s not what we’re talking about we’re talking about the point guard for 48 minutes not the end game arue positions there’s no way that you can tell me that Kobe Bryant had D Wade and Chris BOS Ray Allen on this team he Kobe cannot adapt to D way the way LeBron can because Kobe can’t facilitate the way LeBron can it’s a different type of player are you laughing at you think LeBron you think Kobe’s better pass to LeBron you think it’s because LeBron’s facilitating bro what are you because because they’re different players that’s what I’m saying LeBron can play off the ball you don’t need to be getting the buckets now Kobe can’t do that L can D way that’s why they can’t play together e way can’t play off the ball I’m saying he he’s not going to Def e way can’t play off Kobe Bryant D way can’t play off the ball he gonna be sitting in the corner me with Kobe Bryant that D way Chris Bosch and Ray Allen couldn’t figure it out to win it’s too much of a repeat they play the same game bro Kevin Kobe Bryan and D way play the same game they’re both attackers who need to have the ball to get that that that’s and besides you’re changing the argument I said what if you gave Shaquille O’Neal AR argument what argument I’m responding to you you said all Lebron all Kobe and Jordan do is win I said if you give LeBron Shaquille new the way Kobe had him he don’t lose either first of all they actually win more championships LeBron don’t giv him the ball KOB see that’s the problem KOB wanted Kobe wanted to be the guy to always scor that’s why without without Shaq G absolutely but don’t make it seem like he didn’t get any of those three MVPs when Shaq was there bro he was robbing every time okay he won every time he was riding shotgun all three times he won all three times you give LeBron you put LeBron on that team or or you bring shq to Cleveland they never he won two rings with parasar that’s we already acknowledg that but you’re not acknowledging the other part what other part that if you give if you that he had Shaquille O’Neal as the number one d d way had Shaquille O’Neal what do you mean he was old yeah he was old still won but by the way he has Shaquil but who won MVP the finals dwade not Shaq so listen listen it doesn’t matter you can’t compare sh from Miami to sha la because sh La was still win F MVPs sha with Miami was Noto was the same guy no more Kobe would have won with Miami and and LeBron would have won eight championships with the Lakers if you get LeBron LeBron win with Paul Gasol and Derek fiser first of all he ain’t even got the killer mentality too because Kobe had to drive those games most of the time because those other guys wasn’t showing up he don’t no no what youan was showing up what you mean it wasn’t showing up you kidding me D fish wasn’t showing up Lamar Odin wasn’t showing up Ronald T wasn’t showing up poras wasn’t showing up man stop those those dudes was not showing up every day man you crazy Ray Allen Ray Allen is R out tant for the Lakers that big three that he made to win that game for them to put them away it’s the same thing let’s not discredit these guys the same am test that gave us problems when we played against them in IND Indiana stop bro stop again LeBron because we sitting here crediting this man for winning in the [ __ ] bubble LeBron James finals to Kobe Bryant he’s not worlds away from Kobe Bryant I’m not saying he’s not world see bro you can’t you can’t you can’t keep changing the argument you can’t keep changing the argument bro we down here on Earth with Kobe might be he might be as high as the moon right now yeah he might be as high as the moon that’s about it he’s in a whole different Stratosphere thank you STC he was old come on man in 2007 said that that was somebody in comments I’m talking about the argument argum to me is more LeBron and Kobe than it is he’s no comparison no comparison no no comparison you’re you’re you’re one of the only you’re one of the only you’re one of the only people who think not a comparison you’re one of the only people who think it’s not a comparison between Kobe and LeBron why is it not give me a good reason why because Kobe is a you can’t be a lesser version of the I’m telling you I’m telling you you can’t be the player one of the best players ever you not in best play position what you mean what Kobe in the best shooting guard ever what do you talking about bro that is argument LeBron supposed to be the the greatest shoot yeah your argument now what you mean all I’m saying is that you can’t compare him to Kobe what are we doing huh what are you talking about man no bro this this is this is crazy man this is crazy this is crazy bro like y see what I mean every time I he runs to some other obsolete ass you keep changing the subjects you keep changing the argument I say something you go somewhere else and I talk about that you go somewhere else I talk about that you I’m literally following you everywhere you keep running away you changing the argument from Shaq didn’t talking about Kobe now he talking about like you keep changing it bro how many rings got three huh three he got three rings okay how many rings do LeBron truly have four we’re not doing that we don’t do that King we’re not doing that he has four he has four stop it move on move on more MVPs how many MVPs Kobe got ring to me how many MVPs Kobe got what is that mean it’s a question how how many how many I mean [ __ ] Joel [ __ ] simple question K it’s a simple question are you not answering it because it’s not a good answer got MVP what does that mean are you not answering it because it’s not a good answer why you not answering I’m asking you a very simple question how many does he have I don’t [ __ ] know I don’t care he has one what does that mean that’s award if you have oh that those don’t matter they don’t then why we then why we saying that mvp that didn’t win a ring how many does the Bron have four has one how many Michael got how many does Michael have five more than LeBron he got five you don’t know that’s your gu how I know you w’t know he got five Kar got six K got more than everybody he got more more than anybody yeah I’m saying Kobe even if Kobe should have got two yeah Kobe should have had half number LeBron I’ll give him that he could have had half number LeBron I’ll give him that I’ll give him that so LeBron’s MVP is what you run to he just ran again I Y notic he just ran again to MVP I don’t know y know what y’all no I’m throwing a bunch of different stuff at him I’m I’m I’m throwing a bunch of different stuff at you working y’all n you just you just see that I’m backing my argument bro to a te I’m I’m backing it to a t bro I’m giving you stats I’m giving you games I’m giving you experiences you a gave me one goddamn stat second of all you giving me everything else besides when I tried to give you when I tried to give you stats you said Can Can I can I respond Leon LeBron cook grits better than Kobe I don’t day how do you gonna say how are you gonna say how are youna say how are you gonna say I didn’t give you stats when you told me all I use is stats what’s I’m say a lot I said a lot of you LeBron fans try to run to Stats so how you telling me now I’m not giving you stats you still haven’t gave me none but y’all try to run give you a bunch of stats I told you about his I told you how he had more rebounds I told you how he has more assists I told you a has more blocks I told you how he has more how he’s played at at a higher for more for more years my point is I’m giving you stats but still what do that gotta do with winning what you mean you just told me I’m not giving you stats to to to to quantify my argument I’m telling you I did give you I’m giving you like you said I didn’t give it to you I’m telling you I did give it to you what else do I gotta give you what else I give you listen I’m giving you everything you asking for bro I’m giving you everything you asking for Deuce this was a preview we done went a whole damn hour over talking to R and Jordan This is a preview ladies and gentlemen we probably this a long time ago man y’all better help y’ boy out cause I we gonna do a whole dedicator stream with this argument man help y’ boy out bring your stuff I don’t want to hear nothing about how many years he played I don’t want to care tell me how hear about what makes you the greatest player of all time see this is the thing this is what makes it the greatest player for you of all time what makes LeBron here’s the thing here’s the thing you’ll tell me what makes Jordan the greatest player to you because I’m not gonna tell you how to have your argument right you trying AR I’m going off of factual stuff I gave you tons of facts already they’re little facts like facts are facts no one cares stop no cares about you nobody g a damn about PR stop King you mention PR that’s one category you mentioned it God I was I was reading the list yeah yeah a bunch of small stats is what you all those other categories damn sure do matter instead of the ones I mentioned but you just mentioned to me rebounds and assists bro you mentioned P you mentioned P that was even a thing like five six years ago the knocks on LeBron is he passed the ball too Goddamn much in sit fine but you can’t say your stats are B and my stat no man when I look at the greatest player of all time okay you look atbr you look at LeBron okay I look at Trend setting I look at winning nothing to do with basketball I’m telling you I’m telling I’m talking about like okay first of all the league Michael Jordan literally transcended the entire league especially overse congratulations congratulations here a cookie we see some of the contracts we see right now if it wasn’t for for Michael I don’t care talking basketball basketball when it comes to LeBron too you can LeBron open school so that the youth the youth can have a better future is that what we doing his I promise he open his I promise talk huh I’m talking about the league I’m not even a fan of Michael Jordan a person then don’t mention off the court stuff because he didn’t do nothing for nobody off the court I’m talking about the League what are you talking about they ain’t got nothing to do with all all this trend Setter stuff has nothing to do with your ability the I’m talking about the league I said he I said I said the league I don’t care about that what about what he did for the NBA what he’s done all these out see now that don’t make you to go no well I’m telling you what makes you to go win makes you to go then why you mention all this other stuff that don’t mean nothing listen that don’t mean nothing bro n that don’t mean nothing when it comes to winning it’s not close it’s just not not yeah it’s really not you can put LeBron James and Kevin Durant together and still not have enough to be Jordan when it comes to winning you somebody who always tells me you can’t compare errors right so we can’t look at it and say well he has more championships that’s the end of the argument winning matters can’t do it it do it does it also matters who you play when you get there it also matter who you play when you get there if you’re sitting in the room with NBA players with NBA legends no one wants to hear about rebounds and assists the only thing they give a damn about is winning that’s why you then why you mentioning points that’s why I why why you mention then why did you mention that Jordan has more all time has is a higher average than it points don’t matter first those it don’t matter right you just said don’t matter just said it don’t matter using that you said don’t matter AR if he don’t matter no here’s your thing for you for you I see how you do I see how you for you no if he’s first it matters if he that’s what you if he use it take that I don’t need it then why you use it I you got a better chance arguing Kobe and LeBron no you don’t that no you don’t that’s not an argument LeBron and Kobe is not an argument bro why it’s not it’s not an argument I heard why why it’s not ask the goats ask the players what goats and players I’ve seen I’ve seen plenty of footage of people saying that how many you know got Rushmore huh you know Kobe R huh Michael Jordan still picks Kobe over LeBron because that’s his he because he is him Kobe is Jordan of course you gonna pick Kobe what do you him Kobe is Michael Jordan so why would Jordan pick over with one of the most [ __ ] [ __ ] personalities ever if it if Kobe wasn’t up to where he was Michael Jordan ain’t saying Kobe just because he that’s but he also views LeBron James in a different light bro y’all crazy y’all think Kobe better than LeBron James man it’s a lot of circumstantial a lot of is still out of those three he’s the most losing [ __ ] I’ve ever seen in the finals bro he he his situation was the worst no his situation was the worst bro I’m tell was he had the [ __ ] Cakewalk to the finals every who did he have on his team when he got there I don’t give a [ __ ] of course you don’t you don’t help your argument this mother AR godamn you going through goddamn to get there you got matter you’re Juggernaut almost every time you get there of course have more Championship he still has the team he still got his ass who twice by what would you rather do what would you rather do would you rather lose before you get there or lose when you get there minute wait a minute answer that question what would you rather do would you rather lose before you get there or lose every time when you get there because the team you playing on you every time you know what [ __ ] this Stephen A I don’t have time for this [ __ ] we come back and do a [ __ ] stream I’m bringing the [ __ ] Thunder you better be ready listen bro I do this to my sleep I do this to my sleep I I could went to law school I’m telling you when you was younger don’t mean that LeBron Jord you think got I’m pulling that goddamn video too I’m bringing everything to the table about your biasness bi everything to the court we F have court wa wa wait what bias what you talking about no listen I what bias there’s no way you’re sitting here and you still believe LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan all day oh we we we crazy that’s crazy talk bro that’s crazy talk I told you Aaron you can’t talk okay then we got Detroit how about how about how about Detroit then Aon listen I appreciate you being here but when grown folks is talking you can’t talk but listen choit is grown talk to him thank you thank you m drop thank you bye thank you bye out here that’s [ __ ] thank you no it’s not absolute [ __ ] thank you thank you bro he’s not thank you that’s [ __ ] who’s got more a better oh I’m bringing everything to table are that’s those are kids play [ __ ] arguments compared to what right all right King before we have any argument we gonna we’re gonna decide what is a valid point to argue because like Cho what’s important do this if you think in the comment section if you think LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan put a six in the comment if you are logical and you know Michael Jordan is don’t do that don’t do that that’s see that tell me I got him y’all I got him see he has to try to sweaty argument by saying see you’re done done you’re cooked I got you’re done bro you’re cooked you’re cooked it’s a w it’s over because you’re trying to AR you’re trying obviously is a that y’all try y’all catch how he trying to sway the argument anybody who is logical put a six he in the heas his put s in the CH this I got the reason that he said let me finish it’s a reason that he had to throw a logical piece in there y’all y’all here talking to me about me Swinging y’all he throwing stuff in there to make y’all think I don’t want to be logical let me put two three in here everybody I see what you doing bro it’s not working no put a six or a 23 in the comments no we’re saving that for next time I need LeBron because I don’t see no sixes be staying this for next time this is gonna be the next debate not today like you just said if the goal is about winning then BR Russell is the go right how many he got double digits so he the best ever then okay got it cuz that’s the stat that counts apparently first of all what when you calculate the goat you calculate those categories that I gave you early no no no no no no we’re going to collectively decide no King no no you’re not gonna decide you’re not undefeated in the finals one guy he stands alone in a lot of categories that’s F great is not even close to that that’s great guess what if I got a play O A if I gotta play the Lakers when they done if I gotta play Portland trailers when they ain’t never been there got popped by Detroit already if I gotta play the Phoenix Suns who never won anything no other Allstar other than Charles Barkley if I gotta play Utah Jazz who are old if I gotta play the St SuperSonics who abity for yeah win every time if I gotta [ __ ] go through goddamn Kyle Larry and demard Rose and every nobody remembers to the godamn final be there all the time what when he gets to the finals play real team ass real teams let’s talk about real team that shall we let’s talk about how many real teams did Jordan play in the finals huh what do you mean many real teams Jordan ever not favored in the finals never he was never not favored in the finals ever King ever how many times was LeBron not favored in the finals cuz the team just so much and it’s not cuz Jor was no it don’t even do that it’s got nothing to do with that the team playing it’s the team they’re playing straight up why that’s why I just told you why because he’s [ __ ] Michael Jordan no it’s not why that do that that has nothing to do with it think about it no King listen to me listen to me if he had to play against the Golden State Warriors in 2016 he would not be he heavily favored to beat that team I don’t care how good or how much Michael Jordan you think he is who is he play against y give you played against 2017 listen to me if you play play Durant issu 201 there’s no way he favored and there’s no way he ever win dude that works on a 10y old like this dude in the comments that don’t work against me you don’t want you don’t want to Adit it you don’t want to admit it I’m not talking about Jordan’s greatness I’m not talking about Jordan’s greatness I’m not talking about Jordan’s greatness compare compare Portland to Golden State compare phix to San Antonio can I speak what are you doing bro the teams don’t even mates up can I speak yes y’all give Golden State Warriors entirely too [ __ ] much credit in this I’m about to log off bro I’m about to log off he just say that because LeBron beat them you would only say that because LeBron played them if Jordan would have played them you would never we be on here till God damn explaining why he’s should have want if Michael Jordan played Golden State they would have know they never would have won one you’re you’re crazy bro you’re nuts you’re you’re literally nuts you’re literally nuts you don’t think you’re you’re you’re literally crazy bro LeBron had a 50 point triple double and they couldn’t even win that game when is Jordan ever got a 50 point triple double ever a 40 Point triple double ever a 30 point triple double ever a 20 point triple double is it happened Michael Jordan in this power puff ass League you losing your mind bro average 50 you’re losing your mind bro I didn’t say 50 I said triple double 50 point triple dou was he getting he pass the ball none because he can’t pass the ball he looking to score everybody know coming into the league he had nobody in this league is stopping Michael Jordan I didn’t say that word I’m not talking about scoring this man will lit 4 to 50 [ __ ] I said triple double stop picking your pop what I’m saying I said triple double what is that nobody cares what you mean nobody cares they should people you sound like you you’re literally saying all all scoring l a lot of y’all mess up when y’all start confusing the errors this is a Powerpuff ass erao no King you told me before we’re not going to do that you told me we’re not going to compare you said that so don’t do it now don’t do it now do not do it now you told me that two months ago when we was sitting right here that we’re not comparing erors so don’t do that you can’t use it now you a before we W gonna do that this is what I’m saying you gotta be consistent said in this league today a lot of those guys would have been unworldly good bro and that Bulls team I’m not say I’m not saying they wouldn’t you could easily say LeBron could have did the same thing back in the day bro how many guys are built like you ain’t let me finish what would you GNA say to to your Scotty pep you have to think about this era Scotti Pippen Michael Jordan Dennis Robin okay Golden State Steph Curry and Klay Thompson versus Michael Jordan and Scotty P you’re forgetting Kevin Durant te Dennis rman against Draymond Green who’s guarding Kevin Durant you’re telling me who’s guarding Kevin Durant they would have lost who’s guarding Kevin Durant who’s guarding Kevin Durant K King who’s guarding Kevin Durant who fighing Kevin Durant huh Scotty what are you Scot is destroyed by Kevin Durant are you kidding me you I’m done bro you just said Scotty is gonna shut down Kevin Durant I’m done bro done this is ridiculous listen listen to me who’s piing couldn’t who’s hoer guarding Le listen just LeBron couldn’t don’t mean Scotty Pippen who was a defensive player couldn’t bro bro Scotty can’t do nothing with K first of all was long enough to do it to no he’s not no he’s not nobody’s long enough to do it that’s the problem nobody is yes he is no he’s not Kevin Durant don’t see him the problem is listen the pro the problem is LeBron is not a def guy he runs down shots and slap a few shots off the backboard people want to say he play defense you are the biggest you are the biggest see I would understand if you just thought he wasn’t as great but you the biggest minimizer of LeBron that’s the problem you go too far to the other way bro no no no that’s fine never seen leoning three means nothing iring three means nothing if LeBron does not chase down Steph Curry passed to the shot Iguodala Kyrie shot I’ve never seen LeBron Che the best player on the team and stop okay you done who else D Rose D Rose yeah he got D Rose he shut D Rose down that last shot when they got eliminated D that’s what I’m talking about that’s You just prove my point play and say oh this man was Defensive it wasn’t even it’s not even a highlight play you know can I finish my statement oh maybe eagle dollar yeah LeBron is one of the greatest I’m literally giving you examples of what happened you’re not giving me any examples of anything would demolish the Golden State Warriors you’re crazy Curry would die trying to [ __ ] Michael Jordan who’s who’s guarding Steph huh Michael Jordan you not this man there’s no couldn’t you I tell you he wait a minute I’ll tell you why he couldn’t he he couldn’t even guard Miller I’m done couldn’t even call Reggie Miller did he beat Reggie Miller yeah he that’s not the point that’s not the point that is the point regie Miller over here hit game winners over this dude but H game winners over Jordan he gonna chase all Steph Curry who’s a better three-point shooter you’re crazy how tired is he he just talked about how tiredman was at the end of the game having a go Kyrie Irving that takes a toll that’s why Scotty people are so important cuz he guarded the best player and Jordan can stay flesh so Pimpin is not available to guard step because he’s guarding Kevin dur who’s guarding STA and if it’s Jordan how is Jordan going to perform offensively this is not hard man this is not hard this is not hard bro he made this young way he kept moving the argument bro stay on task he say something I address that he go go to something else I address that he go and and then I’m moving to go post I’m telling y’all man I I a’t stopping just cuz you gone it a over just C you g you better come back and defend yourself and carebody hear you we can’t hear you we can’t you got you gotta fix that you got we can’t hear you it’s probably better off that you muted because I think as long can’t nobody hear you bro we can’t hear you we can’t hear you and it’s probably better off you’re muted because you can’t first of all my first of all my laptop died because we’ve been on here talking about this nonsense you know what it is that’s your laptop telling you that to to put the shovel down for me and my laptop turned off right soon is like bro put down the shovel it’s over in a deeper hole put it down it’s over it’s over you sitt here talking about that’s one guy nobody on the go wa a minute K it’s the it’s the MVP you might want to account for that guy would you listen to me he’s the finals MVP you might will be able to stop the [ __ ] bulls huh including Draymond Draymond will be out the game [ __ ] with rman he will be out the game he will be suspended [ __ ] with rman they both will be back and forth he won rman wasn’t dirty yes he was no he wasn’t yes he he he he was not Rick was trying to hurt you he was trying to hurt you he wasn’t trying to hurt you no it was psychological with [ __ ] but but he still have Draymond but he was still dirty he was still dirty he was still dirty he was passionate and he was smart he was not dirty yes he was I love rman I loveis I watch it too he was not like them guys bro he pushing pushing Scotty P I’m about to tell you when he was on the B I’m about to tell you look at look after we get done Scotty Pippin is standing right by the out of bounds line his back is to Robin Robin pushes him out of bounds into the cameraman nobody even around like pushes him like that’s not even so I listen listen like he’s not trying to hurt him but he’s dirty that’s all to be a dirty player you have to be trying to hurt people like D no you don’t no you don’t not kick in and everything else Draymond do he would be trying to kill Ren ran probably say weird stuff to him he no James wory talked about how Robin used to put his hands all over like PL bro he do that’s though it’s not you br listen listen to me listen to me I’m making my point that’s a perfect example of how it’s dirty but not trying to hurt you I just gave you another example bro that’s not dirty it’s smart it is it’s a difference between smart and dirty smart it’s psychological game legal is not dirty no it’s not legal it’s just not seeing it I didn’t see the whistles blow did you hear that that what they’re not seeing it that’s L you’re not listening to me bro they literally just said that Rob was one of the most sneakiest players in the NBA that’s what he was known for they were there would be know for you know how you watch football but the flag comes when the initiator or the reactor when does the flag come on that team you have to stop Mike flag usually come when does the flag or technical file usually come with the initiator or with the reactor the reactor that’s why he would always get guys up because he be doing sneaky stuff you don’t even know what the [ __ ] you talking about because Troy Weaver wanted to draft halberton that was an Esty pick you don’t know about I think he’s talking I don’t think he’s talking about this though I think he’s just saying in general I’m just saying in general he didn’t want to pick kill want right he went hbert yeah you don’t know what you’re talking about he went H but um stay in the lower reals we gonna stay up here with the big kids whatever bro don’t do all that don’t do all that don’t do all that come on disrespect stream [ __ ] come on man um I I know I don’t worry about it but no but like we going continue this bro CU you didn’t got me in a whole different thing talking about Golden State will get destroyed by by the Bulls Ron Harper ain’t guard nobody they not Ron Harper I just told you why do what who do we got to guard clay he not guarding clay and guess what he ain’t getting nothing on Clay on the other side he ain’t scoring nothing cuz R Harper at that point was already old you remember uh you can sit down your pH all you want that’s cool I’m G keep talking Ron harber for everybody who’s watching was at the end of his career when they won those championships he had blew out his knee wait no stay over there King NOP no stay over there stay over there stay over there King stay over there you over there over there Ron hoer was at the end of his career when he was playing with Cleveland that’s when he was looked at as the next Jordan but by the time the Bulls got him he was broken down who is he going to guard nobody who is he going to score against nobody nobody there’s your wing L you got two guys in your start lineup who can’t score against 27 golden state you’re done you’re done a poor man can score in this league you’re done you’re done that was seven years ago bro it’s not this league that was seven years ago bro that seven years ago you got two guys in your starting lineup who cannot score the basketball and you think you gonna be go State you losing them in any era you can’t keep up you cannot keep up none of that matters buddy can’t keep up can’t keep up bro none of that matters thank you he was an all NBA Defender har Harper is averaging two points in that series first of all you have one cheerleader in the comments one and I can tell I can tell how old he is just by looking at him here’s the thing here’s the thing King I don’t need anybody I’m talking sexual Paradise y’all alone y’all the only ones that think LeBron is better than Jordan bro stop changing the subject I’m talking you about Ryan Harper he’s averaging two points period nobody Robin averaging two points that’s your card your trump card is Rob Ron Harper that’s what you you have nothing El to say but Ron Harper that’s all you have to say start you’re not stopping you’re not stopping you’re not stopping Jordan you’re not stopping Pippen you’re not stopping Co first of all in a bucket like that anyway who a deuce you’re not listening in this league today stopping Scott Scotty Pippen from scoring he’s not a bucket getter just not you’re not gonna stop Scott he’s not a bucket getter you’re not gonna do it no you I’ll put Clay on Scotty and Klay and Scotty won average 20 you’re gonna put Klay Thompson oh Scot Scotty pipping don’t forget he was an all World Defender what are we talking about they gonna cancel out Scotty Pippen is the all World Defender what are you talking about he not the all World scorer so you don’t need all World defend Kay Thomas what are you talking about name first of all Klay Thomas he’s name like Kay Thomson and second of all no he’s not that’s how that’s how irrelevant he is you’re crazy see now now you sound like you 10 I’m just saying because you talking about him like he’s today not 10 years ago bro you sitting here telling me that Klay Thompson is gonna lock up Scotti pipp and that is no no what I said is he’s gonna keep him under 20 points absolutely yeah Scot what is what is Scotty average for his career what is Scotty’s average for his career we’re not talking about that era we’re talking about this one okay so yeah let’s just say they played in the 2000s or the mid you in this era so don’t need to don’t matter what era they’re not you have two guys and you’re starting five who cannot score in the conversation I don’t care if Jord score 50 you’re still losing what are you talking about you’re still losing and Jordan gotta guard somebody too you’re out of your mind you got three you got two guys in your starting line who can’t score and and your two best scores have to guard somebody else got Jordan Curry and you got guard KD they not A5 you’re not bro you’re way off not aaging 35 game bro off got a guard Steph Curry you got Kevin Durant watch LeBron James them beat Golden State with some of the guys on that team Kevin Durant wasn’t there I’m talking about the Bulls Kevin Durant was there you just said they talking about beating that golden Durant was there I’m telling you the teams that LeBron beat the team that LeBron beat the Golden State Warriors the Bulls would have [ __ ] and demolish you said KD yes this is a different team argument what are you talking about you said KD KD was on that team in 2016 what I’m telling you he wasn’t there you you’re killing yourself what I’m telling the team that LeBron beat 2016 LeBron beat 2016 the Chicago Bulls were destroyed maybe what do you maybe maybe because because we didn’t see it six time championship team stop I don’t care the numbers we didn’t see it we didn’t see it so all I can say is maybe what we did see what we did see is LeBron beat him we didn’t see Jordan play him so we can’t say for sure that he would only somebody who’s biased towards Jordan would definitively say something that we can never see with definely happen dude make sense King respectfully we gonna save this to we actually actually you got three guys who can’t score in your starting lineup Luke lley really that’s what we’re doing you got Luke Longley Ro Dennis Rodman and Ry Harper so your only scores are Michael Jordan and Sky Hipp Andes listen over bro it’s over besides Steph Curry Luke Longley and KD I’m not giving you [ __ ] uh Clay Thompson because they will lock his ass up no they’re not then why didn’t anybody why didn’t anybody ever Michael Jordan anybody ever are you sitting you sitting here telling me Michael Jordan versus [ __ ] Steph Curry this is this is what this is your I’m not what I’m saying is Jordan your argument this is what you’re telling me right let me tell you what my argument is since you’re asking here’s my argument I’m tell you laughing right let me tell you the argument is you got three guys in your start lineup who can’t score right there the two best scores are guarding my two best scores so your two best scorers are not going to go crazy offensively because they’re ignoring so much defense on De effort on defense we just saw Anthony Edward go through that bro that’s what happens in basketball you can’t you can’t conserve your energy argument is that what the [ __ ] you think is gonna happen to Golden State defensively when to talking about you have to deal with Mike okay look put Clay on Mike okay yeah who else you have to deal with Mike you that but listen to me who else who else who else because listen Scot who else would you listen to me just because those other guys didn’t average 20 points a game which some of those other guys in [ __ ] Golden State didn’t does not mean that they would not score the basketball let’s go through the matchups we talked about Jordan Scott okay nobody put Clay on Jordan he ain’t gonna stop him at all we world all Defender I get it he ain’t stopping Jordan who else I put KD on S okay who else who who you I’ll put rman on KD if I got I’m talking about guarding the Bulls I’m saying you put Clay on Jordan fine let and do what he does fine just make him work clay that’s all I asked then okay then what else do you have you got Pippen okay I’ll put KD on piing fine or if you want I put Draymond on pipping now I got my guy KD he ain’t got a guard nobody he can go crazy offensively but both of your guys got a guard they’re tired KDA tired because I got Draymond G Scotty and I got and I got clay ging see that’s the thing my Defenders are just as good as yours in the starting five what defend lley is not a Defender what Defenders I just told you Draymond Green is a defensive player of the year Klay Thompson was a all World Defender he’s a Defender a great he’s a defensive player year against who I’m talking about the Chicago stop it stop stop we just talked about that earlier impact thect he has huh I guarantee you Dre M will be sitting on the bench he’s not starting on the bench so let every time Michael drives to the r it’s gonna be a foul it’s guess what time not last a half every time KD come out Accord to fou or three or even one see this again Kevin Durant doesn’t have to guard anybody miss Point credibility this what I’m talking about the BR sex the delusion the delusion Jordan play Both Sides no Jordan play Both Sides I’m not I’m not I’m not gonna say that at all Jordan I think LeBron and Jordan should both be defensive play of the Year marar won by like one vote when LeBron should have won and marar didn’t even have on first play it was stupid but no Jordan play both sides of the ball all I’m saying at the end of the day when this match ups start to cancel out I still have Kevin Durant who doesn’t have to guard anybody he ain’t gota guard robing he ain’t gota guard longly I’m he’s Lally just watching save it for the show I got graphics and everything ready we gonna save let’s go let’s go okay yeah I’m ready to go I could go for two more hours make sure y’all there all right I gotta show for y’all ass I’m ready we gonna do that all right yeah it’s been two hours here keep talking about this man I feel good I yeah you lucky we done because I was about to get at your head even more oh God about what nothing else to get out my head about about details about details ain’t no detail details I just gave you before you before you cut the conversation and said we talk about it later you think you slick you feel and all later you Ain fooling nobody I got a family I’m not in y’all sexuals y’all I got a wife and two kids boys knocked s about spend some time number one for tonight during this time was making sure that I that I I got better things to do to talk about LeBron James talk about Michael Jordan but but whenever there’s opportunity to to to B to bust your tail when I talk about it I’mma do it that’s why I’m here listen man I’mma just I’mma close the show out with this sometimes I dream that that he will shut up like Mike sometimes I dream that I Le sometimes I dream that I can be like K and get six MVPs on my me see so I can play like a dyke I wna play I want to play like a dyke Hey listen you don’t want to do this for me bro I switch the game up completely on you shout out to Lady Bird Lady Bird said that’s God and Jim I don’t care what Lady Bird said nobody care about Lady Bird right now say that LE you know what they say le Lebron Lebron man [ __ ] LeBron that’s no they don’t no you know what they say I tell you what they say do you know who triple double is I’m not talking about Russell Westbrook what I the original Mr triple double that play with you know what talking about play with Kareem we go with stats again bro that no I’m I’m giving you see you a know I’m going I’m giving you some you L yes yes you literally asked me who said that about Jordan big old there’s no way LeBron that Jordan’s better than LeBron James there’s no way he said come on you kidding me because because the Big O is just as [ __ ] insignificant nobody talks about the Big O no who cares so now you’re assuming that he’s only doing it for clicks stop why the Big O wants to go with a team a guy that’s like him that’s what that’s all that is how you know that King what do you mean see how you do see how you do you look I gotta go man I don’t give me don’t give me no psych bro don’t give me no psychic reading y’all he’s stinky no you don’t know what the hell he thinking bro you don’t like he say about this whole thing listen real quick this hey I I TR your te Grizzly ass listen listen bro listen here we G end it I’m done I’m done we gonna end it with that I’m G end it with that I’mma end it with that I’m I’m I’m G get at you next time though manjo enjoy the show that’s all we care about end of the day I know I won I want know that y’all enjoy the show King was very valant effort this is great man it’s probably the best you done I think best you done best you done for sure good Lord yeah I’ll see you next year in the finals Anthony Anthony [Music] Edwards man all right I’m just I’m messing around yall I’m just fooling I’m just fooling um I honestly think at the end of the day there’s an argument for either one my guy is LeBron I’m not going to ever say definitively is is one guy I’m never gonna do that it’s never it’s too hard to do that it’s just fun conversation but for me my guy is is LBJ for him his guy is uh MJ for others it’s Kobe for others it’s Kar you know what I’m saying like for others it’s gonna be yic 20 years from now it might be Luca 20 years from now you know but I enjoy this I enjoy this sping this does not get old for me I think we just as passionate about both guys no we for sure again and that’s coming from a guy I don’t even like Michael Jordan as a person right that’s the crazy part to me I don’t even like you will you give Bron that will you give braon that off the court off the court that’s where I’m going okay LeBron as a a husband and a family man off the court what he does off the court you know with his school and everything and and akan you know in the actual ghettos you know of Ohio I put him up here Michael Jordan cheater Gambler [ __ ] to his teammates right advantage of my goddamn people with these [ __ ] shoes knowing that they stupid I [ __ ] Michael Jordan he’s the biggest [ __ ] I ever seen in my life I you know I respect that I respect that you don’t don’t mess with him like that but you still you you compartmentalize it off I respect that so it’s like game yeah yeah yeah yeah you can separate it but yeah because like I I give both of them guys credit off the court though would didn’t mean to do it I I don’t think he intentionally meant to help others by doing it but you mentioned it earlier the contracts he the just just the or that he brought to the game the the advertisements that he brought to the game just the vibe that he brought to the game the attraction that he brought to the game he I don’t think he he did that thinking about future guys I just think he did it for himself and it came naturally because he was a very he was a very charismatic guy charismatic guy you know what I’m saying dark skinn pretty boy all that stuff you know what I’m saying so like he he had it and he just took advantage of it and he he did help Generations but I think LeBron had a like he had a vision to want to help others maybe just because they upbringing didn’t have nothing coming came from the bricks yeah he he had right right and that’s probably the difference if Jordan came from you know came from the hood maybe be a different story you know what I’m saying who knows like this whole his whole career kept it solid with his wife his whole career you know you talking about somebody I’ve been my my wife for 18 years I for that right bro me too I’ve been weird ass Dwayne Wade [ __ ] I respect yeah he got him on straight nail he got he really has him on a straight nail he stays out of trouble keep his nose like the worst thing you can say about him is the decision and the decision is the decision yeah right I’m not I’m not gonna minimize that because I was you know even though the money did go to charity even with that but like it was it was a spectacle that wasn’t necessary right um but that was that was the only thing you could really say about my thing is with LeBron is more not his um not game it’s more the the prim yeah with look with LeBron it’s not his game it’s not him off the court it’s just for instance the decision being the Primadonna you know some of the way he you know he he does what he does in some of these franchises uh behind the closed doors some of those things I just I can’t get with the flopping and [ __ ] whining at times get to my [ __ ] nerves I can’t lie about that either okay okay not yeah I’m not mad at that I’m not mad at that now here’s what I will say and I think now that we kind of C it back down I think we both good but I will say this you’re right the flopping thing Bri does do Bri does cry a lot more than I like the same way LCA does it’s just it’s what you said bro it’s I don’t think he would be doing that in the 80s in the 90s it’s it’s you be getting teed up back then for talking just from talking that much to the referees you know saying back in the day they ain’t going for that they know about to sit there and listen to you every play okay okay I’ll watch for that they no they weren’t doing that unless you was Jordan they weren doing that so I don’t think LeBron that was a cultural thing now it’s a cultural thing now where everybody cries everybody if they gets the ball still if if a mar player gets the ball stolen from him by somebody who’s not a maret player he’s acting like he’s hurt because he got foued because that’s gonna hurt his brand if he’s not hurt if he didn’t get fou you know what I’m saying like it’s a totally different game now so I don’t think LeBron would have been doing that stuff then I don’t think I think he would have raised in that culture of look we don’t call files right it’s n1’s out here you know what I’m saying like yeah that’s so I just think that part of it like you you mentioned a point a great point about the erys I think that’s part of why it is what it is because think about it early in his career LeBron cry is way more not than he used to right you know what I’m saying because back in even back in the early 2000s they wern’t doing it like that it wasn’t the thing so I think he’s just like well if there that to their advantage I’m I can’t I can’t just have myself at a distance Advantage I got to do whatever I can to get that you know and that just happens to be one of those things unfortunately you know so I I see I see both sides of it though I see both sides of it right I get it yeah I agree yeah so you know yeah agree disagree for a thousand time later on but we gonna be in wheelchairs doing going each other’s head hitting each Otherside the head with our canes bro we hope youall enjoyed the show man um yeah I I hope he does more I hope he does more cause K got that old school Vibe man he not trying to complain to the refs he not try got a righteous reason he actually be getting fou he getting hats bro bro even was people at at games telling me they was hearing hats from the upper deck the upper section hearing hats from way up there yeah you told me that I remember that one time got slapped in the face bro I was ready to scrap yeah yeah and they call it yeah yeah exactly so I ECT I was it’s kind of what we’re saying it’s like that’s an advantage though that he may have to use his Advantage at the expense of it being crying right if if it works it works if they gonna allow it you got you kind of got to because they ain’t gonna call it for you if you you know what I’m saying if you’re not if you’re not on the on their head about it they ain’t gonna have no extra reason to think twice about was that a fou you know what I’m saying like that that puts pressure on them you know how it go you know how it go so yeah man yeah yeah I’m G leave with that yeah I got I a got I ain’t got a little tired now I’m I need some milk bro I didn’t went to work I didn’t did yard work I i’ been in the studio bro man now this was the highlight of my day I got to take you to school again like it man hey another thing I just wanna share with y’all I will be streaming um and it’s not going to be Pistons or or lions I will be streaming from time to time while on the game I will be playing 2K uhy we should get on that every once in a while on my channel man so and I’m also on Twitch already so um okay yeah just also we may be we’re trying to we’re debating now but King and I are thinking about doing NBA finals games yes reactions to the games reactions live reactions to the game so you guys probably know how like there’s House of highlights and stuff on YouTube that you can find an 8 minute 15 minute video we’re TR we’re we’re debating because we don’t want to miss the finals games right you know what I’m saying but but we’re thinking it might be some cool content for everybody if we kind of just watch the games live and just kind of give youall a reaction with us on screen to watching the game so y’all let us know what y’all think I’ll create a poll on our YouTube and just see what y’all think about that if not you know we maybe we’ll look at something different but I think that’d be pretty cool to kind of just uh kind of just try cuz uh I love watching those breakdowns I don’t like missing finals games until they’re over cuz you got to stay with me your phone but you know so we going have to really be on it bro like we going have to shut down all our notifications all that yeah because it’s going to be tough everybody gonna be in our ears yes it’s gonna be tough you know how I go so we’ll try that we’ll try that so real quick so let’s let’s let’s talk let’s talk um Championship or yeah let’s talk finals real quick right math Celtics so who do you who do you have how many games I got the Mavs in six okay I I just think the Celtics uh don’t match up well and I don’t I just don’t trust them okay I don’t trust the Celtics okay okay I ain’t M at that I um had the Celtics in four ah joking bro I got the I’m with you I got the M BET right bet you better bet 10 hats one you no I got I got the Mavs and six as well I I just think they are built to win mentally and physically and I think they have the they have the experience and they have the talent and they got the the matchups I think yeah I think and I think Boston’s too inconsistent they live and die with that three ball and I think they gonna die they G they may have a few blowout wins couple blowout wins but I think they’ll end up with four losses at the end of the day so yeah I think the big is going go they GNA crap all over the Celtics m yeah yeah okay my one of my biggest issues with the c is they never took the time to really really address that issue with the big you didn’t say that yeah you say that not addressing this dude has known to to not be available bro he F like origami bro yes always hurt yeah yeah but when you you paying the money that you paying on that team you know you know yeah yeah so yeah I I feel like Boston is more talented across the board I just feel like Dallas is Mega yeah exactly Mega H yes they’re better Coach they’re better Coach we was just talking about that last time we streamed we was talking about how you can see Jason kid’s imprint on this yep especially with the way the guards are playing right right and they don’t they don’t moula doesn’t seem to have those guys engaged all the time they seem to get bored yeah they seem to get bored they have a 30-point lead they give up a 30-point lead you know what I’m saying they down 30 they come back from 30 like they just they’re just so wildly inconsistent and J kid have them boys he runs a tight ship man yeah you can see he runs the same kind of ship that Rick carow ran when he was coached by Rick carow in Dallas when they beat Miami LeBron it’s the same kind of thing it’s the same kind of vibe that’s why I want CH over here huh that’s why I want chy over here bro okay talk about it talk about it because you know like I said I always as a a head coach either me yeah I like it if my head coach has experience from the college level coming into the league he’s got a rep got has an identity okay but I also like when players that play to the level of a Jason kid or Chanty bip you know being this right I love that for a coach y you know I think Chi being obviously a a Pistons champion knowing what piss and blood looks like knowing what team looks like but also understanding the court the way that he does facts I think that’s perfect man for this team yeah I mean it’s funny I actually talked to I actually had somebody comment a Blazers fan comment on one of our videos talking about potential coaches and they talked about how they weren’t really that impressed with chony I gotta go back and find it I posted in the uh community on our community page for everybody to see but it was interesting what they had to say but even with that I was still give a shot I still give him a shot um just because I know he’s going to be all in I know he’s going to be late hours you know what I’m saying watching film trying to get us back to where we I feel like he would have that initiative to want to do that just because of this is this is where he was is where this is his home yeah you know what I’m saying so it’s like it has to hurt him even from afar watching us lose 28 straight yeah has to hurt him you know what I’m saying you can tell me they ain’t watching every single time you know what I’m saying yeah like it’s as much as we see rip and chy and taan and Ben and she at the game shaking hands and taking pictures and all that you got to know they back at him on they like man this team is nothing like how they don’t play nothing like how we used to play man this we fall from we fallowing from Grace man what I’m sure because they have a group chat still to this day I’m sure they in their group chat often talking about the things they see and don’t see good and bad ain’t nothing in my mind can tell me they probably a had a conversation with you know even Ben taan all of them guys said you know what eventually we all should end up on this Pistons team that’ be dope bro that would be so dope Rashid with the big man dude man what I know he shouldn’t he should have left Stan Van Gundy again oh my God bro yeah St yeah like this yeah bro I okay King should I should I go into my my my Boston Golden State bit real quick and and we ended with that yeah I know I’ve said it before but I gotta say it again and y’ I don’t I don’t dislike Jason and by the way nice picture of the Raptor see the point St I like that I rock with you um yeah Jason Tatum I don’t dislike him when he came to League I really was high on him he came in with Josh Jackson Remember that the same the same year they all came in together I think dear and FOX also that same season yeah same draft I was high on him then it’s just I feel like he’s kind of leveled out I don’t feel like he’s really grown he came in hot right he Easter Conference Finals in his first second year dunking on’ Brian you know I mean bumping him up bumping getting in his face let me say this let me let you finish I just want to say this yeah he doesn’t have the Mamba in him right right that’s where I was going and you beat me to it that’s what I was gonna say so we always talk about Kobe we just talk about Koby for the last half hour about how good he was and all that go debates all that stuff Jason Tatum will never be in a go debate that’s okay but stop trying to beat Kobe bro stop wearing the purple arm guard every game look tacky that green you got on stop bro it stop you playing for the Ral team at it you know see why you’re at it like stop bro so I just he’s a wildly talented Pro Player I don’t I don’t think the talent gap between him and Luca is that big talent-wise talent wise but up here when I watched Jason Tatum against Golden State and I saw that Jaylen Brown was the best player in that series and I saw the series is up for grabs where he could have took it and he didn’t and you saw Steph the second Jason Tatum did not take it Steph Curry took it but Steph Curry knew this is time to take over the series so that for me until I see that from him until I see him go and take it instead of backing into a win or getting bailed out by one of your French Allstar teammates I don’t want to hear it it listen prime example Jason tayum would never do what Luca just did last night thank you thank you Luca said enough with the [ __ ] and I’m about to take the air out of this building right now yes over yes Jason Tatum just will not do that bro he’s just not broke like that you know what it is it’s what a lot of people like for me Tatum doesn’t have that Tatum is nice he’s too nice yeah he has to be fueled to want to go at your head he has to be upset to want to go at your head he isn’t already coming into the game angry at you like Kobe was like Jordan was even bra had to learn that you know what I’m saying Bron had to learn like to me Tatum is taking longer than LeBron did to learn that though like he he hasn’t quite gotten it yet you know what I’m saying like he’s so instead of being like for instance for you Dragon Ball fans in here Luca is more like Luca and you know is more like a a a jiren type of guy but Tatum is more like a Gohan type of dud Gohan I was just about to say Gohan I was just about to say Gohan gotta push him there right right right well said that’s a perfect example bro you gotta get in Tatum’s face for him to be like oh for real you gota you have to activate Tatum Kobe activated himself Jordan activated himself even now LeBron activates himself yic activates himself luuka activates himself Tatum don’t and I think until he learns how to do it like you know players used to make up stuff that wasn’t even real about their opponents y Jordan used to make up he was psychotic he would make up stuff about Clyde Drexler like he took my girl yeah it’s crazy stuff you know what I’m saying like it’ll take against Robinson go ahead one word with some of them guys that you just mentioned you say one thing you or or feel like you doing something like oh okay all right I got something for you yeah yeah it would get them going they knew how to psych themselves right right J Tatum man just and not even just that even like even if he wasn’t the killer to where he wanted to initiate it right I want you to I want you to meet it when it comes to you like for example um Jayden Hardy game before last against Min you already know where I’m going against Minnesota he went to the basket and and uh I think I think he drove past Ant-Man and had a nice scoop layup after that he got in his face as he backs up and anman was like okay like really for real bro really okay he said give me the ball give me give me give me a screen came down time out out immediately and he looked at him and said yeah yeah yeah young BL yeah he literally like walked him down to his own [ __ ] so like even if Tatum doesn’t initiate it bro just meet it when it comes to you meet it and then go above when it comes to you right the way that an Ant-Man would you know what I’m saying the way that a Jordan or a Kobe or n LeBron would just do that he hasn’t done that yet it’s like what we said you know when it comes to our young guys here when we talked about with uh Kade we want you to go out there and say I want to kill you right from the tip of the game to the end the end to kill you can’t stop me you you you the scum of the Earth when the game is over you’re the most solid dude ever yeah I love you brother this that and the third yeah on the court bro we are enemies we are Jacob and Esau on the yeah but see the thing the level the level of psychosis is what made a lot of guys better because you had guys that that you just mentioned exactly they they compartmentalize and turn it right off but then you have other guys like Jordan again I gotta like come on y’all I’m not saying Jordan isn’t like top one or two I’m not saying like I’m Jordan is Jordan man come on I’m not I’m not doing that so like with Jordan he would do what you said but he would flip it he would be nice to you before he would go out to eat with you before the game we best friends he pay for the bill everything once the game started bro you he he treating you like you didn’t killed his dog like you didn’t stole his girl Co no Kobe and cul in the Olympics I just yeah a good one that’s a good one Paul Gasol right yeah yeah yeah I mean they are brother brothers yeah yeah for sure first play of the game Kobe put Gasol on the floor yeah stepped over him and walked away yeah you know what crazy the funny thing before it happened he went and he went to LeBron y he went to dwade he went to KD he went to melow went to CP3 hey y’all I’m about to run through this mother that’s what he just said they L him like bro what it’s not that serious yes it is yes it is he’s like yes it is watch me and from that moment when they like this dude really just ran through his own teammate Dam from that that sets the standard that’s that’s the leadership type of quality that he had that was such a blessing and a curse for a lot of players depending on who you were it’s just Raw it’s raw like I don’t care anything else about winning nothing nothing and so that’s that’s what Kobe would to your point that’s a great example bro cuz like you said they were they were was like the funny thing was P was confused but then he laughed cuz he know he know he already know what Kobe on yeah he already knew what he was on so it wasn’t even a surprise that’s just who Kobe was so yeah good that was a great good one that was a good uh good example for show so until JT does that right I’m not confused I’m not I’m not convinced that he’s going to ever win a title until that happens no um Kyrie against the Boston poring Dallas who you think want to kill their woo wow um yeah I was gonna say I was gonna say Luca Luca versus porzingis who was who because I’m looking at Luca having a chip on his shoulder for porzingis leaving that’s what I was thinking so let’s let’s said between I was I probably say Kyrie and Boston I probably say Kyrie and Boston just because Kyrie has had so much more to deal with after that he hates so he them fans they hate him he hate them yeah like for for earlier today they had videos with him giving fans the finger the whole yeah yeah go like yeah yeah yeah yeah but it’s so I but to be honest with you bro and I’mma end it with this I think for Kyrie the world is bigger than Boston for him yeah because he hasn’t just had to deal with Boston right he’s had to deal with he’s had to deal with the Nets right he had to deal with all the anti-semitic stuff right he had to deal with Stephen they telling him to retire right it’s bigger than Boston bro he going at everybody he going at the world right now he literally is going at the world right like I see it he’s he even watching that game last night it wasn’t just about putting him away it was about making a statement yeah he he’s one of those we talked about Kobe and Jordan Kyrie’s one of those he’s he one of them he one of them he’s one of them bro and that’s why they gonna beat Boston y he’s one of them yeah it’s time hey bro it’s time to do some Hood R time bro right right right right right it’s time bro yeah yeah and like like they were saying like Stan Van Gundy did say some good things uh stupid it’s like they was taking turns man you know sat down it’s like it’s like okay you go get them you go get them you listen in this series yeah I don’t think you gonna see that they that ass right and that’s the thing I’m not saying it can’t work it just hasn’t proven to yet yeah you know what I’m saying like with LeBron and D that’s not a perfect fit right at all you know what I’m saying but they that’s why they lost the first year they needed time to make that work yeah you know what I’m saying so like in in in Tatum and J Jaylen Brown their games overlap more than the D way and LeBron James does so it’s even harder for them your turnning out it’s the same thing with the Clippers the two forwards best two players they game overl it’s the same thing you’re like negating both of their talents cuz you’re not getting two different things like a Jamal Murray in the yic right you’re getting two of the thing really really good but it okay if I shut this down we can win so yeah until until until they prove to me bro I’m not convinced at all I’m just not be still got 12 million a year uh blence cheers he’s at isn’t he getting 12 million year I think 12 a year yeah yeah I think he’s getting 12 a year I think he’s got three more years in this deal yeah uh car was rooting for um I I would say Dallas I would say Dallas I don’t I don’t he wouldn’t have any reason to go for Boston are you saying because he got because he got the boot from Dallas maybe that’s why um yes you got yeah 464 so 16 a year yeah thank you Marvin 16 year for that was for this question for bluring Tears shout out to you from uh from New York so yeah we gonna call it we gonna call it y’all on that not we went way longer than my wife probably gonna kill me because she been she she messing with the boys well they probably sleep by now but you said what said I didn’t got a phone call or two oh you didn’t got a call she she yeah she like she she leave me alone until I go and until I go in there you know what I’m saying like she won’t mess with me when I’m streaming but because she know because she understand what I’m doing but like after this she like oh so two hours for real we doing oh got you got you got you you’re right he did play for okay but that was like 30 years ago but who knows if I’m him I’ll probably go for the team I won with that’s crazy that he never got a chance to coach over there because he got a Boston style type of coaching yeah he does that’s weird he does you’re right you’re right he does hard hard no tough noosed he’s got a offensive team now but he’s a defensive coach yeah that’s what I’m saying offensive coach yeah you’re right you’re right just demeanor alone is just Boston it is it’s very uh who is an old coach before udoka uh he’s he’s in the front office now Brad Stevens he’s very Brad Stevens he very Brad Stevens he for sure yeah all right all right man we gonna call tonight y’all I’m about to pass out um great stream bro peruse got to get our our customary LeBron Jordan debate in so that’s always fun yeah um and we’ll look to see what happens with Tran next week hopefully you get a press conference you know um and if we have any more information for y’all Y already know we G to let y’all know about it um yeah whatever we can share we G to do that so appreciate y’all rocking with us per you anything else you want to get out the way K uh no that’s it man just want to say uh you know I hope the best for Troy Weaver yeah yeah you know uh shout out to the fam over there shout out to the fam best wishes best wishes best wishes and we will see y’all on Tuesday night so with that Detroit ver everybody

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15 Comments

  1. Blackstone will serve just fine as TL knows what he wants. Monty figures to be here, I would assume if they were cutting ties with Weaver they would have done Monty at the same time to just do a one fell swoop. I’m surprised they would keep Monty, he was a train wreck.

  2. @Everythingking brudda don't sleep on these young dogs in the draft, clingann is a nice big plus others. we do agree with trading the pick for a star like booker or ingram. We need to bring Cade a young star

  3. My impression was that there were to many cooks n the kitchen. Given that, I don’t like them adding another layer with a president. Just fire the gm and replace him. Don’t add a layer and then fire and add another gm. That’s my problem with situation.

  4. King your man Deuce Stephen A Jr makes good points and he’s a Great Debater, but without proper research of OLD SCHOOL NBA HISTORY he’s sounding like a uninformed millennial, Bron being number two that’s even debatable lol, either way it’s still a great achievement but he’s most definitely not the GOAT ✌🏽

  5. I agree w King I could not stand Kobe at all let alone anything Lakers! I didn't respect Kobes game til after he retired! Only thing I'll respect about LeBron is his ability to play at a high level in every season of his career, his longevity is what his legacy will be to me! LeBron is and always will be trash to me!

  6. Deuce is a younger NBA fan. All his favorite players are in the league today lol. Cant talk about the past if you didn't watch them play.

  7. Let me get this right Gore hired Langdon to fire Weaver . Team not going anywhere because of that why didn't he just fire Weaver ? Even with this news he's not fired the just part ways nonsense . Then the fool hired a Duke player to run the pistons smh .

  8. Deuces cooked on you king you getting old man 😂😂😂😂 deuce is 100% right bout back court players point guard shooting guard kyrie and Luka is that bro I AINT NEVER SINCE A JOE D highlights and I literally played for his AAU TEAM AND KNOW COACH JOE PERSONALLY 🤷🏾‍♂️

  9. King you shouldn’t debate Deuce. He destroyed you to the point that you were reduced to using profanity. Leave that young brother alone.

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