Jimmy Butler is Flirting in LA? McLovin on the Celtics, & More | Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Jimmy Butler is Flirting in LA? McLovin on the Celtics, & More | Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Juju do me the favor please of putting this up as a poll question through two games would you be willing to vote Trailblazers general manager Joe Cronin as Finals MVP what do you think everybody Drew holiday I remember many many years ago him and Lou Williams remember them eight seeds Plucky 76ers you can’t beat LeBron with Drew holiday Drew holiday is going to have another championship after am alhassen our basketball expert at metal Arch media called him a corpse after he considered retirement he did after he considered retirement out loud his agent was very mad about this out loud because Jimmy Butler ruined what he thought was going to be the end of his career oh I went with Giannis Milwaukee ouch that hurt I’m thinking about retiring that hurt so much and now he’s got a four-year extension and Brad Stevens and Joe Cronin can win executive of the year because Drew holiday has no turnovers in this series and has the numbers you’d think you’d get from Tatum I think you’re headed somewhere but just real quick like we just mentioned it casually is there anything that the Miami Heat are saying about what Jimmy Butler did on the national broadcast like his his feeble attempt at public leverage with a 22 looks good in purple and gold anything there well while uh a a public show of support for Cameron Brink and just being near the attention of the moment uh of course he’s going to negotiate some in social media because why wouldn’t you uh Jimmy Butler has had a star turn it’s kind of weird right if you look at the last 20 years of Heat basketball stugots because uh the rules all changed about what the organization thought about the player being charge in charge when Shaq got here right and so Shaq teaches Dwayne and what they learn is we’ll be organiz ational bedfellows and Dwayne will bring LeBron and teach him yes try and fit in and then LeBron learns after three years not for me anymore I don’t want to do it that way anymore I want to be in charge of all the things I don’t I think I can do it on my own and then seals his legacy by going to Cleveland and doing it again uh but the Heat organization has been dealing for a long time with a tension between how it is the star wants to be treated in basketball deserves to be treated in basketball and here in town Pat Riley’s the star and it’s been something that has been dirty at the end with Shaq because he left here unhappy when it broke apart but Shaq brought with him his own PR people his own teams he showed up for things when he wanted to Giant star bigger than the organization it becomes a wrestling match Dwayne Wade 20 years but at the end gets hurt is a pillar for 20 years of I’ll do what you want I’ll do what you want he was ugly with LeBron as well well well when you leave and you’re a giant star and you want to break free of of the of the shackles of whatever Tom Brady Broke Free of under bellich well no man like I’m a star do you do you see that when people come to Miami Bad Boys opens huge this weekend Will Smith total comeback tour has been promoting the hell out of it bad boys when they come to Miami who do they get it’s not Pat Riley it’s Jimmy Butler in the Hulu ads in the commercial dating the starlets uh being very good at being in front of people as a star riding a horse through Miami be odd if Riley was doing that though no but I’m just you’re correct but you understand what I’m saying when you talk about organization versus player now at the end of this the social media age whatever Jimmy Butler is at 35 in terms of having pop cultural collateral that sport breeds Stars the stars are worth $78 billion in in streaming money because uh the because that sport since magic and bird has done a great job of making Stars Pat Riley coached magic coached against bird tries to hold the star accountable this star shows up at media day in costumes this star misses games and I come to learn oh Jimmy Butler makes $500 to $600,000 a game that he’s missing the reason that I’m coming to learn that is because they’re noticing in the Heat organization that it costs half a million bucks to get your Diva on the stage I think this star is different though as opposed to Shaq and LeBron where they came here the heat needed those guys those guys were stars before they got here and would have been Stars wherever it is they he needed Jimmy Butler when they got him they really needed him no I understand that whether it’s true or not the heat could make a claim hey Jimmy you were not this kind of star until you got here we helped turned you into this kind of star bich can make the same claim on Brady true and then Brady goes somewhere else and look at how I mean look at the top of sports and ego you think Jimmy Butler doesn’t think he’d be here beating these Celtics beating these Celtics you don’t think Jimmy Butler thinks that if he was healthy you don’t think the Celtics would have had an actual test by now if Jimmy Butler had been healthy well that’s at the heart of Pat Riley taking a shot at him and his postseason wrapup presser and then it was a quiet couple of weeks and you thought like okay well maybe there’s not much there Jimmy took the criticism and stride but this was Jimmy’s first attempt to like okay I heard your shot at me I’m going to go and do something in the public space to make you feel some pressure it’s going to be fun and funny and the dollars are what they are and his age is what it is and I’m guessing that whatever they want to do with him they’ve already decided what it is I don’t know that I have not asked the questions but I’m assuming that whatever it is that they have as a plan for Jimmy Butler and Tyler hero is already in motion because what you saw when when I said Boston closed Miami’s window as we know it you can’t come back with Tyler herro like you’ve got to start trading some of these pieces you got to see if haime hakz and Duncan Robinson if you’re indeed going forth with Jimmy Butler if it’s not going to be okay we’re GNA do Donovan Mitchell now and some more some other permutation see if we get a couple of years younger at that position you do have a you brought up a very interesting point because you have to ask yourself that question question has Boston shut the window on everyone because it feels like this thing is just getting started everybody okay but everybody got hurt I’m saying they shut the window just because over the last five years at the top of the conference it’s been these two teams I I dared to say with Jason Tatum uh that his most memorable play as a Celtic is getting blocked at The Rim by bam adabo people quibble with that they say had a game seven dunk against LeBron uh point stands the top of the sport has been Jimmy Butler and Jason Tatum for five years or the top of the Eastern Conference and Miami did something I I remind you uh when the Knicks ended the heat incarnation of Zo and everybody else it was an eight beating a one and it was over it was like Ah that’s it the Celtics stats said Marcus Smart you got to get out of here this isn’t good enough this isn’t going to beat Jimmy Butler as an eight seat is a one seat you got to get out of here Jaylen Brown and Tatum have to grow up who are we going to get a veteran Drew holiday not going to be at all like Marcus Smart not going to be a lot of dumb three-pointers he’s going to be somebody who wins a game to because he’s been there before porzingis is a three or a four are you kidding me okay we’re GNA change the way that everyone gets stretched because the 7 foot4 guy can hit the hit the shot from 30 feet the heat made them when you consider Danny a and Pat Riley fighting in the 80s with the Celtics and the and the Lakers then fighting when Danny a was an executive gets replaced by Brad Stevens Pat riy is telling his spokes go to say out loud in public to Danny Age Boston off Danny age because hates Boston like that for the last five years toats it’s been these two teams and I don’t think as we sit here because we all know Jimmy Butler aged he’s he’s obviously aging that the Celtics got great because Jimmy Butler made them he forced them to fighting at the top of the conference they had to change everything Marcus smt with his green hair do you know how much that City love that dude love that dude Charlotte’s still whimpering around here about that’s the heart and soul of our team and the moment they get rid of him was so sad to see him go as a Heat fan right so sad so sad to see him you’re going to play point guard that’s what you’re going to do no talk yourself into this guy being super important forever please and I think I hope it seems as though and I have faith in that Pat got the message like okay you can only endorse so many off seasons of guys taking your lunch money and the Boston Celtics are in this position in large part due to how aggressive they were you were in Andrew holiday but you burned that bridge with Portland they took advantage you weren’t able to get Damen Lillard the Milwaukee Bucks were able to get Damen Lillard so I do hope that Pat Riley decides okay we’re not we’re not going to stand Pat anymore we’re going to make an aggressive move the heat did think they were going to be able to get in on holiday after after lard collab that’s reflective of the overall bravado that they approach that entire Portland experience with I think that’s Mike’s problem though is Riley used to get in on all these guys and used to get all these guys and he no longer is not not to rehash it but you were just going down the Drew Holiday Point and I’m like I I I can’t think of Drew holiday without another Miami Heat strikeout and then Jimmy just opens the door to oh actually maybe it’s not all p maybe I wasn’t just being quiet and that meant we agreed I just didn’t have a microphone near my mouth at the time oh yeah uh Stant you did say in this part to me it’s always interesting right we we really enjoyed it when it was belich and Brady who’s responsible for whose success but when you say Jimmy Butler was never this before he got to Miami and that Jimmy Butler should be grateful for that and I counter with Jimmy Butler and his agent saying do you know the mess you guys were in with Dion Waiters and Hassan wh side and what was going to be the end of Riley’s career when you didn’t have assets and I was the free agent who chose you bailed you out for the last five years like it’s been a a it’s been a marriage of mutual benefits that has really been great but third place isn’t good enough fourth place isn’t good enough being the fourth best of your era doesn’t get Remembered in any way this is nothing like the Patriots and Tom Brady like I’m sorry Jimmy Butler is not Tom and like the heat are not this dominant Force at the top of the East they went on a miraculous run last off or last postseason and that finals was not close I don’t think anyone thought they were going to win the champion he’s been two finals and we all question whether or not he could be the best guy in a team that goes to the NBA finals I’m just comparing it to LeBron and Shaq when they got here like Jimmy needed the heat the heat needed Jimmy I understand that LeBron and Shaq did not need the heat Billy does bring up a good point it’s a lot closer to Mor of Levy and Jim Kelly fair enough I’m saying we just love this stuff and it’s Miami’s version so of course nothing’s going to compare to Brady and bich but you’ve got two two stars struggling over the power on Leverage and money when they’re both trying to decide who gets credit for the other and meanwhile the best one is SPO the whole lot right it’s SPO yeah who’s putting who’s working with all the pieces all the pieces of Jimmy’s personality and all the pieces of roster construction that Pat is given him suppose the guy that’s made everything work it’s going to be an explosion here correct at the end if he leaves it’s not going to be quiet when does he ever left the place peacefully be quiet I’ve been embarrassed for Mike Ryan stomping around the offices here just screaming at people who don’t want to hear or feel his hot breath on their face we can’t let burh halter get away with this oh God uh he’s just breathing hot fumes all over everyone Billy have you caught any of this shrapnel of him just yelling at everybody about bur halter not yet that’s a soccer person right yeah yeah what’s burh halter up to Greg burh halter who is manag 70 games I think for the US Men’s National Team this is not a new experiment after having a really ugly situation play out in front of everybody’s eyes last World Cup with Gio Raina his contract runs out and you think okay well that’s that that’s the end of the Greg berhalter experience he’s brought back after all that drama and Greg berhalter and the US Men’s National Team lose to Colombia 5 to one in a friendly Columbia looked good Mike Colombia has been I will give Columbia Credit they they’re unbeaten in 22 straight uh Colombia from a talent perspective is not as good as the the United States of America is and that may come as a surprise you this was the first starting 11 ever in US men’s soccer history where you feel that a starting 11 from all of Europe’s top five leagues it it was celebrated as look at us we finally arrived this is such talent and Columbia is still counting on jamus Rodriguez there is a talent disparity there and to lose 5-1 is a huge embarrassment but it was wholly predictable if you were following this now you guys know I am not a Greg burh halter guy you’ve been yelling about bur halter burh halter for several years and in my lifetime the United States has never been more talented than Colombia that’s a that’s a recent phenomenon and very recent yeah I I just don’t like the way that Greg berhalter approaches the game I I think it’s egotistical I think that it doesn’t play into what has worked for the US in the past generally I think when you have an international program you really have to uh apply the principles of Defense you don’t have these guys in for a long time in your Camp to try to replicate some some great ball uh uh ball possession he he tries to display an attacking mindset that of like Barcelona like will control the Midfield and that’s great if you’re beating the likes of Jamaica 7-0 but you’re not you hate him I hate him I do just get to it I do I do I do hate Greg berhalter and this is a Mis opportunity and the reason why I I’m making such a stink about Greg berhalter in in in in the bullpen area is because we need to hold this program accountable we’re we’re hosting the World Cup in 2026 we have as I just identified a really talented roster if it’s going to happen for us it needs to happen when we’re host nation if you want a really deep memorable run that can make this a true sport that is following they’re ruining it all they’re Throwing It All Away you’re you wanted momentum you’ve wanted this you but the problem is I want it and you don’t you don’t even want to talk about it you want to ignore it you just want to tune in 26 and expect results you just want to walk around and say you hate BH this is a practice game this is a practice game and they have another practice okay but you’re going to be like the exactly right what are you talking about they’re going into the Copa America later this month and what’s that it is now they are invited to participating in a Copa America which is usually essentially a World Cup but just for South America invite only and now it is combined between con conaf and South America and the United States is going to go into that first game against Bolivia and if you haven’t been watching Bolivia I don’t blame you but Bolivia can control possession you don’t want to go into that game against UDA wanting a result what all right I’m boring you all you’re all just going to complain no I was distracted by your UD I thought that was aggressive I thought that was aggressively Hispanic no no you’re not boring me I was getting some air traffic control that’s saying that Tony is now feeling like he’s in position to give us some hot Panthers information just hold on a second well we’re just we’re we don’t deserve 2026 if we’re not going to get fired up about losing 5 to one why would you throw a party and like be the first one to leave it because that’s what’s going to happen at that World Cup Mike it’s like you at the election I I’ll I’ll get the energy one when we get there no I but I want to win cop America I want to be competitive I want to we don’t have qualifying to get ready all right you’re you’re saying Mourinho was right there it’s going to take a minute because you’re saying I want it for Copa America and Billy’s asking what’s that yeah yeah that old song and dance it’s the South American World Cup that we’re now part of Tony is out on the streets he is uh filled with all sorts of panthers Euphoria because the Florida Panthers are in the Stanley Cup Final Tony what’s the latest Dan lest is the city is buzzing people were talking Panthers as I was walking by they are super excited we’re trying to find uh some people to talk on the mic you watch the Panthers game you didn’t got a breath that guy did you watch the Panthers game last night didn’t okay ask about C America suitcase what a game right sry I don’t speak English that’s in English that’s English I think you have to specify Florida Panthers that’s it there talking about pit the the the city is a blaze right now with Panthers fandom I shouldn’t need to say Florida Panthers that’ll confuse non-english speakers two these two coming behind you let’s see what that oh they just made right they made a right turn to avoid you actively avoid you Panthers no okay Tom Copa Stanley ask him about Greg Balter yeah uh you know what I bet you bet he’ get an assortment of soccer opinions if he started asking questions and in Bickle ask about Columbia winning 5-1 we’ll definitely get something Pan game this weekend Pan game you know what Tony switch it up ask somebody about colia yesterday Columbia winning yeah oh we do have some some Coast Guard guys over here let’s see if uh we could be a Florida Panthers fan for the service exactly thank them ask him about the Army Navy game approach slowly approach the Bears want to talk about the chamia bow hey guys excuse me uh you guys excited for the Panthers yeah the game this weekend huh a lot of blank faces No watch pan a bunch of fakers okay I appreciate I appr there was there was one guy in mix in the Ty TF Tony thank you for all your coverage stay out there the goal before the end of the Stanley Cup Final is to find a single person who cares go to Saw Grass tomorrow go to the cafe go to the Rainforest Cafe over the weekend no there’s no guarantee there either ask about Columbia 51 Tony thank you appreciate the report um we will find somebody St got somebody who cares in downtown Miami uh Mike it’s not that we don’t care about bur halter and it’s not that we don’t bur halter for me it is I don’t care it is yeah it is it’s how you guys don’t care about it it’s not that it’s it’s no you want when have we ever been the show that fires the coach I mean it’s 70 matches in and you’re losing 5-1 to to Columbia when you’re more talented speak for yourself I check I checked in on the game I thought there playing Colorado this is just a coach I don’t care about you read the screen wrong I was like this is a friendly against MLS what’s happening here I’m actually using game time because I’m going to watch the US play Brazil in in Orlando it’ll probably be there’s a big Brazilian uh community in in Orlando I’m not imagining like a a super strong us crowd there uh and I’m hoping people hold Greg burh halter accountable so what I did was I did my part I downloaded the game time I signed up for an account and I Ed promo code Dan for $20 off my first purchase what I love so much about the game time app is the all-in pricing guys there’s an easy tab right there top right you hit all-in pricing so you see exactly what you need to budget for I love that term Supply last minute tickets I love The Flash Deals lowest price guaranteed if you find a better price in the secondary Market game time will match it up to 110% great customer service that is promo code d game time mcloven is going to be on here in a little bit stugots uh we are going to talk to him because last time we talked to him uh the heat were beating up the Celtics and now he gets to gloat a little bit so we will get to that in a in a moment and we’re going to get into Stephen A Smith and Bob Meyers going back and forth at each other can you guys just put in the corner right now though Stephen A Smith walking into the arena in his lavender suit uh because so good he does uh yes he carries himself as if he’s the universe’s biggest star and uh he is draped in a lavender suit and he is coming in everyone had the same observation it seems like he’s ready to play and he is he is ready to play in his mid-50s because he is very comfortable with being a sports Superstar and Bob Meyers has accused him of something and Stephen A Smith uh says no Bob Meers says we tear teams apart more than we ever have maybe on purpose maybe that guy down there and he pointed at Stephen A Smith and Stephen A Smith said not me not me that’s social media not me your thoughts there stugots we have Imaging for this first do you get annoyed every time Dan levard pontificates about the sports media industry well too bad [Applause] mother what he’s going to say it’s time for sports media talk to I was asking you though oh I don’t know why it is that I don’t know why Bob Meers is getting on Stephen A Smith or getting on anyone about breaking up teams that’s what we do no one really wants to talk about the winners we want to talk about the losers we want to talk about the teams that can’t get it done you want to see Jason Tatum do something it’s not good enough that Jason Tatum just wins four straight games and does so averaging 20 points a game not good enough for you you want to see Jason Tatum have to do something late in the game on the road in a big spot because you feel like that will validate Jason Tatum as a player we don’t focus on the positives we never have we never will we’re the sports media we fire coaches we break up teams and Stephen A Smith if you’re not going to take that as some sort of badge I am because that’s what we do and we do it better than anyone I don’t want to hear about from Bob Meers what do I care what Bob Meers has to say about anything I mean he is the executive you were just we were just talking about giving the executive of the year in the finals MVP to a bunch of Executives everybody’s a fantasy league owner now everybody wants to be the architect on building the next thing Bob Meyers built the thing that his owner said was light years ahead of BU so well he’s on ESPN now I mean he’s on their pregame he’s on their postgame he’s taking shots at Stephen A Smith fir stepen A Smith built the SPN he left on okay wow what wow still cont Boomer you know all those good okay stug is just you know he’s he’s very engaged today can you imagine Cen a denying that he tears teams down though well I thought stat would just like to talk about how Stephen A walks into the arena because there you do understand there’s never been anything like this in the history of sports media it’s never existed before you do understand that right how is he limping more than Luca the other star I want wanted to get to this weekend stug because um this was fairly amazing to watch if a pop culture moment unlike any other Will Smith slaps Chris Rock creates a million think pieces and ruins a night for Serena Williams and Venus Williams That was supposed to be about Hollywood being woker after George Floyd and finally rewarding some people who are diverse Will Smith ruined his own night ruined ruined his night ruined the night for the Williams family though that was there to celebrate now keep in mind St guys the William sisters are as unique a stories ever been told in sports to come from the same womb and dominate the sports Out of Compton and uh their father overran the country club and they were racial pioneers and Will Smith ends up on that night soiling it by slapping Chris Rock if you had told me what’s the way back marketing team because you have to understand Will Smith’s dugat is as big a movie star as there’s been eight consecutive hundred million doll movies nobody’s done that before like whatever you want to say about movie stardom this guy was it at making giant giant hits I think I read 15 number one box office hits It’s absurd we don’t even make movie stars like this anymore and as the box office suffers Fury Road breaks at 30 million if you had told me the marketing machine machine behind Will Smith and man it’s a machine St guys the Press he was doing last week was kind of like sein felian for Netflix and that Pop-Tart movie where you’re like Will Smith’s everywhere telling you I’m back now but I’m not talking about that I’m I’m coming back and I’m not I’m not going to be I experienced it awkwardly because like we’re we’re trying to move past it and pretend like it didn’t happen and then that that whole thing was just so bizarre I can’t really get all of it all of it super weird and would he make his way back and how do you make it back like this is a guy I remember Bill Simmons wrote a great piece many years ago talking about like the formula to How Will Smith became a movie star do it with gadgets and aliens and giant spiders and whatever and you could see the choices that he made to go from The Uncommon story of rapper television star biggest movie star in the world how do you come back from an incident where we’re all like you’ve been playing makeb for 30 years we feel like we know you we like you what the what was that like where did that come from movie star we thought we buy your movies we we think we know you where did that come from why would you do that to Chris Rock and on the story arc too like his career was kind of he had that awful bright movie on Netflix where they were like crime solving Orcs And he was done this was a Redemption story this was a crowning moment on a career that had several twists and turns if you told me the fourth Bad Boys hastily put together like they’ve been filming that in Miami and they were rushing that into theaters that that would open at 60 million and people are talking about it lifting the box office I wouldn’t have believed you and I wonder I really 60 million on the first day like I think it pulled in100 million I’m shocked by this I ask you again back to Chris Cody’s point of uh when Zion Williamson’s shoe breaks is Nike happy about it because any publicity is good publicity it ain’t terrible these days to be Infamous too like I don’t know if that’s just bad boys Nostalgia because I guess that speaks to some people it does to me but I was out after the second one like they’re getting more and more ridiculous whoa you were like this second one’s not good enough for me to watch another one the second one no after the second one I was like I didn’t bother with the third one because I saw what people like they can’t bad boys can’t get better than this that’s right that was your logic it’s been perfected uh I wouldn’t have chosen this as the path the the marketing path to how you reinvent Will Smith how you get him back into well it’s playing the hits is it not you’re going back to one of your Staples you’re doing it again for the fourth time and people I think it’s Nostalgia I think that’s exactly what it is your advice would that have been your advice as opposed to why wouldn’t you do it with uh with uh Men In Black like what you there are other there are other things he could have done it with he tried like his career was on ice because he was doing sequel subit in black and nobody was really responding I think this is one of the really surprising box off his stories but we’re like counting International tallies here to get to 100 like it didn’t really do 100 and movie ticket price are like $25 a ticket now so like with International did over a hundred though yeah International when have we ever celebrated International we’ve always done like us box offices like a hundred whatever million I mean you’re a huge Fast and Furious fan like that like it is really built on its international box office success yeah but I’m just saying this wasn’t like a huge hundred million opening weekend in reality the way we normally do it tickets are a lot more expensive and we’re combining worldwide now but what I’m saying is if Stallone went through the same thing that Will Smith went through I would say yeah go do a Rocky movie go do a Rambo movie and so Will Smith got back to his roots and people are enjoying it that’s what saved him it’s what saved his career yeah I I think there’s more to it I don’t I don’t know if it’s the slap I’m not really sure how this this shuck we’ve always been doing worldwide box office by the way but he had been doing that let me go back to Rocky let me go back to these franchises and people were out on him you you have to understand stugots whether you want to parse the numbers or not we talked last last week about movie theaters are dying 60 million in theaters whether it’s a lot less than it used to be is still a giant number for something that’s not anything other than Will Smith’s comeback Nostalgia tour like that’s it’s not one of when when Fury Road which has a I would assume Fury Road’s budget is larger much larger than whatever it is that bad boys budget is you just have to pay for your stars and two months of filming in Miami yeah but it was $100 million budget and they made it back in week one this wasn’t a small picture I thought it was a huge Gamble and you mentioned their marketing strategy found it kind of sad like they’re going to throw first pitch in Marlin’s game and they thought they were they were really amplifying Miami and I was like how’s this going to resonate all of this is awkward and did it ever miss that one by a million miles he’s back my point was to all of you would you if you’re the marketing team you have the economy around this person is giant however he gets back into the game is carefully crafted with him not speaking a word during the publicity about everything about the thing that people want to talk to how can Martin Lawrence afford that house on a cop salary it’s an important question I got a theory is that they’re drug cops and they never turn in the right amount of drugs so how he yeah so Mike FL his theory if anyone was wondering it’s good that we bring him to on the show I I like that when he used to have a Twitter thread of every movie he watched for the year he would tweet about it give his review but I don’t think he done the follow well he lost control of his account for a little bit someone took it over and then he had to make a a parody account of his own he added like a letter and then he got regained control it’s a whole tell us more about Fuentes please you don’t follow him letter box I don’t think you want for to watch hit please please I mean in Billy’s defense we were stuck in the mud there I mean it felt like it he was just trying to drag us out no that is the great to was myself fancy myself a tow truck you know what I mean you call me I pull I connect my winch yes I’m in the quicksand and what does is he just starts throwing me a rhino Qui you got to stay you got to stay calm we went over this last week wait forine quentes here oh he rided Logan from 2017 four and a half oh wow out of what five that’s good wow Billy sa it wouldn’t have been my advice to Will Smith make another bad Bo look at this guy with the editing grin he is so happy to be a Celtics fan right now look at him he uh he’s drinking from his jar his arrogant jar of pickles there whatever it is that he that he’s drinking uh Christopher mince PL uh the last time we talked to you mcloven thank you for being on with us uh we’re making fun of you because the heat were great and the Celtics were less great and now here you are uh eating grin speaking on your behalf so go ahead uh you’re feeling smug today I mean we feel great man we feel incredible we’re the most hated team for no reason and we’re just we’re just uh we’re ripping it up right now and it feels fantastic and happy oneyear anniversary to all you guys just want to say uh thank you that’s very kind of you so not for no reason it is yeah so so why do you feel like you’re hated unfairly uh you could tell me someone said not for no reason fill me in tell me why uh because you stroll into rooms thinking that you guys are hot despite only winning one championship in high definition in fact since I’ve been been alive you’ve only won one title yet I got to hear about some 18th Banner because you won about 13 of them when the game wasn’t even integrated I love it I love it I can I can feel the hatred through the zoom link I love congratulations on being on the precipice of catching the Houston Rockets in terms of title prestige in my lifetime happy for you Mike nothing’s him today I mean it just it just feels like you know I feel I want to know who you guys all picked to win the finals by the way because I feel like a lot of people picked the Mavs over the Celtics which is pretty crazy because we won 64 games and we just kind of swept our way through the playoffs and everyone’s like you got a Mickey Mouse run you got a Mickey Mouse run you’re finally going to face a team that’s going to challenge you excuse my language guys I’m pretty that’s okay no let it Let It Fly that’s fine and now LC now we and now we fa the team with two incredible closers and we’re just we’re doing our job man we’re doing our job and and we’re doing yeah lca’s upper body is wrapped like Randy Johnson after throwing a complete game what do you another excuse it’s another excuse when we saw the questionable tag yesterday we’re like here we go here we go here it comes you got to admit though like you you guys have had lot lots of lottery tickets over the years you kept trotting out this core and you finally got a really nice flat track you got a lot of luck for this run every team’s best player being hurt Luca’s out there which is a change of pace I guess from the the rest of the run but it’s not even like he’s not hurt yeah I mean he’s dropping 30 points and 11 assists and and 11 rebounds man’s hethy the man’s healthy he’s playing incredible Kyrie he’s feels like he’s got to step it up a little bit I think role players play better at home so the next two games for him are going to be really good um but like you know they’re fully healthy it’s we’re doing our job man look at him just he just SM look at him it’s just it it’s it’s no fun when when Boston gets to be smart I hit him with the best thing that I got like the SP wasn’t even integrated today he wasn’t even expecting there’s no I do remember last year last year when I came on we had just lost game seven to the Heat and that was pretty brutal uh so it feels good to be back here in a winning environment uh what do you think of the fact because St and I and and stots I feel like you misrepresented me earlier in the show as as you are want to do um I’m just saying that from a consumer customer perspective it’s unsatisfying to not watch this play out with close games where I can watch Jason Tatum be tested and what I’d prefer just for for just because I want greatness to be great at the top of the I like watching sports and like watching the best be the best and what I said was I agree with you I’d like to see that as well but Boston fans they don’t care they just want to get to four and hold off the trophy correct and so I understand why Boston would enjoy this and why everyone else would find it a little unsatisfying I no I I get that I mean obviously I think there’s even Parts when I’m watching game one or something where I’m checking my phone and I’m like why are you doing this you’ve waited all year for your team to win the championship and it is not it’s it’s not the most thrilling I get it I would like when I’m watching any other series that my team is not in you want it to be a one-point game with 30 seconds left obviously so I get that but yeah I mean like what am I supposed to say oh I wish Tatum was shooting six for 21 and we were losing by 10 and we had to make a comeback like no this is this is perfect for us but I listen man I I get it and it’s going to be a bummer when we sweep well I I said this actually stat uh during the regular season because Boston was overwhelming teams all winning half their games always up by 20 points yeah they had 50 games in which they had a 17-point lead this year I mean that is that is correct half their games they led by more than 20 it’s a crazy stat and in other circumstances I feel like what I was saying would have been obvious to everybody which is that this Celtics team is better than the one that won the championship that it’s been the the margins it’s winning by in the modern age because the three-point shot is worth more this team has actually been better than that one but it’s hard to argue when that team had Ray Allen and Garnett and Paul Pierce you’re you’re thinking of Hall of Famers and this one you’re asking hey Tatum can you be the second best player on this team statistically or not it’s confusing yeah yeah um God it’s really hard to be up 20 in a series and want to like dissect Tatum not shooting perfectly you know like it’s like he’s not doing well but everybody else is picking up the Flack and we have like he’s dropping 12 assists and we shot what six of what felt like six of 40 from three whatever six of 32 if we make four more the guy’s going to have like 18 assists you know what I mean like he dished and found a lot of open threes that were missed so the fact that he’s not shooting well he’s facilitating in every other Avenue so kind of feels like why are we picking this apart why am I picking this apart when we’re winning it’s just not the right have to right no but this is why have you wondered aloud why is Derrick Jones Jr playing 40 minutes well I mean this is what it comes down to is like our our 3 to six is just leagues better than their 3 to six and it’s showing it like we have drew holiday dropping 26 game one you’re oneus you know going for 20 and 20 minutes game three it could be Derek white for 35 game four could be Al Horford for 83es like we are we are blessed that at any given night one guy can go for 30 it’s it’s truly incredible I will tell you this though I do believe that the reason that we’re talking about things like that with Tatum is because the stories on the court aren’t interesting enough it’s hard to talk about a team winning uninteresting games in uninteresting ways like that last night the Celtics shot horribly from three not Dan Dan it’s not their fault it’s uninteresting the Celtics are the most interesting thing on the court Kyrie Irving is going six of 19 he’s shopping 14 points like if he’s going for 30 with Luca scoring 30 last night’s a nailbiter you know what I mean like we’re doing our job we’re locking them down we’re blocking shots stealing it we’re making the game interesting you’re asking the wrong questions here dude and you’re blaming the wrong team you’re so right about this BL we’re lashing out we’re lashing out I know and I’m not taking the bait dude I’m not doing this you’re not Jason kidding me here dude you’re not playing mental games I don’t like how strong you’ve got gotten the last time you were here you were weak and you were broken that’s what a 20 series lead will do and we tried to poke and prod you and you were stoic and you pretended like it didn’t hurt but we were pouring salt on a festering wound now you come in here and I cannot bother you you are poised you laugh in my face but am I wrong like we’re we’re crushing it we’re entertaining as heck to watch Chris stop scor for 20 points in 20 minutes was that not thrilling no no it was I will ask do you believe that the country at large would acknowledge that this team is better than the one that won the championship we got to win the ship first you can’t even actually have that debate I know I’m on a debate show worst guy to have on a debate show but I can’t debate that until we win the championship classic debate this is not a debate show TR I’m simply trying to Badger you until you get until you get in rain so big talk us right now look at that Championship glow I hate it he we have to win we have to win first before we can have that conversation you know what I mean why why why can’t we have it right now cuz the M what if the Mavs go and win the next four and then you and then I get the email that’s like Dan wants you back on the show Dan wants you we will I’ll tell tell you why I’ll tell you why because Jason kid just said that if Luca wins the championship he’ll be the best M ever and I’m like he’s still the best M ever the next three or four games don’t change that right now this Celtics season yes if porzingis gets hurt and something happens you can lose the championship I’m telling you now like I told you during the regular season this team is better than that one yeah yeah I mean do do all of you believe that Luca is the best Maverick right now no Tom Cruz no yeah it’s about Rings like how can you just throw Dirk’s whole catalog and whole career out the window because Luka’s already because L Luka’s already better than him the next four games don’t change that if Jason Tatum gets hurt and Luca wins the championship or doesn’t win the championship I already think he’s better than Dirk I don’t need in a good old debate there so so okay so let’s say Luca never wins a championship in his career are you gonna say okay so who’s the most important Maverick of all time then uh Dirk is the most important and he’s the best Maverick of all time and Dan knows that Tom Cruz is the best Maverick of all time JJ B is a close second are you going to stick around for when we talk dck Prescot no not a champ okay get me get me out of here all right uh anything else on your way out uh we will have you on again to gloat if indeed you don’t lose the next four games uh but you say it’s not time for that debate and I would just tell you the way that they won and mastered in the Bon game the the Boston Celtics this year have been more overwhelming than the Celtics were when they won the championship to got the Celtics took more games to win that Championship they were losing so much during that postseason the one time they won the title this team hasn’t lost they’ve they’ve dwarfed everybody they’ve been dominant were going against Kobe right that yeah we beat Kobe in 08 so like that was that was a very tough Lakers team who did we who did we beat on the way to that champion it was all seven game series and and forgive me for not remembering who it was but they took longer to win the title than anybody because it was tense the whole way this hasn’t been tense at all mclovin’s not been scared one time about anything well that’s what you’re mad about that he hasn’t been scared and he doesn’t care he’s perfectly fine he’s out of the patio he’s in the mean the PAC series was the Pacer series was super entertaining was it not even though we won in four games each of those G most of those games came down to the last second that was entertaining more entertaining than this Mavericks enjoy it you only get two more games of dismissively calling him mcloven before you have to call him NBA champion mcloven I’m there you go I’m not trying to dismiss him he’s here and he’s feeling like a champion already and and giving us the platitude of it’s too early to talk about any of that stuff look at him as he sips sips vigorously I know how this goes man I I brag about it and then we lose the next four and then there’s just headlines everywhere right I’ve had this before kind headline CNN when when did that happen to you when when did that happen championship chances M love it celebrates too early I’ll tell you what it happened to me was I was doing an interview and someone goes would you ever do a super bad 2 I was like no we’re not going to touch that and then someone was like what about an all female super bad and I was like sure that sounds fun next day Christopher Plus super bad two female version all over and it was just like it’s a nightmare it’s a nightmare that’s what I’m trying to bait you into but you’re you’re drinking your fancy Hollywood we’re trying to Jason kid you we’re trying to get you to acknowledge that jayen brown is the best player on the team to disrupt it who who’s the best player who’s the best uh uh who is the best player uh any given day it’s a different one any given day this the veteran experience that we were warned against I have a question have we heard anything about tingus pengus’s injury yet nothing it look it could be a hyper extension right okay he he looks fine the birds there’s peaceful cartoon birds in the back really Serenity you’re surrounded by Serenity where are you what Bliss what Bliss have you arrived at lovely Woodland Hills California baby deep in the valley let me listen let’s listen to it for a second they all shut up like the CBS Morning Show oh it’s great just sit around and and here’s 30 seconds I have to stay calm cuz your guys’s energy is so stressful I mean I got to surround myself it’s Sunday morning okay I’m sorry I believe that’s still a great show even though it’s only for 80 year olds yes where everyone is quiet for 30 seconds and we’ll just listen to a stream it’s a Sunday Morning Show we will listen to Christopher mince plus PL uh drinking uh his Hollywood drink and sitting among the the birds hey what an honor to hear you say my full name get his a pleasure what a pleasure that’s how you get me back on is keep Ying mcloven at me then I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll come back anytime I’m sorry it is good man I I don’t mean it dismissively can we nobody does nobody does it’s all good sign of love you know what I mean anyone say CMP uh my parents maybe yeah how do you feel about that because I think a lot of people default to McLovin in that they don’t want to get your name wrong because it’s a bit of a mouthful no no totally so I so you know I know it’s a I can give you a real answer is when it’s people on the street when it’s fans it’s really nice and really endearing when it’s people that I’ve worked with or been in professional settings it’s a little it’s a little well last time I was on here we were talking about that reality show that I was on that Mars Show and stars don’t be dismissive it was great the showrunner himself was like where’s mcloven where’s MCL in the headset and I was like oh you’re my boss like you’re my contemporary here it’s a little off-putting in that situation but when it’s when it’s like out in regular life people who don’t know me it’s it’s really sweet I mean they love the movie so it’s it’s a sign of respect I guess you know uh thank you for handling that with Grace I am sitting in front of you deeply ashamed and it means you have won Celtic you have won in every way you came here we tried to wreck your day and you wrecked ours yes we tried to wreck your day and you’re a graceful winner you’re charming and you’re two days or two games away from the championship your first title since the invention of smart speakers um thank you for being on with us we do appreciate uh the time uh you are uh 34 years old uh next week so let me see here if I can give you a happy birthday here the way that I would if I could see this correctly and happy birthday to him I don’t care good luck uh that is Stephen A I hope you enjoyed him walking into the arena the other day in a lavender suit um I love it he’s my Fashion Icon uh thank you sir we appreciate it appreciate it guys thank you I was actually guilty of thinking that you celebrated your birthday last week because it got aggregated a bunch that mclovin’s fake ID turned 40 last week so I imagine some people hit him up with happy birthday he’s gone yeah he does he doesn’t even care for us to finish a sentence I just feel regret though I got to be honest I that’s not your style he was nice there but I don’t feel like he loves the mcloven stuff well clearly clearly I aired he was very nice about it though he’s also turning 35 next week that’s a fun what I didn’t say that 34 34 she says4 just a dollar okay thank you stug you’re always there for me God I hate that they’re winning this sucks so bad I don’t know why this is exactly but for some reason I play a certain word word association with Jason worth where there really is only one thing that I think about when I think of Jason worth and it’s the same thing that I think about when I think of Robin Lopez and it is what I associate with them is do you realize how scary it would be to be out in the wilderness and out from behind a tree pops just you don’t know anything else someone who looks like Jason WTH someone who looks like Robin Lopez giant with blowing hair and for some reason it’s the association I make imagine my surprise this weekend when I learned that Jason worth H used his incredible $180 million contract that was a Thing Once Upon a Time he was good though uh yeah but not that good not not worth it know oh oh hey hey that’s pretty good not worth I don’t think he goes down as one of the bad contracts though he got paid a lot but he was a good player he’s not two weeks boys let’s just say that okay fair enough but 180 million I remember the only I’m remembering that from memory I don’t even know if that’s right I’m just assuming it’s right because I associate him with those two things popping out in the wilderness and terrifying me and getting a contract that is a contract that I associate the numbers with this man’s name because he got one of those deals before you’re like wait a minute all the salaries are changing now I know it’s gone Otani and everyone else has makes it crazy but once upon a time the contract that Jason worth got that there were so many headlines to G is he worth it because because it was a monster deal for him to now be a horse racing champion when that sport is super expensive and super competitive to get to the top of I can’t believe that he has a horse that won the Belmont it was 7 years $126 million for Jason worth okay so forgive me I was $60 million off but I do associate him with money and now horse racing is super expensive and it’s hard to win and he looks exactly the way that he did in his playing career I’m happy for him we talked to him in Tahoe last year and it’s quite quite frankly a top five interview I’ve ever had in my career I Lov our time with him he’s truly bizarre yeah and I saw that video I was like I had no idea you were doing this I’m so happy for you he’s in the Washington Nationals Ring of Honor he lived up to it well but the the contract he signed was to leave there was it not it was to go to Philadelphia was it not or he just no the other way around he had the years in Philly National signed them seven years 126 and then Anthony randone would get twice that for leaving the Nationals and going to the Anaheim Angels because the salaries in that sport exploded so much that Hal steinbrener now says I can’t afford to be the owner of the Yankees should be ashamed of himself I mean I’m serious so T Jersey’s in a Yankee game I wanted to ask you guys something here before we we get out of here because I’m watching on television here one of the things stat that I’ve really enjoyed which is Paul Pierce becoming a full professional wrestling troll he is right now on Undisputed wearing a giant chain was this what he was wearing last night at the game as well uh he is celebrating his Celtics fandom uh it hurts stats locally to watch this team the Boston Celtics that we’ve been able to mock because their history is so ancient the one Championship that they won got Paul Pierce a career in media Kendrick Perkins a career in media Kevin Garnett uh working uncut gems Doc Rivers job after job after job because they dained to win one for Boston and that still means something Paul Pierce has gone uh full profession professional wrestling heel as a sports media member he’s wearing sunglasses and a giant chain sitting between kesan Johnson and the end of skip bis’s career it’s not skipped just the end of his career it’s not it’s not I’m sorry I mean how much longer can it possibly be going it’s pushing 80 a he well but it’s not it’s I don’t mean to laugh I’m trying to say in character there but it it has to be look look you saw how Stephen A strutted into the stadium you you saw saw come on and Skip broke apart from that and now look at what he’s doing with Paul Pierce this looks fun in his defense not when only 50,000 people are watching Jason worth never had 100 RBI in a season not worth it stat you already made that joke it was but never had 100 RBI got a good reaction the first time I mean he uh he wasn’t good enough to Merit that contract but he was a great interview according to Mike Ryan that concludes our horse racing coverage

As the Celtics are 2 wins away from a championship, Jimmy Butler is publicly flirting with “purple and gold” so Mike and Dan discuss the credit distribution in the Heat’s success between Butler and Pat Riley as we head toward an interesting off-season in Miami. Does ANYONE outside of Mike Ryan care about Greg Berhalter? Anyone? Anyone…? And we send Tony back down to the streets to continue his electric conversations with the people of Miami about the Florida Panthers success. Then, the Will Smith Comeback Tour has been boosted by the success of Bad Boys 4, a box office smash. Plus, Christopher Mintz-Plasse joins the show, and unlike last year, he is full of swaggering confidence and unfazed by our mental games as his Celtics continue to rampage the NBA on their quest for a title. Also, Dan definitely insults Christopher toward the end of this interview, but he is too nice to call Dan out. It’s the Jayson Show as we move from Jayson Tatum over to Jayson Werth and his huge win in the world of horse racing.

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