He would be a really nice fit for us actually. I like his combo guard size, could be a good POA defender for us. We could target a wing defender or a backup forward with the later pick. I’d be very happy if he fell to us at 18
GuessableSevens
Loved Collier’s upside all season, but by the end I think it was just clear that he’s too high risk to bust. The only two things he does well are use his burst to put some paint pressure on the defense and find nice passes. Problem is that his burst-related athleticism is totally one dimensional; he doesn’t have great vertical athleticism or strong finishing ability, and he is very turnover prone and too undersized to become an elite passer.
That’s just his strengths lol the list of weaknesses is very long. One of my fav prospects this year but sadly I’m low on him at this point.
vaalbarag
From what I’ve seen I’m not convinced of his fit in Darko’s style of offense… I think a pass-first, high-percentage shooting PG would be the preference. The finishing at the rim is nice, but I’d feel better if more of that was coming through off-ball situations. But I could see the argument for him being BPA (and certainly amongst PGs) when the Raptors pick. I wonder if Carrington is more their preferred archetype, with more length and passing (though with very mixed opinions on his 3-point shooting upside).
Based on mocks right now, it does seem like there’s a good potential of a solid wing being available at #31 so it makes some sense to go PG or C with this pick. I still would rather go C here and try and solve backup PG with a free agent signing or trade, but the organization has liked drafting and developing backup PGs so I could see them going that route.
SDK04
Aye look, I’ll copypaste an older comment of mine here to explain why we *should not* draft this guy.
Collier *does not fit us at all, or our biggest needs.* “Upside” isn’t something to talk about when we’re not even a team that fits his development as a player and he’s completely redundant in what he does. Especially considering we already have a SF who slashes and forces his way to the basket well (RJ) and a SG who already shoots very well and is developing a slashing skillset (Gradey). I’d rather have an “upside” player who actually fits the team than one we’re only drafting because “maybe he could be a superstar one day, who cares if he’s bad on 3 as a point guard, bad on defense and messes with the team’s spacing?”. I get the appeal of a slashing PG built like a tank, but we’re *just not the team for that guy.* “Upside” isn’t a point to make when he won’t be contributing enough on what we need him to do (3s, defense, better spacing, better passing) for him to develop properly.
JediRaptor2018
Collier is one of the few players in this draft who actually has the talent and skills to be an All-Star type of player. He is strong, athletic, can get to his spots with ease. Can be a Donovan Mitchell-type of player.
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He would be a really nice fit for us actually. I like his combo guard size, could be a good POA defender for us. We could target a wing defender or a backup forward with the later pick. I’d be very happy if he fell to us at 18
Loved Collier’s upside all season, but by the end I think it was just clear that he’s too high risk to bust. The only two things he does well are use his burst to put some paint pressure on the defense and find nice passes. Problem is that his burst-related athleticism is totally one dimensional; he doesn’t have great vertical athleticism or strong finishing ability, and he is very turnover prone and too undersized to become an elite passer.
That’s just his strengths lol the list of weaknesses is very long. One of my fav prospects this year but sadly I’m low on him at this point.
From what I’ve seen I’m not convinced of his fit in Darko’s style of offense… I think a pass-first, high-percentage shooting PG would be the preference. The finishing at the rim is nice, but I’d feel better if more of that was coming through off-ball situations. But I could see the argument for him being BPA (and certainly amongst PGs) when the Raptors pick. I wonder if Carrington is more their preferred archetype, with more length and passing (though with very mixed opinions on his 3-point shooting upside).
Based on mocks right now, it does seem like there’s a good potential of a solid wing being available at #31 so it makes some sense to go PG or C with this pick. I still would rather go C here and try and solve backup PG with a free agent signing or trade, but the organization has liked drafting and developing backup PGs so I could see them going that route.
Aye look, I’ll copypaste an older comment of mine here to explain why we *should not* draft this guy.
Collier *does not fit us at all, or our biggest needs.* “Upside” isn’t something to talk about when we’re not even a team that fits his development as a player and he’s completely redundant in what he does. Especially considering we already have a SF who slashes and forces his way to the basket well (RJ) and a SG who already shoots very well and is developing a slashing skillset (Gradey). I’d rather have an “upside” player who actually fits the team than one we’re only drafting because “maybe he could be a superstar one day, who cares if he’s bad on 3 as a point guard, bad on defense and messes with the team’s spacing?”. I get the appeal of a slashing PG built like a tank, but we’re *just not the team for that guy.* “Upside” isn’t a point to make when he won’t be contributing enough on what we need him to do (3s, defense, better spacing, better passing) for him to develop properly.
Collier is one of the few players in this draft who actually has the talent and skills to be an All-Star type of player. He is strong, athletic, can get to his spots with ease. Can be a Donovan Mitchell-type of player.
I like him but the raps will never draft him