Detroit Pistons Sign Tobias Harris | The Valenti Show with Rico
so NBA free agency look it’s it’s yes I told you for six months Tobias Harris that’s that’s what you’re going to get stuck with part of it was serious and part of it was just me breaking Stones well here he is Tobi Harris what are you doing at my door two at 52 um I think the thing that is a little more concerning to me is a lot of what langon has done so far and it is early it doesn’t sync up with the max extension you have given Kate cunning nope so here’s the way I want to approach the Pistons free agency two ways Rico one what move has to get made to make you feel like okay we got a good one with trajer LC but question number two is this will Kade Cunningham still be a piston by the end of this extension the move I need to see is somehow when this is all said and done free agent well I was hoping for a trade a sign in trade type of thing that the Pistons would end up with just some garbage on the team but they would have three first round selections okay so you would need to see like for instance they have about 26 million left it’s not enough to acquire that level um the warriors with Wiggins that’s what B I’m sorry my but see that’s what bothers me because Tobias Harris was on the clearance rack he was still going to be there tomorrow the week after the week after that you didn’t have to make this move right now you could be a little more aggressive part of three team deals as people are trying to get under the cap to sign folks that you know like the Warriors and and the Mavs are having problems trying to get this Klay Thompson contract well maybe if you jumped in there you could be that equalizing Force that all of a sudden now those two teams are shipping you picks along with some players that you don’t care about but you got the picks Tobias wasn’t going anywhere and yet you signed him right now that doesn’t make any sense to answer your second question no I don’t think so because I think Kade is going to get tired of this and he’s going to get tired of losing and he’s just going to want to win because he’s going to feel like I’m going to waste the prime of my career in a deadend spot where team with a team that’s just not winning that’s how I see this that you’re you’re not really putting the pieces around him I know oh it’s it’s patient but and maybe I’m making too much out of this but the fact that he wasn’t even there for for uh tron’s press conference that said a lot to me you’re the leader of this team you would think you would be sitting front row didn’t bother to show up I guess he was busy that day 2485 39 9797 look I’m I’m just asking guys I mean the Cunningham thing I’m not mad about it I told you I wasn’t going to freak out if you did it but I’m with Rico on this okay let let’s say you get through this year and maybe you start to get through year two you know at what point if this thing doesn’t and again it’s not on Trent langon he can’t snap his fingers and create a 60- win team but I I can just tell you if if I were around Cade I’d be looking hey you lock in the rookie extension cuz no one’s ever turned it down this is life-changing money well beyond your first contract in the NBA you in essence are being handed a quarter of a billion dollars you take it but once you do it the parking meter starts on player demanding trade that’s not us being bad guys about it that’s us as people who watch the NBA how many times have we seen the story play out so I’m asking you a what do you need to see next I’m with you Rico I I can’t tell pist fans that hey Tran got three second round picks this off season and that’s a success it’s not no need first rounders right I mean Tyrese Maxi yeah he’s living it up he’s got the extension Plus he’s on a team that’s going up for a title you got the extension and you’re looking like I don’t see the pieces that are going to help me win 35 games not necessarily even make the playoffs but can we at least win 21 more games than we did last year yeah look and listen I don’t want them signing players in free agency that’s never what it’s been about I wanted them to assume deals and and create a war chest I want to be that third team in those deals so that the superstars could go to the teams that they really want to go to but they just couldn’t make the money fit hey here let us help you out here we’ll do this you send us your first round pick you send us two first round picks and we’ll we’ll we’ll we’ll consummate this deal for you look and there’s plenty of players guys who’ve had more success and still demand it out I mean Donovan Mitchell wanted out of Utah bad Utah was a playoff team he was the captain he was the lead dog still wanted out you know I get scared that okay I mean I love the Ron Holland selection I understand what they’re trying to do I’m fine taking this off season to acquire dead bodies for picks but taro’s point they haven’t really done it right cuz when you took Holland Mike okay I I get it not going for the quick fix fine this way can work as well but I’m not seeing the next step to that and that’s why I’m like okay wait so you took Tobias Harris in free agency how is this helping you how is this part of your master plan I think next year the only thing you’d be able to do is you play through and when he’s an expiring it has value but believe me I’m not arguing with you I’m with you I wanted them to take a poison pill and get two three first round picks there’s still time and look Lord knows I mean Zack lavine’s dead body is still rotting in Chicago maybe it’s still there but Rico I the Cade thing is more of my focus because right here right now like if I’m being totally fair it will take Ron Holland two years before we really know what we have really know and by that point if this team is still like let’s presume they’re going to be a sub3 win team this year okay by by the next season if you don’t show major Improvement I could absolutely see in the way the sport Works Kade going you know what gu guys I’m out but see the problem is that’s saying that you’re you’re waiting on Holland in order for this team to get good where you have Jaylen Duran you have Ivy you have arur Thompson you you’ve had top picks but you’re saying now we got to wait on Holland not you but yes we have to wait on Holland and that’s going to decide whether K if that’s the case I think dude you might as well just go ahead sign this deal and then put your house up because I I don’t see things happening that quickly 248 539 9797 David ticket tax what do people have to say on the Kade issue and on the uh offseason so far uh someone says the Jazz are shopping marketing can we get him and some picks no for Ivy marketing is a major asset yes I about saying it looks like the that’s the Warriors are going all in for him marking is a dream like a stretch four built in a lab no that that’s no Pistons need to get impactful players they should have went after Brandon Ingram that is Ryan in West Bloomfield okay but again you you want to go after someone whose own team doesn’t want to pay them the Pelicans have his bird rights the Pelicans could offer him a four-year deal they do not want to I don’t know that Brandon Ingram is what you think he is plus he’s another guy who averages roughly 48 to 52 games a season season he’s always hurt and he’s on an alternating pattern of being a good three-point shooter and a terrible one go look at his career numbers but I’m not mad if you bring him in but please don’t turn him into this Superstar yeah but we got the shooting coach that helped him get better agree agree agree but I don’t want to be the team that pays him 220 million I’m not ready to win I mean look two at 52 for Tobias who cares and see but that’s what I’m saying that’s the frustrating thing so yeah you go get Ingram I would have drafted differently I would have done things differently so and then Tobias could be like that okay he’s that third option that you can bring in here I really don’t understand what they’re trying to do yeah I also wanted some more picks too but who knows they’re not doing it great show great show guys Ral spot on I texted his very thought in a couple weeks ago Kade is going to move on he’s wasting away here nothing looks better down the road he’ll want out that is from Dave yeah K’s going to be be handing off those Buffs to somebody else you know what though here you go Redwing fans show up all right Redwing fans have had nothing for 10 years Redwing fans showed up to play today this is a message to the Pistons you don’t have fans Pistons fans are so beaten down you’re right no there aren’t fans there no one is here they’re all dead everyone from 04 died no Mike they’re they’re around there’s nothing to say it’s like you won 14 games and all right time out though you just handed a quarter of a billion dollars to Kate cunning you were forced no you’re not forced there’s always an option you’re in a position now historically Rico where almost no team has ever been there is an option you don’t have to just genu flect and offer the guy you could have tried to trade him so The Conversation Piece really lies there is Kade count Cunningham gonna be here at the end of the deal no I get it Mike but you would have been the first to just say yeah we’re going to give up on this guy so what and I don’t think TR walking in the door wanted to be that that historic GM to say yep we’re going to give up on our star then he’s not a real leader because leaders don’t think that way that I’m I’m not coming at you I’m just saying like I don’t want to hear about I don’t want to be a bad guy no you you’ve walked into the worst situation arguably in professional sports pardon me if I believe the Crayons have to go outside the lines here a different sport but I applaud what Holmes did it was bold it was risky hey Matthew great having you here we’re going to move move on from you 2485 3997 97 hell of a job pist fans David I blame you for the record 97
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Lmao people who only look at numbers disagree with Mike actually watch Tobias play basketball… mid asf🤷🏿♂️
What ppl fail to realize is that Cade has to be the catalyst to the Pistons being good!
Ok Mike, I’ll bite. As long as our 1st belongs to the Knicks for the foreseeable future, it limits what we can do to win now. Star FAs ain’t coming here. Pistons must develop their assets from within and through trades. Taking on dead money for 1st RD picks means taking on culture killers or long term cap killers like Lavine. You really can’t worry about what Cade MIGHT do in 3 years because at this point he’s probably not even a top 50 player. We have young men on this team whose value plummeted because of poor team building and poor coaching. You want first round picks and trade assets? Develop Ivy, Duran, Holland, Ausar, Sasser, and Cade. You want FAs to come here? Build through the draft, develop In house assets, create a team culture, and forge a new identity. The new CBA will provide opportunities for small market teams and limit player empowerment. It also increases the value of those 2nd RD picks we got from Dallas. This is essentially year 1.5 of a new rebuild and that’s the reality of it. Joe Harris, Killian Hays, Monte Morris, Bagley, Wiseman, Burkes, mixed with Monty Williams wasn’t the solution. This team is already improved from last year and the coming trade deadline will be another opportunity to pick up more 1st RD picks and dead money players. Cade will be better this year simply due to roster construction, coaching, and maturity. Can we at least get 90 cents on the dollar be for we fire sale our distressed assets?
Wish you had posted that segment from friday asking if the debate was more embarrassing than the Tigers. That was freaking hilarious.
When do players show up for the new GM’s press conferences? I’m sure it’s been done but it ain’t normal.
Tobias has always been a fraud.
These guys are just awful!!!
And they won’t sign Miles Bridges 🤦🏾♂️
Pistons definitely got better
Debbie downers. Nobody want to hear this shit
Yeah, This is weird. Look at Kelly Oubre's stats on the same team and what he signed for. Head scratcher.
It's to the point that it's interesting what the Pistons are doing, but as a lifelong fan, I'm willing to sign off for a decade because this thing is a complete mess brought to by "CEO mentality" and "Gores Equity Firm".
Y’all all sound so defeated but I understand #DetroitVSeverybody
Just be prepared for another sub 30 win season. What a fn joke.
LOL. Cats worse than Tobias have gotten signed.
This aint a video game. They can still make trades and trade Stewart and along with Cap space then can get a big name.
LOL and if the deals dont come geniuses?
I love the show but they admit they don’t watch the Pistons but then talk like they know everything. Who were they going to put around him?! Realistically? Nobody js coming to Det and they’ve been getting very unlucky in the draft.
You have to give Cade some real NBA talent. Otherwise he's going to continue to turn the ball over and develop bad habits. Harris at least gives a real NBA starter to play 30 minutes a night with. Rico's idea is to accumulate 1st round picks and put a minor league lineup on the court every night. How has that worked the last two years?
You have to win fans back by building up your assets putting a good product to watch and wait for teams to get desperate at trade deadline time it's chess not checkers.
We need to go for Lavine and dip into the luxury tax if that’s how that works
These 2 dont know shit
Can we please get rid of rico
Literally no team is offering 1st rnd picks rn to take on their bad contracts. Warriors waived CP because no one wanted him. They let Klay walk for 2 2nd round picks. Where are these 1st round picks these guys speak of?
Spurs were hot on Tobias. We had to lock him in today.
TL needs to use this final 26mil and those 3 second rounders he acquired to actually catch a first or two…
Rico is ALWAYS Mikes echo when talking Pistons
The fact a texter said there is no future is stupid, we have the most promising young talent we probably ever have had
After seeing the off-season fold, the job Trajan took is no easy. Getting good starting caliber players to sign here is not easy. You guys cannot knock player development and drafting young players becuase weather you like it or not that’s the only way for this team. Accumulating draft picks and hoping our young guys turn into something. Another thing Trajan can’t do is trade away our young players before they reach their potential.
Yall are never happy
If I was Cade I would have signed to
OKC or spurs or Knicks instead of staying with the pistons
I don’t understand how 26×2 is a bad deal with this cap space, especially for a team that needs 3-pt shooters
I’m calling it by summer 2026 or summer 2027 Cade is gonna be out of here if this team doesn’t make the playoffs guy is gonna get so disgruntled being on that trash organization
Definitely can see Cade checking out & wanting out after next season if we don’t at least come close to a potential play in situation for sure. The man is going on his 3rd head coach in a row in a losing situation while in his prime. And I like Cade he’s shown me that he can be our franchise player and lead us, but Trajan has to finish the job off because hardaway jr and Tobias aren’t enough.
Sign miles bridges and Zack Lavigne then we’re contenders. Or just sign miles bridges.
Remember the 2004 pistons? What happened? We won the chip with people nobody wanted.
Happy with Harris the best free agent that want to come here