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Chicago Bulls Will Have To Attach Assets With Zach Lavine To Trade Him | Is It Still Worth It ?



Chicago Bulls Will Have To Attach Assets With Zach Lavine To Trade Him | Is It Still Worth It ?

welcome back into the Wy City Bree Sports Talk daily it’s your boy Pat the designer joined by Jordan JC always in the building appreciate y’all tuning in showing love hit that like button if you have not done so subscribe to the page lead a five star review man y’all know what to do uh let’s keep the conversation going let’s talk about uh the Zack LaVine side of this whole thing because the latest that we’ve heard on the Zack LaVine rumor is that the Bulls may have to attach some other kind of compens ation to move on from Zack LaVine if they want to move on from him ahead of the season this makes this very interesting because to me um we when we hear also Rich Paul coming out trying to defend his client and stuff like that on something that like I don’t think anyone’s saying Rich Paul was like oh my God like this guy’s a good guy he’s done everything the Bulls of ass and nobody was sitting there going like we hate you Z I don’t think I don’t think that conversation was being had there but to me right he’s trying to up the Zack LaVine name he’s trying to churn up okay this is what Zack LaVine is right now in the league and this is what he can go out there and do this is what he can contribute to a team uh when you hear that the Bulls might need to attach some kind of capital when you hear that they might need to attach maybe another player in I dumo or something like that on top of trading away Zack LaVine is it worth it to even move Zack at this point or do you head into the season and if he’s not contributed to winning you just say go sit on the end of the bench man that is a tough call I’m gonna be honest we’ve gotten to the point now where we can’t trade Zach and we’re trying to give up picks uh again what is the direction the direction is trying to cater to the youth movement keeping all of your assets keeping all of your resources like your pick so I mean for me personally no I wouldn’t attach a pick to Zack LaVine at this point if there’s no trade value out there and you know you know teams are asking for more than just him as a player hey you know take some bench you know I I I’m sorry like that that that’s just the direction I’m going in I’m not going to take a step back if we’re trying to move forward with the development of this young coure that’s just that’s not going to happen and you know if I’m if I’m heading a team I think that’s what’s the tough part is right and you there there isn’t a scenario in your mind where you feel like that’s going to happen but we’ve seen that happen right where teams are ready to move on from a player and and the players make it big money and they do one of two things they say hey we’d love you to be around but you sit on the end of that bench and you’re probably not move because we still trying to trade you or you say uh uh um just you getting your money and stay home we saw that happen with John Wall we’ve seen that happened with James Harden and I don’t think that the Bulls are at that point I don’t think that the Bulls are in a bad situation as far as relationship wise with Zack LaVine and the players on the floor or Zack LaVine and well I guess the the head coach in the front office is is kind of a bad situation right now but like to me it at this point if you’re talking about keeping attaching draft Capital attaching uh uh um future picks attaching players that you think can be real players for the youth movement that is supposed to be happening here like if you’re at that point in this I’m kind of with you where it’s like I would almost rather see him come back and you see if it works if it doesn’t work you take him off the floor say we’re gonna move you to a bench row kind of what they did with lar marketing right like hey we going to move to a bench R you kind of at the end you don’t want to get in okay I understand that we’re going to go with the players that we currently have on the court and what that’s going to do again it doesn’t raise the the trade value of Zack LaVine it doesn’t enhance the trade value of Zack LaVine but what it does is show teams that listen the Chicago Bulls are literally done with Zack LaVine and you could probably come in and buy low and if that’s the case right do the Bulls come out losers in that absolutely I’ve told you at the beginning of this thing the Bulls were going to come out losers but you don’t want to slow down what you’re trying to build because you’re sitting here having to force a square peg into a round hole and try and continue to do that you hit it on the head I think that the real reason why this is not going to work out well specifically no matter which direction you go is because Zack lavine’s value I feel like is just going to be where it is like teams have already figured out the type of player that Zack LaVine has been I mean we talked about him being one of the most losing his players right record-wise as far as games are considered you know uh he’s just never been around winning he doesn’t have a winning mentality uh and so teams know that you know so you’re going to have to want to give up more or you’re going to they’re going to request more in a trade and that’s why I think you know we’re just gonna have to take that L if he stays on the team sure he can be a piece we’ve never denied Zach’s Talent right you know I mean on on a good season when he’s healthy like last year I looked up the numbers he averaged 25 points four and a half rebounds 4 point2 assists I mean right that’s that’s something you want on your team that’s that’s pretty good numbers but it’s at the point now where is he somebody that’s going to get in the way of this youth movement or can he contribute to the youth movement still being still a you know in his prime player um or is it just somebody that hey you know what we’re just going to have to you know see what happens at the trade deadline and see I think that’s the part that’s interesting right like it’s I heard some people talking about this as well like you know if Zack LaVine comes back in place he goingon to get his trade value up we know who Zach is yeah what is playing gonna show you that’s different yeah like somebody honestly tell me what what does Zack LaVine playing show you that changes your thought on him as a player Zack LaVine is a player who has scored 50 in multiple games Zack LaVine is a player that can go out there and put up 30 plus whenever he feels like it Zack LaVine is the type of player that can consistently be a 25 and5 255 and five type of guy so what are you going to see that’s going to make you think that Zack LaVine is different I don’t think that him playing raises his trade value I guess like you’ll see it and go oh my goodness he was able to go out there and stay healthy for a certain portion of the season but what is that you I mean like what what does that mean at this point because there’s always going to be the question mark on well can he continue to stay healthy how long can he stay on the court how good is he going to be on the court when he if he’s not healthy right like that I think that’s the part for me where the biggest questions come in around Zack LaVine and why like the bull are really just in a a rock and a hard place yeah like like there there’s there’s no way that I think you look at the Zack LaVine situation and think it was handled right by the front office there’s no way that I think this resolves in a way that comes out favorably for the Chicago Bulls um and I think that if you’re talking about having to attach something like I If you’re getting something of value back right if you’re getting a high draft pick something back and you trade away I dumo and zackly okay I can live with it right if you if you’re getting if you’re trading them to freaking I don’t know Charlotte or something like that and you’re like we’re probably going to be in the top 10 here okay I can deal with that I don’t like it because you had to trade them away just to get them off of the team and you had to attach a piece that could be a long-term piece I I don’t like it but I can deal with that but if you’re talking about trading them away for draft capital and you’re still basically getting nothing back what’s the point in even doing doing that at this point yeah like at this point in his career I think it or at this point in this off season and this is crazy to say because because this is a complete flip of of how I feel about it but I think the smart thing might honestly be if you can’t move him for just him bring him back see how he affects winning in the organization and if he doesn’t you sit him on the bench and you John Wall him but because I don’t think anything’s going to change I don’t think him playing changes anything about his draft capital I I don’t think that you look at him and just go yeah that guy’s yeah he’s going to be more than 255 and five I also don’t think you look at him and go he’s going to be much less than 255 and five yeah yeah my argument my my argument is perhaps his his stock could even go down because let’s just say what happens if we keep him and he plays and now he gets injured again you know you know obviously we wouldn’t want that to happen but I mean that’s the thing is I only see this getting worse in my opinion I don’t see it getting better I even noticed that there was someone in the chat that said that uh you know maybe at the trade down trade deadline a lot of teams sometimes get desperate and you know maybe that could be an angle where you know they need someone like isack line because maybe somebody on their team that was a p of piece went down with injury now you have Zack LaVine come in that’s a three-level score that’s a letic still that can contribute to you know at least putting points on the board um that could be an angle that that’s really the only way I see us coming out with something back you know I would not want to trade iio dumo I’m gonna be honest with you I feel like IO and I mentioned this before is the next coming of maybe like an Alex Caruso you know I believe he’s our best defensive player right now I would not want that with the direction that we’re going on with this team we would have literally no defense on this squad yeah yeah I I could see I can see Alex kuso type of player out by the way we’ve missed a few here over 300 hey 5 H 5 H by H let’s go appreciate y’all tuning in man if you haven’t done so hit that like button subscribe to the page man leave that five star view uh if you’re over on the Twitter side man hit that uh like button but you know likes is crazy on Twitter so hit that retweet Button as well appreciate y’all for tuning in and uh and rocking with us man um I think I think at the end of the day the the thing that is the worst case scenario on this is if you have to bring him back to this team um you would much rather clear the cap space you would much rather not be dealing with having to pay a guy like Zack leine you would much rather be uh in a in a position to basically say okay we we’re able to reset this thing fully and we don’t have any distractions on the team because that is going to be a distraction it will be a Chicago Bulls nightmare if you get to Media day and and Zack cine is still on this team and yeah maybe there is some some hope of of teams who get desperate at the halfway point but again right like I think there are teams out there if we’re being honest who are in free agency that I look at and I’m like well you didn’t get Paul George you didn’t get James Harden LeBron James went back to the Lakers right all the big names are gone minus miles Bridges Tobias Harris like I guess that’s another like Tobias Harris got paid before Zack LaVine got moved yeah that’s like yeah if if you’re if you’re a team that right now feels like you’re a Zack LaVine away and you’re not picking up the phone right now why are you picking up the phone at the trade deadline I just I just don’t see anything changing by him playing 50 games with the Chicago Bulls and then getting moved like all of a sudden everybody’s going to be all in and the problem is on top of that yes he has the contract attached to him but teams don’t view him as a player that’s going to come in right like you’re because you’re assuming if you get desperate it’s because somebody got hurt teams don’t view Zack LaVine as a winning player teams don’t view Zack LaVine as a player that comes in and your winning your wins go the right direction or your culture changes yeah The Bu is a nice score so if somebody’s getting hurt and that’s what you’re banking on why would I trade for Zack LaVine if I got to trade anyway I’m talking trade for some of these teams that probably have assets that are on the decline and again Zack lavine’s not the number one name in that situation you got to think now a half a season is gone by it’s not just Zack LaVine who’s played well now a half a season has gone by and there’s a bunch of players who have played well who will probably be on the trade market and teams will more than likely be trying to call about them before they’re calling about Zack yeah that’s now you got competition yeah that’s a good point yeah yeah lose lose situation I that’s why I said you’re in between a rock and a hard place with this because it’s not like right like I know people just think it’s easy to just oh well it’s it’s you know you just flip the contract people somebody will take them like no the league is telling you we don’t want him just like the Bulls are telling you we don’t want him and whether has to do with the contract whether it has to do with the health whether it has to do with the winning percentage nothing about it puts the Bulls in a position to be able to move off of him without giving up something that they view more valuable than Zack LaVine and if it’s more valuable than Zack LaVine you’re you’re probably in a spot where you probably need that piece on your team yeah in my opinion yeah no I’m I’m with and again ra raen oracle man that’s the reason why and he just talked Pat just talked about the value to me I feel like trading a pick the pick to me is more valuable than Zack LaVine at this point in my opinion like going forward with the youth movement that’s why I wouldn’t trade a pick with him that’s why I would just let him sit on the bench that’s the reason why I wouldn’t wouldn’t take that trade I understand ra raan wants to clear the cap raan raan wants to to clear the cap and it’s very hard to tell a player that makes that much money to go just sit on the bench be You’ be over there um but I just I don’t think there’s a better situation for you if you’re moving on from assets just to get off of the money then you you’ve put yourself in an even worse situation just to get off of the money like it’s not at that point getting off of the money isn’t even the the the it it’s it is beneficial but you’ve probably hampered your team to a point where it’s not going to be as beneficial yeah we we we’ll see man this is uh this a very conundrum this is what we always what happens with man like like I I would have never when I was all in on signing Zack and I was I was fine with signing Zach I said you get him his money you develop some other people with him you put a team together that works with and and I guess right in in this scenario maybe there’s a a uh let’s let’s not pretend like we haven’t seen this as well guy comes back on right not the best terms team starts winning all all of the sudden everything’s fixed yeah I mean like I I I think I think that that that is like if if you come back and Zack LaVine and Giddy and Kobe play well maybe things work themselves out and people feel better about it and you can yeah I mean put yourself in a better spot to maybe move on from Zack line or right it kind of all the the the storyline itself goes away and you you kind of push through and everybody’s Kum by at that point but I just I don’t know man I don’t know at that point wall and Porter took longer to fix the problem we got proof of that I agree with you but um the the Wizards also are probably the only team in the league that has worse management than us but at the same time the Wizards also had nothing else right like I think the Bulls think they have something else I think the Bulls think that they have something with Kobe white I think the Bulls think that they have something with Josh giddy the Wizards basically just say sit down we’re gonna lose and we’re gonna draft the next you and then they haven’t drafted the next him um Rex Smith said I watched Russell Westbrook with a $47 million hit goes straight to the Lakers because LeBron demanded it I mean sure but you also still have to have the cap space to do that like the Lakers have even with LeBron taking a step aside have $13 million unless they go deep into the apron now I guess if you’re at the top of the Western Conference like maybe they do but like even then are you again what it comes down to is are you clamoring for Zack LaVine at the trade deadline or somebody better no I think they would want Demar I I would want somebody better at the trade deadline I would oh at the trade deadline yeah yeah like honestly like it like if if if you’re in that spot I give me somebody better yeah don’t give me Zack LaVine give me somebody that I think is going to come in and actually impact like I said before winning but we’ll see what ends up happening man appreciate you guys tuning in and showing love hit that like button subscribe to the page leave that five star riew y’all know what to do short show today because of the uh the holiday weekend everybody’s out kicking it and stuff like that but just still wanted to get you guys some content out there and you guys rocked with it over 200 on the YouTube side over over on the Twitter side so appreciate you guys rocking with us as always hit that like button if you have not done so subscribe to the page man leave 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24 Comments

  1. Bulls fans livid about giving picks to move lavine (40+ mil). Spurs giving picks to move Graham (2.8m) to help bulls and kings.

  2. Someone will take him at the deadline after the season shakes out,

    And if he’s not happy he can just sit there…… or ask the bulls to void his contract and he can go where ever he wants

  3. Keep this in mind…the Bulls will have moved on from potentially 3 high level players from there team in Caruso, LaVine, and Derozan…and all the team will get in return is Josh Giddey and possibly 1 or 2 second round picks.
    For those 3 high caliber players!!! That’s a FO that doesn’t know how to forecast the landscape of the league they were hired to manage.

  4. I understand you have to get rid of him but to lose assets when u supposed to be rebuilding is crazy AK will be gone in 3 years

  5. Keep it real the Bulls not trying to win honestly just win enough games to stay relevant being the 3 largest market helps them this organization doesn't care about winning

  6. Yeap the pick is more valuable so you gotta use it to move him, better sooner than later for the bulls, they have 19 rookies and 2nd year players they have to vet at the NBA level . they can afford to lose a 1st in the next year or two cause they have a lot of young talent. We dont like giving up picks, but better to fix the issue now than drag it out for the next 4 years..

    They finally have some Power Fowards that play like Power Fowards so regardless of Zach or Debo being in Chicago, the offense and defense are going to be better than the last two years.. Just move them and move on.

  7. Not worth it to attach anything to a Zach trade he is the something and should be enough he's 20 points a game never been in trouble model citizen…we think he's something if the rest of the league he just gotta be something coming off the bench pretty sure he can still get off and get traded by the deadline when reality sets in for other teams

  8. Matter of fact…the price just went up I'm salivating thinking about a angry Zach coming off the bench who checking him second unit? Boston might be able to hold him but he's gonna throw that draft pick away if first unit is half decent. They acting like he worse off then miles Bridges cmon man

  9. In the Apron era, teams can really only have two max guys….
    He has the same value as Bradley Beal. Bulls needed to offload him last off season.

  10. Let's be real here nothing is going to change with lavine so take the L and get him off the books

  11. In my opinion they just need to make Zach happy some how and keep him waisting a pick and get some shitty player isn't worth it

  12. Nooooo šŸ˜‚ You Feed Lavine 30-40 shots this season, get that Top 10 pick, and trade Lavine for 4 1st Rd Picks!!!! Bridges was Out for a Domestic 2years ago. Got so many picks. Fix his value!!!!!?

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