Why Jaden Ivey Should Start For The Pistons
jayen Ivy and Kade Cunningham this is JB biera talking about Donovan Mitchell and daryus Garland with Cleveland he said we always tried to keep one of those guys on the floor start and close games together you always have one of those Dynamic players on the floor music to my ears bro this was absolute music to my ear do you remember just the other day I think on Tuesday when we last streamed everybody was saying and it still might happen but everybody was saying Tim Hardway Jr and Le e going to start and I was saying that I think that the move is to start Kade and Jaden together and slide Jaden to point guard when Kate sits down remember we talked about that yep y like it seems like that’s what’s happening it seems like that’s what JB is thinking I think that three guard lineup is the move bro and you have either Beasley or Hardway getting those other shooting guard minutes I just think that allows Jaden to play off the ball that’s exactly what he mentioned in his presser and let him attack when K goes to the bench and then have Beasley and Hardway Jr into the game at that point as the shooting guard to me that’s the only way you can really get Jaden close to 30 minutes per game get him reps consistently and he has kind of make up for lost time because of last season so I want him to get as many reps as possible so if you have him as a backup point guard only he’s getting what 16 to 18 minutes that’s not enough reps to progress at the rate we’re trying to get him to move to so I rather cut down on Beasley and Hardway Junior’s minutes then I would you know cutting down Jade minute especially if they continue to push that super high ceiling that I think they can get to as a starting back court so Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland they didn’t become an All-Star backourt until bigger got there and I hope that’s what he’s looking to do I I get the fit part with with Kade and either Bey or Tim Hardy Jr but it’s not like Jade na’vi is just a terrible shooter either right if he’s open he’s don’t knock it down I think once to get in the spacing all around with Tobias and it’s just going to make it more evident but I think you sacrifice a little bit of shooting perhaps to allow Jaden iy to get those minutes to see all you can get out of this starting back court right yeah I I think it’s just a a way to have constant pressure applied on team’s defenses you need to have that constant pressure applied to those defenses you don’t need to drop off when the bench come in you don’t need this all bench lineup right especially when JB biger staff is known for not having huge rotations he’s usually seven eight or nine deep so like you said it’s not going to be 10 Deep every night yeah yeah like I said you you constantly apply pressure that way there’s no breaks you know what I’m saying because what we were doing last season was absolute nonsense it’s absolutely it just makes me happy that it’s coming from a coach who’s done it you know what I mean it’s not like it’s it sounds great in theory but okay has this worked for you like he literally came from a situation where it worked great for him and that may have been the draw on both sides another Jaden quote from um JB he said I think there’s a natural speed in athleticism that is hard to deal with in this league and he said he’s looking forward to seeing Ivy catch the ball on the move and play and to play with that Tempo so once again this is why I think you have to start them together you bring Jaden Off the Bench if you would to do that when K is down who’s going to put Jaden in situations to be able to attack off the catch right if you you know who’s going to be that guy Sasser he’s not at that point so in order for you to have that you need to have a playmaker on the floor who can get him the ball in that situation and Kate is got to do that but if he’s sitting down who’s doing it so he would have to start along him in order to do that it’s just for me there no other way around that happening in that way based on what they’re saying you have to be able to use Ivy’s speed and athleticism period not only with the Monty Williams um staff but also some of the Wayne and Casey I always felt like why don’t we run more we should be out running especially with all these young players on this team we didn’t do that consistently and it drove me crazy so right uh like I said that’s that’s your advantage man you got assar Thompson on this team too you also I mean you just drafted you know Ron Holland get out and run you know I’m saying and at the same time allow Ivy to be great man and attack that basket and use his his gifts right because it’s very very hard to stay in front of him yeah I totally agree this is from Lance one of our guys what’s going on Lance um he said you guys think we could see a different guard start depending on the matchup um I I don’t think so I think they’re going to try to well I think they should try to keep it as consistent as possible because I really just want to get Kade and Jaden as many reps as possible we say a lot out of 164 possible games that they’ve been here they played 68 of those together 30% so unless somebody’s in fou trouble or something like that then I think you go into your you know deeper into your bench and maybe you start you know I still wouldn’t start anybody different but F trouble I’m looking at thj and possibly Beasley if my guys are in foul but as far as starting I’m riding with these two guys I’m really trying to see what they give me in different situations I want to see what works I want to see what doesn’t Ivy working on this jumper you still have Ivy working on you know becom a more complete point guard it just gives you more options I think if you just allow them to get more and more reps and kind of get a feel for each other yeah I I think also it’ll be a better understanding on offense with the two guards that we have and kayen Ivy on you know who should be doing what cuz I seen a lot of confusion out there on the court when them two was out there together trying to figure you know saying I think there’s going to be more of a a greater explanation of role explained to these guys like this is what we’re looking for in the offense this is when we go to Ivy this is when we attack this when this it’s going to be based off you know match matchups I believe so and that’s just evident because of what you seen with Garland and Mitchell so yeah I think we’ll have a better situation I I’m not mad at this Cersei a lot of guys need to work on their defense not just ji but he does too but once again that’s why we got JB here I totally agree with you as far as the defense as a whole guys got to stay the follow Tri start reaching play more disciplined defense but I think JB because he also said he has a coaching staff that he brought that’s full of teachers so we we got F Vincent and that’s great but we have a staff according to JB that that wants to teach everybody wants to teach so that’s the development piece of it I’m I’m G let you spin for a minute dce I got pizza at your door oh do your thing do your thing save me a slice um so yeah let’s get to some of these questions real quick let’s see salute King and Deuce do you guys think if the Suns fall in the west the P can move for de I mean dbook is De book right like as much as I can I really want to see what I can get out of Jaden Ivy and K Cunningham I know I’m saying that to exhaustion to me it’s just like even if you think it’s not going to work don’t you want to give yourself enough of a sample size with a properly constructed team to see you know what I’m saying I don’t want another Chris Milton situation to where we’re just letting guys go too soon without actually seeing what they look like on the right kind of team you know what I’m saying if he’s available and we can do it you know okay so if you’re if you’re okay with that I I will make a move like that with dbook once I’m sure that it’s not going to work with Jaden and K and I’m not at that point at all can we get tus Jones as a back I’m not mad at that once again for the same reasons I just outlined as far as with dbook I don’t want to do anything that’s going to stunt the growth of that back court man this is going to be year three for them in total whether you factoring in injuries it’s going to be year year three for them I don’t want another season of us saying what do we have with them well we still don’t know what we have yet I don’t want no this is the year to find out what we have in full even if we overdo it we need to know if we’re going to make any type of moves like that and so I think having Ivy as a backup point guard as a starting shooting guard allowing him to catch off the ball right like Vier was talking about that obviously is something he wants to do that can only happen to Vis that shooting guard we only have one point guard which is Kate right so he has to be in the lineup with him that obviously is what they want to do so in my mind that means Ivy is starting and we know that Ivy has taken a lot of time the past two seasons to learn how to really play point guard right let them learn gradually let them watch Kade let him learn from Cade when he’s on the court off ball and then let him incorporate those things when he is as the point guard on ball you know what I mean like let him let him see it from a different perspective as a shooting guard and then go to point guard and let him execute it you know what I’m saying that’s where I’m at I’m really just about the growth of these young guys especially this back court and I want to see how they look like I said before I want to see how Jaden looks with spacing too he had Cory Joseph out there he had killing Hayes he had guys That Couldn’t Shoot the ball out there with him a lot of time right so as a point guard learning a position you haven’t learned and you don’t have the right team to do it you have no idea what he’s capable of when he has what he needs so that’s that’s my thing let’s just see I can I’ll feel so much better about making a trade even if it involves him knowing that we saw what it looks like first as opposed to just saying ah we’re impatient we got this deal right here we think that’s going to work for sure it’s a big name but no that’s no that’s that’s not we’re not even at that point of progression to have that sense of urgency to have to do that yet so I know patience is is boring I know just going through it is boring but like we always say in order to build something long term you got to do it slow take time you got to know for sure so that’s my take on that what kind of pie we get I got some dominoes man here for sure send me a little slice of that for sure I’m come grab it later y 2K you don’t want to see buff up y 2K breaking set by Michael J bringing Glory Days Back to the Future Michael J he’s way ahead every time he’s got a plan yeah off by none other than his brother Canon if this is more 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11 Comments
It makes sense. Bad Boys and Going To Work Pistons did this type of 3 guard rotation. Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, and Vinnie Johnson. Rip Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, and Lindsey Hunter.
Holland will give Ivey the ball off the bench they can run
Ivey can still get the high minutes without starting. Beasley is a better fit with Cade to start games. Ivey can come in off the bench for Beasley. Have minutes with Cade. Then Cade goes to the bench for THJ. and Ivey stays in. Eventually Beasley and Cade come back in. Good lord if we started Ivey, Ausar, and Duren we would only have one shooter with Cade to start the game
Itโs crazy that people keep thinking that IVEY not starting..๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐ฎโ๐จ๐ฎโ๐จ๐ฎโ๐จ๐คท๐พโโ๏ธ๐จ๐พโ๐ซ๐จ๐พโ๐ซ
Idc who starts. We need to win. We have a team full of inconsistent shooters. I hope the new coaching staff designs plays that contribute to the attributes our guys naturally have. We definitely can out run alot of teams.
Bickerstaff is crazy…. Doesn't he know he is supposed to sub in his whole second line at once like the Red Wings?
Call me crazy but I want a starting lineup of Cade, J.I, Ausar, Tobias, Duren. We need to play faster something I've been wanting honestly since the Drummond days. I'd have Stew, & Reed share minutes at the backup 4 & 5 but i also wanna see Tech olay some 4 sometimes too.
I dont mind the experiment. Dont think it will work, but lets try it.
Think Cade needs a lights out shooter.
He's not starting
Cade
Ivey
Asuar
Harris
Duren should be starting lineup to start season
I like Jaden Ivey. But he was bad..bad .bad last season. Jaden Ivey is facing a make or break season. Ivey has to improve his jump-shot. Ivey has to improve his mid-range shit. Ivey has to improve his defense. Right now, Ivey and Cade don't fit together!! I'm not sure those two will work. Really, I know Ivey and Cade won't work. But I'm open to being 10000% wrong.