gil: “Dolan gets all the blame because everything sucks, but he actually cares? ”
Kmart: “Yeah!”
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kmart: “There were people in place for a long time in the org that were handicapping Dolan ”
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Bonus: “yo they gotta get rid of Randolph” 🙄
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kinda shifting my feelings of Dolan during those years
Knicks94
Players are not the ones who trash Dolan. Mostly positive stories
NYdude777
The Steve Mills slander LUL
Living_Internet_2970
I was surprised to see Kmart say that the Knicks were the first team he went to that actually took care of their players. He said Dolan doesn’t care about spending money on his players and staff
BadassRPMofo
Who the hell is Randolph?
Japples123
I mean Dolan let Isiah do whatever the fuck he wanted
nyc24chi
Very cynical take: Is Kmart – just maybe – kissing up a bit to somehow get into Dolan’s good graces, maybe to be seen at Knicks games, boost his profile a bit, etc. now that they’re good? (Bracing myself for the downvotes)
thardy8
As time goes on it seems more and more like Mills was the problem. Granted he was an extension of Dolan, but it just sounds like he was clueless. I think at the end of the day, these billionaire owners are so removed from the normal world that I’m sure the players appreciate getting paid but somewhat resent to poor job the front office did while most of them were there.
hotploppy
yeah, and dolan hired that front office and gave them free reign. kind of why leon is doing so well, free reign from dolan. he just picked the wrong guys and stuck by them for too long. dolans a shit person (from accounts online) but honestly a decent owner, picks the FO guys and sticks out of business. finally seeing it pay off with a good front office
spiked_cider
Gilbert’s show is always spewing some hot takes for clicks so I definitely would take this with a grain of salt.
Dolan has gotten much better over the years but multiple sources over the decades since he took over from his father have said or alluded to him being difficult or undermining them.
But again he’s gotten way better over the last few years with his dealings with the Knicks and Rangers
Jewdius_Maximus
Dolan gets dragged from fans primarily because 1) he brought Isiah Thomas into the fold and that fucked the team for a solid decade, badly; 2) he comes off as a douchebag and antagonistic nepo-baby billionaire.
By all accounts though I haven’t really heard much about players hating on him.
Grandmaster-1090
Oh wow look, another player who said Dolan wasn’t problem.
GX112
But this goes against the narrative that Knicks won’t be good until Dolan sells the team that ESPN tries to sell and many people here regurgitate.
The fact of the matter is, owners should only be judged by 1 thing – how much they are willing to spend. Dolan has never been cheap BUT he has constantly hired the wrong people up until Leon. He has said some dumb shit but which owner hasn’t? He just needs to keep spending money and staying the fuck out of Leon’s way now that he’s actually got someone competent in the position.
Mark Cuban is like a media darling and has positive relations with the media. The people in the position of power for the Mavs were caught sexually harrassing and creating a corrosive workplace environment. The Mavs hire a woman president and the whole thing is like forgotten about lol. Imagine if that shit happened to the Knicks….
To me, this is the same stuff as “Thibs runs players to the ground”. Once you get caught with some ESPN narrative, it stays with you forever and all it takes is 1 loudmouth idiot to say it on TV and it’ll catch fire.
To me, Dolan is like a mid owner. Not the best but not the worst but tv personalities will make it look like we have Satan as our owner.
Abradolf_Lincler_50
Dolan isn’t free from blame. He hired the people making terrible basketball decisions. Isiah Thomas set us back a decade alone. Dolan is gonna spend the money, but when it’s being spent on Jerome James and Eddy Curry, the franchise is in trouble.
ApolloThneed
Most important part of being a CEO is hiring the right leaders. Took Jimmy a while to get there, but it hasn’t been for lack of effort
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gil: “Dolan gets all the blame because everything sucks, but he actually cares? ”
Kmart: “Yeah!”
—
kmart: “There were people in place for a long time in the org that were handicapping Dolan ”
—
Bonus: “yo they gotta get rid of Randolph” 🙄
—
kinda shifting my feelings of Dolan during those years
Players are not the ones who trash Dolan. Mostly positive stories
The Steve Mills slander LUL
I was surprised to see Kmart say that the Knicks were the first team he went to that actually took care of their players. He said Dolan doesn’t care about spending money on his players and staff
Who the hell is Randolph?
I mean Dolan let Isiah do whatever the fuck he wanted
Very cynical take: Is Kmart – just maybe – kissing up a bit to somehow get into Dolan’s good graces, maybe to be seen at Knicks games, boost his profile a bit, etc. now that they’re good? (Bracing myself for the downvotes)
As time goes on it seems more and more like Mills was the problem. Granted he was an extension of Dolan, but it just sounds like he was clueless. I think at the end of the day, these billionaire owners are so removed from the normal world that I’m sure the players appreciate getting paid but somewhat resent to poor job the front office did while most of them were there.
yeah, and dolan hired that front office and gave them free reign. kind of why leon is doing so well, free reign from dolan. he just picked the wrong guys and stuck by them for too long. dolans a shit person (from accounts online) but honestly a decent owner, picks the FO guys and sticks out of business. finally seeing it pay off with a good front office
Gilbert’s show is always spewing some hot takes for clicks so I definitely would take this with a grain of salt.
Dolan has gotten much better over the years but multiple sources over the decades since he took over from his father have said or alluded to him being difficult or undermining them.
But again he’s gotten way better over the last few years with his dealings with the Knicks and Rangers
Dolan gets dragged from fans primarily because 1) he brought Isiah Thomas into the fold and that fucked the team for a solid decade, badly; 2) he comes off as a douchebag and antagonistic nepo-baby billionaire.
By all accounts though I haven’t really heard much about players hating on him.
Oh wow look, another player who said Dolan wasn’t problem.
But this goes against the narrative that Knicks won’t be good until Dolan sells the team that ESPN tries to sell and many people here regurgitate.
The fact of the matter is, owners should only be judged by 1 thing – how much they are willing to spend. Dolan has never been cheap BUT he has constantly hired the wrong people up until Leon. He has said some dumb shit but which owner hasn’t? He just needs to keep spending money and staying the fuck out of Leon’s way now that he’s actually got someone competent in the position.
Mark Cuban is like a media darling and has positive relations with the media. The people in the position of power for the Mavs were caught sexually harrassing and creating a corrosive workplace environment. The Mavs hire a woman president and the whole thing is like forgotten about lol. Imagine if that shit happened to the Knicks….
To me, this is the same stuff as “Thibs runs players to the ground”. Once you get caught with some ESPN narrative, it stays with you forever and all it takes is 1 loudmouth idiot to say it on TV and it’ll catch fire.
To me, Dolan is like a mid owner. Not the best but not the worst but tv personalities will make it look like we have Satan as our owner.
Dolan isn’t free from blame. He hired the people making terrible basketball decisions. Isiah Thomas set us back a decade alone. Dolan is gonna spend the money, but when it’s being spent on Jerome James and Eddy Curry, the franchise is in trouble.
Most important part of being a CEO is hiring the right leaders. Took Jimmy a while to get there, but it hasn’t been for lack of effort