It’s really hard to compete for a Championship with an undersized SG as your best player.
AccomplishedMall5397
Everybody needs some vast amount of copium in the hard times of stuck-in-the-mediocricity-forever era that Jazz fans are going through rn.
Alohalhololololhola
Bigs who can playmake and bring up the ball are more value for your money as Star players are top tier (Lebron, Jokic etc. )
Bigs who can play multiple positions/ position less basketball are also top tier (Boston Jays)
Investing huge money into guards is risky and I’m personally not for it since they are always at a size disadvantage which makes them a defensive liability at the end of the day.
Donovan is overpaid imo but due to our cap structure it’s not like we could have spent the money on anything else. I wish we kept markanan though
Far_Youth_1662
Depends on where you rate him.
If you think he’s the ~15th best player in the league, then no, he’s not overrated. And that says something because consistent all stars dont come around all the time.
When I hear takes from fans that consider him borderline top 5 in league, I wonder if they watch any other teams play or are capable of basic analysis of statistics and metrics.
killa_k99
“Only a 4 point difference between him and Colin Sexton” is one of the most unserious basketball takes I’ve ever read
wooha
The foh
Necessary_Maize_3245
Just sounds like salt from jazz fans if im being honest.
Yourpenisstinks
Heat fans, Knicks fans, nets fans, Lakers fans, and more fan bases wanted him so badly before he extended. And “empty calories?” Tf does that mean? And there’s still a massive gap between Mitchell and Sexton, sexton is WAY more like that “empty calories” player he was referring to, considering his entire career has been his entire career has been pounding out empty stats on tanking teams,
steamofcleveland
Mitchell played some of the best defense of his career last year, top 5 in steals to add to it.
When I judge a guards defense a big factor is are they a detriment to team defense and in Utah and Cleveland there have been strong defenses with Donovan Mitchell on the team. I would never claim he’s an elite defender, but he’s not Trae Young where a team cannot play effective defense with him on the floor
OhioUBobcats
Oh I see your problem you’re looking at r/NBA for serious basketball conversation.
JRSwishistheGOAT
Donovan is one of my favorite cavaliers ever but I don’t think championship expectations are fair with him as our best player. I think it could be possible but you would have to have a very specific roster which I just don’t think we have rn. That being said, empty calories guy is an incredibly unfair thing to say about him IMO. Throughout his time here, I think he’s been the one guy I can point to constantly and call him a winner.
NuclearPlayboy
I like it. Takes like like create fun rivalries.
Abiv23
Not much
Mountain-Song-6024
I love Donnie. I still wanted Colin gone. I wanted to keep Lauri and have the big 3 towers.
While I’m happy he resigned, I still had an absolute blast watching the year we lost in the playin.
Rubio was up for sixth man of the year before his injury. love was decent. We were fun.
Mitchell and Sexton are so different though. It isn’t even close. Some people around Cleveland would say that shit and it boggled my mind. Watch the full games of both and if you still say that, you just don’t have good basketball IQ and awareness.
I just valued Lauri with the bigs more than Mitchell. Garland had more room to grow.
Now Donnie stunted growth to an extent of him and it isn’t his fault. It’s kobys decision to do that.
That’s why I truly feel our way to reach a higher ceiling is with Donovan at PG and moving garland. I’d prefer garland gone before Allen.
12clrush
I was a Louisville fan growing up. Watching him with Utah is what got me to the NBA. I happened to be moving to Ohio the summer he came to Cleveland, and am now a Cavs fan. I’ve stuck with Mitchell his whole career. This is a bogus take. Is Don one of the handful of best players in the league who can get it done with a shitty roster around him? No. Is he damned good with legit playoff bona fides to go with it? Absolutely. Admittedly, it’s been frustrating to watch a few of his recent playoff performances, but I’ve also seen him be absolutely unstoppable on some big stages. Also, his defense has been really improved with the Cavs.
As far as players not liking him, I don’t really see that. He and Rudy didn’t get along, but Rudy has a pretty long track record of being hard to get along with. Those Jazz teams weren’t built well for deep playoff basketball, and neither have the two Cavs squads he’s played with. Donovan as a number 2 on a well balanced roster or as the number 1 with another player close to his level (like this season’s Celtics) is, I think, a legit formula for a championship.
bucketsdnt11
As a disclaimer, I don’t agree with this take, BUT I do agree that he was overrated when he was in Utah. He’s been so much better these past 2 years in Cleveland, though. When we first traded for him I actually wasn’t really happy about it, but he’s blown away my expectations.
All that to say, while I think their opinion is extreme, I can see why a Jazz fan in general, who probably doesn’t pay much attention to the Cavs, would think that he’s overrated.
nicklePie
Sexton is Donovan Mitchell wtf 😭😭
Editing to say yo who gave me this KD flair lmao 🤣
nobraininmyoxygen
Hasn’t Mitchell been the best player on his team which made the playoffs every year he’s been in the league? Saying that’s empty calories is wild. Sexton doesn’t even know what the playoffs are.
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It’s really hard to compete for a Championship with an undersized SG as your best player.
Everybody needs some vast amount of copium in the hard times of stuck-in-the-mediocricity-forever era that Jazz fans are going through rn.
Bigs who can playmake and bring up the ball are more value for your money as Star players are top tier (Lebron, Jokic etc. )
Bigs who can play multiple positions/ position less basketball are also top tier (Boston Jays)
Investing huge money into guards is risky and I’m personally not for it since they are always at a size disadvantage which makes them a defensive liability at the end of the day.
Donovan is overpaid imo but due to our cap structure it’s not like we could have spent the money on anything else. I wish we kept markanan though
Depends on where you rate him.
If you think he’s the ~15th best player in the league, then no, he’s not overrated. And that says something because consistent all stars dont come around all the time.
When I hear takes from fans that consider him borderline top 5 in league, I wonder if they watch any other teams play or are capable of basic analysis of statistics and metrics.
“Only a 4 point difference between him and Colin Sexton” is one of the most unserious basketball takes I’ve ever read
The foh
Just sounds like salt from jazz fans if im being honest.
Heat fans, Knicks fans, nets fans, Lakers fans, and more fan bases wanted him so badly before he extended. And “empty calories?” Tf does that mean? And there’s still a massive gap between Mitchell and Sexton, sexton is WAY more like that “empty calories” player he was referring to, considering his entire career has been his entire career has been pounding out empty stats on tanking teams,
Mitchell played some of the best defense of his career last year, top 5 in steals to add to it.
When I judge a guards defense a big factor is are they a detriment to team defense and in Utah and Cleveland there have been strong defenses with Donovan Mitchell on the team. I would never claim he’s an elite defender, but he’s not Trae Young where a team cannot play effective defense with him on the floor
Oh I see your problem you’re looking at r/NBA for serious basketball conversation.
Donovan is one of my favorite cavaliers ever but I don’t think championship expectations are fair with him as our best player. I think it could be possible but you would have to have a very specific roster which I just don’t think we have rn. That being said, empty calories guy is an incredibly unfair thing to say about him IMO. Throughout his time here, I think he’s been the one guy I can point to constantly and call him a winner.
I like it. Takes like like create fun rivalries.
Not much
I love Donnie. I still wanted Colin gone. I wanted to keep Lauri and have the big 3 towers.
While I’m happy he resigned, I still had an absolute blast watching the year we lost in the playin.
Rubio was up for sixth man of the year before his injury. love was decent. We were fun.
Mitchell and Sexton are so different though. It isn’t even close. Some people around Cleveland would say that shit and it boggled my mind. Watch the full games of both and if you still say that, you just don’t have good basketball IQ and awareness.
I just valued Lauri with the bigs more than Mitchell. Garland had more room to grow.
Now Donnie stunted growth to an extent of him and it isn’t his fault. It’s kobys decision to do that.
That’s why I truly feel our way to reach a higher ceiling is with Donovan at PG and moving garland. I’d prefer garland gone before Allen.
I was a Louisville fan growing up. Watching him with Utah is what got me to the NBA. I happened to be moving to Ohio the summer he came to Cleveland, and am now a Cavs fan. I’ve stuck with Mitchell his whole career. This is a bogus take. Is Don one of the handful of best players in the league who can get it done with a shitty roster around him? No. Is he damned good with legit playoff bona fides to go with it? Absolutely. Admittedly, it’s been frustrating to watch a few of his recent playoff performances, but I’ve also seen him be absolutely unstoppable on some big stages. Also, his defense has been really improved with the Cavs.
As far as players not liking him, I don’t really see that. He and Rudy didn’t get along, but Rudy has a pretty long track record of being hard to get along with. Those Jazz teams weren’t built well for deep playoff basketball, and neither have the two Cavs squads he’s played with. Donovan as a number 2 on a well balanced roster or as the number 1 with another player close to his level (like this season’s Celtics) is, I think, a legit formula for a championship.
As a disclaimer, I don’t agree with this take, BUT I do agree that he was overrated when he was in Utah. He’s been so much better these past 2 years in Cleveland, though. When we first traded for him I actually wasn’t really happy about it, but he’s blown away my expectations.
All that to say, while I think their opinion is extreme, I can see why a Jazz fan in general, who probably doesn’t pay much attention to the Cavs, would think that he’s overrated.
Sexton is Donovan Mitchell wtf 😭😭
Editing to say yo who gave me this KD flair lmao 🤣
Hasn’t Mitchell been the best player on his team which made the playoffs every year he’s been in the league? Saying that’s empty calories is wild. Sexton doesn’t even know what the playoffs are.