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44 Comments

  1. I think what this season so far is exposing, is the Giannis might be a bit of a diva. He keeps talking about wanting to win and potential trades so as to scare the front office into doing something, the front office does something. He doesn’t like it and continues to talk like he wants out. Not to mention the Gianni’s Dame pair should work, if Dame is the one leading the office but for whatever reason Gianni’s won’t adapt to that. Like a Gianni’s Dame pick and roll should be dealt but Gianni’s doesn’t set screens that often and would rather just ask for the ball and barrel to the rim. Like there has to be better strategy and I get that Doc rivers is not good, but Giannis Dame should know better but they don’t somehow?

    As for Doc Rivers, everyone knew that was a bad move. But in also wondering who was available that they could bring in? Aside from the coaches Milwaukee already fired. Probably not much. They really should’ve gutted out the last season.

  2. As a heat fan, I think we all should give them time with this exact team and keep doc

  3. They messed up trading Jrue. Middleton has got to go. The way they handled the Bud to Griffin to Doc pipeline is the cherry on top. I honestly think it’s over for the Bucks as long as Doc is there

  4. Nobody is mentioning the fact that Giannis led the movement to hire AND fire Adrian griffin as well as the Jrue trade. He made his bed now he has to deal with it.

  5. Khrushchev Middleton being out is more the norm than not norm. We need to stop acting like he impacts their game


  6. I have some energy for Giannis. He got Griffin fired, got Doc hired (implied Giannis consent). He made the team trade for Lillard. Like…this is his bed. He has a significant share of the blame IMO

  7. bucks perceived themselves to be in trouble with adrian griffin so they took a "safe" gamble on doc but he is notorious for the lack of adjustments and relying on star power. almost 20 years later his single championship is carrying him to more jobs. the finesse is generational and it actually baffles me that front offices continue to bring him in DESPITE WHAT FORMER PLAYERS OF HIS HAVE TO SAY. bucks front office needs to be looked at, kenny atkinson have the cavs rolling (i understand their schedule isnt that tough so far) winning the games they should

  8. I am so glad someone else has pointed out the drafting and player development. It's been ass for years. I still haven't forgiven them on the Divincenzo trade. Looking like another 50 years till the next title!

  9. Doc Rivers has been coasting on carrying a bad Orlando team to a .500 record in '99-2000. That's what earned him his COTY and later the Celtics job. Then the first superteam in league history carried him to a championship. His tenure with Boston should be looked at as a minor failure considering that team should have won at least two championships. From there it's just been let down after let down, blown series lead after blown series lead. AKA Doc Rivers was always an overrated coach. How he's still getting jobs is astounding.

  10. The Bucks are probably the best example of a poorly run organization that succeeded through luck and bumbling into a good pick up or two. Giannis at the pick he was at growing 6 inches and becoming top 5 is the only player that they have developed well and its a pretty easy argument to make that it was Giannis developing Giannis not the Bucks developing Giannis. The Jrue Holiday trade worked out wonderfully but caused the front office to fundamentally misunderstand the entire concept of defense and it backfired immensely after coach Bud's firing and trading for Dame. They have legitimately put Malik Beasley and Gary Trent Jr. into positions where they will absolutely fail with the herculean task of replacing Jrue Holiday on defense AND making up for Dame's lack of defense and seemingly had the expectation that these (albeit decent) role players that have never shown defensive virtuosohood would be the solution. The entire reason they traded Jrue Holiday was because he wasn't good enough on offense to carry the Bucks far with Middleton either out or at 50% power as if anyone would be able to make up for that while playing DPOY quality performances as PG. All of this is to be said while paying 4 head coaches in 2024-25, paying for Khris Middleton who unfortunately has regressed and been unable to stay on the floor, and watching Brook Lopez regress inch by inch each season.

  11. Jimmy Haslett getting a piece of the Bucks ownership started the bad juju that created the domino effect of doing the Lillard/Holiday trade and all the awful coaching choices the past few years.

  12. this is on giannis.His faliure to expand his game has a ceiling ultimately. His faliure to expand in the pick n roll game. This team is old on top of that. They panicked with the first round exits. they dont have enough shooting, they pushed all their chips in on the table on the dame trade. Lost their perimeter defense. Lost their identity.

  13. Darvin Ham was also an assistant coach when they won the chip, I don't think you can put all the blame on one assistant.

  14. The thing that doesn’t get brought up near enough is that Mike Budenholzer may be one of the most unfairly shit talked figures going around. He took over the Bucks, won them 50+ games in every season he coached, got fired because Giannis got injured and Jimmy Butler went Super Saiyan for two weeks.

    Bud obviously has issues coaching playoff series, but he’s a top 5 basketball coach who ensures that you make the playoffs with a good seed every year, and it gets way undervalued in lazy media narratives

  15. Lost again last night to Cleveland.
    Giannis and the organization got rid of a good HC for Doc Rivers. What did they expect?

  16. People keep saying this is on Giannis…… Giannis doesnt run the FO, FOs have to be able to say no to their stars sometimes. So if the FO totally cratered to whatever Giannis wanted the FO is still 100% responsible IMO

  17. People keep saying this is on Giannis…… Giannis doesnt run the FO, FOs have to be able to say no to their stars sometimes. So if the FO totally cratered to whatever Giannis wanted the FO is still 100% responsible IMO

  18. People keep saying this is on Giannis…… Giannis doesnt run the FO, FOs have to be able to say no to their stars sometimes. So if the FO totally cratered to whatever Giannis wanted the FO is still 100% responsible IMO

  19. People keep saying this is on Giannis…… Giannis doesnt run the FO, FOs have to be able to say no to their stars sometimes. So if the FO totally cratered to whatever Giannis wanted the FO is still 100% responsible IMO

  20. They should have won last night. I say that as a cavs fan everything was stacked in their favor AND giannis and dame both went off for 70+. There's some horrifying roster construction going on if you can't win with that

  21. The value they gave for Dame is insane. No only did they give multiple picks for Dame, but giving away Jrue, who they also gave away multiple picks for, makes the value they paid for Dame be closer to 6 first round picks for a 33 years old who was already looking on the decline. This is one of the worst overpays in the history of the NBA. The cherry on top of that failure is that they could finish out of the playoffs and start giving super valuable picks to other teams (this year its the Nets cashing in, next Pels, then Portland starts taking their drafts). This is terrible and rushed built that proves you can't rush rebuilds in the NBA

  22. I don’t the MB revisionist history. Everyone wanted him fired even after the championship. Now everyone else talking about “why did they get rid of him in the first place?”😂

  23. No one talks about it, but Giannis is the same player he was in 2019 if not worse. The fact that Giannis throughout his entire career has only figured out how to get bigger and how to spin to get space is sad. You need to learn to shoot or develop some half court offense. He is a big reason of why they are not winning as well. Stagnation is a killer in the NBA, coaches are on your bad habits so you need to evolve. This is why Denver is less effective, this is why the Bucks are less effective. These old teams are stuck in their ways and need an evolution. As a Spurs fan this is where the Spurs were in 2010, old and unevolved. The only way to get back to contention is to change and be different

  24. You're right about the dame to the bucks thing. But it was the raptors not sixers. Raps ended up not offering a ton but they were in talks

  25. I’ve been mentally preparing myself for this day for a while, pretty much since 2022. I’ve watched this franchise be horrible at drafts, trades, contracts, FA signings and coaching hires for my entire life and it never really changed even after Giannis arrived.

    The Bucks lucked into Giannis and Khris panning out, and even then the front office did everything in their power to screw the team. Just look at the rosters the Bucks were trotting out dating back to 2018, it was only Giannis, Khris, 1-2 good role players, and nothing else.

    How can you expect to win while relying on playoff Drew Bledsoe, Ersan Illyasova, a couple washed vets, and some young bums who can’t play. They saw that 2019 collapse and still decided to pay Bledsoe, which of course led to another playoff exit, and because of that terrible contract they had to pay New Orleans out the ass with draft capital to get Jrue Holiday.

    We were lucky enough that Bobby and PJ were available mid season since we don’t win in 2021 without them. If we hadn’t won in 2021 we probably don’t win at all in the Jrue era due to the injury luck of an old ass roster. Especially since we don’t hit on any draft picks, trade good players for bums, and over pay for more mid.

    Bud’s time as head coach had definitely run its course. His faults would screw us over at the worst times. Like deciding to never defend 3 pointers, cost us a few series doing that. But the way they fired him was bad, we were already screwed by injuries plus his brother had just died, there was no way we were beating Miami after that. But if they were consistently going to screw up the following hires, they might as well have kept him.

    We were cooked the moment Haslem bought the team. It’s over now.

  26. Honestly I think dame need to set the reset button and I think if they had to trade to someone it shud have been Middleton losing jrue jus messed up there whole aura

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