OKC’s Revenge on Dallas, NBA Cup Nitpicks and Favorite Rookies | The Bill Simmons Podcast
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by David Jacoby and Kirk Goldsberry to discuss the first games of the NBA Cup quarterfinals and more!
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41 Comments
NBA Cup is the dumbest idea ever, not a single person cares about this shit.
Why do we do this every year…. over reacting to a game in december…. these games mean absolutely nothing
The cash incentive doesn't work if everybody, including the losers, get paid. Team incentive – get the All-Star game hosting for the next season. Cup winner gets additional home game in first round if finishing 1-4 (3-2-2), series opener if 5-8 for 1-2-2-2 road-home format (after play-in is completed), or invitation to play-in as 10th seed if not qualified.
scrap the tournament, instead pick a date in early November, and then do an all-league tournament, best record to worst, ignore conferences, single elimination. So this year would be CLE vs WAS, OKC vs NO, BOS vs UTAH, MEM vs TOR etc.
I know this would be almost impossible to work into the 82 game season, but i think it would be fun
Shai is better than Luka
Bill hate for bucks need to be studied
Houston is not a real contender be real. That's not a team built for a 7 game series. You need an A1 guy to get buckets in the playoffs, they don't have that. Their leading scorer is one of the least efficient players in the entire league. They have a second round ceiling if being generous and really can go out round 1 depending on the match up
TALK ABOUT MVP AND NOT MENTION GIANNIS. BULLSHIT!!!!!
They should make the semi final and final of the nba cup count towards regular season win total. If you lose, it doesn't affect it the loss column, but if you win in the semis you get one extra win, and if you win the cup you get two extra wins.
1:02:20 I've always liked Kirk, but him saying that he originally liked the Randle trade for the Wolves shook me to my core.
Suggs is a role player good college guy bench nba guy
Players staying with teams longer is better for the league.
I dont have any sympayhy for a player who makes almost $50m a season and complains about winning. Sorry dude, 1 player is taking up 1/3 of a whole teams pay and theyre are what, 14 other guys on the team?
How about Jimmy Butler for Jamal Murray
What’s with this sound and video quality nephew Kyle
Okc won’t come out the west
Hi team, idea for the Cup to add some spice to it. The lowest seeded team in each conference every year does not get to compete in the cup the following year. Also the final game should not count against your record if you lose, it should count for your record if you win. That 1 win advantage could be huge seeding wise another benefit of winning.
Love to hear your thoughts
Orlando medical staff sweatin that ‘obliques’ test they cheated on in college. Practice tomorrow gonna start w/ an 80s aerobic tape and some P90x plyometrics
blur..unblur..blur..unblur..
My fix for the NBA Cup reward:
+2 in the win column for the winning team, buffing their win% and giving them an advantage in a tight race.
So they would be the only team with a win/loss record out of 84 games. If you apply this to the west last year, this could have been the difference between the lakers being a play in team or 6 seed. Or had the nuggets won it, it woulda given them the #1 seed in the west.
I think this really entices good teams to try hard. The Celtics, the Cavs, they would have tried significantly harder in their group games knowing this could give them the edge in playoff seeding over the other. Instead, they both blew a game to a bad team.
OKC IS NOT COMING OUT THE WEST
My idea for fixing the regular season and the NBA Cup: First, bring back divisions and guarantee each division winner a playoff spot (though not necessarily a top-four seed). This would revive rivalries and make divisional matchups matter again. Next, introduce a playoff selection show where the top three teams in each conference get to pick their first-round opponents, with the #1 seed choosing first, then #2, and #3. This would add huge stakes to the regular season as teams fight for a top-three finish and make the selection process must-watch TV, with drama and strategy as teams openly pick their opponents. Finally, elevate the NBA Cup by giving the winner not only prize money but also the first pick in the playoff selection process—if they make the playoffs. This incentivizes teams to compete in the Cup while still ensuring they must perform well in the regular season. These changes would make every part of the season more competitive, bring back rivalries, and create more must-see moments for fans.
The incentive ideas for the NBA Cup were hilarious 😂
These three are good chemistry.
Joker’s wife, Jamal, needs to step up.
David Jacoby SUCKS.
The NBA cup is like the FA cup. Big teams don’t care so much, sure it’s nice to win but there’s bigger goals. Weaker teams see it as a chance to get something good out of the season and a stage to play big games against good teams.
Goo goo gaa gaa
Wayyyyy too much magic talk
If you win the Cup, you get one lottery ball.
Didn’t Dallas already win a game in OKC this year? Without Luka? HEAVY recency bias
NBA Cup is stupid it doesn't matter. Players don't care. Fans don't care. The only people the care are Talking Heads and the guys forcing it down your throats in charge of the NBA.
Bucks winning streak was against no one. They played a Magic team down two of their best players and struggled to beat them. Take Giannis and Dame of the Bucks do they even win 1 game out of 82? The Roster is old and slow other than Giannis. You foul Giannis and watch him shoot 7-30 from the FT. Injuries to the other teams is the only way the Bucks win a 7-game series. They are to old and slow. Then add in one of the worst playoff HC every in the NBA. Good luck.
suns are not 13-11
The Suns build your team again guys who are now always hurt. Then are shocked when they are always hurt. DK never missed time when he was younger. Now it's hard to keep him on the court.
Your obliques are not your love handles😭
Leave the game alone. All you guys want is more to talk about just like today.
Houston doesn’t have a go to scorer in the playoffs they would get swept
Let’s talk hypotheticals since ppl keep wanting to bring up PJ. what if pj played? Ok, what if Chet played? Okc is down a much better player, it’s not even a conversation, and still won. Pj is not the needle mover yall think he is. Pj ass would’ve got locked up too and got backed on the other end. Stop it
Robert Sarver? Dude doesn't own the Suns.
Luka put up more points rebounds and assists last year !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??! He did what Jokić was doing last year and y’all had luka as 3rd in mvp!?!?!?!? Stop the Jokic favouring