NBA Cup Final Preview, Schroder Trade Reaction & Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors | The Hoop Collective
Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN’s Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to talk about the finals matchup for the NBA Cup between Milwaukee and Oklahoma City, including how the Thunder are putting the league on notice before talking about potential trades for the Warriors after the Dennis Schröder deal and if there are any moves to be made involving Jimmy Butler.
0:00 Intro
1:01 Thunder Continue To Impress
14:39 Bucks Turning Season Around
18:33 NBA Cup Final Preview
25:49 Transaction Season Beginning
26:01 Interesting Move By The Pistons
27:47 Dennis Schröder Trade Reaction
40:01 Potential Jimmy Butler Trade Possibilities
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Yall should be ashamed to be covering the NBA as a full-time job & get on here straight-faced saying “Giannis might not be a better player than Shai”
I’m sorry is Shai a FMVP, DPOY, 2xMVP?? One day imma find out why media shades Giannis
Also yall were quick to talk about AJ’s shooting success without even mentioning Taurean Prince, too 3pt in the league, even being on the team
The Bucks don't struggle with perimeter defense with their new rotation. Andre Jackson Jr and AJ Green are both good perimeter defenders. Andre Jackson Jr specifically, can legitimately be on an all defensive team too. They don't struggle with that in the new rotation. That's literally old news. You get good perimeter d from Khris Middleton, Taurean Prince, and Gary Trent Jr as well.
Also hilarious for you to try to pretend that Shai has an argument to be the better player on the court when Giannis is present, when there is zero argument for that. You would never do that with Jokic. Giannis is clearly better than Shai even if Shai is a top 5 player. At no point in this season or even in their careers, has Shai matched Giannis's peak level of play
Dude just said he doesn’t know who is better, sga or Giannis? im never watching this filth again. Bias and ignorant reporting
OKC must be laughing recieved a Kimgs Ransom in trades involving Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul & Paul George. Look at Okc now and look at the 3 players they traded now.😂😂
You mean to tell me the Thunder aren’t gonna double team Giannis😂😂😂right🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
What about the kings & Fox for jimmy?
I don't care who wins the Cup final, the game doesn't even count.
Thunder fans, dont forget to send your Christmas cards for the Flippers. Special mention to Kawhi.
This mf said shai is better than Giannis LMAOOOO
The warriors needs a center that can protect the basket and shoot the 3. ( Miles Turner)
The disrespect towards the bucks needs to stop omg 🤦🏽♂️
This Bontemps dude rarely allows others to speak without interruption. He's been stepping over others regularly
Shooting 60% from the field, avg 30 ppg, 11rpg and 5apg but won’t be the best player on the court along with having 4blocks last game🤣🤣 the media is something else
This year's cup final is dramatically better teams than last years' Pacers/Lakers. These two teams can actually meeting in the West finals this year
I was hoping for more Texas twang from Brian
the west allstar outlook is nuts…
Jokic
SGA
Luka
KD
AD
LeBron
Curry
ANT
Ja
Kyrie
Wemby
…all should make it
that leaves ONE spot for JDub, Sengun, Booker, Fox, Harden, Sabonis, JJJ to name a few
F U NBA …. Corrupt organization and F U about this cup. Tired of you guys controlling games and manipulating outcomes. Especially with the Knicks.
FK THE CELTICS AND LETS GO LAKERS 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💛💜💛💜
What are we doing? Is OKC the better team at this point ? absolutely. But Shai is definitely not better than Giannis.
Also, he already saw a Dort, Naw, Shai, Dillon Brooks type lineup 4 months ago and gave them 35 in FIBA. With less help
IF Bucks wins the cup, the media will still give a narrative or an excuse for the fault on the win. Bucks can't win with just a simple acknowledgment. Giannis will have to continue playing his best & finish the business. As usual.
Ask Bontemps what his friend, the anonymous scout, has to say about Victor Wembanyama now.
I need a notification for when Bontemps is no longer on this pod. Sorry Brian. He ruins this.
SHAI is now top 3 players in the NBA. Jdub will not be an all-star but he's playing like an all-star.
ALL BUCKS can do at this moment is play great ball and keep winning (and hopefully win it all) to shut these guys up.
Is Tim ready to admit Dallas is nowhere near OKC’s level?
Nikola Jokic is the MVP by a 1000 miles! Just look at what he is doing. 31 pts, 13 rb, 10 asst, 57% FG, 52% from 3, 62% eFG. There is no discussion on MVP. Come on, now.
FYI there is a You tube video tour with Jimmy Butler as tour guide of his Florida Multi Million Dollar Home custom and professionally designed.
From the way he speaks it appears he is very happy living there, so my guess he want to stay in Miami Florida.
Can we have less Bontempts speaking and more MacMahan???
i watched the theo pinson pod what is jimmy actually thinking
OKC miss shots in the first half. If they hit shots, they normally hit this with have been a 20+ blow out. The Rockets are a fine team, but they struggle so score. Almost no one on their roster can get their own shot. Good luck against OKC if you can do nothing but hope someone else gets you your shot.
Today Bontemps was unbearable. Constant interruptions.
LeBaby isn't playing like an all-star this year. If he makes it the NBA should be embarrassed.
A one for one player trade? They traded melton and Reece Beekmans contract to make the money work Windy
Wob's gotta be the Tuesday Cup special guest
Curry wanting to do his selfish look at me at the end of the game lose GS the game. The most important thing is winning the game. Taking to shot with 1 second on the clock miss or make was the only thing that should have happened. He doesn't that there is no foul because the game would have been over. Couldn't happen to a bigger show off in the NBA. He's more worried about his, "look at me" moments than winning games.
Brian so badly needs to become purely the moderator for the two Tim’s. whenever he talks actual basketball he’s so out of his depth and is blatantly wrong on every guess he makes-it’s almost a talent to always guess wrong, dude it’s 50/50
He is the typical NBA insider who is great when rumours are swirling or a contract extension is happening but anything inside the 4 lines on a court he is very basic is his knowledge. For someone to be as high up as he is in the NBA journalism world it speaks to just how good he is at keeping everyone on side and not rocking the boat.
Bon Temps OKC doesn't have to really double amybody? Come on !! They double, triple & b throw box "n" 1 on Scottie Barmes when they played Raps last Thursday. And that a Raps team w/ mostly rookie playing. Look at what they did to Luka & Kyrie to some extent?
Okc only lost 2 games with 1 big.. The other 3 games games they've lost were without a big. They have 2 bigs that haven't played together in the season yet!
Sam Presti is one of if not the best GM. Imagine if he wasn't in a small market 😳. This squad is set up for a serious run, 5 years maybe more? Love Tim but it's his voice for me, like nails on a chalkboard 😂😂
22:25 …did this dude just insinuate that SGA is better than Giannis? Stop it
The NBA and ESPN don’t care about small market teams its that simple.
Lmao. These bucks fans crying about coverage are rediculous lol. Like it or not one team has been a top their conference all year (in the "tougher" conference), has a league high in net rating and historic defense so far.
None of those are the bucks lol.
They may win because anything can happen in one game and Giannis is a legit superstar (so is shai btw).
There's a reason the bucks arent the favorite. They havent been as good thos year! Lol.
And you dont judge players from different positions the way you guys do lol.
SGA is THE ballhandler, distributor and offensive enguine for the one seed. Giannis has been the best two way big/wingish player. But to belittle the leader of the more successful team is so silly and just comes off as jealous.
No need for that bucks fans! Yes, you've most likely been passed by the celtics and a chip seems unlikely. BUT at least you got one with him! Us OKC fans wish we had with Russ/kd.
Could you imagine high schools and NCAA having something like an In Season Tournament?!😂
I’m officially tired of the NBA fanbase. A bunch of casual fans who don’t want to accept that OKC and SGA are going to run the league for the foreseeable future. SGA will mop the freak off the court with ease Tuesday night.
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