Phoenix Suns Crossroads: Acquire Jimmy Butler Or Move Kevin Durant?
The Phoenix Suns are at a crossroads ahead of the NBA trade deadline between going all-in for Jimmy Butler to keep Kevin Durant, or moving KD himself to a new team.
Brendon Kleen and Ben Garcia discuss how we got here and how the Suns should proceed the rest of this week before deadline day.
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46 Comments
Breaking news. Jonas valincunas traded to suns
We got here because we didn’t appreciate what our Valley Squad accomplished and built! Unfortunately the best thing turned out to be the worst which is making the finals so fast!
Dallas thinks they can somehow get KD now ??? Shoulda called Matt ishbia when they were shopping Luka and they’d get KD and 3 firsts easily
This is KD saying if you don’t get Butler out! Look at what happened in Brooklyn
I’ve said the day he signed here that he will bail when things aren’t going well or get what he wants.
Plot twist maybe this is what Nurk tried to warn everyone about with his comments…..
If it comes out that Beal was the reason why KD gets traded for Wiggins and Kuminga I hope Phoenix boos him for the rest of the time he is here
It’s Booker. Miami would take Booker and phoenix is stalling because of it.
Yes they should have taking Beal contract with no trade claws
If its KD pushing for it I hope he has some self reflection as to why it didn't work out here.
Grimes made 4 mill what you talking about 😂
Why is booker laughing at the Mav’s yeah Nico is a dumb ass but at least we can still want win a playoff series and both books co stars want out 😂
When you sell your soul, this is what you reap Suns!
18:05 welpppp we all thought the same shit with Luka and here we are😂😂😂
NOTHING in Phoenix FITS! #FreeKDTilKDFree 🙏🏾
If we trade KD and get back Jimmy Butler I’m done with this team.
great podcast; can you stop promoting NAZI X/twitter? thanks -everyone that has had a family member literally sent to concentration camps and/or fought in World Wars against this shit
Why keep Book if you trade Durant….Suns will be stuck at least 2 years of Beal making Book too old to integrate with young guys….2 Timelines
garcia doing dumb shit again
Sengun Poison Pill
What Number will Jimmy wear in Suns Uniform????
We don’t want Butler! He’s flippen toxic! He’s not what we need if there’s no Durant especially
Getting Butler will make no difference. The Suns have no offensive schemes other than 1v1, terrible defense, and the bench is bad.
Brendon – ''I don't know how we got here." Answer – by trading for Beal which you've always defended.
Growing up a Suns fan since 1989-90 KJ and Chambers days. I've never seen so much ridiculousness from the newer fans that are nothing more than KD fanboys. Most of us knew it was stupid to trade our young core for one guy. Unless its Michael Jordan, im not giving up my team for one guy. The newer delusional fans love Ishbia, but those of us that knew better hated the trade from the start. Butler can't fix our problems, and this team is too old to run with younger and more athletic teams…remember last year. Stop blaming Beal and Nurkic, because the coach is so terrible and is to blame as much as the gm and owner. If ishbia wanted to throw his money around, he should have just went out and hired Phil Jackson. Trade KD, which would probably make Beal leave as well. We need our draft picks back with some solid young players.
After losing to Portland twice against two of our former players should show everyone that this experiment is over. Trade Allen, Tyus, and O'Neale as well. I will take Kuminga, Looney, Wiggins, and some draft picks. And if Booker wants to go after all of this….Houston would do to get back our picks with 3 other solid players. Two coaches were fired because of this team and they're both much better than Bud. Nuff said.
0:37 Ben is killing me with that head swing 🤣
Draymond and Nurkic cannot be a teammate in Phoenix Sun no way
Warrior fan here: Draymond will dramatically improve your defense. Kuminga is a great fit next to Beal and Booker. Kuminga as a ceiling well above Beal and he can be physically dominant. If you get Draymond and Kuminga and two first rounders….that's a very good haul.
I don't want KD to be traded. If we don't get Butler, fine. We can still get some other pieces through waivers. Nurk trade is likely more plausible than getting Butler. Maybe I'm optimistic but we are only 2 1/2 game back of the 6th seed. That's saying something with how stacked the West is.
Big dick Ben with the negotiation skills😂😂
Durant > Butler all time OBVIOUSLY, however
KD 47,300 mins vs Butler 32,200!
5 more seasons of milage (35 mpg x 85 games played x 5yrs) so Butler over KD not as crazy as it sounds (as kooky as Jimmy is especially since Jimmy Buckets hasn’t had as many season ending type injuries as KD and is also a yr younger).
Also quietly in JUST PLAYOFFS (2020s only):
Butler > Durant in PER (24.5 vs 22.2), WS/48 (.206 vs .136), BPM (7.2 vs 5.5), VORP (5.7 vs 2.4).
Butler lead teams 37-27 in Playoffs since 2020 (2 finals runs and another ECF game 7….+50 +/-)
KD lead teams 13-18 in Playoffs since 2020 (-73 +/-).
2020s Playoffs (not career bc 2010s KD elite playoffs)
Jimmy 1st team All NBA
KD 2nd or 3rd team (though his 2021 was amazing!)
IF Suns got Kuminga (who I’m high on…averaged 21, 6, 3 last 14 games before hurt this year at 22 yrs old) and Jimmy Butler in 3-4 team trade for Durant and picks that’s a no brainer to me given KD’s age/milage/injuries (even though KD in my Top11-16 GOAT tier).
They were never realistically gettin Butler for Beal bc of his contract & NTC while averaging only 48 games per yr the last 4 yrs.
We traded Mikal bridges for no reason that’s what makes me so mad bro lolz
And if we’re getting off KD I’d rather wait until the offseason and get the best package we can get
Does Beal realize he’s the whole problem of this team lolz
Wow that would be great(not) watching one of my favorite players traded to another team and kicking our ass 😢
Personally at this point I’d do KD for Fred Van Feet , Jabari smith and 3 of our firsts back . Easily all day lol
Don’t trade KD just to get Butler. If we can’t get Butler for Beal, just see the season through.
For everyone saying we should not have traded the twins for KD, that was not the mistake. The mistake was letting go of DA and Chris Paul. The 2023 Suns were the only team that beat the Nuggets twice in the playoffs. That group with a different coach would have done well.
Unretire dan marjle until Suns=💩💩with 6'8 kD or weak jimmyB
Blazers own the Suns 😂
This team has zero mojo
Suns aren’t going to trade kd to warriors for the bums from the warriors 😂
KD should leave and go to the Dallas marvricks reunit with Kyrie f..k Bradley Beal and Booker should request a trade to Huston Rockets leave Beal in phoenix, is the same thing he did to John Wall in Washington he is ah silent cancer mat it's on you Bro I feel the way you feel right now I just hope you could do something different, but KD to the marvricks best bet
KD loves 3 superstar teams lol
I say go get a real center and Lonzo ball from the bulls keep KD if it doesn’t work out figure it out after the season
are these hosts trying to say that if the Suns don't get Butler, they will lose KD?
I dont see what kd had to say was about him. It coulda been..seems to me he was referring to players who are truly beloved by a certain fan base. I.e.luka and dallas……booker and phoenix. For examples.
No no no should have not traded cam Johnson mikal bridges cam payne j Crowder should have waited till Kevin Durant contract was up.
lol is that serious who would ever pick butler over kd