A HISTORIC DISASTER for Dallas š³ Playoffs for Blazers? + Sunsā STRUGGLES šÆ | The Hoop Collective
Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN’s Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to talk the impact of Kyrie Irvingās injury on Dallas, why this season is one of the biggest disasters in NBA history for the Mavs, the Sunsā struggles including a major concern, if Portland can make the NBA Playoffs and if the Lakers can keep up this hot streak.
0:00 Intro
1:10 An unfortunate disaster in Dallas
22:17 How will Dallas handle Kyrieās contract?
31:52 Suns continue to free fall down standings
41:21 Playoffs coming back to Portland?
45:35 Can the Lakers keep this up?
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What Bontemps is saying about tearing it down in Dallas, while extreme, he isn't wrong. They won't do it, but without Kyrie, an AD-led Dallas team won't go anywhere.
Someone should look into the Dallas training staff. I wouldn't be surprised if this year they have a bunch of scrubs.
It's too much of a confluence of events
… trading for injury prone, already injured players, compromising the roster so Kyrie is the only ball handler and has to play heavy minutes, reinjuries to players coming back.
These are some calculated machinations.
What is Tim bontemps issue exactly? Why is he always fuming ? Can yal replace him please
Lakers robbed dallas. GM NH. Fired but damage is done. Next GM of lakers NH.
This is so crazy to say but this is a realistic scenario if AD is available this offseason and it would be absolutely hilarious. And of course this is also if the Lakers donāt go on a deep playoff run and wanna make a change to their roster. If they win the whole thing obviously this isnāt even a discussion. What if AD got traded back to the Lakers? Reaves, Hachimura, Gabe Vincent, Kleber makes the salary match AD. Gabe and Kleber expiring contracts after next season. And Reaves and Hachimura very good pieces for you and Reaves has all star potential next season. Also I think they can give the Mavs 3 firsts that theyāll have available in 2026,2028,2030. I know it sounds crazy but thatās honestly not that a bad haul to get back if youāre the Mavs š but no way it happens because it would make that Luka trade even crazier than what it already has becomeā¦
Bontemps had a particularly bad day. His bad manners and arrogance today were beyond acceptable.
Dallas owner bet Luka in a poker game and lost. Can we please address the elephant in the room.
Nico be shopping on Zillow….
OKC has a a lot of first round picks, they should trade for AD, thatās championship team.
Kyrie averaged 14 points in the finals and got rewarded with leading the franchise. I love Kyrie but what team has he led to a deep play off run?
The Mavericks are so cursed right now that even Quentin Grimes is going off in Philly while Caleb Martin sits in a suit
Will never watch another NBA game. Dallas ownership/mgmt ruined my loyalty, my interest, my confidence. Iām done.
Oh so are we finally done with the fake intellectual smart guy take saying Mavs actually won the trade in the short term and the Lakers are worse off for this season
Boycott the mavs games. Simple. Stop going. It will destroy them. Payback.
Iām a bit confused, Wind Horst was arguing on this podcast last week that it was no big deal that AD got hurt and it was a total fluke, now heās arguing thatās itās the most unpopular trade in NBA history? Why would it be so unpopular, Windy?
Bontemps is correct on the overview of Dallas front office. Not saying itās a easy pivot but relying on an often injured AD & an older recovering from an Aflac Irving is shaky ground. Niko said him & J Kidd wouldnāt be around in 10 years š they might might not last the next 3-4 yrs. SMH. The basketball gods has gave their judgment
They should trade ADā¦these arenāt 25 year old stars getting injured
Trading a 26 year old superstar for a 31 year old star player with an extensive injury history, rushing that player back to where heās hurt within minutes of touching the floor and having a 32 year old pg play the most minutes in the nba over the past 2 months is malpractice and the owners should be forced to sell the team.
When Windhorst was coming up, he had a nice post game and was known for aggressively attacking the basket. He was often compared to Bonzi Wells.
Honestly this move was to keep the lakers high after lebron cuz they had nothing after he leaves. Completely destroyed a franchise to do it. Havenāt watched a single game since and could care less. Its so bad it even ruined my hopes for the upcoming nfl season. Just the thought of corruption there is in sports. Its all rigged.
Len bias draft month worse than the stupid mavericks' month
McMahon is not very talented or insightful on really anything and says a lot of things that make no sense. Talked way too much for so little talent considering he is with the 2 best NBA guys in the business.
āMental health work?ā Kyrie didnāt do and didnāt need any mental health work lmao he literally never did anything wrong!
Tim McMahon is trying to hide his sadness about his boss after he made a stupid move.
KD and Klay in the same NBA finals
Man this episode was almost unwatchable with the annoying bontemps consistently injecting his best karen voice.
Was not more than a month.. was exactly a month.. Luka traded the night of Feb 1, Kyrie tears his acl the night of March 3; February only has 28 days. February 1 to March 3 is 30 days. Not even 31 days. It was really a month, not more than. February itself isnāt a real full month. Also just another part of why we really have 13 months worth of weeks (52) in a year, and not 12 months worth (48).
4:10 it wasnāt really Kings center J.V., it was freakin Derozan who freakin whacked Kyrie across the face and arm that caused him to come down messed up on J.V. foot after the knee to knee bump with J.V.ās knee – but if it wasnāt for Derozan coming in & doing that, Kyrie maybe/probably is able to come out from the J.V. contact ok
19:54 no, Tim, all of them, not some.. āmean things saidā is the least of what Mavs ownership & FO & the league commissioner deserve .. and even the Lakers owner Buss & Pelinka, for going along with the blatant conspiracy if not being apart of originally plotting it with Adelson, Silver, Dumont, Nico (paid off āfallā guy?) and maybe even Cuban (and thatās why he got out before heād be the villain in Dallas) .. and eventually Kidd – which Luka def scorned Kidd in the Mavs Luka Lakers matchup- Kidd was the only coach Luka didnāt embrace after the game – Kidd knew but was it really ā11th hourā (which then say no & try to block it.. tf?) or was it even sooner or even him apart of it to begin with? (Less likely the latter obviously) ..
Mavs Announcement:
Kyrie canāt handle his body well which cause him to injure himself. This kind of unprofessional is not what our Organisation wanted. He need to be gone
Thats not Nicoās fault. If he got all player healthy, they have a shot. He should get a pass on this
They should just move the team. They've already destroyed the fanbase. I wouldn't trust this organization to do anything sensible. And as a free agent, who would even want to come play for this organization?
Mavs paying Nico for destroying their club and whole Dallas city!
I think it'd be great if Mavs season ticket holders cancel en masse, and if sponsors abandon the team. The Adelsons are exceptionally evil billionaires and deserve nothing but misery until, at least, they fire idiot boy Nico.
Windy need to back up from that camera or make this an audio only pod ASAP
I wonder how Klay feels right now..- and i agree with Bontemps on AD: trade him. Get whatever you can get. And rebuild..
MAGA decisions in action by mavs ovners, what a clowns