Miami Heat’s HISTORIC Losing Streak | Is Bam’s Ceiling LOWER Than Expected?
The Miami Heat, grappling with an 8-game losing streak, face a critical juncture in their season. After a recent blowout loss to the New York Knicks, is it time to finally embrace the tank? This episode dissects the Heat’s performance, focusing on Bam Adebayo’s role and potential as a cornerstone player.
Wes Goldberg and David Ramil explore the concept of “untouchable” players, debating whether Adebayo remains indispensable. They also discuss the impact of Jimmy Butler’s absence and speculate on potential offseason moves, including trade scenarios involving Tyler Herro.
Timestamps
0:00 Intro: Heat’s losing streak continues
5:42 Embracing the tank for lottery odds
13:25 Tim Legler on Heat
18:25 Bam Adebayo’s ceiling
30:56 Untouchable players for next season
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34 Comments
Riley is so out of it that he’ll probably resign Alec Burks and run it back this offseason. Traded a 1st for Rozier. Was going to offer Caleb a 5 year deal. Gave Bam a max extension. Lost the face of the franchise to a team that’s now thriving. He did all this in 12 months..
If Bam is “untouchable” your team is soft & bad
It’s funny, but yeah we told you all to tank in January. Being a constant play in team means nothing. Get a real superstar or get KD this summer.
A bunch of yall really thought this roster was playoff bound. If I could have made side bets with a bunch of yall Delusional ppl. I would have enough money to watch Jimmy in the second round of the playoffs. KD nor Trae Young coming here to help a lower tier team…😂😂😂. Trade em all and now they trying to Tank. Don't matter who we get. Because if they run this same roster back, new year, same result 😂😂😂😂
Bam isn’t the problem. The team is awful and our primary creator is only an all star because jimmy pouted all year and he got the usage. I think depending on how the start of next year goes we should consider blowing it up. Splitting from pat, maybe make Spo our new front office guru like Celtics did with Steven and find a new good coach or promote from inside. Rebuild the team, we haven’t faced down a true rebuild since like 2008-9 and we lucked into LeBron to save us from having to consider moving wade. It’s time.
Bam's issue isn't just that "he doesn't do enough". He ACTIVELY hurts the offense. He NEVER dribbles towards the rim, and the few times he does he gets stripped. Instead he burns ten seconds of clock by dribbling without any intention except to get to the 3pt line so a guard can save him. He always fades away and never makes a move towards the rim. He never rolls hard to the rim and instead stops at the dotted line to clank out a floater with his clunky touch.
Y'all in the media are way to emotionally invested to rationally evaluate his play.
Wes, Bam has averaged 20ppg ONCE in his career. He has significantly below average efficiency for a center or PF.
He does NOT do everything elite except score, ARE YOU EVEN WATCHING THIS SHIT OR DO YOU JUST SPEW THE SAME CLICHES YOU'VE COME UP WITH. HE KILLS THE FLOW OF THE OFFENSE. HE CAN'T PASS ON THE MOVE. HE CAN'T DRIBBLE THE BALL WITHOUT GETTING STRIPPED. HE ACTIVELY PUTS A CEILING ON THE OFFENSE.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS NOT WATCHING THESE GAMES NOT US.
Pat Ego Riley 😂😂😂😂 Tyler is TOTALLY TOUCHABLE…. He's a Limited Player, that doesn't affect winning AT ALL ‼️ He will be traded this summer… Stop trying to over Hype him… He's Basic‼️
"They haven't been much more than a play in team with Jimmy Butler" THEY HAVE THE SECOND WORST RECORD IN THE LEAGUE NOW THAT HE'S GONE. ONLY ABOVE THE WIZARDS. SO DISINGENUOUS.
Literally nothing that comes out of Wes' mouth isn't total horseshit.
Jaren Jackson who is a dpoy, was able to post up and drop a reliable jump hook. Its the same with sabonis. All of bam contemporaries can give you consistent offense. Especially given the shots bam gets. Its not that his offense is bad, its that it is wildly inconsistent and it has been for years now. From one night to the next he could miss or hit jump shots or lay ups. No max player is this inconsistent. Bam is a defensive anchor. Probably the best 1-5 defender in the league, but we have to be real about him being a star. He is a high level role player.
Tyler is a number 2 option at best. But everyone is just so damn inconsistent.
At this point you start to develop ware. Let bam figure it out on the offensive end. Im no longer interested in making him the focal point of any offensive sets. Let him rim run or get put backs. Give those touches to ware let him develop the rest of this year since its a tank anyway.
They need to turn duncan, jjj, rozier, wigs and anyone not names jovic, herro, bam and ware into picks.
Bam quit on the heat
It's insane to me that you guys think KD helps this team in any way. Outside of the top 5 players in the NBA. There isn't one individual that elevates this current team into contenders. We don't have the assets to pull off something like that, so our best option is the draft. We need to draft our franchise player. Then build around them.
I also don't understand the idea of trading away Jaquez, Jovic, etc. If you're rebuilding. You keep your young players and continue to develop them. You trade away your veterans. I'm not even convinced we need to blow it up just yet. I think you try your luck with the 2 draft picks. I think you retool the roster a bit. I think Herro might have to be traded. You can't pay him the money he will be asking for. He just doesn't make enough of an impact on this roster. You can possibly trade the expiring contracts of Rozier, Anderson's contract that isn't guaranteed after next year(basically expiring), and Duncan's partially guaranteed contract. Just bring in some fresh blood next season.
That's so cute you think a draft pick is going to save you
Here comes the Excuse Machine 😂😂😂… Tyler took Subliminal Shots at Jimmy, now he's Eating Those Shots ‼️ 14-2 vs 4-15‼️💪🏾
Bam is NOT a Max Money player period.
He is a good player not a Superstar
Bam's Intangibles, makes him a Max Player. He's a Winning Player, Unlike Tyler. PS Wes sounds Foolish, saying they were a Play In Team with Jimmy… While they were in the Finals ‼️ Both of you were Totally Wrong, Stand On It😂
I’m very disappointed in Bam. He has too much talent to be this inconsistent. His game has not evolved. Makes you wonder what he does in the offseason.
Hall of Fame ??? Click…. Unsub…
I know there's a lot of young guys on this roster so maybe we want to see how they develop before we think about trading them (or maybe you just trade them for the sake of getting a "needle-mover"), but for Bam and Tyler, they've been in the league a while, they've had the playoff experience. They were supposed to be the guys to step up and take the reigns after Jimmy and it's resulted in the longest losing streak the franchise has had since 2008. Miami might have to ask some hard questions in the future about Bam and Tyler and whether they can be the guys to lead Miami back to the promised land (I know fans out there certainly have their minds made up). The goal is to win championships, so if Bam and Tyler can't get us there as lead dogs I would support entertaining trade offers for those guys in the future for the sake of either getting a "needle-mover" directly or draft assets where we can get our "needle-mover"' via that way
I feel like us heat fans are asking the wrong questuon. It’s not, who are we willing to give up, it’s who in the league wants what we have? Does Jamie move the needle for any team? Jovic? The have potential, but if I’m the suns and KD wants out, I’m not taking them. I could get a hoard of picks from another desperate team.
just a bad year. we’ll get through it yall!
Heat needed a rebuild, get rid some of the players who doesn't meet the standards.
Bam cant have off nights like that as the # 1 or # 2 on the team… The Heat won't ever b good if the best player on the team is defense 1st in a offense 1st league
Herro Rozier Triple j poison time to ditch their asses Captain sniffles lose his captaincy title not a leader
Who does bam work with in the offseason? For years in the offseason he should been paying former elite post players to help him develop his offensive game. At this age I don’t see him adding levels to his offense.
Yall really expected bam to have a high ceiling? Kel el ware's ceiling is alot higher.
Scary Terry is toxic! PST Riley was so desperate to take Bradley Beale… Pause…😮 Draft Rutgers PG
I like Bam but in my opinion, he is not a franchise type player. He is really good but can he carry or even lead a team towards real contention; no. Bam and Tyler are fringe all stars.. Does it mean that they're not good; not at all. They have proved that they are good but they are not all to blame.
The woes of this team is a combination of management: contract negotiations and not valuing draft picks until now and then it's ultimately the players: as a unit this team is just not good enough.
The truth is; it's time to rebuild but it's looking bleak for a while if management doesn't come up with a sound strategy for this organization. Hopefully they will be able to offload some of the bad contracts: Duncan Robinson and Terry Rozier and continue to add value through the draft. Lastly, then ultimately land that whale that they haven't been able to do since LeBron James.
At this point , bench them all , CALL UP THE G league squad and let them start …….
Heat culture 💩💩💩 🤣🤣🤣
My concern with this tank is that can toronto pass them csuse theyre trying to lose as well?
Most likely play in team and by accident win 2 play in games
As long as Bam is still on this team as the franchise player this team wil continue to be dog 💩
Miami and Golden State both was average teams before the trade, after the trade Golden St has the NBA's best record Miami has the worst or 2nd worst, simple. When will Riley and Spo get some blame?