Kuz is a 4 not a 3 thats on Doc Giannis is a 5 most of the nights Kuz thrives in transition and spacing can't do that because Brook is always on the the inside
Khris is playing small ball 4 in Washingtonš Kuz is a small ball 4 that's taller and more athletic rebounds better runs the court better and please don't compare Khris defense against Kuz he's holding NBA stars down when he's guarding them thats on Doc to give him the defensively assignment all game instead of picking them up in the 2nd halfš¤¦š¾š
Yall will never get it. Dame has to go. He came and sucked the life out of this team. We need to get something for him while we can. The dude does not lay it on the line, play hard, help his teammates become better, liability on defense, plays hero ball. Scared of competition. The opposing team hunts out Dame because his defense is so bad. Ppl just look at points, itās more to basketball than just being able to hit a long 3. He made the bucks 1 dimensional with that Dame Time stuff. The opposing team knows whoās getting the ball every time, he makes everything about the Bucks predictable.
If we don't make it to the ECF, Doc needs to be fired. There are no plays being run, nothing, it's clunky chaos. Mike Budenholzer is no longer on our payroll, we can afford another head coach again…unfortunately. Dame is not a shooting guard, the game just flows when Dame brings the ball down as the primary initiator, doesnāt need to be all the time, but at least 70% or so. The Bucks honestly employ an offense where 2 guys (including Dame) sit in the corner and simply don't move throughout the entire possession. It's just beyond terrible.
Doc should never have been hired and needs to be fired before every upcoming game. Khris shouldnāt have been traded for Kuzma either though honestly thatās not as a black and white answer as you think Iād personally say tbh. Kuzma is younger, bigger, a better rebounder, faster and a superior defender plus cheaper which is the big thing. Makes the roster flexible to get guys like KPJ. You definitely need him to replace Bobby in his absence though hindsight is 20/20 but surely another deal couldāve been made for him like Pat and other pieces or maybe even Bobby too though I would hate to see him go but Khrisās playmaking, shot creation and reads with the chemistry with Giannis is just so deadly and shouldāve been invaluable. Saying that Kuzma has ironically shot the 3 better than Khris has the last 5 games and Khris is just so slow now man it hurts to watch and sucks he got injured as he got older but yeah itās not the worst trade though surely something couldāve been done better with the pieces going out or getting someone else if Khris had to be the one moving. Though it really feels like youāre targeting Kuzma more than others kinda unfairly sometimes I gotta say. Giannis and Dame had worse turnovers than Kuzma today and he shot 40% from 3 and only that low because he loves to take the half court buzzer heaves which he has done all through his career (he did it every game on the Lakers) and it really sinks his overall percentages lower than what they actually are. He held SGA to 11/27 as the primary defender and had some moments where he lost him but others where he made the league MVP miss. Still yes he needs to be better all around but it isnāt all negatives surrounding Kuzma. It is with Doc tho haha
We're not even sniffing the conference finals, let alone the finals. We'll be lucky if we won't get embarrassed by Indiana in the first round. Then we'll be even more lucky if we won't get swept by Cleveland. Injuries right before or even during the playoffs is highly likely, especially to Giannis, Brook and Lillard cause of age and minutes burden during the season. Horrible coaching and rotations. Mediocre bench. I think we're 0-10 against the top teams in the east and thunder in the west. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the bucks nonetheless, but let's be realistic, we're a second round exit at best.
as one of the biggest bucks fan u may meet i am very dissapointed with this team and how they are playing.
first of all trading khris should have been done 3 years ago he was just eating up the salary cap nit allowing the bucks to get anyone good to add any variety to the roster. kuzma is a way better player and he just joined we are judging him way to soon. he isn't used to winning at all and needs to get used to being that 3rd of 4th guy again.
my opinion [u won't like it]
trade giannis and dame out if we don't win this year get something out of dame before he becomes bad and go through a rebuild again and compete in 10 years. but for me giannis is slowing down and isn't athletic and gets injured way more and so does dame. trade for picks and thats it.
just put us out of this misery of thinking we are good contenders when we are not close.
lo[ez can't get 4 rebounds anymore he is old they should have gotten rid of him. dame is playing well this season this team is better than the one last year. but it's not enough to beat OKC celtics and cavs.
kevin porter jr and prince were great moves they can score well and can have 20+ point games.
but is not doc it's not dame it's not giannis it's the other teams just being too good we just have to accept we won't make it past the second round.
at least we are not the mavs or 76ers.
the only chance we win is if the bucks click giannis and dame
and other teams get injured [porzingus, mobley, spida and chet,]
But who's out there everyone who's been or could have been a coach of the bucks are in team's that are also straggling or not even coaching on any NBA team
Kuzma move achieved a lot for us as team without realising ,the main issue so far is coaching Doc doesn't have the answers. we win most of our games on pure talent and roster composition .I'm done with the TP experiment and AJ Green
I think itās funny when I hear people say weāre better with Kuzma and heās a better player than Middleton. Clearly donāt watch bucks basketball. Weāre better since the deadline because of sims and KPJ. Kuzma was decent for like 3 games š and we lost AJ Johnson š
Lakers without Lebron, Hayes and rui , thunder without an all star and another team player but we make excuses for damn Bobby portis , that people were saying is the reason why we had a huge run early after the trade deadline, brook Lopez should be a bench player but he starts, Kuzma should not start or even bench
I think kpj needs to start. Also Kuz has been horrific as of late. Okc game Planned very well Against the bucks. Not that hard to do when you doc as your coach and predictable offense
The bucks offense is so damn predictable. Opening offense is dame bring ball up,Giannis sets a pick and rolls. Itās just pick and roll and pop. I am sick of it. Kuz is not a shooter at all. I would welcome Ajax and Rollins in the rotation. Doc doesnāt make the best decisions. Green is also not shooting the ball well and needs to sit. I expected the Bucks to compete better than they did last night. Shai is really special and has my vote for MVP.
Man I know we lost but yall gotta chill on all this we gotta trade all these players, cmon dawg itās like yall hate your own team just stop following the team if you feel this way, I seen this teamās best moments and if we can go back to that we can definitely make a dark horse run. Ngl tho Kuzma been playing like shit itās time to sit him and start someone else.
I was at this game I found out Kuz only makes during practice right before the game and he almost never shows it in the games and Doc Rivas literally just sat down and let the players sit and did not even talk about anything during a timeout LIKE WHAT
Ajax should be playing every game not four minutes every six games this team has enough shooters i think Doc is waisting Ajax career..i don't understand the logic behind his coaching.
My big fear come playoffs is the other team shooting 3s while they intentionally foul Kuzma and Giannis down the stretch. Two players that suck at free throws is going to be the downfall IMO
A big problem ive seen this season is Prince hes somehow has a high 3pt % but misses open shots constantly, if he wouldve hit 2 3pts it wouove changed the game. So my suggestion is get Gary Trent jr to start over Prince and having Prince come off the bench would be great. Also giannis yes he got 10 assists the gane but for this season he has been taking bad shots in the paint when he should pass the ball out. They need to get shooters in the flow of things. Lopez was also terrible there center scored 24 and brook only scored 8 points a big reason why we lost couldn't protect the paint. So when Bobby comes back it will be a huge difference maker because he will give you 10pts a night plus 6+ rebounds Jericho sims need to get the ball more i constantly see him being open but nobody will give him the ball and if ur not giving ur center the ball more than 2 times a games yeah there gonna double Giannis and be able to stay at the 3pt line and guard up DOC NEEDS to be FIRED hes beena awful coach for the bucks he lets teams get hot and not call a timeout, doesnt make good plays or have a good challenge record, hasnt moved the starting lineupbut a few times this season to see who would best fit giannis and dame and its just ridiculous as a coach id love the bucks to get rid of him but there not
Id like to see Dame get traded for Trae Young. Trae Young would get shooters there shots in he can also shoot, and something inwish dame would do is use the floater game like trae because it al hard to guard and you can literally lob it up to gainnis or brook all the time. Yes Trae defense is awful but he could work more on his defense if hes not using all his energy to score or make plays
To me this is simple you keep going after softer players without toughness. These players were available but softness is the new standard. So you miss out on a Quentin Grimes, a two way player that really defends still on his rookie contract-no brainer, you miss out on a Deandre Hunter, a long 6ā8 wing, another two way player, even a Dorian Finney Smith another two way veteran, who is tough. Soft is the new standard. The Bucks toughest player thatās a dog is AJackson, also the best athlete, after Giannis, but now heās moved to garbage time. So if you observe the game look at the difference in intensity by AJackson and Rollins. We just donāt have any of the starters or rotation players, that give you that energy. So on the great teams or really good teams Boston, OKC, Cleveland, there is a drop off on offense when the bench is in but they make up for it in effort. Absolutely not the case with the Bucks. So no Kuzma is who I thought he was although ok defensively just not tough enough, KPJ shines against bad-mediocre teams but struggles against really good teams. This movement away from toughness started the year after championship with insulting Tucker and letting him walk. Then the next year double down on moving away from toughness by letting Wes Matthewsās and Jevon Carter walk. Again doubling down on softness and inconsistent 3 pt shooting from role players. So here we are a mediocre team with a foundation dripped in softness which shows against the good teams. This may sound harsh but it is accurate. I said this stretch would define who the Bucks are and so far with losses from ORL, CLE, IND, OKC with probable losses to GS, Denver, NYC, maybe ATL and PHX. Some will say this is negative but itās not itās unfortunate reality that was built by the organization.
People in these comments keep blaming dame for a stagnant offense and that heās the reason weāre losing. Thatās just absolutely wrong, you canāt blame one player for an entire teams offense being stagnant, you know who you can? Doc Rivers. When Adrian Griffin was here even though we were a much worse defense our offense was flowing and if we had this dame (25 ppg on good efficiency) and that offense we would be a top 5 offense in the league. Insane to me that people blame dame for this especially when the offense stays stagnant with him off the court. All doc knows how to run is a pick and roll and an iso, itās mind numbingly dull offense and itās the same shit he would run with the 08ā Celtics but this time he doesnāt have 4 all stars and a league thatās way less smart with defensive schemes.
Of teams currently in the playoff picture, Kyle kuzma has the worst true shooting percentage
Since joining the bucks Kyle kuzma has had an assist to turnover ratio that is below one (heās averaged more turnovers a game than assists)
Of players on playoff teams Kyle kuzma has the fifth worst field goal percentage
Kuzma is 23% from corner threes
On teams in the playoff picture, Kuzma has the worst on court +-
Per 100 possessions Kuzma has the second worst three point percentage while also being the second worst three point shooter in the nba that takes a lot of theees
Per 100 possessions kuzma has the worst offensive rating in the nba
Kyle kuzma has the worst effective field goal percentage in the nba
Lets not forgot that the bucks were 30-13 last year under Adrian Griffen (bad coach or not, they were winning games). But since Doc took over its been a disaster theyre basically a .500 team. With the talent/roster the bucks have, they should be winning 55+ games every year. Doc Rivers sucks, theyre underacheiving big time. No excuse for them to be this bad
Everytime you hate and say Kyle Kuzma or Khris Middleton for the Middysexuals. I'm gonna do a drinking game that doesn't involves alcohol everytime the Bucks lose.
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For ONCE, I finally agree with your Kuzma take . šš¾āāļø š
Whst good teams have we beat? Lol Middletown i rather have him then kuzma trade turning out to be a disaster in the playoffs kuzma will be a liability
Kuz is a 4 not a 3 thats on Doc Giannis is a 5 most of the nights Kuz thrives in transition and spacing can't do that because Brook is always on the the inside
Khris is playing small ball 4 in Washingtonš Kuz is a small ball 4 that's taller and more athletic rebounds better runs the court better and please don't compare Khris defense against Kuz he's holding NBA stars down when he's guarding them thats on Doc to give him the defensively assignment all game instead of picking them up in the 2nd halfš¤¦š¾š
Yall will never get it. Dame has to go. He came and sucked the life out of this team. We need to get something for him while we can. The dude does not lay it on the line, play hard, help his teammates become better, liability on defense, plays hero ball. Scared of competition. The opposing team hunts out Dame because his defense is so bad. Ppl just look at points, itās more to basketball than just being able to hit a long 3. He made the bucks 1 dimensional with that Dame Time stuff. The opposing team knows whoās getting the ball every time, he makes everything about the Bucks predictable.
If we don't make it to the ECF, Doc needs to be fired. There are no plays being run, nothing, it's clunky chaos. Mike Budenholzer is no longer on our payroll, we can afford another head coach again…unfortunately. Dame is not a shooting guard, the game just flows when Dame brings the ball down as the primary initiator, doesnāt need to be all the time, but at least 70% or so. The Bucks honestly employ an offense where 2 guys (including Dame) sit in the corner and simply don't move throughout the entire possession. It's just beyond terrible.
Doc should never have been hired and needs to be fired before every upcoming game. Khris shouldnāt have been traded for Kuzma either though honestly thatās not as a black and white answer as you think Iād personally say tbh. Kuzma is younger, bigger, a better rebounder, faster and a superior defender plus cheaper which is the big thing. Makes the roster flexible to get guys like KPJ. You definitely need him to replace Bobby in his absence though hindsight is 20/20 but surely another deal couldāve been made for him like Pat and other pieces or maybe even Bobby too though I would hate to see him go but Khrisās playmaking, shot creation and reads with the chemistry with Giannis is just so deadly and shouldāve been invaluable. Saying that Kuzma has ironically shot the 3 better than Khris has the last 5 games and Khris is just so slow now man it hurts to watch and sucks he got injured as he got older but yeah itās not the worst trade though surely something couldāve been done better with the pieces going out or getting someone else if Khris had to be the one moving. Though it really feels like youāre targeting Kuzma more than others kinda unfairly sometimes I gotta say. Giannis and Dame had worse turnovers than Kuzma today and he shot 40% from 3 and only that low because he loves to take the half court buzzer heaves which he has done all through his career (he did it every game on the Lakers) and it really sinks his overall percentages lower than what they actually are. He held SGA to 11/27 as the primary defender and had some moments where he lost him but others where he made the league MVP miss. Still yes he needs to be better all around but it isnāt all negatives surrounding Kuzma. It is with Doc tho haha
We're not even sniffing the conference finals, let alone the finals. We'll be lucky if we won't get embarrassed by Indiana in the first round. Then we'll be even more lucky if we won't get swept by Cleveland. Injuries right before or even during the playoffs is highly likely, especially to Giannis, Brook and Lillard cause of age and minutes burden during the season. Horrible coaching and rotations. Mediocre bench. I think we're
0-10 against the top teams in the east and thunder in the west. Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for the bucks nonetheless, but let's be realistic, we're a second round exit at best.
Bench Kuz
I think the entire fanbase of the Milwaukee Bucks are more clued up than Doc Rivers.
as one of the biggest bucks fan u may meet i am very dissapointed with this team and how they are playing.
first of all trading khris should have been done 3 years ago he was just eating up the salary cap nit allowing the bucks to get anyone good to add any variety to the roster. kuzma is a way better player and he just joined we are judging him way to soon. he isn't used to winning at all and needs to get used to being that 3rd of 4th guy again.
my opinion [u won't like it]
trade giannis and dame out if we don't win this year get something out of dame before he becomes bad and go through a rebuild again and compete in 10 years. but for me giannis is slowing down and isn't athletic and gets injured way more and so does dame. trade for picks and thats it.
just put us out of this misery of thinking we are good contenders when we are not close.
lo[ez can't get 4 rebounds anymore he is old they should have gotten rid of him. dame is playing well this season this team is better than the one last year. but it's not enough to beat OKC celtics and cavs.
kevin porter jr and prince were great moves they can score well and can have 20+ point games.
but is not doc it's not dame it's not giannis it's the other teams just being too good we just have to accept we won't make it past the second round.
at least we are not the mavs or 76ers.
the only chance we win is if the bucks click giannis and dame
and other teams get injured [porzingus, mobley, spida and chet,]
Put lopez on the bench omg that guy cant run can jump cant do shit
But who's out there everyone who's been or could have been a coach of the bucks are in team's that are also straggling or not even coaching on any NBA team
Kuzma move achieved a lot for us as team without realising ,the main issue so far is coaching Doc doesn't have the answers. we win most of our games on pure talent and roster composition .I'm done with the TP experiment and AJ Green
I think itās funny when I hear people say weāre better with Kuzma and heās a better player than Middleton. Clearly donāt watch bucks basketball. Weāre better since the deadline because of sims and KPJ. Kuzma was decent for like 3 games š and we lost AJ Johnson š
Lakers without Lebron, Hayes and rui , thunder without an all star and another team player but we make excuses for damn Bobby portis , that people were saying is the reason why we had a huge run early after the trade deadline, brook Lopez should be a bench player but he starts, Kuzma should not start or even bench
I think kpj needs to start. Also Kuz has been horrific as of late. Okc game
Planned very well
Against the bucks. Not that hard to do when you doc as your coach and predictable offense
The bucks offense is so damn predictable. Opening offense is dame bring ball up,Giannis sets a pick and rolls. Itās just pick and roll and pop. I am sick of it. Kuz is not a shooter at all. I would welcome Ajax and Rollins in the rotation. Doc doesnāt make the best decisions. Green is also not shooting the ball well and needs to sit. I expected the Bucks to compete better than they did last night. Shai is really special and has my vote for MVP.
Man I know we lost but yall gotta chill on all this we gotta trade all these players, cmon dawg itās like yall hate your own team just stop following the team if you feel this way, I seen this teamās best moments and if we can go back to that we can definitely make a dark horse run. Ngl tho Kuzma been playing like shit itās time to sit him and start someone else.
Go Brewers!Baseball season started EARLY for me. Fire RIVERS and HAM! Package Dame, Kuz and Lopez
I was at this game I found out Kuz only makes during practice right before the game and he almost never shows it in the games and Doc Rivas literally just sat down and let the players sit and did not even talk about anything during a timeout LIKE WHAT
Ajax should be playing every game not four minutes every six games this team has enough shooters i think Doc is waisting Ajax career..i don't understand the logic behind his coaching.
KPJ AND TRENT IN THE STARTING LINEUP NOWWWW
My big fear come playoffs is the other team shooting 3s while they intentionally foul Kuzma and Giannis down the stretch. Two players that suck at free throws is going to be the downfall IMO
A big problem ive seen this season is Prince hes somehow has a high 3pt % but misses open shots constantly, if he wouldve hit 2 3pts it wouove changed the game. So my suggestion is get Gary Trent jr to start over Prince and having Prince come off the bench would be great.
Also giannis yes he got 10 assists the gane but for this season he has been taking bad shots in the paint when he should pass the ball out. They need to get shooters in the flow of things.
Lopez was also terrible there center scored 24 and brook only scored 8 points a big reason why we lost couldn't protect the paint. So when Bobby comes back it will be a huge difference maker because he will give you 10pts a night plus 6+ rebounds
Jericho sims need to get the ball more i constantly see him being open but nobody will give him the ball and if ur not giving ur center the ball more than 2 times a games yeah there gonna double Giannis and be able to stay at the 3pt line and guard up
DOC NEEDS to be FIRED hes beena awful coach for the bucks he lets teams get hot and not call a timeout, doesnt make good plays or have a good challenge record, hasnt moved the starting lineupbut a few times this season to see who would best fit giannis and dame and its just ridiculous as a coach id love the bucks to get rid of him but there not
Doc > Griffin, but that's not saying much.
Id like to see Dame get traded for Trae Young. Trae Young would get shooters there shots in he can also shoot, and something inwish dame would do is use the floater game like trae because it al hard to guard and you can literally lob it up to gainnis or brook all the time. Yes Trae defense is awful but he could work more on his defense if hes not using all his energy to score or make plays
KPJ must be starting line-up and more playing times. He makes a different in winning.
Besides Giannis the Bucks need to play more dominant
So much wasted talent sad
To me this is simple you keep going after softer players without toughness. These players were available but softness is the new standard. So you miss out on a Quentin Grimes, a two way player that really defends still on his rookie contract-no brainer, you miss out on a Deandre Hunter, a long 6ā8 wing, another two way player, even a Dorian Finney Smith another two way veteran, who is tough. Soft is the new standard. The Bucks toughest player thatās a dog is AJackson, also the best athlete, after Giannis, but now heās moved to garbage time. So if you observe the game look at the difference in intensity by AJackson and Rollins. We just donāt have any of the starters or rotation players, that give you that energy. So on the great teams or really good teams Boston, OKC, Cleveland, there is a drop off on offense when the bench is in but they make up for it in effort. Absolutely not the case with the Bucks. So no Kuzma is who I thought he was although ok defensively just not tough enough, KPJ shines against bad-mediocre teams but struggles against really good teams. This movement away from toughness started the year after championship with insulting Tucker and letting him walk. Then the next year double down on moving away from toughness by letting Wes Matthewsās and Jevon Carter walk. Again doubling down on softness and inconsistent 3 pt shooting from role players. So here we are a mediocre team with a foundation dripped in softness which shows against the good teams. This may sound harsh but it is accurate. I said this stretch would define who the Bucks are and so far with losses from ORL, CLE, IND, OKC with probable losses to GS, Denver, NYC, maybe ATL and PHX. Some will say this is negative but itās not itās unfortunate reality that was built by the organization.
Kpj a +5 he gotta start
People in these comments keep blaming dame for a stagnant offense and that heās the reason weāre losing. Thatās just absolutely wrong, you canāt blame one player for an entire teams offense being stagnant, you know who you can? Doc Rivers. When Adrian Griffin was here even though we were a much worse defense our offense was flowing and if we had this dame (25 ppg on good efficiency) and that offense we would be a top 5 offense in the league. Insane to me that people blame dame for this especially when the offense stays stagnant with him off the court. All doc knows how to run is a pick and roll and an iso, itās mind numbingly dull offense and itās the same shit he would run with the 08ā Celtics but this time he doesnāt have 4 all stars and a league thatās way less smart with defensive schemes.
Just give it time and stop over reacting game to gane
Of teams currently in the playoff picture, Kyle kuzma has the worst true shooting percentage
Since joining the bucks Kyle kuzma has had an assist to turnover ratio that is below one (heās averaged more turnovers a game than assists)
Of players on playoff teams Kyle kuzma has the fifth worst field goal percentage
Kuzma is 23% from corner threes
On teams in the playoff picture, Kuzma has the worst on court
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Per 100 possessions Kuzma has the second worst three point percentage while also being the second worst three point shooter in the nba that takes a lot of theees
Per 100 possessions kuzma has the worst offensive rating in the nba
Kyle kuzma has the worst effective field goal percentage in the nba
Lets not forgot that the bucks were 30-13 last year under Adrian Griffen (bad coach or not, they were winning games). But since Doc took over its been a disaster theyre basically a .500 team. With the talent/roster the bucks have, they should be winning 55+ games every year. Doc Rivers sucks, theyre underacheiving big time. No excuse for them to be this bad
doc was saying the right things, but then he spams giannis tp dhos. and go away to dame giannis plays..
i agree on the doc take, for the kuz one, not yet, the lineups thrown are disgusting
Kuzma will be selling crack real soon
Giannis took one shot in the fourth quarter
and that was at the end of the game
if you want to be a star
you have to take your points sometimes
Where is Terry Stotts now?
Everytime you hate and say Kyle Kuzma or Khris Middleton for the Middysexuals. I'm gonna do a drinking game that doesn't involves alcohol everytime the Bucks lose.
Man you are really on Kuzma nutts. Are you straight???
Are you prejudice??
What about Aj bricks..oh I mean Green
Giannis another triple-double, no one seems to care
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