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Ben’s Haircut + Giannis Antetokounmpo: Staying Or Leaving Milwaukee Bucks? – KBN 5.5.25



Ben’s Haircut + Giannis Antetokounmpo: Staying Or Leaving Milwaukee Bucks? – KBN 5.5.25

White people do that. Oh yeah. Look, look how tan I got. No, I feel good, baby. Kissed by the sun, baby. Shout out to St. Martin. St. Martin? Is that what the locals call St. Martin? They call it St. Martin. You know, we do carnival. We move it around there. So, you go one place and you think you know the culture and know everything about it. Boy, boy, you know what I’m saying? All right, that’s Kyle Wallace. He’s back. Brad Norton, longtime NFL punter, Super Bowl 50 runner up. still has his buzz cut as uh Kyle, you missed a lot. We raised $5,000 for the Mac Fund. $5,000. Yes. I don’t know if that was in between St. Martin or Kyle Wallace. I’m not going to lie. I don’t know. There’s going to be a lot of that cuz you know when you go places and people talk to you a certain way and all of a sudden Yeah. You start a little bit of that dancing. You got the game from a room, right? Yes. Like uh Oh, yes. I like with Kyle here, like sometimes when I’m in the 414, I think I’m like, “Yeah, I’m like the 414 guy, but I’m get a little bit more Milwaukee.” Yeah. Uh, that being said, we’ll discuss what we signed you up for with KBN Nation as we drove a lot of donations and a lot of it had to do with Kyle actually following through on things and not just being halfway Kyle Walls. Are you trying to save my mound again? Are you Do you doing it before you even know what it is? Ooh, you know, based on how invested you are into this show in KBN Nation. So, for those who missed it, we had a couple of milestones that we reached in which Brad Norton got a haircut, a buzzcut live on the air. Alex Stro looks like a whole new person. He lost his whole head of hair and now looks like a wannabe rapper. Um, Slim Shady. Slim Shady. Yes, a wannabe Eminem. Chad Hanks. Ched Hanks. Wow. Brad Norton wearing a suit and tie for a week. I have to wear whitey tighties underwear for a week. Wait, this is punish Wait a minute. A punishment to put on a suit and tie. A punishment to put on whitey tighties. That’s it. We’re doing things that we literally hate the most. I I haven’t worn underwear in like 10 years. Wait a minute. This is the lightest. I’m sitting here scratching my mouth because of the damn heat and this man has got to put on a suit. Yeah, I I absolutely despise wearing a suit. So, I can I can die to my own preferences for KBN Nation in the Mac and people were willing to pay for that. Gabe Nitel shaved his beard for the first time since 2015. I didn’t know if that was Gabe or not. You didn’t? It seemed like an impostor. It really did. It really did. He’s got to dress up for work. Ben has to wear underwear. Welcome to being I’m also getting a buzzcut live right now on YouTube at ESPN Milwaukee and at ESPN Madison. We can hear some Clippers. Hey, put the guard on. I’m not trying to look like Stro. I think we got to leave it up to Stro, Brad, and Kyle here. What guard do I get to pick for for Ben Bruss? That’s the voice of Tony Cardania, producer of Thealysis show. Um, who’s done the buzzing of Brad Norton, of Alex Stro, and of Kyle Wallace, cuz somebody donated $50,000 to see that whole head of hair go. $50,000, huh? Yeah. So, we got the no guard. No, I’m just laughing. That that’ll be the the no guard. The no guard is an intimidating uh We got the half. No half. No, it’s a three. Brad did a three. I’m doing a three. Take that man hair down. A three is the largest guard we have. I did a three with a beard trimmer. These look way bigger. Yeah, but I’ve already been told and KVN Nation’s been giving me a lot of flack that if I didn’t deliver, I would be known as a Kyle Wallace and that and the other thing. halfway known as Kyle Wallace. Like you’re halfway Kyle. You don’t do things fully. You didn’t go into fully into Lake Michigan. You didn’t fully do the Brazilian wax you’re complaining about. I’m going to start only fans for those who don’t think I didn’t go fully cuz right now I’m not feeling it below my b my I don’t know for those who are on YouTube on ESPN Milwaukee and ESPN Madison. This seems like a really thick three guard. I’m telling you these guards you’ve those are your clippers. I know. But now that I see them compared to they’re not cleaned either by the way. I got I’m the only one that used you’ll get ringorm. I hope not. Ringworm. That means Brad had at one point. Um, yeah. I I This looks too looks too long to me. So, wait. So, I don’t I feel like a a a beard trimmer one is equivalent to like a normal clipper. So, what you’re saying, why don’t we just give them the what? Take the guard off and just do it that way. Because I had said that my fiance is a little worried because we have halfway Kyle. Here we go. Yeah. No, no, no. But I I said ain’t no I’m going to deliver. But she said if you deliver, you’re on the couch the whole week. I want you to be like stroke on the couch. On the couch the whole delivering is the question. It’s a It’s the same thing as Brad. Wait a minute. What are you doing on his It’s different. We We can be the judge of that. Maybe we start with a three and we’ll know right away. Oh, it it cut hardly any hair or Oh, yeah. That guy down pretty far. I just Let’s just get this going right now because uh Do you cut the widow speaker? Is that just going to be there, too? It’s just going to be there. All right. So, no, we’re not lining me up. Oh, yeah. Line them up. Clean them up. I did that one time when I was So, I had Share Chambers uh from uh from Rine, I believe. Share cut my hair one time on the road and he was like, “We got to get rid of the wid widow’s peak, man.” I was like, “No, like that’s like it’s my identity. I’m a white guy. It’s a widow’s peak.” He sh He lined it up a straight blade line me up and then the widow’s peak started growing in all weird and it just looked even weirder if you line up a white guy. Yeah, I’m sure. Can I bring you behind the scenes of Stro’s haircut for a second of his widow’s peak? Stro, why did the widow’s peak gone? So, I lined Stro up. Pretty crispy, too, I might add. And that’s because uh he found one of his girlfriend’s razors underneath her bathroom sink. Did you clean it? Oh, it was brand new. It was brand new. I I would not I’m a hygienic barber over here. No infections, nothing. And so, I took I took her razor and lined them up pretty smooth. Well, let’s get it going. Let’s get it going. And uh what we need to figure out while I’m getting buzzed here is when we are going to execute Kyle getting his fingernails painted in blue and orange. Wait a minute. What? And wearing bears gear for a week while Brad wears a suit and I wear underwear. Wait a minute. Equal punishment. That is so equal. I can’t even believe it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I got to put on nail polish like Caleb Williams. Yes. And then I got to wear bare stuff. And y’all think that that’s equal? Him actually being a decent normal human being, putting on draws is his punishment. You putting on a suit like many people do, like you used to all the time is your punishment. And y’all making me paint my damn nails and then I got to wear bare stuff. This is this is cruel, unusual punishment. You guys are becoming mature individuals. This is just punishment for me. Here’s here’s what we thought. We thought we’re thinking to ourselves, what is like the antithesis? Go ahead, Tony. Get started. Now you guys you guys keep chatting amongst yourself. I’m I’m all ears. Make sure this is okay. Length. He’s distracting. He’s deflecting over here. Why don’t you TC? Why don’t you take it right? Military style. What I need to know is if I should turn my mic off or not while y’all are talking. That did nothing. Yeah, we’re going to have to go short. Two on the sides, I said. But we start in the middle. Get it. Get it going. Let’s leave anything taken off the top. It’s got to look like my head. That’s That’s what it’s got to look like. Nothing. No, it’s not enough. That’s not enough. That’s a low cut. Yeah, that is. That’s not enough. Hell no. Yours feel coming off. Significantly short. Now you guys are gonna significantly What are we talking about? I see the hair coming. He looks like a frier right now. On top. And uh take that off. It’s not working. I The hair is landing on me. There are chunks. I see Tony getting the chunks off. That’s because your hair was so long to begin with. That’s not a buzz cut. That’s just a tighter haircut. That’s all it Are you thinning? Are you thinning? No. Look at the middle of his head. Look like he’s thinning a little bit. No, that’s not It’s not nearly short enough. No, it No, this this would be halfway, Ben. No, man. We We need both. Is there a two and a half? Two. What? You You could do a two and you could lengthen the blade. Wait, did you Did you Did you shorten that? Ben is stressed out right now. You’re okay. I went with the longest three. Why don’t you do the shortest three? Do do a for effect. Do do the shortest three now. I still don’t think this is going to be enough. All right. No, do a long two, man. Bump that man. Just just take all that gar stuff off and cut his head. We do not. If you’re watching on YouTube, this would be skin tight. Yeah, there would be no no trace of anything. The shortest three. I think the shortest three is a good compromise. Let’s see. Let’s see. Let’s see. Let’s see. Let’s see. So, anyway, as Ben’s getting it cut, Kyle, here’s what we thought. We thought about what’s the antithesis of each of our personalities. Bennett’s to wear underwear. Me, I I hate wearing dress up clothes. And you hate the Bears. And you hate the Bears. So, it’s perfect. It’s what the KBN Nation was willing to donate for. And the idea of you with painted fingernails and bear stuff for a week, a week that we’re all going to do this in solidarity. Mind you, Ben’s going to wear for the week. I’m going to wear the suit. You’re going to wear bear stuff. We’re all going to do it together. So, you’re okay. I I’ve got the worst end of this. This is even close. It’s not even Should have been here. We should have been here. Brad went here last year, but his mound is beautiful. I’m sure it is beautiful. But the the difference is you guys talked about it individually. You don’t know what a bumpy mound means without context. Real quick, you’ve been back for 10 minutes. You’ve said the word mound eight times because man, that sun got my mound bumpy. I don’t like it. How much did you say mound over your vacation to baby girl? Uh, quite a bit cuz I was cool the first couple days. I said, “Baby, what is what is this?” I said, “Baby, look at my mouth. Where’s these bumps?” She said, “That’s heat. That’s what the sweat.” I said, “The sweat. The sweat.” I said, “My mouth used to be smooth and now when I go on, it’s like braille.” Oh my gosh. Like I’m breathing. It’s disturbing. I know. I’m not here to run the show while I’m getting a haircut. Are you guys good? Yeah, I know. No, it is. I don’t like it at all. Is Ben’s hair short enough? No. Ben Ben’s getting haircut. Ben is just teasing and smiling cuz he know he’s getting away. I’m literally looking at it live. This is a buzz cut. This is not a Should I go move over next to Ben and see? Do I need to come in there too? Ben, this is a This is a good haircut. This is not a buzz cut. Make sure you guys go to ESPN on YouTube. That’s not Ben. That’s not a That’s not low enough. Mine is shorter than Ben’s. Yeah. No, this isn’t This isn’t short, Ben. No, that’s way too long. I got a big bump right there, Tony. Yeah, apparently. No, this is No, that’s not even close. Not even close. I don’t see your scalp. His hair is about double the length of mine in strokes right now. That’s not true. No, it is it is true. Ben, take it downward. Tony, we’re going to need to do it too. Just press it against his head and just go back. And he’s getting like royal treatment. If we remember on Thursday or Wednesday, Tony cut mine with a beard trimmer and it took a half an hour because I had product in my hair was getting caught all along the way. Ben’s getting the royal treatment. Hang on. What I do got to know most importantly here is am I starting to ball from the sides like Brad? No. Oh wow. Wow. Oh wow. See I think the hair is receding but B is thinning. Yeah. Ben your hair is thinning on top in the middle. Happens to the best of us. Is it? Yeah. He’s got to go shorter. This is This isn’t even college basketball. Gosh. Yeah. I want college basketball. This is a trim. He needs to get bugs. College basketball was a half. You ain’t getting no half here. You were a half. Yeah. What? Wait a minute. Talk about wait a minute. Talk about wait a minute. Can somebody explain this to me? Cuz you know I I have black hair so it’s a little bit. So when he says college basketball bin was a half. Why aren’t we doing that right now? Why is he getting away with doing that? Because he’s getting away and it’s not even going to be it will be shorter and stro and Brad. Wait my question. Your hair won’t grow back in couple months. You love living life on the edge. Do you know? Okay. Y’all not going to gaslight me. You love life on the edge. May June dog, you fine. What are we doing here? You fine. You complain. You’re complaining. You’re complaining about your punishment. You’re be Ben, your punishment is getting a nice free haircut. My punishment is having to put on that put trip. All right, I’ll meet you halfway. Give me the two. Give me the two. Give me the two. That a boy. Just finished. Yeah. No. Cut his ass lower on the text. Let me make sure there’s a two. On the text line, Scott says, “Your hair ain’t or excuse me, Ben’s hair isn’t short enough. Number one needs to happen.” M. We’re getting at least a two on YouTube as well. All right. I shortest two. One and a half. A two. That’s a two. He’s got a two. You guys remember Beyonce scares me. I am doing this out. I do it. No. No. No. Ben’s going to fight. No. I And I would literally then like not wash my hands, go to the bathroom, and touch you all the time. Like I don’t want to start this fight. Oh, there’s nothing even coming off. coming off. Nothing’s coming off the man’s head. There’s a good amount coming. Line one. Stro, do your job. What is happening? Then we we got to go then. One and a half on the sides. I forgot to mention 8009903776 is the carveless talking text line. This is more. You can see this beautiful haircut on YouTube, ESPN Milwaukee, and ESPN Madison. We’re going to take a quick break. Jiannis posted do the bear stuff. No, no, no. You got to do that anyway. 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You’re listening to Kyle Bron Nortman on ESPN Wisconsin and the ESPN Wisconsin app. Oh yeah. All right. on YouTube at ESPN Milwaukee and at ESPN Madison. We did go shorter and lower. I believe that even the group of KBN and KBN Nation has accepted this length of the buzz cut. And as I’m looking at it on video, we’ll have nothing but no choice but to accept the length of this buzz cut. How is getting a nice haircut punishment all of a sudden? I’m confused. That’s like me getting a line in. This isn’t a haircut. This is a buzz cut. This is a haircut. You’ve worn your Everybody here. I I don’t know about Stro. Maybe he was. Both of you have had buzz cut. I’ve seen Brad with the buzz cut. I’ve seen you with the buzz. And And listen, listen. And I know you don’t value coming to work no more like that, Brad, because you’re putting on a damn suit as a punishment. So, I know you don’t value the way you look. And him, I you know, he’s been so he’ll do whatever. There’s a reason why we gravitated away from the buzz cut is because we are now grown. Look better without the buzz. Significantly better with the buzzcut. I mean, Lexi looks at me and she has to like grapple with the reality of me having a buzz cut every time she looks at me. Looks like my daughter 15 years ago. She probably won’t recognize you. She may cry. She may that big of a change. She’ll recognize him. I want her to kind of run from you for him initially for a second. I’m going to put on my headphones so we can hear from Robert in Milwaukee. Robert, you’re up on the car. Let’s talk text line. Hi guys. I’ve listened to you for a while and every time you guys make a bet or anything, you guys end up spending more time arguing about the rules and what the payment is. It’s like watching kids on the playground when they want to make teams and play kickball. By the time the rules are decided and the teams are decided, recess is over. Yeah. I want you guys know each other. I don’t think anything’s been more true in my entire life from a caller on this show. Beautiful analogy in recess. Yeah. I I I I want recess to be over. Is did Tony walk out? Am I done? I’m done. Uh I don’t know what that I guess. Oh my god, I’m buzzed. That’s pretty. This is crazy. Oh my gosh. It’s not even that bad, bro. I don’t His hair is thinning. I don’t know if it’s going to grow back in time. All right. No, no, no. Stop. Bump’s all bad, as Kyle would say. I I am a little bit concerned. I did see it very early on. Well, it is what it is. Do you need to get a haircut often? Uh your hair. No, my hair grows really fast. It’s just like I I Wait, if it grows really fast, why not get the buzz cut? I just need a buzz cut. No, you need a even more. And plus, Brian Erlacer had some. He grew his hair back. He got some He grew it back. It was implants. Well, he can get an implant for his wedding. Hair implants. Crazy idea. Yeah. Oh, like Homer used to a toupe. Yeah. Yeah, you can do something like that. Golly. Wow. Is that alcohol? No, it’s not alcohol. Water on his head. No, you supposed to put alcohol after you get a haircut. Y’all don’t do that to make sure it’s clean. I’ve never had to use a straight line. Never heard of that. Um Oh, something that I saw. Cultural. Have the X Files ready here, Stro. It’s Kyle Brust and Orman across ESPN Wisconsin, a freshly buzzed Ben Brust, a buzzed Brad Norton, a buzzed Alex Stro, and a beautiful looking Kyle Wallace right off of vacation. I agreed with that. who’s going to be wearing um Caleb Williams gear and blue and orange painted fingernails as part of his punishment of the $5,000 that we raised for the Mac Fund. Now, I got to shift gears here because I I’m not good with emojis and Giannis and Numbo posted something on Instagram. What does it mean people? What does it mean? Brad, you are our body language press conference reader. I know there’s a prayers emoji and a salute emoji. Salute is to the city. He says win for the cream city. In the picture, what does it all mean? Basil, what does that post mean to you? 8009903776. And if you haven’t seen it, it’s Giannis in a post win for the cream city where he simply has prayer emojis and a salute in the caption. This is where you need to look not only one, not only two, but multiple layers deep when it comes to Giannis and decoding exactly what’s going on with what message he’s trying to deliver. See, when I look at this, here’s what I see. I see praying hands emoji. Salute emoji. praying hands emoji. Well, well, well. That could be a thank you. That could be a thank you to the city of Milwaukee. Thank you for what he’s already done. Thank you for what’s coming. Who knows? The salute. Now, a salute. I could view that as a as a symbol of allegiance, of loyalty. Could also be a see you later. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. I’m out of here. Now, let’s think about win for the Kareem City. Win for the Kareem City is the warm-up Jiannis High is on at the moment. Now, he’s already won for the cream city, so he could be pointing to mission accomplished back in 2021. Nothing left for him to do here, potentially saying he’s moving on. Or it could mean he is projecting more wins for the cream city with Giannis at the helm. What else is he doing? He’s looking down. He’s downcast when he’s probably the national anthem’s going on. High emotional moment. He could be sad. This could be sad Giannis potentially leaving the Milwaukee Bucks. Or it could be Giannis at peace knowing that right home is right here in Milwaukee and he knows that more wins for the Cream City are on its way. Very cryptic. I’m left confused. I don’t think it’s that cryptic. Ben Bruss, Brad Norton, Kyle Wallace. You think it’s cryptic, Kyle? Listen, I’m going to tell you this right now. If you are a Milwaukee Bucks fan, it’s too soon to get excited. So, if you like me, you look at this, don’t read nothing into it because the Brad’s absolutely right. It could mean I’m saluting to the fans as in I love y’all. And it could be I’m saluting to y’all. Say, I’m getting off this [ __ ] because this [ __ ] is trash. So, I for one, as a Milwaukee Bucks fan, I’m not read nothing into this. I’m not going to get too emotionally high. I’m not going to get too emotionally low. All I’m going to do is That’s real rich for you to say. I’m going do I’mma do as Yiannis did. I’mma pray. I’mma pray on it. I’mma pray on I hope Yiannis, I hope you have it in your heart to stay with the Milwaukee Bucks, but I’m not reading to I saw people getting excited about Don’t get excited. Do not get excited. The offseason hasn’t started. It just started for you. For those who want him to leave, they’re likely fans not of the Milwaukee Bucks that are in the comments saying, “Oh, he’s saluting. He’s gone.” And for those who are Bucks fans, I think are looking at it as, “Oh, look, he’s showing the Cream City win for the Cream City. praying that he like he wants to be here, continue to do these things with the Bucks. I think that this is Giannis saying I love the city of Milwaukee. I am showing you I want to win with the Cream City, but it’s not it’s out of my control now. You need to prove to me that I should continue to want to win for the Cream City. I don’t want to leave. I don’t want to do that. But there is a long off season that has not even begun. As Kyle mentioned, we the only ones fishing us and a couple other teams, but the season’s still going on right now. Oh, by which those conversations are happening though, right? I mean, immediately. Maybe not Wednesday morning. Jiannis is somewhere else, man. Listen, when people salute like that, it’s been it’s been real. Out of here. Salute when you leaving. I You think he’s leaving? No, you salute when you’re leaving. He saluted. He salute. I You’re on the side that saluting is aara. I’m on the side to say, “Listen, Milwaukee Bucks fans, don’t y’all look at this picture and think, yeah, Giannis love the city. All them people say he No, no, don’t look stupid. I’m telling y’all this right now. Don’t look stupid. Giannis don’t know what he doing yet, but I know this this this early him posting this. This mean Giannis mean business. Something’s on his mind. Something is spinning. Giannis didn’t need to do this, but he hears all the chatter. He has something inside. Giannis put this out on purpose because he is sending a message to somebody. And that somebody is probably John Horse and the Bucks ownership group. It’s not to you, Brad. It’s not to you, Ben. It ain’t to me. That is put out there for the message. The message is, listen, y’all better get this figured out. Adam chimes in on the Carlos talking text line. He says, “Pray for a return. Salute for loyalty.” Yeah, that’s what we hope. But think about what he could have used. He could have used the buck emoji, the animal, the uh you like the the fist, the the arm. Look, he’s got to keep all options open because we all could admit the future for the Milwaukee Bucks right now is Listen, it’s trash at the end of the day. Listen, this Bucks team, it finally came. It hit me. I was on an island sitting there having a great time. You know what hit me? Watching that Bucks game where they just basically fumbled away. I mean, literally, there’s Ben could have coached a fifth grade team to do better to close out a game than the Bucks did in game five. And this team sucks. We suck. Kyle Kosma sucks. Ben was right. He’s trash. He sucks. This team, this team sucks. If you look at this basketball team, who you going to go watch other than Giannis? Going to go watch Brook Lopez, old ass. I didn’t need to watch him. He played like 15 minutes a game. Exactly. Y’all going to watch Gary Trent? Yeah. Okay, Gary. He hit all the threes and then Gary with the damn ball out of bounds. Oh, what did you do? I don’t put that on Gary, but I still know you. You don’t put it on Gary. AJ Green peed his pants. I don’t care if he peed his pants. You better catch it all. Listen, I was literally at a bar and I hell got up and moved. I said, “This is terrible. This is terrible.” I say, “Oh, I mean, it was an epic collapse, but yes, the like they don’t have any picks. The team sucks. I tried telling you all this. Why don’t you ever listen to me?” Because I’m a fan. I’m a fanatic. Ben, you know what fanatics are? They’re crazy people. Yes. You said Kyle Kusman was going to score 17 points in game. That was such a good quote. I wasn’t AI. I was on something else. And then he went and put up zeros across the board. Listen, the team sucks. Yiannis looked at this roster. Yiannis, listen. He’s He’s saluting everybody cuz I can’t go back on the court. He can’t be saluting everybody cuz everyone doesn’t do service. Dame ain’t coming back and it ain’t work. The experiment didn’t work. We got to be real. We have to be real. Okay. So, what’s the worst thing that’s happening to the Bucks right now? The fact that they extended John Horst, which was very weird. Stupid. Damen Lillard got injured. So you can’t trade him next year and he’s just out and going to be rehabbing so he can sign his player option for $63 million or Kyle Koosma or other. What’s the worst thing the Bucks got going for them right now? John Horst, Kyle Kosma, Damen’s injury or just the lack of assets? 8009903776 the carpless talking text line stro if you can put that in somewhat of a poll format I bet. I I mean if you y like for real Milwaukee listen KBN Nation I love y’all and I love Giannis but if you’re Giannis on the Kumbbo if you have a you’re on at an organization you’ve been at an organization you won a championship and after winning the championship your team goes downhill downhill downhill and then your second best coworker your second best teammate is out all next year and they’re aging and getting old in a business that you got to be a young man’s game for. Come on now. Listen, we suck and we’re going to suck. Like Giannis is the only thing we have going for us. Nobody else in that ro KPJ. Now I ain’t getting excited about KPJ. Hell no. I’m tell this right now. We are not good. And if Giannis leaves, I ain’t mad at him for it. If Giannis leaves, Kyle wouldn’t be mad. That’s the thing. I don’t think the conversation would anyone be mad. I think the conversation is what what like get that out of your head. We need solutions. We need sales pitches. We need reasons for him to to not go into the front office and be the bad guy because the front office is never going to say, “Yeah, we’re going to trade you.” It’s going to have to be honest. Ain’t no solutions. Well, I’m tell Kyle have some level of optimism. The fan optimism. Does Dane count against the salary cap next year even though he’s hurt? I think so. Okay, that’s what $47 million. That’s a big chunk. What you What you going Oh, you just magically going to be able to sign more people? You got What you going to do? You traded away Chris Middleton and you still got the contract of Kyle Kosma. We’re poor. We’re broke and we suck. There is no worse thing to me than Paul. That was the dumb and dumber. We are. No, listen. We’re living. No, for real. The Bucks are living paycheck to paycheck. Our pets heads are falling off. No, we we suck. We’re not winning the championship. It’s over. So Giannis can either waste his time here or he can go somewhere else. If he wastes his time here, salute to you. Gosh, I hate how much you’re telling the truth. I’ve been maybe I’ve been blinding myself from the truth because I don’t want to believe that it. All right, everyone go on record right now. It is It is March 5th, 2025. What percent chance do you put Giannis? 2026. March May 5th. Okay, you threw me off. I said, “Oh, you trying to It is May 5th, 2025. Everyone put a percentage on Giannis being a Milwaukee Buck next year.” Man, y’all got quiet quick. 96. I’m going to do the same thing that I did with the Green Bay Packers first round wide receiver. 75% chance he’s on the roster for the Milwaukee Bucks. 96. 96 from Alex Stro. Kyle Wallace that he’s on the roster. I think there’s a 48% chance he’s on the roster. 48’s very specific. I mean, shout out to 184. I’m gonna go uh Sure. I’m going to go 69. Nasty. That haircut got you feeling fresh, huh? Well, my lady texted and she said she said, “Ooh, I know what emojis.” Oh my gosh, you look cute. I actually love it. I know what emojis you be sending. I’m just going to have to do what you did to me last week. She’s lying to you. No, no, I got I got five exclamation points. Oh, wow. Five exclamation points to like you did to me last week. She’s lying to you. Well, then Tony said that she actually thought you were cute or she actually thought you look cute with your haircut. Can’t wait to go home tonight. Oh, wow. Kyle Russ, send them emojis to her. Let her know what it is. Um, which salute prayers or which ones? Splat. Kyle, you’re so bad. Um, Alex show, do you have a good becoming relevant? Yes. All right, then that’s next. 69. I like that number. This is Kyle Brustin Nortman. When I’m again doing the pack arena and as a shareholder when I’m sizing up my ring size right now. One pack of two packer three packer ring. Hey on ESPN and the ESPN app. Why is life better with American Family Insurance? Because every policy comes with something very special. 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Oh, what a terrible terrible thing. No, my hair is different, but Okay, so you can call us out and then you’re just above us cuz you took 15 years to grow out luscious dreads. I have the worst end of this deal. Y’all sitting I’m not going to put on no damn bear stuff and be like, “Oh, I look so handsome in this blue and ugly orange.” No, y’all over here looking in the mirror getting texts from y’all women talking about they ready for y’all. Meanwhile, I got to sit here and put on this ugly blue and green or blue and uh blue and orange. Kyle, we had we had two things to do. Shave I have to mow somebody’s two acre lawn. You have one thing to do. One I got nail I I’ll choose one. It’s part of one like No, my nails. Painted nails. My nails different cut my hair. wearing whitey tighties for a week and will be cutting a 2 acre lawn. Now, are you you got to self-propel or you got to ride? I ain’t riding nothing. Oh, wow. That’s going to take a minute. Oh, wow. Many minutes. That is punishment. That do you know how much two acres is? I don’t. Yes. I don’t think you understand what two acres is. You going to be out there for hours. A lot. They said four hours. I’ll be out there. I’d say at least. I’d say at least. Try try to do this earlier in the summer before it’s 85° and you’re just sweating away. Ben Ben, you’re you’re not going to do that in one. You’re going to have to stop. How you going to be at this man house all day? Daniel the landscaper, if you’re out there, 8009903776. Let me know how long it takes you on the riding lawnmower versus the walking lawn. You can’t let him ride the riding lawnmower cuz you know he too different. Something bad may happen. Who? Me? Yeah. You wouldn’t know what to do with one of those zeroturn ones with the joysticks and the be all a mess. Going like 10 miles per hour, jerking, flying off. I mean, my guy Nate who does it on a on a great Brad doesn’t even know. He’s just pointing the guy he pays to cut his lawn. He does it in probably an hour 20 on a massive fast zeroturn tractor. Hour. How many acres are you? I’m like 1.8. Oh, and you have slightly more. You’re going to be out there forever. How much is an acre? A lot. What do you mean? Like how how big is an acre? I mean square miles. What are you trying to figure out? I don’t know. I don’t know. Somebody Somebody Half a football field maybe. 43,560 ft. Somebody put this in layman’s terms like um I don’t know. Yeah, like a football field or a soccer field. It’s about like it’s about uh 200 feet by 200 feet. That would be about a square. That still doesn’t like help. But that’s not that’s also not perfect. How about 60 65 yards by 65 yards? One football field is 1.32 acres. So you’re going to be doing like one and a half football fields. That didn’t seem bad. More than that. I’ll knock that out. I’ll knock that out in two hours. So you won’t quality back. Yeah. What are you going to do? Also, Daniel the Landscaper, where do you live? Oh, I hope far. Madison area. Oh, that’s so far to go cut. I wonder if back I wonder if his property is undulated. If there’s like uphill and things like that, this man say undulated. Come on now. What the hell is that? Come on now. Undulated. It’s like Yeah. Hill. No, I I do know undulated. I know undulated. I know undulated. Yes, I do. What the definition is? The definition of undulated? a surface as a a surface that is up and down windiness. It’s not flat. He’s That’s pretty much right. I wonder if passing grade saying to present away the appearance. Thank you. Yes, that’s exactly what it’s Why do I know? Yeah, it’s a golf term. Undulated. He said, why do I know? I was like, why? I was like, why do I know undulated? I was like, I know this. It’s a golf term. It’s about the greens. So that would, you know, be a little bit more extra work for Ben. You know what’s gonna happen now? This is your fault. He Now, instead of saying it’s going to be a rough ride ahead, it’s gonna be very undulated mode. Add this to the list. It’s bound to be one of the It’s going to be a rocky road. Ben’s going to say, “No, it’s going to be undulated road full of unulations.” Undulated season for the Packers. Uh, this show’s got a lot of undulations going on around here. Uh, spell undulated. Undulated. Where’s my pen? This is going to be tough. Undulated. It’s like a spelling bee, huh? Undulated. All right. Um, are we all spelling it here? U N Unju already. Unel gelated. G- E L. Really? U N G I L A T. All right. Spell it already. There’s no J or G. It’s U N D. Oh, it’s undeated. Undeated. Oh, undulated. Unulated. Unilated. Unidilated. Undelated is how it’s spelled. Undulated. There’s no G at all. No G at all. Undated. Oh, but he know the word. Wait, wait. So, we were Have the Have Have the Say the word. How you do that? Undulated. What D sound like G? But it’s like undulated. No way. Come on, lady. 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You’re listening to Kyle Bran Nortman, KBN on ESPN, ESPN Milwaukee on YouTube, and the ESPN app. All right. Now I have friends and family getting in my uh getting in my phone telling me that I made a big mistake and that it’s not going to grow out the way I want it to for the wedding in August. And I’m I’m I’m saying I’m not going to fall for it, but now I’m starting to get nervous cuz I just just got a buzz cut for the Mac Fund. Are you guys going to support me or are you guys going to make me feel self-conscious? No, I mean if it doesn’t grow back like it’s I’m not an expert in how white boys hair grows, but I do. Why you say white boys like that? Men? Yeah. Well, white men. I’m sorry. Sorry offended boys. But I’ll say this. I’m sure there’s like some type of, you know, as Stro said before something to make you look luxurious. You’ve already been given the seal of approval from your fiance. Five exclamation marks, so you’re good to go. Yeah, just for now. For now. Unless you think it’s a sympathy text. No, no, it’s not a sympathy. But as I look at YouTube, Eddie asp I’m I’m shocked a that it’s this short, and I’m shocked B that the sides uh of my forehead are a little bit less receding. That was the biggest surprise for me, too, is whoa, my hair has gotten really retreating back in my skull. Boy, sucks. It does suck. I feel old. Y’all better get ready. If anything, 10 years from now, the longer hair made me look younger, more for sure. For sure. You could hide. You could hide the balding areas. I can’t relate all these inches I got. Cuz I look at Alex Stro, a 25year-old hairline. That thing is that thing is full frontal. It’s good to go. It is good. Tiny forehead. All right, let’s hear from Alex Stro on Kyle Bron Orman with Becoming Relevant. Hey, Mr. Irrelevant. It’s time to become relevant. Stro’s time to shine on KBN starts now. I’m looking at my paper. I got like undulated spelled out in 14 different ways. I’m so stunned. There’s no J or G. Stun. I’m saying that word. All right, fellas. You ever hear the phrase, “Revenge is a dish best served cold?” Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. So, I’ve done some research and it seems to me like that phrase originated by an author named Eugene Sue in Matild. However, 19 1846 novel, by the way, that’s right. Right around when Wisconsin became a state. Very good. But prior to that, it was a French phrase and it sounded a little something like this. According to AI stroke vengeance on plaque quis fud vengeance on plaque quisban fud that isn’t French it doesn’t sound French. It sounds like a German trying to speak French. I am German. Exactly. But I didn’t actually record that. I used AI to record that. AI needs to work on that too. Yeah. Well, vengeance has done plaque twice and murd so bad. It’s so sturdy. The French would be very upset the way you just they’re already mad about everything. The French language is beautiful. There’s nothing beautiful about AI strobe speaking French. Well, vengeance has done plaque twice a mantra by Freud. I don’t know why that’s so that actually is really funny. Why I bring up revenge is a dish best served cold is we’ve got some revenge series coming up in the Western Conference in the NBA playoffs. You know what I’m talking about, fellas. We’ve got the Golden State Warriors, the seven seed, taking on the Minnesota Timberwolves, the six seed. Jimmy Butler, a member of the Warriors, of course, great beef with the Timberwolves. He played there for a while. At one of his final practices, he said, “Give me all the scrubs. I’m going to beat your ass.” And he did just that. And he did it. Wow. Cool. Have you never heard that story? No. What? You got to get on it. Like, so Carl Anthony Towns and Jimmy Butler had like this beef. So Cat had all the starters minus Jimmy. Jimmy took all the reserves and smoked the starters in practice. Jeff Ts story about this. He walks out and says, “He the bums. Y’all want me to play or something like that?” He walked out. He literally was late to practice, came in, got the girls, walked out after winning, and didn’t come back. And he never returned. That was his last time in the building. I don’t know. But it’s something it was it was like it was it was like we’re moving on from this. He can’t he can’t come back in and play with the scrubs. But also in the Western Conference, you have Russell Westbrook, Mr. Thunder, a member of the Denver Nuggets, taking on his former team, the Oklahoma City Thunder. Now, something I’ve learned in life, fellas. Play it. It’s not what I was going to say, but well, vengeance has done plaque quis. Oh gosh, the way it like fight and Freud. Bid and Freud. Bomb Freud. Something else I’ve learned in life, fellas, is mother nature knows a little bit of something something. Oh, okay. Mother nature knows. So, just a quick search today figuring out what the temperatures were in those cities today in Minneapolis. Beautiful day out Minneapolis. 76°. Oh, what? What? You know why that is? Because revenge is a dish best served cold. Only 73° in the Bay Area. Warriors. Now you hear me out here. I’m trying to hear that. Three° difference. We’re going seven. Warriors and seven over the Timberwolves. Okay. That’s what mother nature’s telling me. How did How did we get there? Now we look at Denver and Oklahoma City. The Thunder. Oklahoma City 6° warmer right now than Denver. 70° in Oklahoma City, 64° in Denver. It’s Denver in six. Denver. What am I northern states? Is everyone just as confused as me? The colder the colder places. The colder places are going to win the series. But how did you get to seven? Uh because there’s a threederee difference, meaning we’re going three games over four. Seven games. And then here there’s a six degree difference, which means that game that series is going six. Give me Denver. You have different rules for each weather. How did you think about that? Like Denver in six, Golden State in seven. That is your Western Conference finals. Spoiler alert. Why did he That is such a leap. Well, vengeance has done plaque twice and murd. That’s how your brain was operating when you came up with this. You should just asked AI what they think the results are going to be. AI doesn’t know anything. Mother Nature and revenge knows everything. Speaking of revenge, cuz Russell got revenge on the Clippers, too. The way he told him, “Send them home.” Oh my gosh. Do you guys remember when I asked him if he had a good becoming relevant? He scrambled. Well, this happened last week while you were Why did you look at the weather at each of these? This happened last week. Yes, I I I get it. Dish serve cold weather. It’s not even that cold. Vengeance on platform. It’s actually warm weather. Yeah. Why is 51° here? Um Kyle, we asked Roof the other day if he had a good becoming relevant. And I was like, “Yeah, yeah, I got it.” And then we kept asking him questions. We’re like, “That sucks.” And then we realized that if we turn it into 100 strokes versus one gorilla and we could turn it into a thousand strokes versus one gorilla. It was much better and it was a lot better. So I think we need a new rule. Stro has to plur Freud. He has to share his becoming relevance moving forward. That was incredible. H how is how is this the one you’re taking an audit on? Think about all the crappy scrambles I’ve had. Love and football chimes in. Sorry I’m late. I’m trying to figure out how 73° is cold. For real. So you just took a blanket statement that the stop trying to understand Bon Floyd. I can’t keep on going on without fully understanding the mindset behind this. Don’t ask questions. You give them a platform to continue the colder cities. Revenge cold, right? So you connect the dots there, right? Revenge a dish best. I wish I had the button to send us to break. 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Here’s Kyle Wallace, Ben Brust, and Brad Norton. The people have spoken. Dave from Aaron or Tony and Aaron chimes in. If this is one of the better Mr. irrelevance, I’m sure glad I normally missed the segment. Producer of Jen Gave and Chewy, Josh Deaggio, chimes in. I think Stro earned himself a weak ban. This cannot go unpunished. It’s just the truth, man. Like, that was horrible. Yeah, it wasn’t great. I didn’t come back from vacation for this stroke. That was I kind of like the conspiracy theory, though. I’m just telling you right now. I’m starting to connect. I’m just telling you right now. Then you’re as dumb as him and you don’t want to be on that side. Ben Bruss, Kyle Wallace, Brad Norton with Stroer on the show. Kyle Brussen Norton across ESPN Wisconsin 8009903776. That is the cardless talking text line. Make sure you listen on the new ESPN Wisconsin app and then when you listen back to the podcast, if you missed anything, just listen to 2:00 to 245 and then skip right to where you are right now. I’m just saying right now, if the Warriors, if everything you said happens and wins, you guys all owe me something nice. Sure, take you out to dinner. Got that on record. Sound good? Until then, becoming relevant will be vetted every day before we go to it. Um, outside of Matthew Golden, are you even excited about the guys that the Green Bay Packers drafted? Kyle, you missed a lot. Um, obviously you were with us Thursday and Friday at the NFL draft. We see the picks. You’re a film guy. You’re a scout guy. I saw a post from the Green Bay Packers that they’re looking for two scouting interns. I know you applied for that. Did you? 10 years ago. Wow. Oh, Tim. Yeah. I don’t know if you I don’t know if you want to jump back into that pool, but outside of Matthew Golden, is anyone Is anyone exciting you guys? Is anyone Is anyone getting you going? It was end of rookie mini camp. Anthony Belton, big fella. Oh, yeah. Big big fella. Yeah. Brinsen, dackle, Georgia. Yeah. Uh, yeah. For me, um, this ain’t goody cooking. uh you know again we going to see on the field and hopefully I’m wrong but after the last two drafts we felt a little excited. They were like, “Okay, these guys had productive colleges, you know, productive college careers, and we felt like those last two draft classes after that.” I don’t know about you, Schro. I know you’re a real Packer backer as well, but after the 2022 draft, excuse me, after the 2023 draft class, you were probably like, “Okay, I feel like we got something here, right? We got two nice tight ends as well.” Like there was there was a little bit of juice there. And then on top of that, last season, you were like, “Okay, I feel we got some Edin Cooper.” He was a guy that was the best linebacker. and we felt like, okay, we got some guys here. This year, I looked at it and I was like, watch some film and I don’t have the same feeling. I feel like cooked in the first round with Matthew Golden and everything hinges on his success. When I look at the rest of the draft class, KBN Nation, the Packers didn’t do too great. You got a wide receiver back everybody’s excited about because he’s 6’4 in Williams. Yeah. You know what they said about Seavon Williams? What he can’t do? Catch. Can’t catch. What’s his job? catch yet is a problem. What else? Golden did have some drop issues earlier in his career. I have no idea how you were sitting here right now and saying you were all jacked up about last year’s draft class and aren’t about this year’s draft class. What What about this? Well, you I bet you were staring up Jordan Morgan’s tape last year going, “Oh, baby, they totally got a guy they needed in the first round.” You were looking at Javon Bullard, who didn’t even end up being a starting safety. Javon Bullard was solid first and foremost in college. He was a playmaker and in this year in the NFL, he wasn’t a bum. I mean, he’s room for improvement, but I’m not sitting here saying, “Oh, two versatile athletic receivers and a and a big ass offensive linebacker to add to this offense.” Tro, stop it. What do you mean versatile? Yeah, versatile. Get the ball out the back field. He’s a wide receiver. Which one you ask? Which? Yeah, I’m not talking. Savon played every position in college, including lining up on the back. Yeah, because he couldn’t dominate at one. Savon Williams and this is from the NFL.com in his like bio, right? The different the difference between a siren song and pot of gold for him will rest in his development draft and develop for the Green Bay Packers and the creativity of his play caller. Now, do you believe in Matt Laflur? Oh, well, I do believe his skills, his strengths, his speed off the charts. Yeah, his capabilities are off the charts. His potential. He’s I’m just very concerned about the fact that we’re hoping we’re getting something that we’re not. He can’t run routes right now. He can’t catch the football out the back field. Cool. Cordurell Patterson. That’s what they said he’s going to be. Corel Cordell. Cordel. He said it’s so wrong. I didn’t get it right. It’s like him and Debo. That’s That’s Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Debo. We think y’all think you’re getting Debo Samuel. Maybe you’re not. How do you know? You’re not KBN. You’re not getting Debo could catch. He had highlights in college of catching the football and cooking cats. This boy, he could be good, but I’m just saying it’s not good when people say you can’t run routes and you’re a wide receiver and you need your coach to be creative to get you the football for reverses. But Kyle sweep Goody did everything that we wanted him to do. He went after receiver. Huge position of need. He got he basically lowered or he got a more depth in the offensive line. Anthony Belton was a mer in college. Absolutely. But he ain’t he ain’t replacing Rasheed Walker. How do you know that? Aiden Hutcherson will cook his ass. He will cook him. He ain’t stopping A. He ain’t How does How do you know that? How can you declare that? Does Kyle come back from vacation and hate the Packers? Watch the film. Anthony Belt, he’s a big boy. He ain’t going to move him inside. I know damn well you weren’t in the Caribbean watching Anthony Belton film at NC State. What the hell are you talking about? Had a lot of time. Do you hate the Packers? Does Kyle Wallace hate the Packers? 800993776. I do like uh Oliver’s motor. But here’s the thing, fellas. His motor. This this draft, I’m telling you this right now. Stupid pin coladas deciding whether or not somebody is a good motor. I had a lot of I had a lot of time on my hand. I’m just saying Packer Nation, Cameian Nation, we have to see. But I’m just comparing it to the last draft classes. The one thing that we said about Goody, we’ve been talking about the fact outside of the first round, what has Goody done recently in the draft? He’s been better outside of the first round. He’s been cooking outside of the first round. So why don’t you trust that he cooked? Why don’t you like of all the things he nailed it and he got positions of need. He got D slow down because the quarterback position is not a good thing unless they resign Jire otherwise you’re looking in the seventh round and saying this guy’s not going to contribute and you’re he could be cut. Caitlin King did not play on the Packers last year. He was on the practice squad or whatever. He was not he didn’t play in the NFL last year. That’s what you got in the seventh round. So you’re not expecting to get somebody that’s going to contribute right away. That’s all I’m saying. Why Why are you so low on the on four through five? I agree with Stevie here. I I I just he doesn’t understand why you’re saying this with such conviction. No, I again all I’m saying is this is that there was like the conviction makes me really curious as to what was in your panic. Tucker Craft got drafted. I was excited. No, some some guy from South Dakota State. He was going to be a top five tight end. Tucker Craft’s film. Get Get out of here with film. You don’t watch film like that. You think you watch more film than goody and the scouts? Listen, when you I need you to record yourself watching film. Okay. You know, if you’re going to watch this film, put it out on your social channel so we can get your breakdowns. You know what he watches? He goes on YouTube, searches Anthony Belton, North Carolina State. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. That’s not how you do it. You don’t do that. You can watch. So, you don’t watch highlights. You don’t watch highlights. You watch offensive line versus defensive line and you watch the player. That’s what you do when you want to watch an offensive lineman because So, you watch full NC State. You want You want to watch O lines verse D lines. You don’t want to watch guys in their highlights. You want name one team on NC State schedule that they played at home last year. Go. Did they play Georgia? I think it was Georgia. I think that was the film that I watched. Anthony Bel. I think that’s the film I watched. My phone. I think it was North It was North Carolina State. It was early in the season. North Carolina State versus Kyle. Do you know anything about Baron Serell? Uh uh. Good news for you guys. Georgia and North Carolina State did not play last year. I have to remember what it was. We just went from Stro having the worst segment ever to Kyle coming back falsely. No, no, no. Declaring that the draft class stinks when he said he watched film, but now he’s lying to us. Who who do you think you know a lot about? I’m going to look him up and I’m going to test you on what their strengths and weaknesses. I didn’t say stink. I just said I don’t believe in this class. And so you so because you don’t time Georgia and North Carolina State football was 1973. Was it was 52 years ago? Wait, I’mma find What was in your penis coladas? No, seriously. It was It was Tennessee. It was Tennessee. Okay, great. Hold on. Show me that again. Show me that again. It says It says North Carolina State O offense versus Tennessee State defense. That says Tennessee defense and Tennessee we already know they had the boy that got drafted in the first round that we didn’t want. So yeah, that’s what I’m saying. You you got to watch O line versus you don’t watch the guys highlights. You don’t want to see that you want to see what is Anthony Bell’s one and one weakness. I I will I will say this Barbie one of his strengths was this. I love the fact that Anthony Belton he did finish a lot of plays and he get downfield a little bit. The problem is is I feel like All right. I don’t feel like his well his kick set and being Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Anthony Belton weakness. Second level targets are able to elude his blocks and space in the second level. I just thought he was good in the second level. The film I watched I like when the boy got downfield. He was pulling out. I liked it. I did. 1973. I guarantee you. Watch his film. He get I mean I like No, no, no. You watch his film. All right. All right. Cuz I trust NFL.com over Kyle. All right. Well, now I know why Elliot Wolf never emailed or never like truly considered you for the scouting job. I’ll say this. I feel like this draft class that he got, there will be some guys in here, but I’m saying this way to go out on a limb. Now, listen, listen, listen. One of the eight guys are going to hit the No. The optimism, the optimism we had after last year’s draft, we felt good about last year’s draft, did we not? We were like, “Okay, we feel pretty good.” We didn’t know what to expect. They drafted an offensive tackler who didn’t play in the first round. I was talking about outside the first round. I wasn’t very happy about Jordan Morgan as the first round pick, but I’m talking about outside of the first round. So, you knew Evan Williams was going to take that job? Yeah. Fifth round pick. You knew it. You knew he’s going to take that job. I knew he was going to take the job, but I thought it was I thought it was good. I listen from last year. Run the tape after the draft from last year. I guarantee you I said Goody Cooked in this draft. Run it. Find it. Find it. He’s on it. Find it. He’s on it. Trust me, he’s on it. And the year before we sat here and we did a show, before KBN started, we did a show and we were excited about Luke Musgrave. Well, it didn’t happen today. I’m starting to feel some backpedaling right here about this draft class cuz now you’re starting to be like, “Oh yeah, it’s going to be No, no, no. Don’t get it. Don’t get don’t get it twisted. This will be Goody’s worst draft class in the last three drafts.” I guarantee guaranteed. For the same reason that he’s looking for audio from last year, mark this year’s draft class. Mark it for Kyle Wallace. You can you go ahead go ahead and mark it. This will be the worst draft class. I cannot wait to talk to somebody who’s actually watched film and knows about the players. And that’s Jason Wy of Willie and Talsh joining us next on Kyle Bron Orman. We’ll get Jason’s reaction to Kyle’s early prognostication of these players. Hey, hopefully I’m wrong. Hey, I hope I’m wrong, but fellas, I’m telling you this right now. There’s a better chance you’re wrong than you’re right based off the film that you watch that wasn’t actually real film. How many hours would you estimate you’ve watched a film? Okay, I’m not going to say I don’t watch hours of film. I just It’s literally these clips are these clips. These clip all you need to do you see a guy do what? 50 reps. That’s all you need to know. That’s all you need. I’m not going to watch 100 reps. I’m telling y’all this right now. Matthew Golden’s great. The rest of the class, we’ll be seeing Savon Williams. Y’all excited about Savon? Oh no. This is from Ezra in Port Washington and the Carbless Talking Texan. This is bad. Kyle, your sports takes are officially worse than here. Brad out. Oh wow. That cut both of us. Yeah. Makes me feel really good. Jason Mia next. Cool. Ezra, this is Kyle Brston Nortman. Kyle, I think you’re doing a good job getting it all off your chest. 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The Wolf of Wall Street was on the other day when I spoke at your channel. Great family film. Three-time Wisconsin sports writer of the year. I’m a naturally inquisitive person. Holding everybody accountable. If you feel better about that, I’m happy to do so. Jason Wy is on Kyle Brustin Norton. Joining us here on Kyle Brston Norton across ESPN Wisconsin is Jason Willy. Jason, welcome back to Kyle Bron Norman with the full crew and I couldn’t be happier to have you right now because you have actual knowledge of what happened in rookie mini camp. Not much. Uh, where do we stand on the head shaving? Did that occur already? Yes, I am buzzed. All right. All right. Okay. Oh, thank you for your support of charitable causes against your wife’s soon to be wife’s wishes. But she texted me and she said I look really cute. Okay. Well, I hope you still look cute when it’s in the awkward uh regrowing stage for wedding pictures. But hey, I I I love that she loves you no matter what. And I love that she’s taken a positive attitude to this. The last time I spoke with you, you were uh ignoring her please to not get your hair shaved. So, I’m glad that she is uh made her peace with it. And I hope everything works out both with the photos and with your wedding and many, many years of happiness. I hate feeling the dword of disappointment right off the rip here from Jason Wely. Yeah, this was a test. You failed the test. I couldn’t please everybody. And you chose the community. You chose KB Nation over your lifetime partner. And you chose poorly. Yeah. All right. He’s for the streets. Jason, I I Hey, God bless you. Uh I’m pulling for you. Uh yeah, that was the reason I brought that up was a just cuz I wanted to confirm that you made the wrong choice and b that it really was lame. Like it was great talking with the draft picks like that. I always look forward to that. And you know, Warren Brinson was hilarious and the photographer from the Green Bay Press Gazette got a nice picture of him saying something funny and me laughing and I look reasonably okay in the photo. So I was touched by that. But um you know it was the practice itself was it sucked. It was like all individual drill work like you couldn’t like if any of our any of my colleagues and I I haven’t read anything this morning yet but if any of my co or this afternoon yet but if any of my colleagues drew any meaningful judgments or opinions from what we got to see they know a heck of a lot more about football than me. And maybe they do. Do you consider Kyle Wallace a colleague? Uh, I consider Kyle Wallace a friend who happens to be my teammate. Well, your teammate believes that this draft cast class is going to stink outside of Matthew Golden Stro. Did he not just say he literally just What’s the declarative you just said? You said, “How is this going to compare to the other?” How you want, Jason? Go ahead. Did you or did you not jump to conclusions? No, I didn’t say they were going to suck. I said that you said it would be the worst draft class out of the last two out of the last three draft classes. Yes, I did say that. The other two have been pretty good. So, I’m going to give you a little bit of wiggle room. Yeah. Based on just not much. No, that No, that’s fine. He’s watched to combine less than an hour of film on every guy. Le the level of optimism that I have based off the guys that they drafted, I you know, I don’t think is going to match the last two drafts. We said goody cooked outside the first round. I think the inverse we got them cooking in the first round and the rest of them I think is TBD. I think there’s some guys with some maybe some potential but the level of excitement for filling a roster with guys like a Tucker Craft a Jaden Reed we talked about Evan Williams a Jaden Buller Javon Buller I don’t feel the same level of confidence. I don’t feel like they got a guy like Edwin Cooper. No. Now in fairness though did you know what Edin Cooper was last year? Did you know what Tucker Craft was two years ago when they drafted them? Yes. Ed Cooper was somebody that Brad loved out of Texas A&M. That was his guy. So we talked about Ed Cooper and Tucker Krab was a baller at South Dakota State. Well, a baller at South Dakota State. Listen, is that is that your is that your go-to school for ballers? No. I mean, if you watched this film, he was a baller. I wasn’t mad about it. I said, “Okay, he was balling there. He was a beast. He was a tough kid. I liked it.” And he got drafted third round. Maybe Savon Williams was drafted in the third round. will be, you know, Debo Samuel. Okay. So, you watched Savon Williams. How did his route running look? Did it look crisp and clean in t-shirts and shorts? He he he had uh Jason Vrabel throwing him the ball. Like this stuff means like it’s basically you guys, you know, like before a It’s like Ben going to shoot around back in the day. Like this was all individual drill work. good shoot around like Yeah, that’s when you’re the most accurate. Uh but but like you know the the Canadian quarterback that they had as a try out guy stood huh he he never threw a pass to Matthew Golden or Savon Williams the entire time and he was the only quarterback there. So it’s not like one of the other quarterbacks was throwing him passes. So, who the hell knows after losing Jason Wy here. We’ll see when we get him back. Jason, check one, two. Jason, check one, two. There you are. We got you back. I’m driving to beautiful Freedom, Wisconsin. So, wow. Freedom Wisconsin. Patriotism right there. So, Jason, outside of the rookie class, which you can’t really glean much from, what’s the update on Jire? because I think if he is on the team, the secondary goes from being pretty good to really good with his presence, assuming he’s healthy and mentally engaged. So, what’s the update there? And what is the assumption? But what wait a minute? you said that that was like the fine print of your opinion and like when we do ads where we can’t fit it into 30 seconds and all of a sudden you or uh or or Ben is talking in the commercial like you’re members of the chipmunks. Yeah. I call 1800 gamblers. I call that mice type. Mice type. That’s good. So So to add whether he’s healthy and mentally engaged, those are pretty big caveats, don’t you think? But that’s but it’s worth it for his skill set, don’t you think, Jason? Assuming they can figure out something financially $17 million a year. But isn’t that what they’re trying to figure out right now? Is there a way they can make sense for both parties? Like where where are they at with it? I’m very I I don’t know. Uh the the the folks that would be discussing that sort of stuff have now gone dark ever since it came out that uh they were uh working on a resolution. Right. So, I don’t know what kind of progress they made. All I can tell you is on Friday, uh, when I asked Matt Laflur about him participating in the onfield portion, Matt Laflur confirmed that he wasn’t. And that is because they do not want him going out there on the field turf, rupturing his Achilles like Damen Lillard, and then being stuck with him and his $17 million salary because he got hurt on their watch. So if they can if they can reach a contract accord that cuts his salary and then gives him say the chance to earn it back through playing time incentives and he wants to stay then they’ll reach that agreement and he’ll be here. But again I if you guys are the betting experts that’s not my area but if I had to choose one I would say that the the favorite is still him being released. then maybe the other two are a tossup cuz I don’t think they can find a trade partner and I think it’s equally likely that they figure out they’ll just keep him and hope that he stays healthy and engaged. So does Jason does this mean Jaier has no leverage like at this point if if no team is going to probably pay him what he’s being paid now does that mean all the leverage is with the Green Bay Packers? No. No, I think I think Jier has all the leverage. I mean look, he’s not gonna he’s not going to get paid $17 million by anybody for 2025. Right. So, but you know, if he doesn’t, and I don’t know how he feels because I have not spoken to him, um, but if he doesn’t want to play for the Packers, if he continues down this path and nobody wants to trade for him, then the Packers have to release him, which gives him the A, the Packers get nothing in return for him, right? And B, he gets to choose wherever he wants to go. How? Wait, wait, wait, wait. How are you on a contract and you get to choose? Wait a minute. If No, if the Packers don’t choose to trade him, Jaier has to earn his money by actually playing. So, how does he have any control? He can’t just sit out. No. If I said if they cut Look, they if they can’t reach an agreement on the contract, they’re not keeping him. They’re not paying him $17 million. And so the options then are to trade him, which has not been going well for the last six months, it seems. I guess I’m just confused. So So they don’t want to pay million because they just don’t want to because he hasn’t lived up to it. Like at this point, he’s played three years of not playing over half the snaps. No, I I understand it, but at a certain point, you might have to eat your law eat your loss. Say, “Listen, I Well, listen, you ain’t going to take this. Well, we even the losses would be cutting him. And so he has the leverage that if he won’t agree to a restructured contract, they will have to trade or release him. If I don’t think anybody’s going to trade him, trade for him and then accept him being on a 17 million contract for them. The leverage is I’m just going to keep saying no to the restructures if that’s what he maybe he’s changed his tune and he’s on board with making less and staying with the Packers. Okay. If he’s willing to do that on some other type of contract, then that’s great for everybody. But if not, then he has the leverage to keep saying, “No, I do not want to take this restructured deal, and you’re going to have to release me because you don’t want me at this number.” And then he gets to pick where he goes. But I don’t think anybody in the league is going to pay him $17 million this season to play for them. That’s why they can’t find a trade partner and that’s why they don’t just say, “Hey, we’re keeping him because we love Jaire and we’re gonna believe that he’s going to be healthy this season.” Well, Jason, we know you got to run, but we appreciate the time and uh thank you for shedding light into rookie mini camp and Kyle’s coming off vacation. So, uh he’s got to get back into this thing now. Uh Jire does uh have has the leverage that the Packers don’t at this point because they’ve made it clear about what they want to do with him. All right, boys. Take care. Be good. That is Jason Wy of Wy and Tal. What’s going on with the brain, Kyle? No, because I understand the Packers don’t want to pay the man. But initially it was Jaire didn’t really want to come back cuz remember at the end of the year the Packers don’t want him to come back. It’s very clear. And so my whole thing is so how does he if he don’t want to go if he don’t want to play for a team he he wants to leave too. Correct. Unless they come to an agreement that they both want to make it work at a restructured deal which is a possibility but it’s a low possibility. But if he wants to leave, the Packers have I mean, it’s just comes down to the Packers saying, “We don’t want to pay you this amount of money, so we’re going to cut you.” But I’m not sure that he’s going to get a good deal outside of the Packers anyway. Rosters are at 90 and he’s there. He’s not going to get as much patience at the other 31 teams as he is from the Green Bay Packers. No, no, I agree. I at this point it makes sense that both would come together. Like the Packers need him to bolster their secondary, and I don’t think he’s going to get a good deal as a free. also makes sense if you don’t believe he’s a guy you want at $17 million to cut him, save some money, and let him go elsewhere. Okay, my question is this. This is I guess what’s the worst thing that happens by paying Jer $17 million? Like, what is it? What is it interfering with? Oh, your team actually has a quarterback that’s a number one corner. What? Honestly, it comes down to the Green Bay Packers not thinking he’s worth $17 million. I understand that, but shoot. You You signed a deal. That’s what you did. You know that’s not how it works. I understand that’s not how it works. But we’re talking about the Green Bay Packers. It’s already cooked into the books. I don’t disagree necessarily with everything you’re saying. But you’re being stubborn. But it’s Are they Are they You’re not in You’re not in You’re not in Lambeau Field. You’re not in 1265 where the last three years they’ve witnessed him not play over half of the snaps the last three years. Why would you want to take that on and pay $17 million for that if you want to do that? That’s your prerogative. But you’re not making the decision. So, I’m just telling you what they are thinking and how they are going about this business. If it’s a thing saying, “We need to save this money because we need to shift it over to Zack Tom or somebody else,” then okay, I get it. We need the money. But the Packers aren’t hurting for the money and they can still get the deal done with Zack Tom or whoever they need to extend and keep Jaire and just eat it for this year. And if Jaire plays and performs well, then it’s money well spent. If he doesn’t, then bye-bye, Sid. Narris, don’t see you next year. Then cool. That’s I guess that’s my whole thing. Well, and the hard part is there only I mean you’d love to save $6 million for a guy that’s not going to be an asset to the team, but it’s only $6 million. Like that’s not it’s not a lot in the grand scheme of salary cap. It’ll probably go to Zack Tom. Then it goes to what you started your question to Jason with of is he going to be available and will he be mentally engaged? That is a big portion of this because we have evidence of what he’s been on the roster. Not when he’s been all pro, but when he’s been injured the last three, four years. Kyle Bron Orman across ESPN Wisconsin. Stew on it in the break. Kyle, if you’re still haunted, I’ll come back to you. I just don’t think I can make it. Stro, can I make this any more clear of what the Packers are feeling? For being Ben Brust, you’re doing a damn good job explaining. I’m trying my best. I feel like I’m talking to a wall. No, I I get it. I just I feel like the Packers. No, I 100% understand. I get it. I 100% get where the Packers are coming from with this, but they’re all we’re acting like the more you say you get it, the less I’m thinking you get. I just don’t think that the option of him coming back is not like this crazy thing. Oh, we’re going to have to pay him $17 million. It’s simply because they don’t believe he’s worth it. It’s not like they can’t do it. That’s all I’m saying. They can do it. They just don’t want to. They don’t believe. Of course they can do it. We all know they can do it. But they’ve made their intentions very clear about Jire. And I don’t see that changing unless he restructures. It’s pretty much that simple. Kyle Brussen across ESPN. Um, this is Kyle BroN. Yeah, let them do it. I ain’t doing it. I guess we’re going home. Come on. Yo, [ __ ] I should be doing this time. I should be two to six. That good enough for you? 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The ESPN Wisconsin app. Customizable just for you. Find the ESPN Wisconsin app in the Apple or Android app stores today. I feel so stuck. The Veterans Crisis Line is here for you. Dial 988, then press one to call. This is Kyle Brton Nortman, KBN on ESPN Wisconsin, ESPN Milwaukee on YouTube, and the ESPN Wisconsin app. Well, I was right. The Steelers will be playing in Dublin on May or excuse me, May. We’re in May 5th. The Steelers will be playing in Dublin on September 28th. All right. Yeah. Congratulations. You got the right. I’d also like to take this moment to officially retire from journalism. Oh wow. But wait, the whole report wasn’t accurate, right? I mean, hold on. This is a form of journalism. It’s called broadcast journalism. I’m on journalism right now. Yes, this is on journalism. You Yeah, this is journal. This is a form of journalism. You’re a personality, but it’s still journalism. This ain’t no journalism. I tell facts. Uh, you don’t you just you just lied about watching about the Brookies. You consider yourself a professional journalist? Oh, I’m a big professional journalist. Oh, yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. I can break the same. We’re a little different. Our styles. Our styles are different. I’m more broadcast. They’re written as well. They cover the team. Yeah. I’m a little different. So it’s just gray area between the avenue by which you’re conducting. Yeah. I get some inside information, but I’m not a breaking news. So that means everyone who calls in is a journalist. No, that’s very different. I went to school for this. I don’t know about y’all. Stroke. Do we not? You want to be in the same sentence as this guy? I don’t want to get pulled into this. Oh. I think I’ll pass on this one. Uh, so yeah, the Steelers are playing in Dublin on uh September 28th, according to reports. Yeah, according to reports, but yeah, playing who? I don’t know. There’s some new reports out there about who the Steelers are playing. Stro, do you know this? Yeah, I’m pretty familiar uh with the reports. So, Andrew Filipony, who is a radio host, longtime radio host in Pittsburgh on 937 The Fan, no one cares, tweeted this this morning. I feel like it’s important context to what I’m about to read. Kyle, he sees a guy in Pittsburgh, Philip Pony. He tweets. Philip Pony tweets, source, the Steelers will host the Vikings in Ireland on September 28th, not the Packers, contrary to popular belief. Oo, that was a shot at Benny Bruss. No, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was in the contrary belief. The contrary belief was out there before I tweeted the date in which the Steelers would be playing the Packers. Well, why don’t we reflect for a moment, shall we? Let’s reflect. All right. Back on February 6th, Ben Bruss tweets. I am hearing from sources the Packers will play the Steelers on September 28th at Croak Park in Dublin, Ireland. Oh, wow. Do you still consider your report um accurate? Yeah. Yeah. You said you had That’s a pretty big difference. Did your sources say Packers or did your sources say date? What if what if a group of Packer fans have booked their tickets non-refundable to Ireland and now they’re stuck? I can confirm it’s happened. Now they’re stuck seeing the Vikings. Well, that I am not someone who said book your tickets. Little Jay journalist. Big Little Jay. No, no, you little now. Big I thought you were team team. I I was, but then the tweet kind of, you know, recycled my mind. You did you did say the Packers will play. You could just from sources. He didn’t lead with what he said was the big thing he was breaking. He said the big thing he was breaking was the date. Now in journalism school they teach you leads, right? How to write the lead. He wrote and I quote, “I am hearing from sources the Packers will play the Steelers on September.” So if you were to rewrite my tweet with your journalistic mind, how would you have done it knowing that really I had the date figured out mostly than the teams? Breaking. The Steelers will host a home game at Croak Park in Dublin, Ireland on September 28th. Many have been Many have speculated that the Packers will be their opponent. Damn, why didn’t you help me? Didn’t call me. Yeah, you didn’t call the journalists journalist. You you called your best buddy Greg Scalzo and he said, “Go ahead.” You said that with conviction without ever having confirmation that the Packers were the team. Well, from my So, if I’ll be honest, I I had a couple of sources. They suck. One I can say was boots on the ground in Ireland. Boots on the ground in Ireland. The NFL has high in Ireland. Don’t you worry about that. This is getting crazier by the minute. He’s scratching himself. I I let him know. I was like, “Hey, thanks for the thanks for the report. Uh it’s pack. It’s Vikings, not Packers.” He just goes bleep, sorry. Oh, no way. Wow. That was one ground in Ireland. Ireland on the ground. Yeah. Wow. Uhoh. Did you vet your source? Oh, yeah. No, I know him. Well, you don’t know about these sources for months now. Since February 6, we’ve said, “Ben, you don’t even have sources.” I do. He’s boots on the ground. And then another source. I can’t give up that source. Just a dude you met in a pub in Ireland doesn’t make him a source. He’s not I’ve never been to Ireland. Well, this Well, he has he Yes, he’s Yes, he was. I can’t give up my information. Now, you can give up information because it’s no longer good information. He’s not a good source. I thought you only had one source. That was the whole thing. No, no. Then I have a second source that I can’t give up. What do you mean? They Listen, they’re not sources. They failed you. They told you the date, but they also said the Packers. Did they not kind of You can give up. You can give up bad sources. So people know so people know not to believe these people just like they can’t believe Little Jay Benny Bruss. I like like I said, I am retiring from scoop journalism. How about that? Failed. So, your first and last scoop was a failure. Yes. At least I know when to cut my losses, man. You embarrassed us. You embarrass. Are you guys really embarrassed? I am embarrassed. Who’s the fool? The fool or the follow. When I saw Ben’s tweet and we talked about on the show, I was actually impressed. I was like, “Dang, Ben is taking his career to the next level. He’s getting scoops, sources, and now all of a sudden he’s backpedaling.” I’m not backpedaling. You are backed. You basically Your sources were a scam. It was incorrect information. A scam. They weren’t a scam. I got I got the date. I have a police officer in Ireland’s voice memo to my source. Wait, wait, wait. You’re giving up your source now. A police officer? I must tell you that I’ve doubted you the whole time. You have. You have? No. No. This This is Then if this person’s calling me as another source, I have a third source. Oh my gosh. Welcome to the show. One of my sources. Oh wow. I’ll I’ll speak in in code here. Uh so no one recognizes anything. Ben was correct. Here’s what happened, guys. And the Green Bay Packers should be thanking Ben. We called we called the hotel, spoke on the phone to the receptionist. Mhm. Made up a whole story about how I’m flying in from Green Bay, Wisconsin. She said, and I and I and I promise you no fewer than three times, Packer Steelers. Packers Steelers. Packers Steelers. She said the Packers. That’s a team from Wisconsin, right? Yep. Yeah, we’ll be there. Just wanted to confirm the date. She’s a good source, bro. For the NFL. I’m sorry. Do y’all do y’all know five cities in Ireland? What? I don’t know anything about Ireland. And And you think this woman know about Wisconsin? Green Bay. Wisconsin. You just said Green Bay. She said, “Yeah, that’s the team.” Yeah, that’s the team. Green Bay. If you would have said Minnesota. Oh, yeah. That’s the team. The Vikings. The Vikings. She didn’t know you. She thought you thought she thought you were telling us she wanted your money. Okay, let’s let’s be honest here with all with all that smoke about the Packers and Steelers. It wasn’t just nothing. This has to do with O-r. If Rogers goes to the Steelers, they wanted to keep the home game. And if they keep the home game, they want Rogers to be in Pittsburgh for the uh Packers coming there. It’s called the spin zone. You’ve had a rough day. No, you’re talking about lost all of his hair. His his his one report ever in his journalism career is getting refuted. In his defense, I will say this. I do believe that Ben Bruss had it right. But I also do believe that the Pittsburgh Steelers made a decision like he just said, if they’re going to sign the the Steelers in the NFL, they all listen, Rogers is probably going to the Steelers, right? And so with that, would you want to give up that potential game? Hecky no. And so they talked to coincidence. This is another NFC North team. Hecky no. No, no, not at all. And I I think I think Ben had it right at a certain point cuz he got the cuz even though his even though his even though his tweet was it was he didn’t lead with the actual lead that he was breaking, he led with other people’s information, but I do believe Ben got the date right and the date is going to be accurate. And I think originally other people got the team right. So I think you I think you were right. Yeah, it was just too early. They still and I sourced it finalized cuz the schedule is released next week with a receptionist, a police officer and Oh, no. The police officer got me the date. Okay. Which is right. Wait a minute. So, a police officer gave you the date. I cannot get rid Yeah, you’re I can’t get rid of my sources. Wait a minute. So, the police thought the NFL we about to get investigated by the NFL. We about to get Roger Good. I don’t know nothing. I don’t even know this man. I don’t even know. Don’t dig into my past, my history. I don’t need nobody. I just got back from vacation. I just got back. I don’t want you to ask, did you claim this or that? Don’t worry about it. No. We wrap up the ESP Wisconsin hour next. This is Kyle Brston Norton. He now is now off his rocker saying it. Well, if I played choke artist, choke artist. Choke artist. Choke artist. That’s what you both are. Yeah, I said it. You both are choke artists. Losers. Choke artist. That’s what you are. You choked against TCU. You choked against Oregon. You choked against Kentucky. Y’all choked against Duke. I can keep going. 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Because I got the date right based off that message and the text underneath the voice memo I played you. I don’t mean to insult anybody. This no this was a setup. Was anybody I literally got the date right from my sources in Ireland. As somebody as somebody Ben has told me a little bit of story as somebody has done planning and different things like that. Ben is absolutely right. He No, you are wrong. Ben is absolutely right. He did He did very well. Wait, very wellcept. No, the team he didn’t The team was already out there. We’re talking about the D. Once again, the tweet reads out that’s the part that you can help me there. Yeah, that’s what I thought you were going. I am hearing from sources the Packers will play the Steelers on September. I should have left with a date. You should have let you should have contacted Big Jay graduates in Stro and Well, now that I hear the tweet again, he is putting the onus on the sources. It’s not like he said the Packers are playing the Steelers. Ah, wait a minute. No, no. He said, “I’m here for source. The Packers will play.” He He took credit for both. He did. The intention was to make it a declarative state. We tried. Damn. I should have I should be smarter. Yeah. Well, you can’t help that. But I knew I had the date. Yeah. I knew I had September 28th, but if you said the Steelers will play on September 28th and people are hearing the Packers, take it for what it’s worth. Boom. Well, because you wanted you wanted to mention the Packers. See, you got you got too excited cuz you’re new to this. You’re not true to this. That’s what happened. He got too excited. Wanted to lead with the Packers and be the guy. You’re not true to this powerful. Do you remember everybody’s reaction that night when they were like, “Why the hell is Ben Bruss the one breaking this news?” JD and FY chimes in. Benny needs to apologize to no one. Everyone knows never trust Benny. There’s truth to that, too. Like I said, who’s the fool? The fool or the fool who follows? I mean, I have no rebuttal for that. I was really pulling for you. That would have been big for our show. He would have got it right. Yeah. Imagine. Chef chimes in. He says he got the date right in one of the teams, right? The team that was already announced to be playing a game in Ireland. Wow. Yeah. Why are you being such a hater? Cuz he’s jealous. You got it wrong. No. No. This is a little different here. No, it’s a pretty big It’s a pretty big detail. No, but No, I listen listen. We know Ben He got a No, it was like 900,000 views. He was Listen, listen. I’m not trying to defend Ben Brush. I’m just The Packers alltime leaning rusher, scheduled a vacation for fans to Ireland that he can’t get out of. You don’t think You don’t think Aman Green didn’t know anything from anyone else before me? Yeah. No, you’re crazy. If he if he if he did that, then everybody the NFL let him also with a good point. You guys are giving Ben a lot of credit that people read his tweets and take them at face value. I mean, he got almost a million views. Ben, listen. I’m I’m I’m a Benny believer with this one. You were Shucksy Doodles just missed it. Ben, Kyle Wall, folks, Brad Norton, we stay with you in Beaverdam in Milwaukee. You get Jim, Matt, Molly in Madison. We’re back in 2 minutes, folks. Ireland gate continues. Southbound 41 really backing up from just before Good Hope Road all the way down past Capitol Drive almost to Burlai. The northbound side slowing down before Mayfair Road all the way up to uh to Capitol Drive. Southbound 43 not too bad. It’s a little bit heavy from Fondelac Avenue down through the Marquette. The northbound side slowing from Kilborn up to Keith and westbound 94. We’ve got some backups from 25th Street all the way to Mitchell Boulevard. Escape to the Mickerbucker on the lake. Enjoy stunning lake views, luxurious rooms, and exceptional dining. 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You screw you doing I thought we all do the Oh, wait. That’s right. We’re not done. KB. Oh, that’s worse than getting AI. That was terrible. Yeah. Sorry. Are you embarrassed? Yeah, you guys lack a little play. The fo one fo our at Wait, what? We tried to do every word was a different person that actually wasn’t spliced together. It’s the fo one fo on KB and what what that was? That was much better. What happened to last time? We were on remote broadcast. That was a bad Oh, that was a stupid idea. Yeah, that was Stro’s idea. How was the remote? It looked great. It was great. Shout out Third Space Brewing Company. Are you gonna do the real one? Uh, no. Hold off till tomorrow. Why the f you guys are messing with my head right now? Y’all would throw me off. What are you doing, bro? I thought we were going to do the Oh, wait. That’s right. We’re not done. KB. Yeah. No, I’m It’s my mind is disheveled in mush after that. I would mess it up like you guys. Disheveled. I said what I said. I like to dig, but I usually say he’s Kyle Wallace. I’m Ben Bruss alongside Brad Norton. Come on, man. Yeah, y’all tried it. It sucked. But you know what? We’ll be back tomorrow. This is why we got our own Kyle Wallace to give the correct suck. Did you like Yeah. What? You know what else sucked? Ben’s journalism report. Stro is mad. I think Stro is more mad about I think the real issue why he’s mad about it hurts all of us. No, I know. I think you’re right. our radio program spread that rumor for 3 months. It hurts all of us. It hurts me. It hurts you. It hurts you. It hurts you. It hurts all four of us. Well, I think it’s because he won’t apologize. I think Ben, you were mad today. You didn’t believe him from day one. And I think it’s simply because you you didn’t want it to be true. Because you didn’t connect. He didn’t. He didn’t. He said he didn’t want to be. Have you ever broke a story, Stro? This Oh, it’s jealousy. It is. It’s not to that level. No. Oh. What what story did you Steven’s point guard uh blank blank is probable for tonight’s game? I reported the YAK was shutting down athletics when I was in college during co but everybody else already had. They were just late. I got that scoop though. Yeah. I will say it’s a pretty mega scoop that Ben tried to break. Like that’s the thing. Like I should have just formed it right and I would have broke the date perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. But that’s that’s why he’s mad. and he’s mad that you didn’t consult with him. You know him. He ought to be part of everything. And that’s why he’s mad at you. He’s mad at you because you didn’t consult with him. You tweeted it out and he had to find out that you had this information just like the 900,000 people that saw it. That’s why he It was only 200k on Twitter. So I don’t know why you owe like again he’s trying to make it sound worse. I mean does that make it a whole lot better? Yeah, but like why’ you say 900,000 when it just made it up? I mean 200,000. Yeah, I did. That’s not always but also you’re not taking into account the fact that it was screenshotted and shared on other social media platforms on Instagram. You’re you’re crazy, man. It’s okay. It’s going to be okay. This is hater energy and it’s ugly. And and by the way, the source before like there was three other people before me that had Packer Steelers. I got found the date. The Pittsburgh Steelers decided to take the Packers off of that game because they think they’re going to sign Aaron Rogers and they want to keep that a home game. That’s out of my control. Oh, dude. We just we just retweeted Joe tweet too. Oh wow. Double down. That was stro because he want he wants me he wants me to get a heat and everything you down. What do you say to the family that booked tickets to Ireland in a hotel? What do you say? And what do what do you say to them right now that put their hard-earned money into a vacation thinking that the Packers are going to be there? I think Rogers could be on both the Vikings or the Steelers. It’s going to be a great game. Wow. Wow. Wow. We know. Well, we know he ain’t going to the Vikings. We don’t know that. No, no, no. Tweet that out. I’m going tweet that out. Confirm that he ain’t going to the Vikings. Okay, do it. Do it. Do it. You got sources. Yeah, my my my source is the fact that the NFL switched this game because the Steelers asked for it. Exactly. Yeah, that’s what happened. Ben has sources. I know Ben has sources there. I do. And are they good sources? Yes, they are. He’s got some good sources. In the Steelers building again, stuff happens. Wow. Wow. That’s the police officer. He’s leaking a source. Heck yeah. Heck yeah. Memory serves. I believe on February 7th, the show after you reported this, you said a good journalist never says a source. But I retired from journalism. All the sources now. I I told you I retired from journalism. Wow. So everyone’s being exposed. You No, you hurt. You really feel like you got it wrong. And now you’re exposing. So I I had it. I had I had it. I had I had this guy here. Had that guy here. swipe from underneath. Any potential of him ever breaking anything related to the city of Pittsburgh just went out the window. He he just got he got the Steelers investigated. Yep. He’s taking everybody down. As if everyone can take my word for something right now. I could be saying that or I could be not. Did I have sources or did I not have sources? Did I make it up out of thin air or did I not? The Steelers about to conduct an internal audit for real. Everybody’s fault, guys. Nobody in the building obviously. Who do I know in the Pittsburgh Steelers front office? Why’d you just wink? Oh god. Speaking of mad, which people maybe it’s okay. I can take it. Gabe Nitel was mad this morning on 945 ESPN’s Jen Gabe and Chewy as we uh have discussed Giannis post on Instagram with a prayer emoji and a salute and trying to figure out winning for the cream city and that post and what it all means. There’s a lot of trade scenarios that are already being thrown out there. Gabe Nitel reacts to one of them this morning. Can we at least make it serious trades only like don’t set There was a serious trade in this article that I have thought about every day since Giannis to Philly for Paul George Jared McCain and four firsts. Guess what? You’re not getting Giannis on a discount. You’re not going to get Giannis for your discarded scrap heap Paul George crap of a contract. Ain’t happening. Like Muel Bridges last year went for five firsts and better players. If we’re going to do this, I beg everyone, please, serious offers only. Are you okay? No. Like, how can you seriously do this? Oh, you know, if you are sitting there, if you’re the guy who wrote this, what what are you doing? Why are you wasting everybody’s time coming up with a trade revolving around Paul Bleeping George? That’s not good. No, nobody wants that. Get out of here with that crap for the weekend. Paul George won’t be the last time we hear stuff like this. Well said, K was preaching. He was speaking that not having a beard. That’s good for him. He did shave his beard for the first time since 2015. And I don’t know if it made him more angry or just speaking the truth. He look in the mirror every day. He’s mad. Oh wow. Your but gave on blast like that. I said what I said. Look, this is going to happen. It’s going to happen a lot and it’s going to happen over the next 3 months. It’s just one of those things where again he hasn’t said he wants to leave. And until he says he wants to leave, I don’t care what anyone proposes online. Even the proposed trades online, right? Because this is a bonafide all-time superstar great in the peak of his prime. The trades that I’ve seen online to what Gabe is talking about, they’re laughable. I mean, you you it would need to be among the biggest halls in NBA history. I mean, six, seven first round draft picks. I mean, like that maybe five or six plus young superstars. There is almost no level of true value that you could trade for Giannis, but you have to get close. You have to get in the ballpark. Again, if it comes to that, so when you see a couple of firsts or a couple of players, it’s it’s not nearly enough. That’s almost the irony to this. Giannis wants to win, and I don’t blame him one second for that, but it’s going to completely gut a franchise to get him on the team and actually be able to pull off winning a championship anyway. So, that’s sort of the irony in it. Anything less than a historic hall should not be considered seriously. Yeah, it’s crazy to me. And shout out to Eric name because that was from the Athletic that they kind of proposed these different trades and he just eviscerated every single trade that was put out there because of the fact that this is stupid. This is He’s absolutely right. Gabe is right. This is stupid. If you think for a second that you’re going to get Giannis for anything that’s not going to take away all of your future draft picks and control of anything for the next decade, you are crazy. As Brad just said, not only is he a top player in his prime, he’s a top 75 player of all time. This man is going into the Hall of Fame. He was top three in MVP voting this year. This dude, I believe, three straight years. Is that There’s something ridiculous about how he finishes in the top of voting, even if he hasn’t won it. This guy can change your franchise. Unfortunately, the Milwaukee Bucks have not been able to recreate what they created back in 2021. injuries and things happen and the Bucks were not able to capitalize on this. So, if the Bucks do choose to move on a guy that has probably another four to five years of greatness of elevating another organization to a level of being in a championship conversation, contender conversation, you are giving up the whole damn house. Bump the kitchen sink. You giving up the house. You giving up the man. You giving up the Brad Nortman man or what y’all call estate. You giving up you giving up the Nortman estate for that and then some the whole damn neighborhood. Listen to this run of MVP ratings for Giannis. Starting all the way back in 2016 to 2017. Okay, that’s a long time ago. He finished seventh in MVP voting, then sixth, then he won it. Then he won it again. Then he was fourth, third, third, fourth, and he’s going to be third again this year. That’s a top that’s a top seven player if you want to go back that far. You can just say he’s a top top three player. Top three player for the last 10 years. He’s still dominant. He’s not slowing down. He’s not slowing down right now. So this is So listen, I don’t want to trade Giannis, but Gabe is right. If you want Giannis for all the general men and John Horse, listen. Talk to him, Kyle. Look, look at the camera. John, listen. You can’t be trusted. For some reason, the bus gave you an extension. If you trade Giannis, if Giannis gets traded for less than what you gave up for Damen Lillard or for less less than what you had to get give up to give Drew Holiday for less than what it took for Paul George to go to the Clippers, then you should be fired immediately. Fired. You should walk out. As soon as soon as you say yes to the deal, walk out cuz you know what? If you think Nico Harrison got or Harris, whatever, like Nico Harrison got heat, wait till you do something like that for the Milwaukee Bucks fans. We we will ride at dawn on that behind. Ride at dawn. on that behind. It’s the summer time in Milwaukee. You know, get a little hot and spicy. Does it make you feel better for Giannis’s chances if the Pacers beat the Cavaliers? Can I add one more thing about Giannis really quick? Giannis. Giannis, he is mad at you. Yeah, you’re you’re nitpicky right now. You’re crazy. What do you want to say, Brad? Those years that he won the MVP, 2018 to 2019, and 2019 to 2020, we all know he’s great. He’s averaging more points, more assists, higher field goal percentage, slightly less rebounds in his last four seasons than he did those two seasons. It’s tough. He’s actually improved numbers wise to when he won the MVP. You can’t The Bucks need to he had an historic season this year. It’s It’s rid It’s ridiculous. No, it is. He’s And we’re And we’re talking about trading this man. No, I don’t I don’t want to trade. Nobody’s talking about trading that narative floated. I started with this and I will say it again. Until Giannis or the front office says they are no longer going to be together. The front office didn’t say that. If they do, you’re riding a dawn on their behind. The front office should not be telling Giannis they’re trading him. And if Giannis does that, power to him. Listen, brother, you brought a championship here and I see this roster that they put around. John Horse failed you. He did like he Let me correct that. John Horse, he did well by you initially, but then he could not repeat finding success for this roster. He tried with Damen Lillard. He can’t control that. And at this point, he hasn’t drafted well. He’s had first round picks. They just haven’t worked out. They haven’t. And then he traded your first round pick AJ Johnson for this year. Don’t know what he’s going to be. 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You just tell stories about like your dad being left behind and your brother and you at custom like like I just like there’s always something. Oh. Oh my goodness. Yeah. My girl reminded me of my uh my family the last time they traveled and how we’re uh they’re a mess. Yeah, I forgot. Oh my gosh. It was so nice to be able to move on my own time this time. How’d it go? It was It was good until uh it wasn’t good. Well, yeah. Your boy, I had I had a layover in Fort Lauderdale. Let me tell you, I know them Florida people a little different. I had a layover in Fort Lauderdale. And so what happened was I flew Spirit. I did not turn into a Spirit. Okay, so I know everybody makes that joke. So, you know, get in line to get on the plane. I get onto the plane. Me and baby girl, we get on first, but Spirit charges extra for seats. And y’all know me, Brad. You know me. You know, I respect it. I ain’t spend the extra $56. Listen, baby. I love you, but that $56 sitting next to each other, we ain’t going to do that. We going to play Russian roulette. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You don’t spend an extra $50 to make sure you sit next to your per person. What? Are you kidding me? I might fly a different airlines. Is that the case? We going to play Russian roulette and hope for goodwill of people around us. That’s what we going to do or try to luck out. And so we get on to the flight. She’s about two rows ahead of me. Yeah. Thank you, Brad. She’s a couple rows ahead of me. And I’m like, “All right, well, we going to figure this out.” And you just got to look who’s going to get there. And the thing you don’t want is you don’t want two people sitting with you because once you do that, then you know they’re together. You can’t switch seats. So I get onto the plane. I’m waiting and here come these two women. They come and they, “Oh, these are our seats. Going to sit here.” I’m like, “Dang it. Hey, how y’all doing?” They come sit down and plop down. And as they’re sitting down, they’re getting relaxed. Within four minutes, all of a sudden, I see, look to my left. I see all these little uh toes dangling and moving and getting closer and closer to me. This woman I’m sitting next to took her damn shoes off, had her feet out, and was within a foot of me. A foot of me. Them stank feet. And I’m thinking to myself, I know I know this lady didn’t just have her feet sitting here just trying to have a conversation, being off. This is pre-flight. Like this takeoff. This is pre-flight. But here’s where it gets worse. So we had to deplane because the pilot had to leave. So we deplane and baby girl says, “Hey baby, I think my row may be open. You want to sit here when we come back?” I said, “We’ll get it all figured out.” These women decide to stay on the plane. Two hours later, I get back on the plane. Would I tell? They didn’t leave the plane. They crazy. I’m telling you, Florida people crazy. This lady So remember I had a seat. They’re from Florida. Then they’re just flying through like you. Maybe maybe they’re not. I don’t know. I just assume that. Gotcha. But when I got back to my technical seat, you know who was sitting in it? Foot lady had her foot sitting all in my seat. move. She put her to my She put her bare stank feet in my seat, had it in my space. And so I’m going back to get ready to go to my seat. Y’all know me. Y’all know I’m a little reactionary. I literally go back there and she listen to me say, “Oh, are you coming back here?” I said, “Well, I was, but I mean you and I No, you didn’t. I You didn’t say that. I said I was, but I I just I guess I’ll just wait and sit here because I we didn’t know whether or not baby girl was going to have a full row because they started deplaining before everybody got on the plane. And so she put her stank feet in my seat thinking like she was going to sit there. I was thinking in my head somebody I literally I was processing because I’m like I there’s no way I’m sitting in this seat that she done sat in. She done sat I was gonna say excuse me there’s no way I’m sitting in this seat that she done sat in. I was going to say I need some wipes to wipe this down because this lady put her feet all on this seat. We need to wipe this seat down before I before I sit down. So you never sat down in that seat. Well the Lord blessed us that day. I blessing emoji hands because nobody said baby girls row and and you said salute. See you later. Exactly. Nice. I was just thinking I said these nasty people. Who does that? What’s wrong with people? Yeah. Feet out on a plane like that. Then you going to put your foot up like so people can see it. Yeah. I mean it wasn’t a very good-looking foot. What color were her toenails? Nah. I just saw the back of the foot. I was disgusted. It was a very meaty thick foot. He couldn’t You couldn’t see the ankle. Did you send me a picture of this? N I felt bad because I took a picture of somebody without their consent and so I was like, you know what? asked for it. They asked for it. They put their feet out for pictures. Expose your feet. I mean, I don’t think KBN Nation understands. She was so relaxed and had her foot just up just up on a seat close to me. It’s just disgusting. I don’t know what happened to people having some type of human decency. I just don’t understand the whole like how it’s allowed. Like there should be a rule. Stro, please describe what you’re seeing. I am seeing arched toes against the seat. It’s her left foot. Um, gross sweatpants. They’re gray sweatpants which have been stained. It looks like the foot has been through hell and back. And look how close it was to me. It was It It was within a foot of me, was it not? Yeah, I don’t think you’re exaggerating. Why isn’t there a rule that you have to keep closed covered shoes on at the airport? In countless stores, no shirt, no shoes, no service. But when we go in a tube that we’re going to fly across the the world or country and we say, “Hey, you know, take them off.” Did you ever think maybe it’s just because you have a you have a comfortable presence? No. Listen, no. I wasn’t going to sit welcoming demeanor. I I I was going to refuse to sit in this seat next to her foot like that. There’s no way I would fly. 8009903776. What’s the worst in airplane behavior? Just worse this etiquette. What? Like I I don’t I don’t care about the lean seat back, lean don’t lean seat back. This crosses a line. Yeah, this is out cross the line in an airplane which is already gross as it is. Her her now I’m looking at her foot. Her bottom of her foot is crusty. She got some type of reddish scab on her foot. Think about it. Like if it was a guy, you’re not like taking your shirt off, you know? Like you’re to go like, you know, bear on the upper body. Like why why would anybody think you can just expose your stinky feet? First and foremost, you nast if you go to an airport knowing you got to go through security, you don’t wear socks, you’re nasty. First and foremost, you’re nasty doing that. And I see people walking around with bare feet and it’s I’m like, yeah, they ain’t cleaning those floors out. They’re not just absolutely gross. That’s the nasty part. But then not to have just the the wherewithal to be like, maybe I shouldn’t put my foot up right here close to somebody like this on the plane. Maybe I should put my foot on the ground where it’s supposed to be. Cody chimes in, flying already sucks. You don’t need people to make it worse. Well, I had to deal with that. Thank Thank goodness I didn’t have I got the free seat and I could sit next to baby girl. I didn’t have to sit next to that foot demon. I wish the story have accidentally spilled your drink. I just No. I mean I just wish all in my life that Kyle couldn’t have switched seats and had to sit in that seat. The audacity of her to sit in my dang seat. That’s what that’s what just confused me. I said, “Man, when you say she sat in your seat, like her butt or she put her foot on your seat?” She moved. I was in the window. I had to deplane. She stayed on the plane for two hours. I came back to go to my seat and she was sitting in my seat. In the window seat. In the window seat, man. Kyle stuck in there at the window seat with a foot there for the whole flight. Would have been amazing. No. And it was like we didn’t leave until what? Midnight. Actually, it seems to me like you got the better end of this. Oh, no. The Lord looked out for me. You know, he blessed me. He knew he knew I I didn’t had the energy or time to be having being upset like that. I just wonder like you read when you’re going to wherever you’re going with your accent that this is coming back home. Oh no. Yeah. You you you know you read articles about people sometimes going crazy, you know, on a flight. I can see how this could happen because Kyle would be wedged in there with a foot pressed up against him all flight. We know how Kyle can, you know, lose his temper. He get upset with certain things. I was actually very upset on his flight. I don’t think you’d make it over Nashville, Tennessee without causing a stir. There was a lady that tried to sit I One thing I hate is yes, I I was going to try to find me a seat, but I was going to follow the rules and do it. I was going to say, “Excuse me. Um, that’s a open row. You think I sit there?” This woman was sitting in other people’s seat. And she said, “Oh, I’m sorry. I must have read my ticket wrong. I thought this was my seat.” Move to another seat. Somebody said, “This is our seat.” Oh, I’m sorry. And somebody told her, Somebody told her, “Uh, you need to find your seat. This is a person on the plane.” I said, “I don’t like people like that.” Kent in Milwaukee, you’re up on the carbless talking text line. What do you got? Uh Kyle, I just wanted to share something with you that I find very obvious about your story. The woman uh she was a Bear fan. Very obvious. Yes, she had bare feet. She had feet. We were we were flying to Chicago, so maybe she was. Probably was. The Lord blessed you that day and I’m here to bless you, KBN Nation. And if you haven’t looked at the calendars, Mother’s Day is coming soon. And that means Welky’s Mother’s Day giveaway is back to help you out. Be the talk of Mother’s Day. By from now through May 7th, registering on the ESPN Wisconsin app, that is the ESPN Wisconsin app, App Store, Google Play Store, you can hit the contest tab on the new ESPN Wisconsin app and win a one night stay to the St. Kate the Arts Hotel. 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John Horse extension at 9% is interesting that listen Bucks fans, I love y’all. and KBN Nation. The easy answer is John Horse. It’s not even close. This is John Horse mess that he made. John Horse inability to draft. Don’t look at me like that, Homer. If John Horse was able to actually draft players, right, build around Giannis through the draft, we would be in a completely different situation. But every single pick that he didn’t draft, he’d have either moved on from or they’re sitting on the bench. You remember a guy named Marjan Boamp? Marjan. Yes. Yeah. We had him on our team and he did absolutely nothing. You guys also remember a guy named uh DJ Wilson. Dante Devenzo. Yeah. Well, guess where Dante is? Oh my gosh. Did they trade Dante for Serge Ibaka? Uh, oh my gosh. Is that the SE? Not that San did he go he went to Sacramento this year? I forgot about that. That’s a horrible trade. I’m like 90% sure. Now Horse did trade for Drew Holiday which helped us win a championship. No, he he tra he traded for Drew Holiday. But again, what has he done in order to continue to build up this team? Draft picks are essential. If he hit on just two of his draft picks in the last five seasons, the the Milwaukee Bucks, you imagine if Dante Devincenzo for Sergy Baka never happened because they thought Grayson Allen was better. Oh, wild. Wild. Grayson Allen did have that one good game against who was it Chicago? That one game. He also uh tackled uh somebody on Chicago and then made people mad about it. Do we do we think that Dante Devonzo could have helped this team? Uh yeah. Okay. I mean it would have helped. I don’t know if he would have made him championship worthy. Maybe not, but he would have been somebody that’s contributing. Dante Ganchenzo is currently still playing in the playoffs right now for a team that does not have an an Andy Edwards elite, but he ain’t Giannis. He is not Giannis. All I’m saying is this. It’s obvious. It’s John Horse. John Horse has failed this team because he has not been able to draft and evaluate guys to help build around Giannis. You don’t need a whole bunch of first round guys, but you need some help in the second round at least. The worst thing going for them now is the question. And I think now is the fact that I think the fans right. Damen Lillard getting injured hurts them in so many different ways because now you cannot offload him next year because no one’s going to take a guy at his age with a ruptured Achilles and then he has to work as all way all the way back to make $63 million on a player option just to be 36 years old two years from now. horse swung and it was a good swing. It just didn’t work out. Yeah, he missed. But the thing is you have to you still have to capitalize on draft picks. You have to all these teams that are rebuilding like the teams that we look at in the playoffs right now, they were able to draft some guys and also able to sign some guys. That’s how you build up your roster. That’s how you are able to rebuild your team. We talk about OKC. OKC was able to rebuild through draft picks and making really good trades. The Milwaukee Bucks have not been able to do anything and build around Giannis other than trying to sign guys that aren’t good enough. Yeah, I mean, I get that with the draft picks for sure. I just look at the the biggest issue right now. Damen Lillard’s not going to play next year and he’s going to play the year after, but he’s going to be a shell of himself. Meanwhile, making 35% of the cap. 35%. With him and Giannis, that’s 70. So, you only have 30% left over to fill your team. At least if he was injured, you could give Giannis a playbook of we’re one of two options. We’re going to come back with Dame. It’s going to be the dynamic duo. Neither of you guys have been consistently which hasn’t been that dynamic when they played together or you trade him for young players or draft picks, but you’re stuck with them now. You can’t get any of that. So, not only is he he’s expensive and he’s old, he’s like a dead weight on your team. The the problem with choosing Dame is I understand the injury sucks, but as Ben said, we have to come to the realization that the team was not going to win a championship with a aging Damen Lillard and Giannis. We saw that. And here’s the thing. Here’s the fact bomb that for us. I know Dame was coming back off injury during this or I should say with his calf stuff going on. The Bucks may not have beaten the Pacers in the first round, but they weren’t going to a championship. We know nobody after watching a little bit of the series. Nobody with a sane mind will believe I thought that he owes Homer $20. Win him, baby. I do owe you $20, Homer. I’ll get it right now. I’ll get it right now. Yeah. Yeah. I got mine upstairs for you, too. I I don’t owe any money. He He likes Florida against the uh coach that was uh null and Kevin Willard. Here’s your dirty money, Homer. Dirty $20. You You fleeced me. You fleeced. You fleeced yourself, Brad. No, no, he didn’t fleece you. He This is the first time I’ve never heard Homer want to talk. I fleeced him. I did. I fleeced him. No, he did. He offered Ron and the key. Welcome in to the carless talking text line on Kyle Brussen Orman. Yeah. First of all, Shane mine did tell you not to make that bet. But secondly, I want Kyle to go look at those drafts and when the Bucks were drafting and even with hindsight, I want him to tell me who he would have taken with all of his GM greatness. that was going to make or break the Bucks. Listen, I I don’t know. That’s not my job to figure out. That’s John Horse job to figure out. But he had a lot of swings and a lot of I know your job was Tom Koozma. Trust you. I I enjoyed moving on for Chris Middleton and moving that money away from him. But at this at the end of the day, listen, he traded AJ Johnson. That was my one reservation. I’m upset about that one because I don’t know what AJ Johnson’s going to be. But I do know is AJ Johnson has more potential for the Milwaukee Bucks than Kyle Kosma does. Not my job. I don’t get paid to do that. John Horse does. You get paid to watch film on the rookie uh on the Green Bay Packers. And uh did you ever find that? Play it tomorrow. He’s looking for uh his postdraft thoughts in 2024. Yeah, he was right. I don’t want to talk about it. Say it with the damn chest. I was What? Right. Brian Balaga joins us next. This is Kyle Brustin Nortman, KBN. You throw hands. Do I throw hands with to? Will I? I throw hands with Andre the Giant, man. On ESPN and the ESPN Wisconsin app. The best source for every piece of NFL news you need to know. The people there made it a really great trip. 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Don’t wait any longer because right now at Pella Windows and Doors of Wisconsin, get 0% financing for up to 6 years. Visit pellwi.com today. Certain restrictions appliance 531 2025. This is Kyle Brston Nortman KBN on ESPN Wisconsin, ESPN Milwaukee on YouTube and the ESPN app. I’ve got some friends you probably never heard of. Joining us now on Kyle Bron Orman leading into the homer hour at 5:00 is the future Packer Hall of Famer Brian Bulaga. Brian, welcome in. We doing guys. Doing pretty solid. Uh Kyle is jumping to conclusions about the 2025 draft class by Goody says uh you know he’s not feeling these guys. Well, I have a track record. Yeah, I’m not feeling them, Brian, but I I listen, I don’t think I think they could be okay, but they’re not going to live up to the classes the two classes before them. That’s all I’m saying. Okay. What makes you believe that? It’s a great follow. I I I watch some film and based off the film. How much film? Okay, Brian, I don’t listen. I I’m not sitting there watching an hour on each guy. I watch a couple couple O line Dline highlights or, you know, based off the guys that we have. I’m not just watching their highlights. I’m watching them verse. I’m watching the reps. That’s about it. So, I’m probably spending each player maybe 10, 15 minutes. that it each. That’s all I need to see. That’s all I need to see. Is that enough time, Brian, in your opinion? Uh, probably not. Um, I I think if we’re going to judge a guy off 15 minutes of film, I we got to give him a little bit more than that. I mean, we got to give him a little more than 15 minutes of tape. This is what I’ll say. How about this? How about this? Is when you watch Anthony Belson, you play tackle. Do you think Anthony Belin can you think he’s going to be a guy that is going to replace Rasheed Walker? I well listen first of all it’s going to be interesting to see where they put him this year right so like that’s going to be a real telltale sign of what they plan on doing because we don’t know if well we’ve already heard what goody said right like goodies said has said he’s not in the left tackle competition so like right away that rings bells to me that he’s in the right guard competition now so like in my mind the left tackle job isn’t what they have in mind for him right off the get, right? So like the left tackle gig is the Jordan Morgan uh Rasheed Walker competition. The right guard competition now is Shawn Ryan Belton competition. So like that’s where I see this going for him in year one. So do I think he’s going to replace Sheed? No. No, not right now. I don’t. No, that is not where I see him playing in year one. I mean this is going to be a competition between Sheed and Jordan Morgan. I think that’s been stated by those guys. And my my only thing is this, Brian, is that I feel like I mean, again, I don’t know all the tackles, but you can find a guy in the second round at offensive tackle that in this draft that probably could be better than Rasheed Walker. And I and I love Rasheed Walker, but I’m just saying I I don’t feel like Anthony I love I love second round guys can be plug-andplay guys on the offensive line, and I don’t think Anthony Belton is that. That’s my only thing. Yeah. I mean, listen, he’s he’s a ve he’s played a lot of football in college, right? Like, he’s got a lot of snaps. So, um he he’s done it for a while. He’s proven his consistency at the collegiate level. Um it’s going to be interesting to see how he transitions to a different position um in the NFL because I don’t think he’s going to get snaps at left tackle. So, it’s going to be how he’s able to transition to the guard spot cuz he’s not getting reps at right tackle like like I mean he may get some reps at right tackle behind Zack Tom but he’s not taking any significant reps off of Zack Tom. Um so he’s going to get reps at right guard and and that’s where he’s going to have to try to make hay in this thing. So um it’s going to be how he makes that transition. Now, let’s not get ahead of ourselves and and say that he can’t, you know, be one of those guys that can be a second round pick that you can plug and play. We don’t know that yet, right? Like, let’s let’s at least see, right? Like, I I mean, um and I always say this about draft picks, right? Like, and and we don’t I mean, last obviously last year’s picks, especially the second, third round picks, really good players, right? Uh you know, really good players. But I always like to give guys like two years, three year, let’s see how they do, right? Like and if they produce in year one like last year’s guys, like that’s a major bonus. And Goody kind of and I and I agreed on what he said to some degree with the first round picks like it is based on situation with, you know, if you’re behind a bunch of guys like it’s going to be hard to see the field, which is true. Like I was a perfect example that I repeat that over and over because it’s true. Um, but you got to be ready to play. And like Belton’s gonna be an example of that, right? Like he’s gonna have every opportunity to compete with Shawn Ryan. Like he’s gonna have that opportunity. So, let’s see how he does before we say that he’s not that type of player, right? Like, let’s see how he does. Let’s see how he adapts to it. Let’s see how he moves when he gets on the field. Let’s see how he is in OTAAS. Let’s see how he is in this rookie mini camp coming up. Or I mean, I think he that just happened, right? Yeah, that was during the derby. So, I’d like to hear how that went. Um, there’s a lot of things that, you know, I I want to see before I make that judgment, so to speak. Brian, as these, uh, rookie players make the transition and maybe put themselves in a position to contribute in year one, what’s usually the hardest thing for rookies as they enter the door? Is it the speed of the game? Is it the playbook? Like, what is it that prevents or that is the hardest hurdle for these young guys for them to contribute year one? I think it’s putting both of those together, right? Like I think it’s putting both of those things um together and and going out and doing it because, you know, playing football is playing football and it, you know, once you get into say year two and three, the game does slow down. It is like a cliche thing to say, but it does because you do get comfortable with the playbook and uh you’ve seen things on the field and all that like and that’s all good, but to be a rookie um and then get this massive playbook thrown at you and all the adjustments, all the calls, all per week game planning, like there’s a lot that goes into it. in in my rookie year, I mean even I mean rookie training camp, like there’s a lot that you’re trying to digest and and then trying to go out there and do and then to say have guys like Klay Matthews ripping off the edge and you’re trying to block him, but then you’re trying to make sure you heard Aaron right with the adjustment and and you’re not trying to screw up a pass protection and and let a linebacker, you know, come through the beat gap that you were supposed to squeeze down on. So, like there’s a lot going through your brain cuz then if you’re a half step off the ball late, Klay’s by you, like he’s gone. Like you already lost that rep. Like he’s already passed you. So there’s a lot of things like those two things together um I think is what trip guys up early on. and and the faster I feel like you can figure that playbook out and and get a good grip of that, the faster you are or the easier it is to pick up this the the play speed and and you’re able to adjust to that because then you’re not thinking as much on the field about what you have to do. That’s already coming naturally to you. You already know your assignment. If there is an adjustment, you’re hitting it on the fly. Uh there’s not a lot of communication. You already know what you where you have to be or what you have to do. And then you just get to play and you get to be the natural athlete that you are and just go do it. Brian, you mentioned the derby, the Kentucky Derby. There’s a little rumor floating around about an engagement. Is that or a ring on somebody’s finger? Is that is that is any news you want to break? Uh with who? They said they said Aaron Rogers had a ring on his finger down at the derby and all the you know the pop culture is talking. A ring on his finger. A ring on his finger. Well, I don’t I don’t know anything about it. I wasn’t even there. Of course, he’s married to who? I don’t know who. But why? There’s a ring on his left finger. Finger. He had it there for everybody to see it. So everyone there’s been no wedding. Oh, he’s kind of loped. I don’t know. Maybe he’s, you know, did it by themselves. I don’t know. Was he Was he there alone? No, I don’t. I don’t. Brian could find out if he wanted to for us. Brian, I could find out, but I’m not I’m not fishing. Brian don’t seem like he’s into the juicy tab. No, definitely not. Of course. Isn’t that classic Aaron Rogers? He’s got a wedding ring on his finger. Could be a promise ring. Stop. Just stop. Classic Aaron Rogers. I want to be private. I don’t want anybody to

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