Time to wave the Flagg in Dallas (or not), disappointed in playoff Jimmy Butler? | NBA | SPEAK
So, what should the Dallas Mavericks do with the number one overall pick this year? I went back and forth the last couple times with this over the last since yesterday. Originally, I said if they can get if they can get a Giannis and some other stuff with it, it might make sense. But then I started thinking about the age difference and the and the replacement value, right? So, if you get Cooper flag, you essentially could sell that hope of here’s our new Luca. He just happens to be an American Luca. That’s That’s kind of what I’m I’m selling that if I’m If I’m Nico, I’m really really selling it. What’s an American, Luca? Well, you know, white dude that got the perimeter offensive game that could do some stuff. That’s that’s what you know. So, we could sell that in Texas in Dallas. We could sell it and and he should feel Nico should feel extremely good right now about the situation. He should just feel good. Unless you unless you can get a guy like Giannis, Giannis is only going to give you another five to six years of a Giannis where now you got Cooper might give you, you know, 13 years. So, it’s all about what do you think the value is for that number one overall pick. What do you think, Paul? Man, I struggle with this right now because think about this. when they traded Luca to the Lakers to get Anthony Davis, they was still in a win now mode, right? You know what I’m saying? If you had him, so if you in a win now mode, it may be best to trade the pick if you can cop somebody like Giannis cuz that shows me like, oh, you you you looked at this trade and saying maybe the window with Kyrie, he get healthy. Well, what we got? The window was four four years, maybe. I I’d call it. Let’s call it a president. Yeah. Four four years is a good window. You get Giannis in a win now mode. Well, like if you’re picking Cooper Flag, you you got like, okay, he’s going to be a good player, but this might take some some time. Three or four years. Remember though, he cooked the the Olympic team in the in the little scrimmage deal. Yeah. But is he ready to be the guy? Who’s the guy for Dallas? It would be Anthony Davis. But if you add Giannis with Anthony Davis and now you say Davis, you didn’t want to be the guy with LeBron. So we gonna slot you in that number two slot where you’re comfortable at with and we going to put Giannis as our go-to with Kyrie out there. That makes the most sense when I really look at the big picture. But at the same time, Nico’s been through a lot with the fan base and the media. Yeah. I don’t know if he can take any more scrutiny. If he moved that pink and it don’t work out, it don’t work out. Oh my goodness. I wouldn’t want to be him. Just saying. So I I think of it like now and later I’m Niko. No, we going to stay picky. Joy, is he up against is he is he up against Luca and the Lakers of who’s going to get to a championship first? That should be his thought process, right? Who’s going to get to the championship first? If I stick with him that I draft you number one or am I going to beat Luca to the championship? No, you’re not. You’re not. Look at the number one overall picks just from But this dude just seem different though. He do. Don’t I mean don’t all the number one overall picks seem different? Not really. You think Cooper Flag is ready to come in right now and take a team to a championship in the next four years? But he’s not but he’s not by itself though. That’s the thing. No, this is a different definitely a different unique situation. Yeah. This is equivalent to like when Magic and Bird came in. When you start thinking about the number one overall picks and you got guys in there like DeAndre Aiden, that’s going to screw you up a little bit with that. You know what I’m saying? Cuz he wasn’t supposed to be the number one overall pick. There’s other guys that probably could have gone before him. No other number one pick is coming into a situation where you have a bonafide all-star MVP candidate. Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer and another allar. No number one. And you still got them young dudes that they traded for a year ago. That’s still I I don’t know. It’s it’s going to be interesting. He got a lot to think about. I think that they’re going to draft Cooper Flag. I I think I agree with you. I don’t think you can risk trading it and bringing in Giannis and God forbid something happens. Giannis thing. that Giannis thing though, that’s that’s like a that’s a good meal for him if he just I mean, it’s tempting for sure. Now, if if everything hadn’t gone as poorly as it did with the Luca trade publicly, I I think they might consider going for Giannis because I think if you bring Giannis into the situation right now where you are a league MVP, you’re a champion, and you put him into what they have going on in Dallas, that’s a different So, you think that you think they’ll Okay. Do you think they’ll be push back and mad at him for bringing in a two-time MVP, NBA champion with about I don’t know, man. The NBA guys play long, but another six years of what we see right now. It’s like, are you going for are you going for that or are you going for hope? What what’s what sells? But you’re going to have both though. You going to have I can sell you hope with Giannis. I could literally sell you hope with Giannis. I can still sell you hope with Giannis. I mean, I I would go for Giannis. I would. Yeah. Because when when I’m looking at the and I understand the longevity, but you’re looking back like you got Carl Anthony Towns number one overall pick. You’ve got Ben Simmons, Marco Folultz, DeAndre Aon, Diane Williamson. Mhm. Now we got Anthony Edwards. Okay. Yeah. Kate Cunningham, Paulo Vincero. Okay. Those are all good. Those are all good. Yeah. And none of them are are playing for a championship. Well, except for an and Carl Anthony Towns. And Carl Anthony Towns is not the number one on his team. Yeah, it makes sense. Nor is he playing for the team that drafted him. But them dudes that you started naming at the back end right there pretty damn good. Are you going for pretty damn good or are you trying to win a championship? But I’m putting him with a guy like Paul was saying and possibly with a guy in Kyrie once he comes back off his injury. I I’m I’m saying what I personally would do. I’m going for the two-time league MVP and that’s probably what I would do. That’s what I’m going to do. That’s probably what I would do. I I’ll stick what they’re going to do is draft Cooper flag. That’s what they’re going to do. Yeah. I mean, it makes more sense as far as when you look at the the timeline, when you look at the age of of of Anthony Davis, when you look at the age of Kyrie, right? They can’t wait for Cooper Flag. If we’re saying exactly we’re trying to compete for a championship. If Cooper Flag is ready to compete for a championship, they going to be gone. But what but what Okay, so what will get Nico’s seat from burning hot? What will do that? Uh drafting Cooper Flag is the safe bet. See, but I don’t think that I think trading for Giannis will get people off his back cuz that I can sell hope. We gonna get a championship. I could put him on Anthony Davis. We get Kyrie back. We got Lively. I could I could We’re everybody’s big across the board. You have more longevity. But I don’t care. I need to win right now. I got I need to win right now. Like I’m like, listen, I know I ain’t going to have this job for the next 10 years. I need to win right now. I need to get in right now. People want to throw rocks at my window. I need to win right now. He’s having a good day today. He’s having the best best day of anyone on the planet today. Um Oh, it’s like 50/50 because I know Jimmy is getting up there in age and you know, and he’s at a new team midway throughout and I’ve seen flashes here and there. You know, he hasn’t he has yet to be really consistently play off Jimmy throughout these playoffs. You know, we see it here and there and then there’s, you know, times where he takes a backseat. We’ve seen Kam Kaminga explode. We’ve seen Steph explode before he went down with the injury. Um, but I would I did expect a little bit more in this last game being that this was a game that was going to, you know, be like a do or die situation. I just didn’t see the aggression that I needed from a guy like Jimmy Butler to, you know, help his team to elevate his team like we’ve saw in the past because we’ve been used to seeing that in his Miami days. Um, but he just there’s just not enough out there for him. I mean, you got Kaminga since he’s been playing being your second best player. Uh, and the weapons are different that he had in Miami than he has here in Golden State minus Steph. You know, he had Bam Adobayu who was an all-star. You had Tyler Herro who was pretty good. Uh, Kyle Larry. And so with this supporting cast, it doesn’t help him is like like and what I mean by like, you know, nobody’s drawing any attention away from Jimmy. So that’s why probably the lack of shots or the the inability to get to the paint and finish without, you know, the help being being smothered. And so it’s just an uphill climb for Jimmy at this point, you know, being down 3-1 in a difficult situation. But I do expect them to have a bounceback game uh in game five because he knows that if he doesn’t, they’ll be going home. You know, I’m I’m like Paul, I’m 5050 on this situation. Um I’m not down on him. I’m just not understanding Why the lack of shooting? I mean, I look at last night’s game. We talked about the game before that Draymond needed to give him a little bit more help. Draymond gave him a little more help. He scored 14 points. He wasn’t He was a little more for Draymond, he was aggressive for Draymond offensively. And I just didn’t understand. And I know what Paul is saying when they are crowding him or collapsing on him, but even before they were crowding him or collapsing, he’s right underneath the rim. He’s right there. and shoot the damn ball, but he was passing it out or or get to his spot and wouldn’t pull up at the elbow, would just kick back out. And I don’t know. I’m like, well, I’m and I’m sitting there watching the game, uh, Joy and Paul, and I’m trying to in my mind understand why is he playing this way? What’s the reason when you know that you’re now Batman? because the original Batman man is sidelined and you’re now Batman taking the place of him, but you’re not being aggressive like you were, let’s say, in game one, like you were in the first series against Houston. Like, you just I I don’t have an answer for why he wasn’t shooting the basketball. Well, I’m not going to put this on Jimmy. He’s been there three months. He’s had his playoff moments. And you mentioned game three had 33 points, seven rebounds, seven assists. They just squandered him and Kaminga’s big game because Draymond only had two points in that game. Like that was the game that you you you should have won. That was playoff Jimmy, but there’s there’s not really this hasn’t been his team in Miami. He was the guy. So, he’s come here. He’s only been there a few months. We know it takes time to adjust to a new system. Now, we’re we’re expecting this to just roll over because we’ve seen the performances that he’s had in Miami. But Miami was a different dynamic. He was always the guy. But why did he do it the game before? Well, I think he has the capability of doing it, but when you’re talking about consistency, I think that that can play play a part. And then the dynamic of switching from it being all about Steph to being all about you and then is it, you know, like it’s there’s a lot going on here. So, I can’t just put it on on Jimmy. I mean, it’s disappointing obviously because you lost Steph. It looked like this was going to be a really long series and a really more competitive series and now they’re in a 3-1 hole, but um I we’ll see if they can extend it uh to a longer series. Subscribe here to get the latest from Speak and go watch a few segments from our other shows on FS1.
Paul Pierce, Joy Taylor and Keyshawn Johnson discuss whether the Dallas Mavericks should draft Cooper Flagg at No. 1, another player or trade the pick away. The crew then reacts to playoff Jimmy Butler’s play without Steph Curry and how disappointing (if at all) fans should be in his performance.
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Why not trade Anthony Davis for Giannis? I would rather see that than give up on Cooper flag so early.
For the love of Dallas do not trade the pick
How do you get a max player with just a number 1 pick? Doesn't make sense. Mavs will have to get their team to get Giannis. Makes no sense to do so.
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Why do Dallas teams always try to recreate some old players they USE to have. Here’s our new Luka like dude stop.
I guarantee you they won’t trade Flagg. Come on people that’s the Great White Hope. Have you seen him play against USA Olympic team? Young blood looks good.
Cooper Flagg should be afraid to go to Dallas Mavs. That team is a s… show. Mavs players are dropping like flies with injuries. Cooper needs to stay away if he wants to stay healthy. Mav players will be cursed now until the GM is fired and the owners sell the team.
Yeah cooper is cool but he ain’t the Greek Freak plus going up against pros on a regular basis is different than practice
Cooper Flagg will be better than Luka and Giannis.
i love her! she said none are playing for championships
Ima mavs fan nico better not trade the pick lol
Mavs can’t pay 💰 everyone Flagg would be a lot cheaper and be around a lot longer if he stays healthy
Trade Flagg and get Luka back!
If Nico somehow messed that pick up ima stop watching basketball all together 😂
Keyshawn still dumb
Gotta match salaries cant just trade a 1st pick for giannis
If Dallas can get Giannis I'd do it!
If the dallas pick cooper flagg.. that is the win now decision..
These people act like trading for Gainnis would be for Flagg straight up. They would have t gut the team. Giannis would also have to sign an extension or he would be a 2 year rental and he hasn’t be the healthiest lately and Kyrie and AD are injury prone. You take Flagg and keep him in Dallas, the nba is a business, just like trading Luka was bad for business even if you have an argument on the basketball side. Trading Flagg would be terrible for business. He’s the best prospect since AD and prospects that come out of college with his type of usually turn out to be superstars
Keep Flagg , they need scoring..Giannis is not a good fit
Cooper for Booker. Who says no?
These people don't get it. If you're a fan of a team you want sustained success. Not a mercenary championship and then tank for 10 years. Cooper is the future here in Dallas
Trade AD , PJ and Gafford and later years 1st for The Greek freak and gary trent Jr
When Nico was at the SMU vs Duke game I kinda of figured this would happen
Lady those guys weren't going to a stacked team
Molly stop. Not one of those #1 picks came into a situation like the Mavs. You can say health and I'll give u that, but to compare him to zion paolo wemby weren't drafted to a team as full of stars like ours
Nico has the opportunity to literally destroy the Dallas Mavs fan base! They should open up a over/under line* for if Nico drafts Flagg or Not 😂
I wouldn't trade the #1 pick away.
Nico, better good than lucky! He’s not Luka!!
On Anthony Bennett, Greg Oden, Michael Olowokandi and Kwame Brown the Olympic one look different what’s kwame Brown because his little hands 😂.
I don’t understand how they don’t mention what it would cost to get Giannis. They do realize the Mavs would have to match salaries right? Seems like something they should know.
Saying Giannis to Dallas just show how little you know about basketball…
Don’t get me wrong Giannis is an amazing player, but he wouldn’t fit well with this team, AD needs a C he can’t play C…
AD needs Lively and Gafford on the team…
The only way to trade for Giannis is if you are giving them AD…
The only player I’m trading that pick for is Michael Jordan
Giannis & AD is not going to work
Nico said I think I have a championship team when he made the trade until injuries..
Why trade?
Flagg on a rookie deal and you have to give up a lot of pieces just to get Greek the freak..go out n get a point guard and stop trading every second..in 3yrs Dallas will be made because we have one to build around other than Dlively…Flagg can help now
Keyshawn mad because a white boy is going number 1 and he cant stand it 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Man let’s allow this young fella to develop. Comparing to Keith van horn is absurd!!!! When did van horn EVER have this level of defensive prowess? He didn’t have the same mindset and he was not that type of competitor.
Don’t let these journalist gas yall up lil bro is different.
Mavs will keep the pick and draft Cooper Flagg as they should. Even if the Mavs wanted Giannis I’m not sure they could beat offers from Spurs, Rockets, or even OKC.
Flagg will never be as good as giannis…dallas should trade for giannis…it's that simple. Dallas will draft flagg to not hurt the egos of the rich white season ticket holders. It's also that simple as well.