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OFFICIAL 2025 NBA Mock Draft: Post Combine (Full First Round)



OFFICIAL 2025 NBA Mock Draft: Post Combine (Full First Round)

Welcome back to another video from the debate room podcast. This is our NBA mock draft after the NBA draft combine. It was a very um eventful combine. We saw a lot of players uh rise their stocks up like Cedric Coward I believe did Tah Pedford amongst others and other people people’s didn’t have good showings. But we’re back for another mock draft. I think we did one last week that did pretty well. But today we’re joined by Sheldon from Utility Sports. Um, I’m pretty sure if you watching this video, you’re familiar with his content um, for the NBA and the NBA draft. So, want to give a big shout out to you for uh, coming on. A lot of people with like big platforms are pretty, you know, um, stingy about, you know, just responding to um, people and stuff like that. So, shout out to you. Um, do you want to shout out anything? Um, I just want to shout you guys out. Appreciate you having me on and I’m uh, always down to talk some hoops and everything. So, appreciate you guys a ton. And we got Q who been with me uh NBA draft coverage all year. Um Jaden is back um from his hiatus um finishing school. And Max, we we just did another uh mock draft last week, so he’s back. Um Sheldon is a Mavericks fan, so we’re gonna give him the first overall pick. I know you got to be uh really really happy with where you guys at. Especially like seven months ago, Luka gets not seven months ago, a few months ago, Luca gets traded to the Lakers. Uh it was like one of the worst years in franchise history and then now you got Cooper flag. Um I think you guys kind of made out the trade at this point pretty good because you got AD Cooper flag first round pick and Max Christie. Um so pretty good deal for you guys in hindsight I guess before you make the pick. What a world of emotions here h you just uh have a crazy crazy turn of events. Luca gets traded. Daniel Gaffford hurt. Kyrie Kyrie Irving hurt. All of a sudden, you go from being a surefire playoff team, a team that just made the finals to now having the first pick in the draft unexplainably. It’s pretty crazy. Uh, but as you could predict, obviously the Mavericks here will select Cooper Flag, the new face of the franchise with Luca Donuch playing in Los Angeles. Uh, very happy to have Cooper Flag. Uh, just a a two-way star, honestly. Um, somewhat in the shades of Jason Tatum. Of course, there have been some comps to Kawhi Leonard as well, but I think all things considered here for Cooper Flag with the defense wins championships mantra over there in Dallas. They’re going to be quite happy with what he gives them on both ends of the floor moving forward. And Nico, he’s a genius, man. Defense does win championships. He’s right. Uh people doubting him, but I mean, hey, it I I know he’s feeling really excited because you gotta think about like, damn, he had to feel so relieved after the death threat he was getting, all the fan hate he was getting, the the pressure from the media. A lot of that should be alleviated now with Cooper Flag coming into town, um and their future looking a lot brighter than it was. I I would definitely rather have Cooper Flag, AD, um and Max Chrissy than Luca because Cooper Flag is on a rookie scale extension. Um, so you don’t got to give him a super max. I know Lucas all world top three player in the world franchise great, but I think in about three years the Mavericks fans will be fine. Honestly, they’ll be fine. Um, but um, Sheldon, just so you know, for when we do um, picks we do with the first overall pick, we say like Okay, gotcha. My fault. My fault. Yeah, I gotta tell everybody. Latif loves his Tik Toks. Latif needs everything to be Tik Tokified just so it’s easy to clip. Yeah, I can’t can’t blame him. You want to disperse? I think what uh that’s Jaden’s pick. Go ahead, J. Oh, did he I didn’t know if he did already. Um with the second pick, the San Antonio Spurs, like Dylan Harper, just second best player in the draft. Um kind of gives me like Kade Cunningham vibes, just a big guard, gets a rim, score. So I I got Dylan Harper at two. Much has been made about this fit. I don’t know if they keep Dylan Harper considering some of the options they can do as far as trades, but I also agree that Dylan Harper is the second best player in the class. Um, a few people have soured on him because, um, his lack of pull-up shooting in the mid-range and from three, but uh, I think Dylan is a good athlete. He can get to the rim whenever he wants to. Um, he’s a pretty good passer and playmaker. He can grow in that regard, too. and when he is locked in defensively, um he can be serviceable on that end as well. Um but from what he’s put on tape over the last couple years and at records, I think he definitely is the second best player in the class. Some people would doubt him. Um but I’m very firm on he can be a uh allstar level guard, maybe a little bit below that. I think I think he’ll work best in his secondary role. uh probably not a primary like creator because of his lack of uh jump shooting, but if that can improve, he definitely can do that. Um I think he’ll be a fine shooter. I’m not expecting anything more than that. Um probably about 35. I do think here with Dylan Harper, one of the things that has been quite undersold with him too specifically is his ability to handle the rock. Uh if you look at his statistical profile compared to Cooper Flag, he shot 7% better on twos this year than Flag despite being a smaller prospect than Flag. And obviously Flag, there’s so there’s so much potential with Cooper in a variety of different roles. But Harper, you look at his ability to split in the pick and roll, reject ball screens, get downhill, finish at the rim, and then, you know, obviously those questions with the pull-up shooting. I understand some of the concerns about the actual results, but I think the process is there specifically for him um in terms of the decision- making when to take pull-up jump shots, when to re uh turn them down to get all the way to the rack. So, um for San Antonio, I understand the questions about fit because they do already have members in that back court. But I I do think for San Antonio, pairing him with WebMyama, you’re just getting more talent and more decision-m which will help Wembi, which will help Vel if they do keep him long term. uh and will be a nice ancillary piece off of the Fox WBY two man game to begin with. Um quick question for I guess everybody here. Is anyone up in the air about if a trade ends up happening the idea of trading this number two overall pick or a Stfan Castle? Is anyone thinking to keep Castle over Dylan Harper or the number two overall pick? No. No. Make sure. Just making sure. Just making sure. People talk about the rookie of the year. Yeah. Yeah, I think I think Harper’s handle is probably the best in the class. Maybe Jeremiah F is better. Maybe uh I think uh Jace Richardson is up there as well, but I think Harper has an argument for the second best handle in the class. Um but yeah, I understand that as far as the process with his shooting, I think he just needs to change his form is like the problem I have with it. Like the shot is his release is very low, the release point is very low. Um and it it hurts him in the mid-range because not only is the release very low, but in the mid-range he doesn’t get enough elevation. So, the looks can look uh very like they look very bad. A lot of bad misses in the mid-range for him and from three. Um I think another thing that’s been under discussed and I think you saw me talk about this on the timeline. I know Q did for sure. Um is his offball game and that’s why I think he can be a secondary creator because he’s shown the ability to cut off the ball uh rec relocate off the ball and come come off pin downs. So, not only is he is he a pretty good on the ball player, um, and he’s going to provide some on ball juice, but he can, I think, fit around different types of guards because of how well he can play off the ball. Can you anything to say about Dylan? No, I I think I covered it. Like, true. There’s no there’s no way I’m keeping Cass over him. There’s no way I’m picking another player over him right here. I think no matter what direction you go, I think Harper’s the clear, the second best player in this class. So, I think I have three, right? Yeah, I think the draft starts at three. I’m not gonna lie. Um, I do think the draft starts at three. I think I’ve talked about this at length on my Twitter, but I think the Sixers have uh a couple options here. They can trade down for sure. They can they can trade down and get a queen or just draft Queen uh and fit him next to MB. They can draft Ace Bailey if they like Ace Bailey. They can drive VJ Edgecom. I wouldn’t be mad if they dropped Connor Koopa. I wouldn’t be mad if they drafted uh Trey Trey Johnson either. Um they have a bevy of different options um at this spot, but with the third overall pick, the Sixers are going to select VJ Edgecom. Um I think this team is in desperate need of athleticism. Um they’re in desperate need of connectivity as far as passing. Um, I definitely am a lot lower on VJ’s defense than I was at first. Um, it’s definitely not just like it’s not like there like um his point of attack defense was pretty subpar this year. Um, not the best at getting um like through screens. I think he his numbers as far as like his steal percentage and his block percentages were really good because he’s really good as in um pass lanes. although he does gamble too much. He’s a really good uh guard rim protector as far as like getting blocks and stuff like that. And he’s really aggressive and his motor is really good as well. Really good offensive rebounder obviously. But early on I think VJ is going to be come in and defend. He’s going to come in and uh hit spot up threes. He’s going to be able to uh quickly um I think make reads um in the half court and obviously he’s going to be um a really good piece of transition. My drawbacks for him is the half court play can get really shaky especially if his three point shot is not falling down because his finishing around the rim is a lot worse than what you would think for a player of his athleticism. Uh so I think it’ll help if he put on weight. Uh, I think it’ll help if he learns how to dail a bit more than what he is, uh, doing right now. Um, he still kind of feels like a safe prospect, but he still has some of those red flags, and that’s what’s scary with this draft to me. I think outside of the top two, you can poke holes in a lot of prospects as far as like this can go very bad for them. Um, but I think VJ is probably the most NBA ready prospect that also gives you good defense at this spot. Like I think Khan is very NBA ready, but uh he gonna have his drawbacks on defense. Um, Ace I think can contribute early on, but he has his struggles which we’ll talk about whenever we get to him. But yeah, that’s that’s what I’m doing at three. Sorry for the long windwinded um explanation. What’s your guys thoughts on that? I think his a lot of his a lot of what comes with like players like him is that since he’s a a uber athlete, he tends to use his athleticism more than like being like technically sound. So like he gets caught like certain situation, but I mean he’s still a very good prospect. Depend on where he goes. I think he’s going to make an immediate impact anywhere. What do you think, Max Shen? I’ve gone with Ace Bailey here consistently in the past. Uh, I think I get what you’re saying with the like the more 2-way ability. I think I got Ace Bailey stuck in my head as a Michael Porter Jr. kind of guy. And I think with that team, um, the lack of sec secondary and third scoring when Joel Embiid or Paul George or Tyrese Maxi would be out was very, very needed. Um, I I get the inefficiencies. I think that playing with other players will kind of help that and kind of make him take smarter shots at times. I think his shot diet could get shortened a little bit. Um, I’ve definitely fallen more on the positive sides with Ace Bailey, but I understand the negatives for sure. Um, that’s where I just see the offensive game compared to VJ Edgecom. But I I think specifically for Philly, um, if they do go with Edgecom at three, I think the the most fascinating thing will be for a team that is relatively small um, across the board and then also looking at their matchups with some of the better Eastern Conference teams. You look at the size and length that New York has, you look at obviously when Boston is healthy, which is now not in, you know, not a reality for them going into next year, but going into future seasons. Um, a back court of McCain, Maxi, and Edgecomb, I think is more concerning to me than even what San Antonio possesses with. If they do in theory keep Castle and Harper both with Fox, uh, I think Castle can guard up and down the lineup a lot better than Edgecomb can at this present time. Obviously, uh, I I, you know, I do believe in the long-term defensive potential that Edgecom possesses, but I do think the slight frames of both Maxi McCain will be interesting problems for them against some of the Eastern Conference teams if they do go Edgecom at three. So, I’m not really So, like I still want to see more from McCain. I’m I’m pretty fine with him coming off the bench um down the line. Um, I’m not I mean he can definitely be a starter level player, but I think a lot of people have jumped on McCain train because he he had a good great like 15 games to the season. There’s still a lot to see with McCain. Um, for all we know, I think he can still be like a a really good player off the benchm or something like that. Um, and I’m fine with having that three guard lineup, but just having Edge home at the two and Maxi at the one. It’s not not the greatest playmaking um, from a playm standpoint at all. Um but um I think especially if Edgecom can improve his handle, which I didn’t talk about with his weaknesses, his handles needs to improve. He needs to improve as a pull-up jump shooter because he didn’t really show that. Um I think if he hits his like 80th percentile outcome, he’s he’s like a Victor Odipo type of player and that’s who I I’ve comped him to uh at his like if he hits his his uh outcome. I think he’s a a good balance of a player that has a relatively high floor and can get to some higher percentile outcomes because of his athleticism. So, we can move on though. We got to spend 10 minutes on VJCOM. At four, it is uh Max Q’s got four. My bad. Oh, with the fourth pick in the 2025 NBA Jazz Charlotte Hornet select come on watch. Okay. Yeah, take ace. Nah, I don’t know. Well, once you you pulled the trigger on not picking him down, like it made it easier for me. Like I was going to make this pick anyway. Uh I wasn’t even going to go VJ, but since you took video over the board, it made my pick even easier. Uh again, they should be getting rid of uh Mark Williams. At least they tried. Uh need a big uh can play drop, show some shooting touch. uh could be a live threat. Obviously, he’s like still very raw. Uh just start out playing basketball, but Charlotte Horn is not in no position to be winning right now. So, that gives you the runway to at least give him time to develop, you know, into a real big. I think he’s still one of the better prospects in his class. And I think it’s a seamless fit. Um I like the pick. I think I made this pick a few times because I think Mark Williams, their situation is just weird right now. They try to trade him in in the season. Um they could be looking for a big I think Kaman Malu is a player that has I want to say that he has a safe floor. Um but again these prospects they have weaknesses. I think I think Kamadan is going to be a run rolling big that can protect the rim um and and drop he’s he is massive. So um I think that kind of like his defensive potential is is really great. Like he can be all NBA level defender um if everything comes together. Um the touch on the rim is really nice. The touch from the free throw line is really nice. His priors from before Duke um suggest that he could potentially um develop as a shooter which I think he can. Um he has really nice touch like I just said and when he played in the African League overseas he shot more threes and he shot more mid-ranges and um in the Olympics he shot he shot uh some shots. I don’t think um Duke used him in a way that was like conducive to show how well he can play. Didn’t give him any post touches. didn’t really allow him to shoot. He was just basically setting screens protecting the rim, which is what he can do at his floor. But I think because he just started playing basketball and because he showed touch around the rim um and touching the free throw line, he could become like a running big that can also stretch out and knock down some threes and pick and pop. Um and this team has needed some run protection for a while now. U so I like the pick. What you think Sheldon Q? I absolutely love this pick on the offensive side of the floor for Charlotte. I I think not enough discussion has gone into what kind of player Maluash can be offensively as a screen set role guy. And if you think about LaMelo Ball, he should be smiling ear to ear right now because he’s going from having Taj Gibson as his long roll partner there in Charlotte to now having a 7 foot2 player with a huge catch radius. Somewhat reminiscent of Larry Fitzgerald now playing in Charlotte here on the offensive glass. He’s going to be able to get active. if he’s going to clean up second chance opportunities for them. Very good touch below the rim like uh Latif talked about. I think all things considered here for Charlotte offensively. This is great. Now the concern for me with keeping Malawatch in North Carolina is specifically on the defensive end of the floor. I think this needs to be step one for Charlotte. Getting a rim protector like Malawatch, whether they keep Mark Williams or not, is a good starting place. But they need more good point of attack defenders. One of the greatest strengths for Duke this past year that contributed to Malawatch’s plus 53.0 you know, net rating was their collection of defenders around him to maximize his rim protection and shot blocking where there’s always a guy riding the hip of the ball handler or cutting him off and limiting the depth of the drives. And I think specifically Charlotte right now is really absent of those kinds of defenders. So I think the Hornets still need to go out try and find other ways to drastically improve this defense around Malawatch, but offense this is a home run pick for Miller, for LaMelo Ball, and for Charles Lee there in Charlotte. What’s your thing, Max? I think the more we’ve we’ve you’ve mocked this I think the past two or three times we’ve done it. I think the more I see it, the more I like it. Especially in the LaMelo Ball kind of thought process, um having him in pick and roll, finally giving him some sort of threat. Like I think you look at the people on the board getting a Trey Johnson, getting an Ace Bailey. How different is that to what you have in Brendon Miller currently as like another scoring option? I think Malawak is the only person who kind of gives you a little more versatility, who gives you a little bit of a different look than the other guys on the board who just provide offensive help. Um, I think having Malawatch as finally a rim protector, finally a rim runner, and if he can’t actually shoot the basketball, um, that just unlocks them balls game that much more. Jay, what you think of this pick, Kamal F4? Oh my god, bro. I don’t know much about him, but the whole like Mark Williams thing, if you’re trying to replace him, I think that’s a perfect fit, especially if he’s a rim protector. So, who’s at five is gonna be me. Me. Okay. Uh, with the fifth overall pick. Yeah, I already picked him. With the fifth overall pick, the Utah Jazz will go with Trey Johnson out of Texas. Um, with Trey Johnson, I think you’re looking at Utah’s got nobody. Utah has This is confusing because you would have picked Ace at three. So, not taking at five is I know it’s And again, it’s just because the amount of shots and the efficiency. Trey Johnson was significantly more efficient this year than Ace Bailey. So, in a role where you’re going to be shot chucking with no one else on that team, um, I’m gonna go with Trey Johnson in that 66 shooting guard role. Again, they have no guards. You have you drafted way too many front court players over the last couple years I think to justify going with Ace Bailey right now whether regardless if they’re going to be traded or not. You have like the Taylor Hendricks of the world, the Cody, like all these guys that they try to stuff the front court with who aren’t really doing much. But you have Lori and you also have Walker Kesler who for right now are the bestish player in your team because Colin Saxon and Jordan Clarkson I think will both be on the market. I think Trey Johnson as far as what he did at Texas, his play creation, being the number one as a freshman on this team, I think having no set point guard, he’ll be fine to still play create for himself and also get shots off efficiently. I It is funny. I know not going with Ace Bailey here after I would have gone with him at three, but they have a lot more playmakers to where I think that Ace Bailey could almost be a pick and pop kind of guy again like a Michael Porter Jr., I think Trey Johnson possesses a lot more of a creative game on a team like Utah where they just need any sort of creation possible. So, I don’t love the point guards on the board. I know with C I go with Caspers on a decent amount of mocks, but I’ll go with Trey here at five. Um, I mean I mean I have Trey I have Trey over a on my board. So, I mean I’m not I’m not I wouldn’t come in from from that perspective. Um, as far as the pick, I don’t I don’t hate the pick at all. Um, maybe would have looked at Khan. Um, for me, Trey Johnson, my only thing with going with Khan here, trust me, it crossed my mind, but like I think you go for a little more home run upside, like you’re just going with a safe pick, which isn’t necessarily bad. Um, if especially if you’re thinking that you’re in the Peterson, Boozer, and Debansa conversation next year, but like I don’t know. I don’t think going Trey is bad, especially with what’s laid on the board. What I wanted to respond to really, and I forgot about it, was you said um they have too much like forward depth. I think if you love Ace, you just love Ace, you take them. that this team doesn’t have enough like pro like I think great prospect on it to like you think Ace is a great prospect you love Ace just take him like I don’t think especially this higher draft you should be drafting necessarily for fit especially when you’re the Utah Jazz and you’re gonna be bad next year anyways um but as far as Trey Johnson I think he was miscasted in his role this year at Texas uh for one they didn’t have a point guard but two I think he’s he’s a more of a off ball player um he’s really good coming off screens and um pin downs um any type of screen, any type of off action, he’s really good at doing it. Baseline, out of bounds plays. Um he’s one of the persons at the combine that tested, well, not tested really well, but like it it went well for him because he’s like 6’5, 66, had a 610 wingspan. Um he was more efficient than Ace this year. I think he does have some shot selection issues. Um the main thing with Trey Johnson, I posted about it on Twitter, is that I think his passing is much better than um advertised. um when he with how he’s talked about in in like the consistence much better passer. Um so I think in the NBA he’s gonna be a really good offball player that if the handle continues to grow um if he can get to the rim better can be a really good on ball option as well. Um and also be like a secondary or tertiary uh playmaker in offense. So I think that’s a really valuable guy. So, it’s really gonna matter about how good his defense is because I think like to be not to be harsh, his defense is legitimately terrible right now. Uh, it’s it’s awful. Um, Q, I know you’re a big Trey Johnson guy. What we thinking at five? I was surprised that he went Trey obviously over Ace. Uh, you right. You the level of talent they have. If you lost some guy, you should take him no matter what. Like they got a bunch of guards that they drafted in the past couple years, but if Dylan Harper’s on the board, you take Dylan Harper. Uh Trey a bucket a bonafide he’s not Devin Booker but he you know he’s of that like that variant like that Deon Vel which I think he could be better than Decel honestly but I mean it’s cool especially on this team Hardy he’ll get some good development able to get to his shot. Um I don’t always love his type of shots but I love his shots way more than I like his Bailey shots. So you’re right. If you are going to be chugging a lot of shots, I’d rather be you be efficient at doing so. Trey Johnson is more efficient than Ace B. Sh. What you think um about the pick, Sheldon? I I think I think for Trey Johnson um for Utah specifically, I I do think there’s a number of ways they could go, but I I do like this fit for them specifically as another play finisher archetype. I I think you know the earlier mention about being players in next year’s draft as well with a very stacked class coming in 26. This Jazz team still very pointedly is missing that initiator of offense that is going to be a highle on ball player. I’m not a big believer in Isaiah Collier. I’m not a big believer in Keonte George. And I think getting the infrastructural pieces if they do hold on to Lowry Markin keep Walker Kesler and and continue building around this core that they already have on roster. Trey Johnson can be another very good addition. And it takes one right decision, whether that be a big trade using some of their draft capital or one right draft pick where if they get lucky in next year’s lottery and move up, maybe they get a Darren Peterson to put around this infrastructure of players who can be play finishers around that. Trey Johnson to me is very eerily similar from a physical archetype to Tyler Hero. And I think specifically with his skill set can kind of emulate that as well in today’s game. We are at seven. Um Jaden, you’re New Orleans Pelicans. We’re not at seven, bro. This is This is Sheldon. This is We’re at six. My bad. How come you didn’t ask me about Trey, bro? What you think about Trey? Uh I mean, I kind of wanted him to fall to seven, but I mean it’s it’s cool. I got somebody else in mind. That’s That’s really all I wanted to say. Casper. Yeah, you got Casper. I know you love Casper, bro. We’re gonna have a certain guy falling then a little bit further, I think. Yeah. It just Well, now I know we’re gonna get a lot of uh casual comments, a lot of anybody gets a podcast mic comments because ACE This has got to be this got to go down to the Tik Tok. This will get some good Tik Tok interactions for sure. Yeah, because now Ace is is falling farther than people think you should. So, watching Wiz at six. Whose pick is this? This is mine. So, are we are we doing what we think will happen or what should or what we would do? What we what we would do? I Yeah, always go with All right. Ace is Ace is falling some more then. Um, with the sixth pick in the 2025 NBA draft, the Washington Wizards select Derek Queen out of Maryland, keeping him in the DMV area. And I think specifically for Washington, this gives them a very prime initiator of offense out of the top of the key out of delay action. They already have a very intriguing pick and pop delay action trail big man in Alex R. Now they get another one with a a varied skill set. Someone who can handle the basketball. I think one of the most coordinated players in this entire draft that shows up in his ambidexterity as a passer using his left hand on skip passes, crosscourt dimes out of the post. I also think specifically for his touch and his ability to gather the basketball. One of the biggest causes for his high turnover rate at Maryland was being called on travels on spin moves. I don’t really think that’s going to be a problem in the NBA with the slightly looser officiating and freedom of movement. I think he’s going to be an advantage generator. I think he’s going to get to the free throw line a ton and I think there’s eerie shades of Joel Embiid, Kevin Love, Alpne Shenun here in Derek Queen going to Washington and being one of the best offensive players on this Wizards team immediately. Um, Queen is somebody like right now I have him at nine on my big board. Um, my question is, is the offense going to be good enough to warrant the level of like def like warrant the amount of like uh investment you have to put into building a good defensive team around him? Now, he he did show signs of like solid perimeter defense over the course of the year. Um, but he obviously is not going to anchor a defense. He’s not going to really protect the rim. He does have good hands, which I I will say. Um, but I I’m questioning is the offense going to be good enough? Um, now this is a situation where I feel like he fits nicely next to Sar. They can kind of like cover each other’s weaknesses. That’s why I’ve consistently mocked him at six to the Wizards. And you get the story of like, yeah, he’s he’s the hometown kid, DMV. That’s a great story. Sar is a uh big man who protects the rim. He he theoretically can shoot the ball. Uh Sar is also a solid passer as well. Um, but Derek Queen is going to come in spot at the four. I think he plays he plays at four. He can get to the rim. um create advantages, uh dribble from the perimeter, um post up, um playmate out the post and all that type of stuff. I need to know if the defense is going to improve. I need to know if the shooting is going to improve. Um because I feel like um you have to invest a lot into building a competent defense around him. Thankfully, they already have bear. Um, but he I think he kind of got he gives me like shades of that like the Alpine Senon type of thing where I was questioning before this year. Um, Sing will be good enough offensively to warrant the resources you have to spend defensively to have him as like a good team defense. Obviously, Singon improved a lot defensively this year. Um, so he answered that question for me. I I just don’t know if I don’t know if Queen is going to be like good enough offensively. He does have really good footwork. He can dribble the ball from the perimeter. Um he’s a very skilled player. Um but I just don’t know. I still have questions, but everybody has questions. That’s I think my biggest selling point on Queen just to defend the pick even a little bit further here. If you’re trying to guard him, I if you’re questioning his offense, I want to know what kind of player you’re putting on him in a matchup. Because if you’re putting a traditional five on him, I think he’s going to have the foot speed advantage and the ability to beat him with counter moves. And I think if you’re putting a smaller guy on him, that’s where the functionality with the post up play, the short roll game, if you’re trying to switch against him, you’re going to have advantages on slips. I think there’s just a lot of different ways a coach can use him, which is what makes me so optimistic. Um, I do understand the questions because right now the three-point shot hasn’t really developed to a point where it’s super reliable and consistent early in his career. This is again a long-term projection pick on further development, but I think there’s a lot of sneaky advantages you can use him in in the half court depending on his matchup night in night out. I think as I watch these playoffs, like as I do every year, I’m more involved in the draft these last two seasons, but when I watch him, I’m like, can this guy survive in the playoffs? Um, and I think if Derrick Queen is going to be a um he needs to be a better defender to survive in the playoffs, and he also probably needs to be a better shooter to survive in the playoffs. Uh because I think players of his archetype, uh uh maybe this is lazy, but players of his archetype like Singon, he obviously played well relatively in his playoffs. uh deficiency wasn’t the best. Um he was getting guarded by Dr. Green though. Um but players like Sabonis and I like Sabonis basically have struggled in the playoffs uh because they are like nonshooting non-defending bigs. So we’ll see. I’ve done the same pick. I’m not criticizing your pick. I’m just like going over like the questions with this prospect. Um Max, what do you think? Um I think the defensive aspect you’re talking about, I almost think it was effort. I feel like I watched Maryland this year. I sometimes feel like the effort wasn’t always there on the defensive side. Like he might have the potential. It’s just like sometimes it looked like Derrick Queen wasn’t even trying. And I feel like that sometimes his game it just looks so simple and smooth that it’s almost comes off as like slow. But I like Derrick Queen a lot as a prospect especially sliding him in at a four. Like putting him next to Alex Sar in the four position I think is the dream spot to have Derrick Queen. um obviously have a lot of se like sevenfooters and if you are concerned about the defensive aspect like he can’t be a perimeter or a premier um rim protector. So I think with his offensive game you just have what how tall is Alex Sar 71 72 and you have Derek Queen at 610. So I think with the offensive game I agree with Sheldon he poses really really really interesting matchup questions for the opposing coach. Um, and again, I think with Washington as a whole, you’re just putting a bunch of pieces together currently. Like you got a couple two-way pieces. You I like Bub last year, like you have Sar. They have a lot of interesting players kind of going forward. And I think Queen kind of poses another matchup. Like they have a bunch of guys who are just questionable for matchups. Like I think when you’re the other coach, it’s kind of like you have a big guard, you have a offensive scoring big, you have seven foot Alexar, you have the lengthy Bal Koulabali. Like if these guys kind of pan out, I think you’re just kind of you have a ton of nightmares on the defensive side as far as matchups. So I think Dererick Queen just kind of adds to that. If those guys pan out and then they get like a high pick in 2026 and get a star like a a DP or Cam probably not Cam Boozer. Well, I mean you you if he’s there, you take him obviously. Um but they can get DP or AJ. Um this team could have one of the brightest futures like going forward in NBA. You’re getting a lot of complimentary pieces or what looks like it for sure. Yeah. not that high on Bub or or like Keshan Jordan. I don’t know. Um Jaden, you’re on you’re on the clock. Uh it’s New Orleans Pelicans. Um you got a few prospects on the board. Who Who do you want to select at seven? Uh seventh pick. I got the Pelicans taking Caspers. Um yeah, we need a we need a guard like bad playmaking. I just like when Zion has has a a playmaker next to him. So yeah, I I would love Caspers. I don’t know about how his shot will translate. I didn’t think he was a great shooter in college. So hopefully that translates, but I think this is a great pick, great fit next to Zion. Q, what do we think? We got we got uh you got you got Zion the point guard. Uh, I say this would have like this probably was like probably seen as great like early on in the year like beginning of the school year like when he was on a tear but you know as the season went on like it got once you like you really dig into it it’s like a lot of things like athleticism there his ability to like win people off the dribble getting to the rim uh finishing at the rim uh his offensive arsenal itself self like in terms of like self-creation is kind of bleak. Uh loves the step back three, but on the surface, yes, like he he can pass the ball. Yes, he can shoot the ball. Uh I think those two is kind of essential if you’re going to play next to Zion. Zion’s going to have the ball in his hand most of the time, then it’s a lot of pressure like off of him himself. But like just for the for the sake of positional value, then I guess this is a good fit. Like I said, I liked him better earlier. Uh, obviously he has a lot of flaws, but everybody got a lot of flaws. Probably would have could have went a different way here, but if you want to go back, who would you have went? You would have went like fears or something. Uh, not no definitely not fears. It’s like I don’t I don’t think it needs to I don’t think you necessarily needed a guard. Like if you’re going in if you already have your mind set on taking a point guard, then you’re kind of like limited on how you trying to build a team. But if you’re going all in with Zion getting the ball in, kind of doesn’t really matter. Uh I don’t really trust him enough like super on ball to be a league guard for 35 plus minutes a night just yet. I still have some work to do, but it’s a solid pick. I mean, I agree with a lot of IQ. Um I had Cas at three at some point in his in his cycle. That’s how good he was playing. Um I had Cas at three. I’m much lower armed now. Uh to be honest, he’s somewhere near like 14 or 15 on my board. Um to to to respond to Jaden, I think Cas will be a good shooter in the league. He shot 33% from three on um I think like 10.3 attempts per 100. He has a good free throw shooting. Um so he’s going to be a good shooter. I think he’s also a very good passer. The way he processes the game in the pick and roll is really good. Not denying any of that. Um, I think his turnover concerns are more so because he’s not strong with the ball at all. Um, and he’s also his handle also can get better as well. It’s not really dynamic. Um, it’s functional, I think. It’s not dynamic. Um, he just need to be stronger with the ball, handle pressure better. Um, and that that’s like the pathway to him becoming elite guard in the NBA. Um, taking care of the ball better. Um, getting to the rim more. um not relying so much on screens, but the relying on screens thing is not that big of a deal. Uh NBA offenses do use screens all the time, every every D every single play down the floor. Um I think with Casper is I think the defense uh is an issue. I think his athleticism is an issue. Um and that’s that’s pretty much it. I think for me he’s a simple he’s a simple evaluation. Um shooting playmaking, can he be your lead guard is the question, but that’s that’s really it and a defense. Um, but I don’t hate it. I don’t hate it at all. Um, I think this draft where it’s like if a prospect goes to like seven or eight or 15, I’m not really like thinking too much into it. I think this class has a lot of players that can be quality start starters. Uh, quality starters, quality role players. I think Casper can at worst be a quality role player. he can probably be a quality star starter. If you have enough defense, shooting, and athleticism next to him. Like he was playing on BYU this year, he would look a lot better probably. Um because because how good their offensive system is. Um Max, you you well, you’re not you’re not a uh Illinois fan. You’re a Michigan State fan, but I know you watch a lot of Casper because uh you watch the Big 10. What you what do you think of this pick? I mean, I’ve mocked this before. I’ve mocked him and Jeremiah Fears both going here. I think um New Orleans is in desperate need for a point guard. So if someone falls to him, great. If they can trade up for Dylan Harper, like even better. But I think addressing the point guard position hopefully to have someone play alongside Zion is huge. Casper, we talked about it a lot last couple episodes, but his play was just so inconsistent throughout the year. Like you just saw some great moments and some terrible moments from him. Um you got I guess you got to give it to him. Even when he wasn’t shooting the ball well, he was still shooting the ball. So shot diet in that regard. just sometimes he’d be super inefficient for a game and would just keep shooting. Um like it was just kind of questionable. I don’t know. I think sometimes like he I’ll watch the game and I watch him play and like wow he can go top five. Other times I watch him play and he doesn’t even seem like a starter. So again going with Caspers in the past I think if he pans out he could be a perfect passing and play creating point guard for Zion. But it’s the if that kind of sticks with me. Sher, what you think? I I think this is a a great fit here for New Orleans to be honest with you. I I think you know earlier we touched on Dylan Harper off the ball and how he’s been undersold a bit with his offball movement, cutting ability, spot up play. I think for Yakonis, I think he was completely miscast this past year at Illinois as the sole creator of offense because I’m just not a big Kylin Boswell guy. I did not trust any of the offensive process when Kylin Boswell was manning the ship so to speak for Illinois. And I do think for Yakone as part of the turnover rate you had talked about the handle. I do think there are some concerns there in terms of being able to win in isolation one-on-one matchups in the NBA. I think he’s one of the most screen reliant prospects in this entire draft. But at the same time, you put him into New Orleans system, which is going to have zoom action. You’re going to play off of Zion, look to get him the ball in the in the pocket, look to get him the ball in short roles. I think Yakatonis’ overall feel, size, and positional playmaking capabilities, whether he’s on or off the ball, will be really valuable here for New Orleans. I think it’s a great fit into their offensive team context with a very good team defense already built around him in my opinion moving forward with Me’s rim protection, Trey Murphy’s length. Uh, and hopefully if you get an engaged Zion Williamson and a healthy one, this Pelicans team can be pretty solid. Yeah, I think Mi will also be a decent screening ro for him with his athleticism and and Casper’s ability to throw lobs like that. Um, again, I’m lower on him now, but I think if he gets in a situation where he’s drafted by um the the Pelicans or he’s drafted by maybe even like the Raptors or something like that, um it could be advantageous for his uh development. All right. Is it me at eight? Yeah, I think it is. Okay. Number eight is who? Um Brooklyn. Brooklyn. Okay. All right. I’ll stop there. I I’ll stop say it should be it should be nice. I mean crying. Um he definitely isn’t going next pick either. So he might just get it over with right now. And I don’t even he’s not going to 10 either. I don’t think he fits well at 10. I’ll scoop him at 11 at Portland. Worst case scenario. So bro, just take him, bro. He wants to take Khan so bad. He wants to take Khan. That’s literally what I’m thinking about right now. I want to get Khan. They already got Khan on the roster. Who is that? Cam. Cam. Cam John’s gonna be moving on pretty soon. Having two of them ain’t bad either. Damn, bro. I have over Ace as a prospect again. I I don’t know. Um, I think it’s it’s it’s because Brooklyn I don’t think this is a good situation for him. I’m not gonna lie. I don’t really want I don’t really want him to be drafted be a normal guy. I just don’t want that. I don’t want that to happen phrase. I think Jordy Fernandez could try to use him like he uses Cam Johnson. Um, but if if Ace is going is going into a situation where he’s gonna be a number one guy, I think he can develop some even worse habits than he have now. That’s why I’m really pausing right here at this pick because you can make the case Ace is the best player on the board and I’ll hear you out. Um, and I’m I think I’m higher than on him. He has better like best player on a team potential than like the other players. But if you’re punting on Ace, then you’re like, you take Khan, you’re basically telling yourself that you’re looking to get probably your guy next year or like you’re bringing somebody in and then you’re just you’re using like Khan as like to go along with the guys that you bring in because that’s the only way it kind of like makes sense because if you’re drafting Ace, you need Ace to be the guy. You’re going to try to develop him to be the guy. You don’t really want him as like your sidekick. Yeah. Unless it was in like Philly. I think I think I’m higher on Ace than in like draft Twitter. Um but I’m lower on him the consensus. I think I have him at like eight or nine on my board right now. And Ace like I don’t know. I just feel like it can it can go bad if he gets drafted into like we’re gonna give you the ball uh 30% usage as a rookie. I think he can develop some really bad habits. But I really like him as a offball player u with some on ball juice um play finishing um defending. I my problem is I don’t know if that’ll be Brooklyn’s vision for him. I really don’t know. Um I’ve seen how they’ve just handed us to to uh Cam Thomas. Um so I don’t know, man. Um but I’m gonna do it. I’mma do it. With the eighth overall pick, the Nets are going to select Ace Bailey. Um, this team is devoid of talent to be honest. Uh, I think they can buy into uh the theoretical upside of Ace Bailey. U, I’m not sure that they will manage him correctly. But my thoughts on Ace Bailey, and I’ve spoke at length about this over the last few days, um, is I think he can be a really, really good offball player. He was really good coming off of screens and cut I mean um screens and curls and um baseline out of bounds and um a bevy of actions this year. Um I paused because his shot selection is legitimately awful. Uh his feel for the game is pretty bad as well. Um but he is a plus athlete. I think he is a uh he can be a plus defender on the next level if he can stay focused because he he does fall asleep a bit. But what 18-year-old doesn’t? Um, I think what what’s going to hold him back from reaching like primary status is the field and his handle, which is not good enough. Um, and he also needs to put on weight. Doesn’t get to the rim enough um to be a primary at all. I think Ace can be a second option on a good team, probably a third option on a championship winning team. Um, is what I view him as. I only Paul I don’t know how team’s going to use him. If I knew if I knew a team wanted to use him like Muel Bridges like a Cam Johnson like a MPJ I’ll be much higher on him but I just don’t know. So what we think um Sheldon I I think the Ace Bailey dilemma this draft is one of the most fascinating because you have people who are so high on him to the point where they think San Antonio should draft him over Dylan Harper which I think is ludicrous. Um, and then you also have the other side of the spectrum that thinks he is perhaps the biggest bus prospect in this class. And I don’t really agree with either side of those things. I think he is a pretty high floor, fairly low ceiling player. And I know that’s going to sound crazy and some people are going to think I’m stupid saying that. Here’s the thing. You look at some of the best players in the NBA. What’s the common denominator? They can dribble the ball. They can get to spots on the floor. They can score for themselves. Ace Bailey’s had the opportunities. ranked in the 99th percentile for Ruckers this past year in isolation volume across all of college basketball. The issue, he wasn’t good in isolation. He thinks he’s Carmemelllo Anthony, but if you go back to Carmelo Anony’s game, it all comes out of the triple threat being able to beat people with his first step, exert rim pressure, and then from there, he had the jab step, pull up, able to knock down the long ball as well. Ace Bailey, there’s the potential as the shooter to be an effective player like we’ve talked about as an offball guy. The issue is you have to rewire him mentally to be willing to do that. He doesn’t want to do that. He doesn’t catch, shoot. He doesn’t catch go. He catches, thinks, then does something. And I think for his NBA projection, there’s a lot of tools. He has kind of the physical gifts that you would look for in a number one, number two overall pick typically. I think it’s a really tough challenge though for a coach to really truly maximize him as a player in the NBA. I agree with all that. I agree with all that. I just made a video about that not too long ago. Um, Max, you wanted to select him at three. He falls eight. What’s your thoughts? You’re the biggest ace fan on the spot. I wouldn’t say biggest Ace fan. That’s kind of crazy. Does he remind you of Brandon Miller? That’s why you like him so much. Huh? Does he remind you of Brandon Miller? Because you remember you you wanted to pick uh Brandon Miller over Scoot. I remember you had to take I think Brandon Miller’s game is more polished. So, no. Um Okay. Yeah. It was a sle person on here wanted Brandon Miller over Scoot. No. Huh? The jury still out. The juryy’s still out. Okay. Um, no, I think I don’t know. I just think fitwise with Philadelphia, I feel like the shot diet just dies. So, I just don’t think like the pressure is as big. Brooklyn’s similar to Utah for me where you just need scoring. Um, you already have Cam Thomas like I guess as someone who’s just shot chucking, but like Oh, man. Cam Thomas and Ace Bailey together. Oh, that’s gonna that’s gonna be entertain the hoops, bro. I just think right now like again we’re Huh? and Kaminga. Yeah. Kaminga. Kaminga. Ace. Kaminga Ace and um Cam Thomas lowfield hoops. Like that would be like a low field the most fun 28 win team of all time. I just feel like Brooklyn’s just got so low stakes to miss on a pick right now. I’m sorry, but like taking a swing on Ace Bailey hoping for the best. I just don’t think it’s crazy. Like Brooklyn just needs something. Um they have so many first round picks. I think they have four first round picks this year. Um, so maybe you package those and you try and move up. But like I really don’t think it’s a bad choice. Like especially if Cam Johnson’s gone and Nick Claxton’s gone. You’re really playing for nothing this year and you put Ace Bailey there as a pure scoreer. Like just see what he can do. Give him the rock and see where he goes. But all right, so number nine is Q. Yeah. Yeah. This is the uh the Raptors. They wish Queen and Malawatch still here right now. They really wish they would have got lucky with the draft lottery. Uh, best player. Best player available, man. It’s easy. It’s easy, man. Let him make his pick, bro. Let him make his pick. Let him make his choice. This team needs a center. They need a big I also think. Yeah, they need shooting. They also need a point guard, but man, quickly they also need a point guard, but I don’t like to fit with my guy right here. I think he wants to go CB. He wants to go CB right here. I do. No, outfit is awful. Yeah, it just it don’t it don’t work. Sounds like something jury would love. They need some shooting, some secondary playmaking, some offball movement. Um about somebody about 67 six uh six I don’t know anybody I don’t know maybe somebody I don’t know I don’t know Q go to the beat your own drum you got this que you talk about Nick Clifford right know 22 on his board you know What the ninth pick in the 2025 NBA draft, the Toronto Raptor is going to select Carter Bryant. Uh he if you with Carter, he does everything like he does everything. I don’t I’m not gonna say everything well, but he’s one of those like he fits in type of players. like his number not going to show cuz he ain’t play a lot but like you could just see like he could pretty much do everything on the court. Uh the fit with the Raptors is kind of weird because they’re very wing and heavy. Uh but he doesn’t he does I don’t think he will get in the way and I don’t expect RJ Barrett to be there. Uh Jacobe Walter and uh Grey Dick doesn’t really stop you from know making play minutes. So, I think it’s the board felt bad for them. The draft itself felt bad for him, but I think that’s this is probably a decent fit for where they at on the board. Um, I love Carter Bryant. I think consensus is is finally catching up to where he’s supposed to be going. Um, well, maybe not this high, but consensus is finally up. And Arizona didn’t play him enough. They they were much better when he was on the floor. I don’t know why it took them so long to figure that out. He’s going to give you uh he shot 37% from three this year on decent volume. He is literally probably a top five defender in his class. Uh versatile defender. Um he creates events as well. Uh he’s a really good defender. Um I don’t know. They they’re pretty wing heavy and I don’t think he can start right away because having him in the lineup with BI and um he could they would be they would be huge. Um low key. Uh maybe he could start. Um but I think Carter Bryant’s like handle. He doesn’t like create his own shot really at all. You know what you’re getting. It’s three and D like but the defense maybe like the defense may be all NBA level. That’s that’s that’s a sale. The defense may be all NBA level and then he can shoot a three. I know like there was a there’s a obviously I would go Khan here, but I think it serves serves him better to go the next pick, right? I think it just falls better for that. Like for his He may don’t play rookies, man. So, who knows? I was I was going to go Carter Bryant the next pick. So, it’s funny you swapped it for me. Oh, excuse me. No, no, no. I’m saying that if Khan was there, I assume you were taking Khan, so I was go Carter, swapped it. All right, let’s move on to the Rockets. Um, what do what do we think they need? Who who they drafting right here? Uh, with the 10th overall pick, the Houston Rockets will go with Khan Canupal. Um, I think Khan could play the two, could play the three. Again, I know we’re not a huge Jaylen Green podcast, so he might be on the move with whatever they do. I think this can kind of hopefully propel them to go get Giannis. And I think Khan’s a great player to put alongside Giannis. Obviously, 66 67. Um, I think he can score, he can defend, he can shoot. like I think he could fit on almost any team in the league and he’ll be needed on almost any team in the league. I would like to see Khan go to a contender. Um I think he could be a little more win now than a lot of other guys on this um in this draft. I guess I think he could be a little more pro ready and I think a team like Houston who’s just a two seed will need him to be a consistent 3D wing for the next couple seasons. So, um I think you tried it with Reed Shepard and I think you tried it again with Conan Nipple. Hey man, Khan is fourth on my big board. Um I I had him around like 10 to 14 most of the year and then he had that really great run in March and I moved him up. Um as every time I watch Khan, I get higher on him somehow. Um his processing is elite. Um he diagnoses the defense super quickly. Um his off ball skills are elite. Can come off screens. Um can attack and close out. Um really good. He’s he’s the second best shooter in his class behind Trey Johnson. Um and I think his handle is fine. His craftiness is fine. Now he definitely is a bad athlete and that’s where the concern goes because you kind of think like how high is the ceiling because he’s not a great athlete. Um, but I think he scores using his strength. He scores, uh, because he has a very good understanding of the game, um, of when to drive a closeout, um, when to try to get to the rim, when to shoot the ball. Um, he’s he’s great at using angles. He’s great at playing off two feet. Um, and the Rockets can really use this. They need they need some, uh, playmaking. They need some shooting very, very bad. Um, they tried to get it with Reed Shepard who I think still be a solid player in the NBA, but Khan is almost like Reed Shepard without the like defensive playmaking at 66, 67 almost necessarily. So, he may doesn’t play rookies, but I think he’ll be I think it would be a mistake to not play this one. Um, honestly, I I love I love Khan here for Houston specifically. Like, you’re looking at a player who’s extremely decisive. I think that’s the key buzzword here when you when you look at Khan as a player is not only is he a shooter and of course people are going to label him as quote just a shooter in this draft, but I I think there’s a lot more in his game that comes off of that shooting gravity specifically when he catches the ball on the perimeter, whether it’s coming off of wide pins or or functioning as a go screener, Spain screener, whatever it may be. There’s there’s value when he catches the ball because of the kinds of closeouts he draws. you’re not going to be able to comfortably close out softly against him. And and because of that, his ability to get two feet to the paint and like Latif said, play off of two feet, play with balance, play with some functional play strength into traffic, into contact, make decisions off of that really all stems from his shooting where he’s going to be an elite shooter in the NBA. And the processing speed, I think, really benefits him as well when it comes to rounding out the remainder of his game. And I think, listen, I love it for Houston. They need more shooting. I do not love it for Eay Udoka specifically because of the lack of offensive creativity here. The Rockets have spammed using the dunker spot. I think that’s really great with their personnel. I think there’s a real lack of creativity with offball action. I think there’s a real lack of creativity with perimeter spacing and I think Khan would be best suited in a team context that utilizes that better like Indiana with Rick Carile. But of course, the Pacers aren’t here in the top 10, the Rockets are. I think this is still a very good pick for them skill set wise around Shangon and company. Key, where do you have Con on a theoretical board? He’s five. Okay, that’s good. Like I said, I I I kind of like manufactured this pick like for like for that purpose. I think he fits in like I think he’s best for like a team that’s trying to win. Like you don’t have to wait for a lot of development from him. like you are his base level skill set coming into the league is pretty fun for like a winning level team right now. Yeah. Uh I mean you don’t need a offensive coordinator badly for sure. All right. Um so if is it is it Jaden? Me with Portland here. I keep losing track. My bad. No, you’re good. You’re good. With the 11th overall pick in the 2025 NBA draft, the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Murray Boils from South Carolina. And I think for Portland specifically, this is an opportunity for them to continue building to their team defense. And I actually think, you know, people are going to question CMBB’s fit specifically without a true stretch big man. Of course, Aton can step out, shoot the ball, but I’m mostly focused on the long-term fit with Donovan Klingan, who they drafted last year in the top 10 out of Yukon. I think CMBB while yes Klingan there is some potential he could grow into a stretch big long term I really don’t care about that for them here I think mostly the playmaking hub that Klingan is as a handoff user at the top of the key as a facilitator on back cut something he did a lot for Yukon in his two national championship runs I think Murray Bole’s cutting connectivity play finishing at the rim really respectable rim gravity for a 67 player in the SEC I think there’s a lot of value here he was a huge positive for a very bad team in the gamecooxs and I going forward. Specifically, if you’re looking at how to improve this Portland team, getting someone who’s a lot better on both ends of the floor than Jeremy Grant, someone who actually rebounds the basketball, someone who can defend his position and provide help, I think strengthens Klingan’s defensive value a ton, too. So, for Portland here, a pretty easy pick for me going with CMBB at this spot. Um yeah, I definitely question the fit between Klingan and um and Kyler Murray both especially when you got like a point guard and um Shaden Sharp I mean not Shaden Sharp uh school Henderson who is improved as a shooter this year but still not the best shooter. Um I I mean it it makes a a solid defense. Um a solid defense even better for sure. Um, but yeah, I I like see him being a a lot higher than 11 and I I don’t hate it. I would just question like I think one of those Klingan or Murray ball is going to grow as a shooter to make it work in the playoffs. Um, number 12 is the Bulls. Uh, yeah. Go ahead, Jayen. Bulls. I don’t know. All his teams. The Bulls need like everything, bro. Except the guard. Yeah, you have too many guards, bro. Like too many. Available no matter what position it is. Not going to lie, it’s predicated on trading whoever else they get. Whoever else they have a hometown hero and Jeremiah Fierce potentially crying. Maybe he likes Heroes. Um, hey man, please. You got Jerger Demon who was a 610 Demig God point guard. Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. Oh man, you got you got you demon on the roster already. Um, yeah, like he can’t shoot, bro. He can’t shoot. Yeah, man. I really don’t know, bro. Should I go should I go like big here, bro? Yeah, I mean, I would I definitely would because um what’s his name? Vousvich is not gonna be there for I mean, he’s he’s at the tail of his career. I probably try to trade him next year. Take a pick of the best big you want. power for center. I’m not gonna lie, bro. I don’t know who this Noel guy is. Steve don’t like him. That’s who he is. He does not like him. I don’t think he’s a four. I don’t know if he’s a four or five. I feel like Noah Noah would be a Chicago Bulls kind of pick. No, I think Yeah, SN would definitely be a Let’s go with him. I don’t know. I don’t know these guys, but let’s let’s go with Let’s go with him. I I’ll educate you on him. So, Noah Sing, could you say at least at least say the uh you know with the 12 pick um Chicago Bulls select Noah Sing? All right. So, Noah Sing has been one of the biggest draft risers in his class as of late. Um I think I think the Bulls will definitely select him. He’s probably one of the best prospects available at this class. Um really good defender, really good in transition. He is surprisingly well not surprisingly but he’s really good at uh getting to foul line. Um they had a playoff game yesterday. I think he went 13 for 13 from the free throw line. Um really good offball cutter. Um and he is the second youngest player in his draft class. So theoretically um I think a lot of people that like Noah Sing think he has like this untapped potential. He’s got he got he’s got u comparison to Jannis Koopo. Like seriously comparison to Jan Kumbo. Um especially rookie Giannis. Um my concerns for him are just his handle is not good enough. I don’t know he’s gonna be great in the half court. Um don’t know if he’s going to be able to shoot it well enough. Um he needs to put on weight as well. Um and he needs to grow as like a quick decision maker out of short roll situations. Um but to to just harp on the points that people like about him, it is youth um measurables because he’s like 6’9 with like a six sevent wingspan. um getting a free throw line, playing in transition and defense. Is he is he more of like a wing or No, he’s a he’s a Well, he can’t be a wing. Yeah, sure. If the handle progresses right now, I think he’s more like a four to me. Show them what you think. I think he’s pretty position locked as a four to be honest. And and I think a lot of it stems from the same questions you have about his handle. um you know for I I’ve seen people even put him as high on their boards as number two in this class which I think is very optimistic. Um he’s he’s a very talented play finisher with great size for like in terms of like length and height and um I think he has a very instinctive way to play off the ball. I think his cutting uh his ability to play off the baseline uh and then ultimately quickly decide to attack the rim or attack closeouts. I think that’s really where you’re finding the value and I think you see that in his free throw rate this year um for Ratio Farm over in Germany playing off of Ben Raf like there’s value as a play finisher and I think for Chicago it’s a good fit because you have Kobe White, you have Josh Giddy, you play with a lot of pace, this team’s very quick, athletic around Vuchic who obviously doesn’t exemplify a lot of those qualities. So I do think Asen fits here pretty well but um in terms of the overall upside ceiling I am quite hesitant for the reasons you listed. Um K, what do you think to the Bulls? I think this is a very Chicago Bullsy pick. Uh you definitely get PTSD from Patrick Williams. think I was like that everything you said like that covered it like I think want to go big here but I’m not not that I’m like I probably would have could have went sober right here but you know it’s up in the air and it’s the Chicago Bulls you don’t know they might just do some some type of hail Mary like that. All right, next up is um at 13. That’s you, Latif. Oh, you know, I lost track already, so I don’t know. That’s That’s cool. Um, Atlanta Hawks. Um, I think this Atlanta Hawks need uh I could talk myself into another big um go with go just go with him. Just get him off the board. I mean I mean Fur is still out there, too. Yeah. I mean, another Oklahoma point guard. I mean, I I guess I mean, they do need a backup point guard, but I don’t know. Let me let me scan the board really quickly first. Um, sure. I don’t I don’t really I don’t like Fears that much. Like, I don’t like him more than um Fears that much. Since when? I like him. I want him to be good. He’s from Illinois, from Chicago. But I was sour on him. I was sour on him as a prospect. Um, and I’ll explain why. I’ll pick him. Um, but I like Jay better. Um, but with the 13th overall pick, the Atlanta Hawks are going to select Jeremiah Fierce. Fine. I’ll take him. Um, Fierce was really high on him, too. In the beginning of the year, I’ve been like I’ve released like a I was releasing a board every single month. So, um, when Fierce hit that high streak in the beginning of the year, I was really hot on He was at four on my board. Um, what I like about Fierce, um, he’s super young. I think the third youngest player in this class. Yep. And his handle really good. His ability to get to the paint really good. The uh, mid-range shooting really good. The free throw shooting really good. Um, the fact that he was able to handle usage like he did um, in the toughest conference in I think NCA history, really good. a lot of positives theoretically, but my issues come with he did not shoot the three ball enough for me. He’s a 62 63 guard. I want the I want the uh three-point uh volume higher. Um and he also finished around he finished like 44% at the rim and the half court. That is worrisome for me a little bit. Um he had incredibly high usage, played in the teleconference. So that combined with his age, that’s why evaluators like him. Um, I got him at around like 14, 15 because I think he’s at almost like a boom or bust prospect. It can go really good, but it can also go really bad. Um, or he can also turn out as like a backup point guard type of thing. Um, the the the Hawks need any type of creation outside of Trey Young. They’ve had need had to need a backup point guard for a long time. So, this is a fine pick. Um, but there’s a lot of things like about Jeremiah Fierce. I can’t get up to like top 10, top five with him, but he does have some upside for sure. He needs to improve. I do think he’ll be a good three-point shooter because the free throw percentage is high, the mid-range percentage is high. Um, he shot decent value. But yeah, that’s my spill. My my running comp for for fears in this uh historically is it was Kemell Walker, right? Yeah, Kemba Walker. Yeah, I think he’s a slightly taller uh Kemba and um there’s a couple ways to look at that. You can look at that as a great thing because Kemba was an allNBA player for a season, all-star multiple times, or you can look at it from the lens that Charlotte never won with him. Um and that if that’s your primary creator and he doesn’t do a lot of stuff off the ball and he’s not an elite defender, how do you win? Um and I think for Atlanta, obviously it’s a different team context. They already have a lot of pieces in place. I think he slates in very well there. Um, but we’ll see if he’s actually there on draft night or not. But, um, I think the Hawks are one of the places that could really surround him because they’ve already been doing that to try and surround Trey Young. So, it’s interesting. What percent out what percentile outcome do you think uh, Kim Walker is? Like 80th percentile. Like I I think that’s like one of his higher end outcomes, but it’s not like I don’t think unattainable in terms of the handle. Um, and you know, Kemba came out of college as a a junior um, out of Yukon. So, I think you’re looking at someone who the three-point attempt rate was pretty similar, free throw rates pretty similar. Um, especially like post like later college career, Kemba got to the free throw line a ton. I think that’s something Fears like as a freshman. I think Fears is ahead of Kemba in a lot of ways where Kemba was as a freshman. And then you also look at the fact that he reclassified up a year. Uh, you touched on how young he is. Like I I don’t think it’s an unrealistic individual long-term progression point, but the question and and this is something the draft community consistently misses. You don’t draft for 15 to 20 point per game scorers. You draft to win games. And you know, I think Atlanta is a great landing spot because of what they have there around him and and the efforts they’ve put into building a team defense. But um you know, I I seeing Fur and Trey together would be interesting because neither of them do anything without the ball in very Oklahoma Sooner fashion at the point guard spot. Yeah, they trade trade if he’s not at least. All right, 14 with the Spurs. Cute. With the 14th pick in the 2025 NBA draft, San Antonio Spurs select Rashier Fleming. I like it. I feel like in real life they’re probably Pop would probably pick like Liam McN, but he doesn’t provide anything but shooting. Uh like he literally doesn’t do anything else. is sure he’s a good rebounder. I don’t not in this aspect I don’t think he is shiz can defend uh can shoot the ball put the ball in for a little bit. Uh I think he’s not actually going to be asked to do a lot rotational player. I think eventually he could if they do move on from like a Sohand obviously a Harrison Barnes he ends up sliding and taking those minutes and him as a defender next to WB is going to be great. doesn’t have to really do much on offense. It’s pretty much just finishing plays because they have all the offense that they need on the team. I like the pick. I think he is a a good athlete. Um great defender. He can hit a spot on three. His issue is he can’t put the ball on the floor and he can’t pass. Um but you you probably only need him to do um shoot and defend. That’s all you cut. That’s really all you need him to do. um with if they draft Harper already got Darren Fox Wimby um Castle off the bench create offense you don’t really need him to do much as far as um anything else. So he’s also older so I don’t think he’s going to develop into much else than what he already is. Um but that’s that’s a solid rotational player uh if he can knock down threes. Um, so, um, go 15. I got easy one with 15. That’s you. That’s you. Yeah, exactly. I was originally like opposed. That’s nice. I was opposed the wrong word, but I think the fit obviously is there. Um, with the with the 15th overall pick, the Oklahoma City Thunder, we’ll go with Nick Clifford. I feel like this is the most thunder pick at the position right now. Um, I think this just I don’t know, just makes sense. Um, obviously he shot the three ball pretty well his senior year. I love the progressions though he made from his freshman to his final year in college. Um, he’s an older prospect. He’s 66. He got averaged almost 10 rebounds a game. His free throw his free throw percentage I think went up 20% from freshman to his final year. His three-point percentage kind of spiked sophomore year but went back down and then consistently went up. Like he’s been a much much better shooter throughout college. He can still rebound the basketball. he can defend. He’s this versatile player that we’re trying to get out in OKC. Um trying to have guys who can just guard different positions. So I think his shooting ability will be needed day one and I think his switch ability will also be needed day one. I want the Thunder to get more volume shooting. Um maybe it doesn’t need to come in the draft. Maybe you guys don’t need to pick a draft a player at all. Honestly, I think you guys have you need to stop picking players in the draft. Honestly, um at some point you need to move these picks. Yeah. Like the oldest the longest tenure guy is 2019. As far as as far as the pick though, I love it. I love Nick Clifford as a prospect. I think Nick Clifford is going to be a good NBA player, good rotational player, uh maybe a good starter. Um I did move him lower my board, I think, but he’s he as like dribble, pass, shoot. Um defend a little bit. Um and the Thunder are in desperate need of players that can actually drive a closeout because as you’ve seen in the Nugget series, no one can drive a closeout. Like literally no one. Even uh JDub struggled to do that. So it’s really only SGA. Everybody else can’t really drop a closeout out. Um so Nick Clifford can do that. Um he was able to scale up, he was able to scale down. Um super versatile player. Um so yeah, I like to pick for the Thunder. If you do select it here, he should be ready to win now. He’s kind of like that JDA player kind of like a a mid- major guy that was productive. Um Max, you should look you should look into Cedric Coward. I don’t know if you know about him. Yeah, he’s also Stanford Duke guy or Washington State and Duke guy. Yeah. Well, he’s not going to Duke, but yeah, probably not. Yeah, good pick though, Max. 16. Who is that? That’s me here with Orlando. Okay, with the 16th pick in the 2025 NBA draft, the Orlando Magic select Asa Newell out of Georgia. And I think specifically for the Magic here, um looking at what this team historically does, um they’re not going to draft shooting. Uh that’s very very clear here. This is something that they continue to push off and and avoid doing. Um so if you’re trying to pick the next best thing for them, something that can help their offense, which has continued to have playoff shortcomings year after year, the past couple of years under the Bonerro Vagner regime, I think you’re looking at ways to improve offensively by getting to the glass more. And that’s something Asa Newell does at an elite level. averaged 3.3 offensive rebounds per game this past year for Georgia and as a player who I think has some long-term intriguing potential as a role man specifically with his screen short role if you’re going to be uh be a big believer in his long-term touch development you look at the way that Avita Zubots has really developed over in Los Angeles as Newell a very different player in terms of the physical archetype not nearly as big bulky and strong as uh Zubots but if you’re hoping for the actual skill development I think Zubots is a great example of a player for him to watch and then there’s also some of that physical above the rim work to play with where you look at his proday specifically. Again, I’m not a huge believer in one-on-one workouts. I don’t really think it shows you much, but the athletic traits are there. He can get above the rim. He’s physically gifted, long, slender body, jumps well. I think there’s value there if you’re looking for a weak side lob threat, someone who can be a long roll pressure setter as well on the rim. Shot a few threes at Georgia, didn’t really have a ton of success with it. I’m not going to really hold a lot of stock in his shooting development long term. If he learns how to shoot, it’s a cheat code weapon for the Magic moving forward. I really do think Orlando’s best suited trading pick 16 and 25 together for an established point guard who can stretch the floor, shoot the ball off the dribble and off of pull-ups. I’m not sure if they’re going to do that, so they go Ace Newell here. I would have loved if they would have jabbed a Jace Richardson here. Um, I think they potentially have the uh defense around him to insulate him as as far as his uh size. He offers you shooting. Um, he can I think he can pass a bit. Um, he’s very efficient from basically every every spot on the floor. They need more shooting. They need more offense. Uh, I probably would have drafted Jay Richardson for uh for the Magic, but Aanuo while I’m lower on him um because I don’t think he’s going to be like a great run protector. Um, I think I kind of do buy the shot a little bit. Um he is a really good athlete as well, really good rebounder. Um and he was super productive at Georgia, one of the most productive freshman in the country. Um and they did like an athletic big for sure. Uh so you know it’s cool. It’s cool. I I think the Jace shout is a great one by the way. Those were the two players I was kind of going back and forth on here. I think Asa is probably the more realistic outcome for Orlando just given their draft history, which is ultimately why I went him here. But I do think Jace, one of his best possible outcomes is Orlando because you’re looking at putting him next to jumbo playmakers, bigger ball handlers to maximize some of his offball skills without jeopardizing your defense too much like you had talked about with the insulation around him. Um, and Bonero clearly fits a lot of those criteria. And then also Vagner and his development as an onball player uh from his time at Michigan has checked a lot of those boxes too. So I do think Jace is a very viable option at 16 if Orlando went that way too. Um, you’re at the Timberwolves with the 17th pick. Um, don’t know if Jaden is here. Um, Jade’s up. Jade’s Jade’s up with 17. He say here. Jade up 17. Okay. He’s using the bathroom. All right. So, with the 17 overall pick, um, the Timberwolves are going to select Jace Richardson for basically all the reasons I just said. They actually also have the insulation to to, uh, you know, help him. Mike Connley is um old and I think with Ants playmaking improvement, these guys can be the back court of the future. Now Dante’s still there obviously. So he want to start gear one and they obviously just drafted. Huh? Oh, you said back in the I forgot. I love Rob. I love Rob. It’s kind of looking spooky. I’m not gonna lie. Um, and what I what would I have taken Rob as high as I took him last year in this class or like when I think about how my draft philosophy has grown since then? No, too small. Uh, which Jason’s also small too, but he has a six six wingspan. Um, so that helps him. I think he’s going to be tendable defensively. Like he’s not going to be a negative at all. Uh, he is a much better athlete than he gives credit for. Um, that was shown at the combine with that 40inch vertical. Um, so yeah, Jay Richardson u connective off ball guard that can play next to a primary creator like Anthony Edwards. Um, I think he’ll compete different defensively. He’s a really good shooter. I think he was at 41% on like 7.3 attempts per 100. He got his free throw percentage is high. Uh, he can drive a closeout out. Uh, he can score in the mid-range. He’s one of the smartest players in his class, one of the most productive player in his class. He’s number 11 on my board. Um, I think his floor is like a really really solid uh rotational guy. Um, and I think he has some interesting ceiling outcomes as like a really high impactful role player. Max, this is your guy, Jace Richardson. I told you he was the best player on your team months ago. Uh, what do you think? I think when the measurements came out, everything was like that much scarier for me. Him only measuring in at six foot I think is something that being a Michigan State fan I feel like you could see at every game right with the naked eye you can see huh basketball play with shoes understand everybody’s got shoes on though so again him being shorter definitely scares me but like him coming into this year like he surprised me more than anyone else on the team obviously like his shooting ability his his defensive awareness but his effort his want to defend his want to score his want to be a team player like fitting on a team like Minnesota that’s win now I think Jayce is super super valuable to that kind of culture. And I think you have a couple teams later in the draft who would love to get Jayce mentality. Again, I feel like it’s a it’s a it’s cheesy, but like it’s a Tom Mizo mentality to defend, to switch, to shoot, like just to be active, to rebound. So, I think for a team like Minnesota, again, I think he’d be pretty plugandplay to throw in there and you could rely on him for regular season minutes. Maybe he is a playoff minutes kind of guy. It’s just the size. The size is the only thing that scares me that can affect his playmaking. can affect how he shoots the basketball, who he shoots over, but his finishing is dynamic. He can get to his spots and he is a microwave shooter. So, I really think that Jace, if he pans out, can be an elite role player for a lot of these teams later in the draft. But, I just hope that he can actually turn out into that and can bulk up or whatever, but the size doesn’t affect his play. Handle’s really nice, too. Got to mention that. Is it my turn to get at 18? I was like just Yeah, for the Wizards. Good luck, man. Um, Wizards at 18. So, the Wizards just selected Derek Queen at the four. Um, they got Sard momentarily. I think they go best player available here. Um, which I honestly think it’s Thomas Sher, but they already got a big, so, so I won’t do that again. Um, I I think I’m gonna take a wing. [Music] wing. Um, is such a coward on on this thing on here? Such a coward on here. I’m saying if you want to go all defense, if they want to get a all defense lineup, it’s definitely a person you could take. Cedric Cedric Card is probably not on this no sillings one. Shame on them. All right. I don’t see you could just say you could just say Cedric Coward and just drafting someone else. No, it’s fine. Uh with the 18th overall pick, the Wizards are going to select Noah Penda. Um I he’s a really good defender, one of the best defenders in his class. Versatile defender, can guard at the point of attack and um also switch a little bit. Um the three-point shooting was solid this year. Um you can put the ball on the floor as well and create for others as far as his passing. Got a really good feel. Um yeah, Noah Penda I think is rising a lot of people’s mock mock drafts. Uh draft Twitter loves him. Um I’ve watched some of his film and some a lot of his games. He’s he’s a solid player. I think he’s gonna be a high impactful role player because of his defense, because of his, uh, three-point shooting ability off the spot, like spotting up. Um, and his ability to, you know, pass the ball. He has really high field, really good defender. That’s pretty much it. Washington has, uh, they need good players and Penda is a good player. So, yeah, he fit right in. He’s French. Yeah, facts. Good, good point, bro. Good point. I can’t lie. I’m very unccultured on the Penda pick, so that’s my my mistake. He he’s just he’s a he’s a basketball player. Just know that he’s a basketball play. He’s a playmaking wing. That’s that’s that’s the way that’s the way I describe him. He’s one of the best defenders in this class. Uh this me at 19. Yeah. Uh I know I’m thinking with 20. I love this fit at 20. So you better not go with my guy at 20. Probably not. Uh with the 19th pick in the 2025 NBA draft to Brooklyn Nets select Thomas. Yeah, we’re good. Oh, good pick. Uh, I don’t know what the Nick Claxton I don’t know like if that’s up in the air or not. Regardless if he’s on a roster or not, you still use another big. He’s he’s like I don’t want to say a throwback big, but like he’s pretty stationary. Could defend defense play. Not really a lob th is good as a roller. Injury might scare you a little bit, but I think he’s a solid product. I think he’s probably the best player on the board right now. Sorber is an elite defensive rim protector, elite defensive big. I think he had like an 8% block percentage if I’m not mistaken. Um and uh their defense is much better with him on the floor protecting the rim. Um like Q alluded to, he’s kind of like an old school big. Um likes to post up. Um he actually wasn’t that great as a roller this year, but I think it has had to do with uh the guard play rout. Uh I think I I think against like compet like high competition he struggled to finish like layups near the rim. It’s either that in in the half court. Um but I kind of want to say he reminds me a little bit of Jared Allen. Um a little bit um a little bit. He has really good feel. Um really nice passer. I think he’ll be able to shoot like from the mid-range. The numbers weren’t good at all. So, that’s like a little bit of a hunch. Um, but yeah. Uh, more like uh Jermaine O’Neal. I don’t know what you think. His offense his offense is is a drawback. It’s it’s a drawback. Like I don’t know if the offense is going to be good enough, but he’s g I would would take him higher to like the Bulls. I think he’s gonna be an elite defensive mid. Like he’s really good at protecting the rim. Sheldon, what do you think? I I I have some concerns about Sorber myself because um you know Latique brought up the block percentage that is like his biggest selling point and then he measures into the combine with a 76 wingspan and everyone’s losing their mind um for him and I get it but um I don’t know he is also had the same standing reach as Derek Queen. So Derek Queen’s got all of these size problems. Sorber’s the exact same height as him without shoes on. He has the exact same standing reach, actually a shorter standing reach by a quarter of an inch than Derek Queen. Um, and yet Sorber is going to be projected as this elite drop coverage big man because he block shots for Georgetown. Um, but Derek Queen, everyone’s penciling in as only a four and a tweener big because of size concerns and whatever. Like, yeah, he doesn’t jump as high as Sorber, but I think he moves his feet a lot better. And the one thing Sorber didn’t do at all this past year for Georgetown was ever defend out on the perimeter. He played a very lazy drop coverage. And I think if you’re going into the NBA, let’s say Brooklyn takes him here. Okay, let’s look at a match up against New York. It’s going to be a Carl Anthony Towns ball screen for Jaylen Brunson. Brunson’s going to step into a wide openen mid-range pullup or you’re going to hit Cat on the Pop. I I don’t really see Sorber being a super effective drop coverage big despite a Gotti block rate. Um, but I do understand the upside long term because if you do put the right infrastructure around him and funnel guys to the rim, that’s where his value is. and and erasing the rim from team offense is great, but I have concerns about him against some of the best ball handler pick and roll combos in the league. So, it’s where I stand. Where do you got him on your board? Uh, he was not in my top 30 on my last board. Um, so, uh, you know, I I think part of the questions for me too is like, you know, he’s already coming off of a foot injury, um, or a leg injury that he had to deal with as a big man. you have track records of bigs having concerns with that. Um like I do love a lot of the traits and like I feel like if it was four or five years ago I would have been all in on this kind of prospect, but I think with offensive concerns like there’s one thing I really love for his his face up game out of the the mid post. Like I think there’s some real value in his triple threat game and rip and go. But I I don’t know. I I just think this is like a long-term projection pick where it’s going to take multiple years and and you know this might be a scheme thing too where he gets into the NBA and you know he put on a lot of weight going into the combine. He actually measured in as the heaviest player at the combine. Um but I I do think all things considered like if he is able to play active mobile defense out on the perimeter and and completely adjust his defensive tape like there’s value but I I’m just pretty cautious at this point of time with it. So yeah, I’m not expecting him to I expect him to be impact will drop big. Um that’s pretty much it. Um solid rebounder, solid defender. Um I don’t know. I think in the right situation I think in Minnesota, like if he played in Minnesota, I would love I love spots for like Minnesota. I love that spot for him. I agree. Um the Bulls are I think the Bulls are fine. Um what other spots did I like for him? Just teams that need like backup bigs or whatever. He he needs to be somewhere with good screen nav I around him because otherwise they’re just going to bleed points in pick and roll pick and pop game. Um especially the first two years of his career I’m sure. So is that you had 20 with the heat? It’s me. No that’s at number 20 Miami is going with Yakel Lendenberg out of is it UAB? Right. UAB. We’re not counted as Michigan. I hope he stays in this draft. Um, I think this is a very Miami Heat pick. They are in desperate need of a player to play alongside Bam. And I think that the offensive and defensive abilities of Yaxle, I think Miami could definitely mold him into a great complimentary big alongside Bam. I hate to say that I like Yaxel and I think that he will become a very, very good role player in the league. I hope that he doesn’t go back to Michigan. um even though he’s getting paid whatever 3 mil from them, he is a very very interesting will he stay or will he go depending on what kind of promise or draft promises he gets because I think next year he could be one of the best players in college basketball and could maybe rise the stock a little more or drop who knows but I think that he has a high risk high reward on both sides. Um I think if he goes back to college basketball he’ll ball. I think he goes to a team again like Miami I think who can develop very well especially on that wingish position. Um, being 69, I think he could slide from the three to the four, but I think playing alongside Bam helps out defensively and he could stretch the floor. I think they need a point guard. Um, yeah, I’d go big. Would you go on Igor or No, no, no. Troy, that’s it. Like, and I I’ll go with you. I like Yak’s upside a lot. So, I like Yak as a prospect. Uh, really good athlete. uh knocked down three pretty well this year, can defend. He kind of reminds me of Aaron Gordon a little bit lazily as a comp. Um I would have went no Trey here. Not even the biggest fan of him, but they need a point guard. Uh he can pressure the rim. He can play make for others. Um he’s really They’re getting job. They’re getting job, bro. It’s fine. They’re getting jobs. I’m sure they are, man. Listen to listen to Twitter. They’re getting job. Um I would win a guard. Maybe even Ben. I’m not that high on maybe even Walter. Well, I’m not that high on Walter Clayton Jr. I think even LeBron Fine will work really well with Miami. Um he kind of fits their heat culture or whatever. Um but yeah, I would want to guard maybe probably Fon Boogie Boogie Fland right here. No, he shouldn’t. He should go back. He’s going back. He drew. Yeah, he would. Right. Right. Yeah, thankfully because he he shot like 30% at the rim. So, all right. Sheldon’s up with Utah with the 21st pick in the 2025 NBA draft. The Utah Jazz select Adoo Theoro from Arkansas. We’re just talking about his counterpart teammate Boogie Flan from last year. And I think uh Aduro has star upside. Uh and that’s not something I typically say for athletic wings. Um in fact, a lot of the time I end up fading a majority of athletic wings. Uh, I think Adu Theoro has very similar traits to Ojan Anobi uh, as a player and I think I I think I think Theoro is going to be one of the best value picks in this entire draft. I think he’s going to be underdrafted. There will be players like Jaor Demen. There’ll be these theoretical idea players drafted before Adu Theo who’s actually just flat out good at basketball. One of the most functionally athletic players in this draft. You know, arguably you could argue that maybe Cooper Flag is one of the few guys who are actually more functionally athletic than him in this class. I think there’s so much value as a cutter, a self creator, as a driver, slasher archetype. Obviously, there’s concerns around the three-point shooting. If you guys have watched any of my content in the past, you’ll know that I prefer spacing. The more guys you have that can actually shoot the ball, the better. Ador is one of the guys that bends those rules for me. I think he’s so damn athletic and very, very good with the basketball in his hands and off of it on the baseline. There’s value. And defensively, he can guard one through four. I do prefer him off the ball as nail gap help, low man help than I do on the ball, but I still think there’s value there as well if a team does use him that way. So, um I for some for some for some like background, I am I was I was Kentucky fan for most of my college basketball watching. Don’t say that. You’re a Coach Cow fan. That’s a Kentucky fan. You just say that by saying you’re a Kentucky fan. Okay, cool. I love coach Cal because he breeds NBA players, NBA guards. He wants the best for his kids as far as getting into the NBA. So, I’m a really big coach Cal fan. That’s really my only legion in college basketball. So, I watch a lot of Arkansas. Um, I was really high on Boogie Flynn to come up in the middle of this in the beginning of this draft cycle. The rim finishing was too bad for me to stay on him. He had he had to drop out out of my mock or whatever. Adult though was definitely their best player. Um, his profile statistically is insane. Insane. still in block. He got He has a 69.2 free throw rate. Like I was finishing my board today. Um I was definitely trying to get higher on him. I I got I stuck him around like 16. Um I probably go higher because his box plus minus is really good. Steel rate, uh free throw rate really good, which is indicative of star upside. He does remind me of a OG Anobi. Um if the jump shot can can um uh really grow, he can create his his own in the half court. My issues is uh not that great of a passer. Um and in the half court he was only at like he was like at 58% uh at the rim. Um so he’s obviously much better in transition, but he’s a ridiculous athlete. Like a ridiculous he’s probably the best athlete in the class. I mean I’m not you could say that. Um, I’m probably end up higher on him to be honest. Um, maybe move him closer to like 10 or whatever where I can fit him in. But his profile was nuts. Uh, this this is the type of player, by the way, that um, if Oklahoma City does draft him just at 15, the rest of the league is going to be like, “Oh, shoot. We screwed up.” Like, this is the type of guy that the athletic tools around other event creators is going to be terrifying for teams. like the the neat Clifford pick earlier was I I thought screamed OKC as well. So that was I think a good pick and a good mock projection everything too. But dude, Ado like Utah needs to build a team defense. This is a great starting point for them, but if he goes somewhere that already has pieces in place like he’s going to be one of the most impactful defensive rookies we’ve seen in a long time, honestly. So yeah, if the shot comes around, um his his indicators are not good to me. Uh free throw train is not good. I agree. Didn’t shoot a lot of threes. That’s another reason why I didn’t put him higher. That’s why I’m have him at like 16. But his profile is ridiculous. And you don’t even see you don’t see it until you go back and look because I watched him in real time and didn’t realize how productive he was as far as like those benchmarks with box minus and uh free throw rate um and the offensive rebounding skill percentage, block percentage. He he checks all those boxes. So uh yeah, ridiculous prospect. definitely gonna get undersod and can definitely return like top 10 value in this class probably one of these days. Um who I don’t know who is there at uh who is it? Jaden. So you go you go back to back. Just go back to back. I don’t know where Jaden’s at. All right. Hawks. We got them uh a point guard and I think they their next need is either a athletic wing or a center. So let’s look at center. I don’t like Danny Wolf. Danny W. I don’t like I don’t like Danny Wolf as a prospect. Um, though Alex Condan not at 22. Let me look at the wings. They’re still here. I would literally just like Cedric Coward, but he’s not on he’s not on here. I’m saying you could just draft someone else. Yeah. Like just draft someone random and say it’s Cedric Coward. Uh, no. Yeah, with the 22nd overall pick, the uh Hawks will draft Miles Bird. Uh this is definitely a reach. Um it’s a reach. Um let’s call him Cedric Cow if you want to. Um whatever. But Miles Bird, I like him because he’s a really good defender, really good defensive prospect, can get in pass lanes. Um is a terror guarding the ball. His issues is uh he only has one year of like great three-point production. It’s not even great. Like it it was good at one point. it tailed off. Um, so I don’t know if he can shoot that well. Um, he his finishing at the rim was abysmal, especially for his size. He needs to put on weight as well, but he also can like run secondary actions in the pick and roll. He’s really he’s a he’s a solid passer. I’ll say a good passer. Um, but he’s a really good defender. Um, really athletic, too. So, they need more athleticism as a wing, more defense. Um, he can shoot, I think. So, that’s what I’m doing at 22. I think he’s like 25 27 on my big board or whatever. I know. Oh, okay. Oh, my Oh, yeah. No, you’re right. It’s back to you. Yeah. Yeah. I wish right here the Pacers. Who? Dro. Oh, yeah. That would have been cool. Get because they get out in transition a lot. So, that would have been that would have been Dro would be nuts in Indiana. Yeah. I heard Damn. I thought he was going to fall. It wasn’t my pick anyway, but I still rather I like to see him in Indiana. I think they need a replacement for uh not Oh, Cedric Coward’s right here. Oh, I’m gonna redo that. I didn’t see that. Cedric Coward quickly. Um drill pass shoot. That’s it. They need that. So, Cedric Coward at 22. Um 23. They need a they need a backup for because I think is is a strong chance Mal Turnis walks this off seasonason. Well, can they pay him? I don’t know. I mean, either either way they’re going to need a backup big because Isaiah Jackson I don’t think I don’t think he goes either though. Oh, their big their whole big their front like front court depjured this year. I don’t hate Danny Wolf. I was about to I’m gonna pick him. I don’t I don’t like him, but I’m gonna pick him. Um, with the 23rd overall pick, the Pacers select Danny Wolf. A problem with him is, uh, I don’t think he’s going to be a defender really well on the NBA level. Um, um, he also is more of a theoretical shooter than than actual reality. The free throw percentage is not great. He was bad from the free throw line, which is the weirdest part. Everyone called him a good shooter, but he couldn’t make free throws. Um, he turned the ball over way too much for me for a big And I understand he’s handling the ball. I think that’s like I do dis I don’t like Danny Wolf, but I think that’s a bad point because he was literally even sometimes more than Trey Donaldson their primary creator. Like he was their their point guard for a lot of their like he would run the pick and roll with Vlad and you don’t see any other center doing that. He’s in a lot more positions to where he’s going to turn the ball over. But I agree with you. That’s that’s fair. But for me, defense is a super a super important part for sure for a center. Um he’s super skilled. not 27 finishers that can run pick and rolls, inverted pick and rolls. Um, I guess he can shoot. Um, the the indicators are not that great. Um, but yeah, no, I I agree. I It’s tough to It’s That’s my fault. It’s tough to pick It’s tough to pick a center that is not good defensively that also does not possess like he can stretch the floor that well. Like it’s tough to kind of value that that high. If he can If he stretches the floor well, I wouldn’t be surprised. I mean, it’s not it’s not his his shooting indicators are not terrible, but with the Pacers and I I think one thing about stretching the floor that is pretty underrated um stretching the floor isn’t just about um shooting. Like I I think the fact that Wol’s ability to catch and make plays off the bounce, like if a team does close out onto him, there’s stretch value there even if he shoots 33% from three or if a team doesn’t close out onto him, he can flow into a dribble handoff. And that’s something Malawatch can’t do as quickly or effectively or or nonstretch bigs, right? But they should bonus back. Yeah. Yeah. He said got us a bonus back. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, right? He can run dribble handoffs and I think I mean Indiana is probably good Indiana is probably a good outcome for any prospect just that their free flowing offense way. They move the ball in transition. Um you’re playing with Tyrese Hollberg, he’s going to get you good looks. Um Andrew Demar is going to get you good looks. they move the ball quickly. His passing would be valuable in this offense obviously um as something like even Miles Turner isn’t like that great at where he can have the advantage um of doing that. So I’m not that high on a prospect. Well, mostly because I see people see people have him like 15 12. I’m not getting that high. If he’s a late first round pick, that’s that’s cool. Especially the Pacers. That’s that’s fine. Uh Max, you want to switch and you take the uh for this round? You take uh You want Orlando? You want Orlando? Yeah, that’s fine. I don’t want Atlanta, but I’d rather I’ll give you the Thunder since it’s a pick away. Um, it’s tough. It’s tough. Again, this is one that I think honestly we could trade. Um, I don’t hate trading this pick at all. Um, I’ve seen this guy mock to us a couple times. I kind of like I got two names. I kind of want to go Liam McNeely, but like I’m also scared of what Lee McNeely is because if you go with Nick Clifford who kind of provides both, McNeely was super super super super streaky, but at times could show that he was and again it’s in college. He was the number one guy and he was shooting the basketball well and he was doing whatever. I like Will Riley though a little bit too and I got to see a lot of Will Riley. He’s such a raw prospect though. He’s super lengthy. I think he possesses the ability to defend to like he’s just so lengthy. I think he could be like this freak wing for us, but I don’t know. I kind of like the size. Let me speak bigger. I’ve been super harsh on Liam McNeely. I’m not gonna lie because his profile is not that great. Uh he he but he’s he’s built Will Riley and he can shoot the basketball. And again, that’s all we’re going to need at this kind of pick. his his defense Liam’s defense is gonna be really bad. I think I don’t have so many switchable defenders. I don’t care about that. I don’t have Liam in my top 30 right now, but when I when I really think about it, like he was miscasted at Yukon for sure. He was the primary. Yeah, there’s no way he should have been doing that. Um I think he shot 33% from three this year. I think he’s better than that. The volume I think it was 31. The volume is super high, which I’m encouraging. I think the 50 percentage was good. Super encouraging. Um he’s not terrible like putting the ball on the floor um at all. Um he can’t rebound, so I’m probably being too harsh with his evaluation. Um but I think you guys need value in shooting and he can provide that. He’s a he’s going to be a really good shooter in the NBA issue. And again, I like Will Riley super super raw. I think that Liam McNeely being built bigger kind of is against everything else we have. But I also think like if he could literally just be setting up screens for Liam, if he could be active, if he could be cutting, like moving about the ball like not Klay Thompson, but Klay Thompson, right? Like moving around screens and literally just being that guy to where it’s like spot up threes the entire time. If that’s the only part of his game that’s going to be super super super efficient for us and effective. So I kind of talked myself into it, but with the 24th overall pick, OKC will go with Liam McNeely. Yeah, I’m being too hard in this valuation because you gotta he was miscasted and that guard play. What do you guys think? Sheldon Q. I like McNeely here for OKC. Um I thought in game seven against Denver uh specifically when Denver obviously they won the game and blew them out at the end. And OKC doesn’t really need a lot. Let’s be completely honest. But um if you go back to the first quarter when they were struggling to start the game and and Denver was mucking up their offense in the half court a bit with a zone where they weren’t really closing out very hard on the shooters especially above the break like someone like McNeely who around Cooper Flag and Derek Queen and Asa Newell at Mont Verde a year ago was killing teams in zones killing teams who weren’t closing out hard by stretching the floor standing above the break and shooting NBA range threes for Mont Barrett Academy. And I think if you’re putting him into an offense where you already have all of your creation around him and he is looked at as a fifth option on the court, his value is spacing the floor and shooting and that’s what he’ll do. And I think you nailed that, Max, with your evaluation on that. So I think you’re asking so little of him right now. Like you don’t need him to be a playmaker. You don’t need him to be a defender. Like we have so many switchable guys that it’s like you literally need him to hit two or three threes and he can go get a break and that’s it. Uh Q, you back at uh this Orlando. Need a point guard. Somebody can pressure defense, playmates. Oh, yeah. I’mma go uh Fon here. Uh you need me to say 25th pick or No, you’re good. We not to can play defense. Uh I’m not super super super high on him as a scorer, but at least he could defend in the back court. Fish Orlando. I I wish he would have I want him to really actually fall at Boston. Uh but I think Orlando doesn’t really you would think they would draft for like what they would need, which would be, you know, at least shooting in the perimeter, but they’re just not going to do that. Probably going to try and go out and get that in a trade. But I think this is a good prospect at this this juncture. Uh does everything else well other than like get to the line I guess. Shoot. Um Leberon I mean I might have took I might have took Noan trailer here because he can you know he can get to the paint better than I think than um than Phylon. Phylon is just a really smart player. He’s he has a lot of ancillary skills that are really good. Uh he defends um at the point of attack. He’s not the greatest defender, but he defends. I think his steal percentage is pretty good. Um he gets to the rim. Um he’s really he’s he’s good at making decisions in the pick and roll as well. Um the shooting definitely needs to come along. Not going to be a high volume score, but thankfully they don’t need that. Um I do wish the shooting was better though. Like if they can get a actual guard that can shoot like Jace, something like that, that’ll be better for them. But good pick, I think. [Music] 26. I don’t pick 26. I’m gonna mock someone here who is not going to go in the first round. I would bet money that he doesn’t go in the first round, but he should. He’ll return first round value, maybe even top 20 value in this draft. Um, so with the 26th pick in the 2025 NBA draft, the Brooklyn Nets select Kobe Brea out of Kentucky. And a former Dayton Flyer. This is um you know earlier Latif said that uh Trey Johnson Kip were the two best shooters in the draft. I disagree. Um and I love both of those prospects by the way and it’s not to discredit Latif at all. Those guys I think have greater skills around their shooting. Kobe Bray is flat out the best shooter in this draft. A year ago for Dayton playing off of Don Holmes and Handoffs, former first round pick last year for Denver before unfortunately hurting his Achilles. Uh Brea shot 48 uh% from threes uh from three last year on incredible volume and then he transferred to Kentucky, held a very high volume role as an offball movement shooter coming off of handoffs, coming off of pins, flares, whatever you wanted to do, Kobe Bray can do it and he can do it better than anyone in this draft. He is remarkable. He is a guy who he’ll get drafted in the 40s in real life. He’ll get drafted way later than he should and people are going to be like, “Oh, why did this guy get drafted so late?” He can shoot the piss out of the basketball. Everyone knows that shooting is valuable in the NBA. This guy has really respectable positional size at the combine. Measured in with a negative wingspan. To me, I really don’t care. You look at some of the best shooters in the league. A lot of them have either identical wingspans or somewhat negative wingspans. Even Kobe Brea, you’re you know what you’re getting. Movement shooter, spot-up guy. He’s going to make open shots and he’s going to make some contested ones as well. It’s a great pick here in my opinion for whoever gets him on draft night. So, can he hold up defensively in in NBA? Uh, I think so. I think um for a comp uh Sam Houseer, uh I think if you go back to last year’s NBA finals, Dallas kept trying to bring Houseer up to the level of the screen, go at him. Like obviously the more good defenders you have around him, the better, right? Like you want to protect him. I I don’t think he’s going to be like a stopper, a real true plus defender. But in terms of holding up, I mean, if he makes over 40% of his threes, he just has to be not a revolving door on defense. and I don’t think he’ll be that. I think for Kentucky this year, I thought it was a really good prove it year for him defensively going from the A10 to a much more competitive conference um after transferring out of Dayton. And I think he held up enough to really solidify himself as a valuable pickup in this year’s draft um as a obvious shooter. Again, very point blank simple skill set, but one that I think uh is super valuable in the league. So, um, yeah, I’m so I think Jaden would have been here at 27. I’m gonna take, uh, with the 27th overall pick, the Nets are going to s select, um, Nolan Trey. Uh, you take a swing here, you need upside. Um, don’t got a point guard. Uh, currently he can get to the paint. Um, he’s been playing much better uh, this year. I think he has like a 40% assist percentage over there. um in u where he’s playing France. Um so he was going to be a top five pick before this year uh started and he played really bad. Um definitely needs to improve uh driving with his I mean finishing with his left hand. I don’t think his handle was super dynamic. I just think he’s really quick so he uses to get to the uh paint. Um not a great defender, not a great shooter. the profile honestly in totality is not the not the best which is why he’s at 27 for us but they need some uh they can take a swing here on upside and I think it’s fine he can if he can improve he can get to the paint for others um and hopefully his shooting comes along I thought about Washington Jr. um honestly uh there. But yeah, you want to take him for the Celtics Q. What? Clayton? No. Yeah, not Clayton. I’m talking about Troy or um if he fails like it was either going to be the Celtics or I like them in Phoenix. Okay. Is it your pick? I think so. Yeah, it’s cute. No, you uh Yeah, Jaden’s not back though. So, do you want Q? You could take this one or Yeah, I just Wait, it’s from Jaden. Jaden, when Jaden left, you just started going back to backs. That’s what we’re saying. Yeah, you had two. You You was going back to back. So, you technically was picking for the for the Celtics originally. But if you I say just have just have Q go and then have Sheldon do our last pick. I’ll go Phoenix and then Shel go. Go ahead. All right. For for the Celtics, uh you you took Nolan, right? Yep. Uh, I probably I’m gonna go Cam Jones. Uh, scorer. He scor. Yeah. Not a great not a great three-point shooter. And also, uh, to the line is a little hit or miss, but everything else I’m pretty fine with low leverage situation, especially going into next year. He doesn’t doesn’t have a lot of pressure. Pretty much going to go out there, get buckets. Um, at 29, just keep it rolling. I just think value-wise, I I think Phoenix, what Phoenix should do is blow it up. And I think that by blowing up, you take guy highest value. So with 29, they’re going to go with Igor Denim. I know people hate him all the time, but obviously he’s falling down almost out of the first round, but um, I think if they get Bradley Beal out of there, if you get KD out of there, even if Booker gets traded, hopefully you could take the upside of Iguor and he pans into something. I I do think with Deon here, um just for for those watching, uh this guy’s going to get drafted in the lottery on draft night. So, June 25th, brace yourself. Uh he’s going to be picked higher than he should be. Uh he’s going to get labeled as a jumbo point guard just like guys like Emanuel Moodier, Dante Exom, Evan Turner to an extent. Like, there’s so many draft examples, Killian Hayes, of these big guards getting drafted because they’re looked at as positionless playmakers. That’s just a code word for saying he’s a wing. Like this guy proved that he cannot be a true point guard. Like he’s Yes, he’s 6’9. There’s great height there. He’s a wing. And um it shows up in his free throw rate. It shows up in his self-creation. Watch the film on him. Try and see him get all the way to the rim through any contact. If you find that clip, send it to me over on Twitter, please, because like it’s not like there’s just not a lot of value here for me um in terms of who he is as a prospect. And um that’s why he falls here. I think, you know, the rest of the caster agrees with that. Like, he fell to 29 in this. I don’t think any of us were super stoked to pick him at any point. Um, but some teams going to take him high because he’s shooting well in one-on-one workouts. So, if you had to guess what team in the ladder you think would take the take the flyer on uh at worst at worst Atlanta 13. Yeah. I’m not De actually I think I just put him in like he’s at 29 my big board him out. Um but um legitimately his his his statistical profile is terrible. Uh and again now I learned a lesson. I had demon at four or something like that earlier like after the first five games. Again I was doing my my big boards. Well I didn’t do official big board but just like in my tweets learned that lesson very quickly. Um him playing against competition. He like he looked like Lanton playing against compet competition. As soon as he got into Big 12 play, even before Big 12 play, he was awful. Um, to be honest, right before he started hitting conference play, that that’s when I was like, okay, I see. Yeah, he cannot his handle is very weak. He cannot deal with pressure at all. Um, he can get he has the ability to get to the rim because he did do that a bit. It was every time it was over the screen. He played in one of the best offensive ecosystems in college basketball. BYU was a very good offensive system. uh ran by Kevin Young and a pro style offense uh with shooters and a good roleman and um Richie Sanders lowkey I mean if he wanted to come out I don’t know Richie Son was a really good basketball player this year um Bach plus minus was just terrible free throw rate terrible three-point percentage terrible he did shoot a lot of threes so the form looks good I will say um he did shoot a lot three. So, the volume is there. Um, but his free throw percentage, it’s not even good. It’s not it’s not great. So, it’s like it’s it’s really weird. Uh, and he’s also not a good defender. Um, so Joerger is going to get drafted much higher than I think he should. There’s like this like authorian complex, elitist complex where I saw someone tweet today, Jerger Demon is going to get drafted in the top 14. Yeah. If Jacob Demon is gonna get drafted in the top 14, if he if you don’t have a mock there, you don’t know what you’re doing. So, there’s just like NBA scouts, NBA fans love him like they didn’t love um Cody Williams or uh Sier Saloon or uh like Emanuel Moodier, all the other bus that they are in and like there’s there’s gonna be bus so consensus doesn’t matter to me. Um but yeah, whose pick is it at 30? Uh Sheldon’s ending it. Okay. Cool. Who’s the last pick? I don’t even know. Uh, the Clippers. So, with the 30th pick in the 2025 NBA draft, the Los Angeles Clippers select Ben Saraf out of Ratzio Farm. Noah S’s teammate over there in Germany. S obviously went much earlier in this mock. And Saraf um I do think will fall a bit because of questions about um the reliability of his three-point shot. And I do think when you’re drafting for specifically point guard play or ball handler play, it is the most flooded position in the entire league. Uh there’s a lot of talented ball handlers who do not get play time. Uh there’s a lot of talented ball handlers who fall in drafts because it’s hard to project their fit. Whereas you look at a guy like Rashir Fleming, for example, who went earlier who has less dribble pass shoot skills than Saraf has a much easier way of getting onto the court because he’s bigger, longer, more athletic, can defend multiple positions. there’s more value there for NBA teams, which is why uh Sarah falling to 30 is a real possibility. Um but for the Clippers, the one thing that they can offer that a lot of other teams in this range can’t is minutes. And uh the Clippers need another guard, another ball handler decision maker um behind James Harden. Uh we know Kawhi Leonard’s slated to miss probably 20 plus games at least next year again. Uh, and I think a a skilled ball handler scorer who can put the ball in the deck, make plays for others like he’s done all year long for Asen, uh, I think fits really well here with Zubots, with Batum and the other pieces that they have there in LA. So, uh, Saraf is a talented passer, I think. Uh, and he is also, but he again, like you mentioned, has shooting concerns. I think he has, uh, athleticism concerns as well. Uh, but I think I can see Sarav as like a backup point guard returning some really good value in this class. Um, he’s productive and a good a good um pro league. So um yeah, that that holds it own value. Uh Sheldon, thank you. Thank you for coming on. Uh this is our full first round mock draft. It was it was a long uh recording especially because we just did a video before this. So yeah, and I know Max and Q really tired. I got food on the way. Um thank you for for coming on. um and showing us some support. Um interested to see if we can continue to collab uh going forward and as this uh draft season comes to a close. But uh that’s going to do it for our postcombine mock draft. Thank God for watching.

Sheldon Wohlman of @UtilitySports joins the podcast to partake in full first round mock draft after the NBA Draft combine. The panel gives their picks for each pick in the first round.

00:00 Intro
02:03 Dallas Mavericks
03:49 San Antonio Spurs
08:00 Philadelphia 76ers
14:00 Charlotte Hornets
19:05 Utah Jazz
25:40 Washington Wizards
32:39 New Orleans Pelicans
40:00 Brooklyn Nets
47:48 Toronto Raptors
52:29 Houston Rockets
57:03 Portland TrailBlazers
59:04 Chicago Bulls
01:04:35 Atlanta Hawks
01:09:48 San Antonio Spurs
01:11:45 Oklahoma City Thunder
01:14:03 Orlando Magic
01:17:33 Minnesota Timberwolves
01:21:18 Washington Wizards
01:23:39 Brooklyn Nets
01:28:55 Miami Heat
01:31:20 Utah Jazz
01:36:33 Atlanta Hawks
01:38:36 Indiana Pacers
01:41:50 Oklahoma City Thunder
01:45:40 Orlando Magic
01:47:50 Brooklyn Nets
01:52:08 Boston Celtics
01:52:44 Phoenix Suns
01:57:12 Clippers

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4 Comments

  1. That you guy actually thinks Maluach is top 4 is wild.

    Unless that boy is the second coming of Hakeem "the Dream" Olajuwon, then he's not even top 10 in anyway shape or form.

  2. "Tre Johnson was more efficient than Ace Bailey"

    Tre Johnson: 42.7 FG%, 51.1 eFG%, 55.7 TS%

    Ace Bailey: 46.0 FG%, 51.4 eFG%, 53.6 TS%

    ????

    Jazz should absolutely go Derik Queen or Ace Bailey in that scenario. Prefer Queen. But understand Bailey.

    Bailey is just significantly more talented than Tre. Bigger, much better defender, and at worst similar efficiency (on an even harder shot diet)

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