Should the Memphis Grizzlies exchange quantity for quality in NBA Free Agency and trade market?

Should the Memphis Grizzlies exchange quantity for quality in NBA Free Agency and trade market?

the Thursday edition of Locked On Grizzlies. And wouldn’t you know it, depth might be overrated. Who could have predicted that? Looking at these NBA’s Final Four, plus ways to make Zack Edy and Jaylen Wells even better than they already are. And a little bit of summer league dreaming here late in the month of May. It’s locked on Grizzlies. Let’s lock in. You are Locked On Grizzlies, your daily Memphis Grizzlies podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. Your team every day. Thanks for being here with me on this Thursday edition of Locked On Grizzlies. It is I, Joe Mullenax, your host, flying solo once more, but for the final time, you know, on a Friday, we got to get down on a Friday. Tomorrow’s episode, Deich and I will be back together talking Memphis Grizzlies basketball. But for now, it is I, Joe Molenax, once more picking up where Deco left off yesterday, and I’m excited to be with you for the next little while talking about Grizzlies basketball here on Lockdown Grizzlies. Today’s episode of Lockdown Grizzlies is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers can get $200 in bonus bets when your first $5 bet wins. We are free and available wherever you get podcasts as proud members of the Lockdown Podcast Network. Your team each and every single day. Like, comment, rate, review, subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, YouTube, Google, literally anywhere you get a podcast, you can get Locked on Grizzlies. Make sure that you’re hanging out with me and Demich each and every time that an episode drops. Michael did a great job yesterday talking about Zack E, the Jaylen Wells getting first team all rookie NBA designations and those are well-deserved awards for the exact reasons that the Michael laid out yesterday. Folks overthinking the Zachi selection. Not going to name any names, but people hating on that pick for not very good reasons, at least as far as I can see. And when it comes to Jaylen Wells being perhaps the best draft pick of the 2024 NBA draft, a young prospect coming up from division 2 Soma State to Washington State, getting all the way to the NBA and looking very much a part of a playoff team. I think it’s fair to still call the Memphis Grizzlies a playoff team, a playoff team’s rotation moving forward. But notice the key word that I used in that phrase, rotation. And I do think that there’s an argument to be made as we start this Thursday edition of the show for improving the veteran depth of the Memphis Grizzlies in such a way that it would allow it would allow, excuse me, players such as Jaylen Wells, such as Zack Edy the chance to potentially be reserves. And how in the world could the Memphis Grizzlies get there? You might be asking. That seems like a pipe dream to me, Joe. You’re making stuff up. Not so fast. My dear friends, my dear everydayers, hopefully that are with us each and every time a show comes out here on Lockdown Grizzlies. It is possible given the way that the Memphis Grizzlies have set things up with Capace this summer that they could get a little bit froggy, a little bit flexible with what they do. And I want to shout out old friend Matt Hardica back to my Grizzly Bear Blues days over a decade ago. We used to write and work together over at SP Nation. He now has a Substack that you most certainly should or a Patreon, excuse me, has a Patreon that you most certainly should subscribe to. The Grizzlies heading into next year, and this is from Matt’s Substack. 7.3 million in cap space, including an 11 million hold for Santi Alama. There are ways for Memphis to operate as a team that could free up even more cap space than that. The Grizzlies could sign and trade Aldama. Again, reading from Matt’s piece, Santi Alama at about a$16.67 million salary and that could get them to 24.17 million in cap space. And that gets you into, as Matt alludes to in his piece, Cam Johnson, Kevin Herder, Trey Murphy, potentially if there was front-loaded offers with Santi and they added in multiple picks, maybe New Orleans isn’t interested in moving on from Trey Murphy would certainly be writing some wrongs from the Zire Williams trade. But that’s important to point out is understanding that if you work the cap a certain way, they can get to cap space that they may not have had before. And you can bring in players that you would not have had access to before if you had held on to, say, Marcus Smart at the trade deadline. The Grizzlies could also interact with other teams like the Detroit Pistons, as Matt alluded to, getting that 25 million dollars in cap space, finding ways to bring in like a Nas Reed, a Quentyn Grimes, and restricted free agency. There’s lots of ways that Memphis could use the contracts of Santi Alama, could use John Kchar’s deal with other squads like the Pistons, freeing up cap space to bring in veteran players. Imagine Nas Reed starting next to Jiren Jackson Jr. How awesome would that be? Sign me up. It’s possible given what Memphis has done with their roster already. Imagine if the Grizzlies had a way to on top of Nas Reed just make it Timberwol South, bring in Nquille Alexander Walker with the mid-level exception and you still have Desmond Bane, Jiren Jackson Jr. and John Morant on the roster. Replace Wells and Edy with Alexander Walker and Nasreed. Or you could simply replace one of them perhaps Edy and you stick with Jaylen Wells as your bigger, you know, wing player and Alexander Walker serves as your bench guy, your sixth man. Think of the things that you can do if you add veteran depth in those ways to allow for Jaylen and Zack to not be asked to do so much. The fact that the Memphis Grizzlies as a playoff team had two rookies that were first team all rookie starting for them. The fact that the Grizzlies were the number two seed for a long stretch of this season. That is remarkable when you think about it is the exception, not the rule. Imagine how much better they could be and in particular how much better the Memphis Grizzlies could be if Wells and Edy were able to play reduced roles. Not saying that they shouldn’t be starters, not saying that they shouldn’t get big minutes. If you were able to execute the type of transactions that brought in two veteran starting caliber players, Wells could easily still play 24 to 26 minutes a game. Zach Edit could easily still play 24 to 26 minutes a game. How valuable is depth in the modern NBA? We’ll talk more about that later in the show. But I can’t help but wonder, as good as Jaylen Wells has been and as good as Zach Edi has been, they’ve been asked to do so much and I’ve talked about it numerous times here on Lockdown Grizzlies. Perhaps I’m scarred by the memory of the 2017 2018 Memphis Grizzlies when a rookie Dylan Brooks as a second round pick was asked to do way too much and how that has impacted or at least impacted his Memphis career. Dylan saw himself as something that he wasn’t. Now, I don’t think that Jaylen Wells and Zack Eid are of a similar mind frame to Dylan. I don’t know that there’s going to be boom box dancing and trash talking to King James and Anthony Davis anytime soon from those guys. But at the same time, the fact remains that if you have talented young players and you put them in better positions to be successful where they’re not asked to do more than they should be asked to do, how much value does that hold for a team like the Memphis Grizzlies? To me, the answer is a lot of value. putting them in positions where they don’t have to defend the best player on the floor every timeout. Positions where they can’t be taken advantage of because they are going against a elite pick and roll big in guard tandem. Imagine Zack Edi playing against reserves majority of the time or Z or Jaylen Wells defending second and third options. Imagine those guys helping lead a bench, a championship bench. That’s a vision that I have for those two. So, we talk a lot about how the Grizzlies are going to be able to keep all three of these dudes, John Morant, Desmond Bane, Jiren Jackson Jr. They have costcontrolled rookies and Wells and Edy and others that could add to the depth of the team. They have the potential now because of the Marcus smart trade as poorly as it ended in Memphis. You took a step back this year, no doubt, but you have the capacity to add players within the realm of a Reed, an Alexander Walker, other types of wings if you don’t want to go full Minnesota South. And you can do that while maintaining your core and improving not just your starting lineup. The statistics bear out that Wells and Edy were really good in terms of being starters. It’s not about needing to fix the starting lineup. It’s about improving your depth for quality depth when it comes playoff time because do you really need to run an 11man rotation? Probably not. That’s exactly what we’re going to talk about next here on Lockdown Grizzlies. The significance of depth. how the NBA playoffs are perhaps showing that to be a bit overexaggerated. Stick around for that conversation here on Lockdown Grizzlies. Today’s episode of Lockdown Grizzlies is brought to you by FanDuel. The NBA playoffs are in full swing. 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Make every moment more with FanDuel, official sports betting partner of the National Basketball Association. So to Michael Cole, my wonderful co-host, who again we will be back together for the first time in too long on our Friday show. We got to get down on a Friday. You every day know that to be true. Deich wrote a great piece for the Commercial Appeal talking about how depth doesn’t seem to be as valued as perhaps it has been in the past. And I think that there’s a lot of truth to that if you look at these conference finals teams. The New York Knicks are the most glaring example, right? The Knicks have gone allin, especially with their starting five. Jaylen Brunson, OG Anobi, Muel Bridges, Josh Hart, Carl Anthony Towns. They got some other reserve players, some bench guys that contribute, but it’s certainly not the 10 or 11 deep that the Memphis Grizzlies were at times this season. The same thing is true of the Indiana Pacers. They go maybe nine deep. They have reserves that are capable of playing at a high level, but they don’t have so much depth that there’s numerous guys that aren’t logging minutes that are good basketball players. The Oklahoma City Thunder might be the biggest exception to this, right? One of the reasons they are the team that they are is they can go 10, perhaps even 11 deep with legitimate NBA highlevel contributions. That’s the exception, not the rule. I don’t think anybody’s advocating for the Memphis Grizzlies to go full OKC and completely blast this thing out into the sky with a rebuild. Then you have the Minnesota Timberwolves, who we’ve talked a lot about on this episode. You like Naz Reed, like NAW, but think about the Timberwolves for a moment. Would the Timberwolves be better if they didn’t play Mike Connley at all? That’s an interesting question. But they didn’t get much out of Connley in game one. And because of that issue, could it make more sense to let Dante Dancheno be that guy and condense their rotation even more? All this is to say that beyond the likes of the Thunder who are not just primed for success now, but well down the road with all their draft capital that they’ve accumulated. Beyond the Thunder, the exception to the rule, how valuable is depth really? And that comes back to the point that I was making earlier on in the podcast. If you have Nasreed and Aale Alexander Walker and Jaylen Wells and Zach Edy, how much more do you need beyond that in terms of a true rotation that is going to help you win 16 games in the playoffs? Because once you get to the playoffs, not the playin, the playoffs, once you get to the playoffs, that’s the goal, trying to win 16 games. Are you going to be able to do that with John Morance as your best player? That’s a question that we’ve contemplated a couple of different times here on the show over the last couple of weeks. But if you’re going to operate under the assumption that you can because you have Desmond Bane and you have Jiren Jackson Jr. and you believe in those two key cogs as supporters around Jaw, that’s all well and good. I’m not saying that’s wrong to believe. But what I do think is important to understand and align with that line of thinking is that John Morant needs support and that Jiren and Dez, none of those guys are capable at this point of being the higher level superstar contributor on a night innight basis for a variety of reasons. Right? If Jaws stayed healthy and was on the floor more availently, I think you can make the argument he can be that guy. But we haven’t seen that consistently enough. And then it comes down to ability wherewithal for Bane and Jackson Jr. both. You need those veteran pieces that provide that depth. But how much do you need beyond that? Jaw Dez Jiren Reed Alexander Walker. Again, this is just a hypothetical. Scotty Pippen Jr. Jaylen Wells Zakiti combo forward. Somebody that can play the three four and I think you’re set. And there’s your nine. So how do you get to that ninth guy? you make moves, you get tricky in transactions, maybe you nail another second round pick, whatever the case might be, there’s lanes for you to operate in where you can get to that ninth piece. And I do think that that could be enough. Now, the guys that are 10 through 15, perhaps they’re not quite as good as they have been in the past. And I do think that there’s going to be somebody listening to this podcast or watching it on YouTube and you’re going to hit me up in the comments hopefully or shout me out on x at Joe Mullenex and you’re going to say, “Joe, have you not been watching Grizzlies basketball? These guys are injured all the time. Of course, they need the depth.” Maybe so. You’re not incorrect about the plethora of injuries they’ve seemed to endure the last couple of years. But it’s difficult to plan for that, right? Especially if your aspirations or championship are bust. What would happen if Carl Anthony Towns got hurt for the New York Knicks right now? What would happen if Jaylen Brunson got injured? Do we really think the Knicks are in the Eastern Conference Finals? Probably not. Look at what happened to the Boston Celtics. They lost Jason Tatum and it essentially doomed their season. Jason Tatum is their best player. What would have happened if they didn’t have all that money invested in Drew Holiday and Chris Dos Porzingis and they spread it out a little bit more? They spread out the love and the wealth. Maybe they weren’t an eight or nine deep rotation. They were able to go 10 or 11. Does that really make a difference in terms of Boston beating New York in the semi-finals of the Eastern Conference playoffs? I would argue it doesn’t. If you lose these guys, you’re in trouble regardless. So, if you operate under the assumption that you may not have John Morant for 25 or 30 games out of the year, you can’t have that plan B mentality to start out your journey. You’re slow. You’re lowering your ceiling considerably. And the Grizzlies should be shooting for the stars because they’re running out of time. They’re running out of time as this window gets a little bit closer, more closed, more closed, more closed by the day, by the week, by the month. We’ve talked a lot about this new view with the new CBA of the two major paid stars. The Grizzlies are going to have three. Is that tenable in the league’s smallest market? Is that something that can stick around? I think that’s a fair question to ask. So, the windows getting smaller with this era of Grizzlies basketball. Are you really going to enter into that conversation saying, “Well, you got to chalk up Jaw for missing this many and Dez for missing this many.” If that’s the way you’re thinking of it, maybe you should move on from this era entirely. But I want to stress that’s not my mindset where I’m at in terms of reading to Michael’s piece saying depth is overrated. I want to go and get those veteran cogs. I want the younger players like Wells and Edy to be in a reserve role or a lesser minutes role even if they stay as starters. And I want them to be strategically used in a means that allows for them to maximize what they do well and minimize what they struggle with. Well, Joe, that’s what everybody’s trying to do. Sure. But if we’re trying to make chicken salad out of chicken kn you you know what the purpose of the Marcus smart trade while in hindsight and in fairness to some they saw it at the time that was essentially punting on the 2024 2025 Memphis Grizzlies. You are in a place and a a realm of possibility now where you can maneuver around the cap and you can bring in players that while you may lose a John Kchar who’s a great break glass in case of emergency end of rotation guy, you might even lose a GI Jackson or a Vince Williams Jr. to try to sweeten the pot on some of these deals. But are you trying to win now or not? What did you see from GI Jackson that makes you think that you’re going to win now with GG in the fold? Nothing should be your answer because that would be the correct answer. Nothing that suggests that GI Jackson is the kind of player that can do what a winning Grizzlies team needs for him to do in the here and now. And if that is the reality, if that is the circumstance, why hold on to that guy looking down the road? GI only has two or three years left on his contract. He’s eventually going to cost money if he gets better the way that you think he’s going to get better. the the dual windows, the dual timelines that we’ve talked about in the past. This idea of being a contender and being set up for the future at the same time. I’m I’m done with that. I like the idea of depth being overrated. I want to give up not on these players because I do think Gi Jackson is going to be a good player, but is he going to be good enough in the John Morant, Desmond Bane, Jiren Jackson Jr. title window? If the answer is no, which I think it is, use him to bring in guys that are helping you to get there. Now, that should be the priority because that is where the money has been invested. Let me know on YouTube. Hit me up in the comments. Hit me up on X at Joe Molanax. How are you feeling about the depth being overrated conversation? Do you agree with me that going a little more allin makes sense for this crew? We come back here on Lockdown Grizzlies. We will close out this episode of the show Dreaming of Summer, summer league in particular. Stick around here on Lockdown Grizzlies. Welcome back to Lockdown Grizzlies on this Thursday edition of the podcast. It is I, Joe Molen. So glad to be here with you. Thank you for joining us each and every time that an episode drops. Hopefully you’re an everydayer at this point. If you’re not, by all means, hit the subscribe, like, comment button, be a part of our community here, our little corner of the internet that we like to call Lockdown Grizzlies. I miss Grizzlies basketball. As crazy as that is to say, as poorly as the season ended, right? I’ve gotten the bad taste out of my mouth. I want to watch Grizzlies basketball once more. And it’s got me thinking about summer league. And I’m excited about the summer league, the Salt Lake City stuff that the Grizzlies do. Obviously, they have the connection with Las Vegas like everybody in the league has come July. And I really am intrigued by what the summer league team is going to be, assuming these guys are still here, right? Uh now Jaylen Wells, Zack Edy, depending on how active they are in the summer league process, they of course uh figure to be a part of the Grizzlies 2025 2026 campaign, but a guy like a JD Jackson, how is he going to take to the opportunity, developing his game, getting healthy, working on things that he needs to improve upon, namely defense, right? The last time we were together and I was with you here on Lockdown Grizzlies, the pigeon thing bothered me. GI, you were one of the biggest pigeons in the entire NBA last year. Are you going to take your six foot n frame and be a better defender? That’s what I want to see. Cam Spencer, I know Deichel talked about him on yesterday’s show. The dog, right? Dog Cam Spencer. Can he show facilitation skill? Can he be that guy who slides in and be and become the cheaper Luke Canard replacement that we’ve talked about before? Can he be that guy converting him out of a two-way contract? Whoever Memphis selects in the NBA draft, whoever they sign as an undrafted rookie, whether it’s for summer league purposes, whether it’s for G-League purposes, reloading the Memphis Hustle, numerous members of the Grizzlies roster over the years developed in the G-League through the South Haven system. So, how they implement that, it it just has my mind wandering. What are these guys going to be asked to do? How is it going to look under Tumas Eelo? How will the coaching staff evolve? It’s going to be our first real chance to see some of those things tangibly in action. What does a tumas iso system look like? It’s not going to be 100% complete, of course, but you’re going to get the first taste of it if we’re not going to give him credit because of the way that everything collapsed around the firing of Taylor Jenkins. Obviously, time will have passed. There is no interim tag on Iselo any longer. How is he going to use Zack Edi depending assuming he plays a game or two in summer league? How is he going to use Jaylen Wells? is going to be as a facilitator in terms of developing that skill. Is Zach Edy going to shoot more threes? Or are there going to be different angles in terms of the screens that are set? Maybe it’s more offball screens, maybe it’s more flare screens, pin downs. How is this all going to integrate and mold and evolve under new leadership that is no longer tied to Taylor Jenkins? Jenkins is the boogeyman that hopefully we’re going to be able to move past here, right? We got to accept this Tumas Eelope era, even if it’s not the way that we wanted it to begin. A little bit more of an extensive search for a new coach is something I was hopeful for. I’m guessing a lot of you were as well. But if you’re cool with it like me, then you want to see it fully implemented. And the first step towards that is summer league, right? Certainly not full implementation, but it’s the start of the conversation. It’s the beginning of the journey. I want to see how the Grizzlies roster gets reshaped around Eselo. If quick guards are a priority, bigs that can screen, how do they alter the offense? How does it get tweaked in terms of defense? How do you put a player like Zack Edy in a spot to have his limitations masked as much as you can? That starts to shine through in summer league play. And I am excited to see that. And I’m also just excited to watch Grizzlies basketball to be honest with you. To see these guys get back out there, start their journey. It’s a chance for Memphis to see what they need, what they don’t need. It feels fresh again when you have a coaching change and you understand that you’re going to give the keys to the kingdom to somebody new. How is that process going to work out? That’s what I’m most excited about with this summer league potential. And again, GG Jackson to me, assuming he is back in Memphis, which he’s under contract, right? It would have to be a trade or something like that. They would move on from him. I wanted to see Gigi because as hard as I’ve been on Gigi, I point it out every time on these podcasts, I wanted Gigi to be the sixman. I believe in his skill set. I think he can be a really strong NBA player, but he has to recommit on the defensive end. He has to be a passer of the basketball offensively. He can’t be a black hole just taking on possessions. He has to grow. Injuries are terrible and he had a serious one. It limited him significantly. A chance at rebirth essentially is what I really want to see from GI Jackson. And again, we talked about Cam Spencer. Depending on how much Jaylen Wells and Zack Edy play, there’s still a real strong youth movement in Memphis that the Grizzlies are going to have to depend on, assuming that they stick around, barring some sort of significant trade. How that fits in this new era with Tuas Iselo, that matters a lot. Who’s going to be the head coach? who is going to go out to Vegas and be part of the process, right? Obviously a John Morant, a Desmond Banner, Jiren Jackson Jr., those guys aren’t going to play, but they might go watch, they might participate in practices. What is the vibe around the team, the energy around this new era? How invested are people going to be? And how much time will it take for the ECLO effect to go into place? We didn’t see it very much post Taylor Jenkins and a lot of the reason was there was only two practices and they were just trying to land the burning plane. Those are my words. Okay. Well, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt there. I want to start seeing what this change is actually going to be. How is he not going to be Taylor Jenkins? If this was the grand plan all along going back to last summer, so be it. How is that plan going to be implemented? That journey starts with Summerly. Thank you so much for being with me on this episode of Lockdown Grizzlies. Again, I appreciate you guys hanging out with us all week. Whether it was me hosting solo to Michael hosting solo, it’s that time of year where things are a little bit hectic and crazy, at least in my day job. It’s wonderful to have his flexibility and all that’s going on with him. we’re able to get these shows out and talk with you guys and keep the everyday flow as much as we can. But the the ability to go solo, right, and you guys being with us, it’s appreciated. We’ll be back together on Friday, getting down on a Friday, the dynamic duo will ride once more, talking Grizzlies basketball, checking in with the playoffs, NBA at large, and so much more. Make sure that you’re with us. Make sure you’re liking, commenting, rating, reviewing, subscribing. Wherever you get podcasts, Apple Spotify, Amazon, YouTube, any of those spots would be wonderful places to make yourself at home with Locked On Grizzlies. 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It is a fair question to ask. Often times the depth of the Memphis Grizzlies has been tested the last few years, but come the NBA Playoffs depth matters far less than it does in the regular season. Are the Grizzlies better off putting forward veteran players, allowing young ones to see reduced but “better” roles for their stage of their careers? Host Joe Mullinax tackles that and more on this episode of Locked on Grizzlies!

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