Brooklyn Nets DREAM draft, Cedric Coward + Fan Take Friday
Coming up, Fan Take Friday brings the dream run for the locked on Nets hosts inside the draft for Brooklyn. Plus, reminding everybody the trickiness of picking at eighth overall, even in a deep draft class, plus all of your players that you want Brooklyn to bring home. Coming up next, [Music] you are Locked on Nets, your daily Brooklyn Nets podcast, part of the Locked on Podcast Network. Your team every day. Ah, yes, my friends. It is the Locked on Nets podcast right here on the Locked On Network. It’s your team, the Brooklyn Nets, every single day. He’s Doug Nory. I’m Adam Marick. We thank you as always for making us your first listen of the day. We’re 100% free on all those great platforms. And for just the second to last time on our tenure, Fan Tank Friday coming in hot with a whole bunch to talk about from you, the fans, and the players that you like. But we start things off dog. Just Doug. Doug and dog. Hey, dog. I’m your dog. It’s all right. It’s all good. You’re my dog. You’re my dog. You’re my boy, Doug. You’re my boy. I mean, is it like we’ve done isn’t like we spent 10,000 hours going back and forth in the show saying each other’s names, but that’s all good. It’s all You’re It’s fine to make mistakes this late in the run. No big and you’re Dale, right? Uh look at the top of the draft here when we talk about before we get into all these picks and we’re gonna we’re gonna give our four maybe a couple more that we like at 8 19 26 and 27. But the trickiness of as you and I were running through some mocks and looking at players that eighth overall pick is actually in certain moments a bit of a bummer for Brooklyn even beyond missing out on the top guys because of where you are and how some of these prospects are stacking up. It’s really funny. It’d almost be easier. Okay, it’d be easier if the Nets drafted like third. I won’t even go to one two, right? Like I’ll say it’s easier if they drafted third or like 12 and had like and could replace the eighth pick with 12 and 13 or something like that, right? Like and like just get two picks for that, right? And I know people are going to say, “Well, that doesn’t make sense.” But it’s like it speaks to the fluidity and the overall talent base in this draft. It’s almost like you’d rather have it’s almost like you’d rather have two picks 10 to 13 than the eighth pick where you might have to make a tough decision on like who the guy is. And now maybe that’s sort of a beta way to think because you’re like, “Oh, I just want someone else to make the decision for me and I’ll take the next best guy.” But then I think you’re going to find that the Nets are maybe in a tricky spot here where I’m telling you right now what’s going to happen. Now the Nets might hit on eight. I’ll that’s I I that’s that’s totally could happen. Yeah. I’m positive that someone like 10 through 15 is going to hit in a major way and then there’s going to be a lot of FOMO like years later about these guys that didn’t hit. Like I feel very very confident with that. And you’ll see when we go through the like some of the fan takes we got tons of thank you. So many responses about this top four Nets fans are jazzed about this draft and rightfully so. So like that’s a good place I think for the fan base to be is that like the word like there’s a lot of active thinking about this draft as there should be. But what you’ll see the theme is it’s either like taking a guy and crossing our fingers or or I hope that this one guy that’s mocked a little higher false like because it’s like a little hard to key in on who exactly you want, but they definitely fit those two themes. It’s like total reach and we hope it works out or can Trey Johnson get to eight or something like that. And it’s like maybe but probably not or or Jeremiah Fears or so or or someone like that. So I think and by the way I think that happens at 19 also like I think that happen I think that same exact thing happens at 19 where there’s this other class of players and you’re like well that guy could go at 15 now or or we’re going to reach a little higher. So it’s a very funny thing I think what we’re seeing happen. And you mentioned that name and Trey Johnson. We’ll talk about again at the back end of this draft when we’re thinking about where we want the Nets to go with the four picks. But he actually became, you know, we talked about him a lot and there’s a lot of things to like about his game and then you’re also we’re talking about upside swings and at a certain point I said boy Trey Johnson getting to eight might be kind of important for the way you want this draft to play out for the Brooklyn Nets depending on who you look at on upside swings and all that stuff. We’ll talk about that more in the back end. But before we get to fan takes on all the players and you said fans are in on this one because when you have four draft picks by the way it’s easy to want to dive in on every single guy. There are two players that we want to make mention of and you’re already starting to see a bit more buzz around both of them. The first of which we had made mention of um yesterday on the episode you had brought him up first and we both kind of immediately was like, “Oh, yep. Saw his name.” Cedric Coward out of Washington State coming off of a shoulder injury. He’d be on the older side from a Brooklyn perspective. Uh almost 22 years old at the time of the draft class, but he’s rising. He may only be 31 on on Tankathon’s board right now, but you’re already seeing talks about him up near 20 to 22 range. What do you like about his game? Because he because now, by the way, this happens when you’re looking at every single guy. I’m like, or maybe he’s the guy that I that I really like in this draft class. Ringer has him mocked at 14. Like, so now they also have Danny Wolf like, you know, number one overall or whatever. So, like, by the way, there’s some some guys because if you like him, you go, there you go. Look where they’ve got him ranked. And there’s a couple other ones you go, well, no, hold on a second here. You know, where is your board exactly? But I appreciate that they’ve been taking kind of swings and like claiming their players when you make their when you look at their board. Yeah, Coward at 22, right around he’ll be right around 22 of the draft. It’s like I don’t know, man. There’s so much to like. Like body is fully NBA ready right now. 40% from three at decent volume in his senior year. Like 56% from the field. Could rebound the hell out of the ball. Like just looks all the way like an NBA player right now. He should not be mocked in the 30s. Like no chance. There’s no way he’ll go this late. There’s just no way. Like I like he’ll he’s just already he’s just already too good. And he’s one of those ones where like could the Nets get I mean I’ve seen like this is crazy. They’re like does he have like Kawhi Leonard in him? You’re like oh maybe right I don’t know. Like he can play defense at the NBA level now from outside the first round to now being like Kawhi Leonard deserving of lottery or top status potentially. But is his floor like DFS or something like that which is also really good, right? like it’s like is is is he like is that the is that the absolute floor for him like coming into the NBA right now where he’s going to be able to shoot threes, play defense, be able to get physical with other players and then so I think he could probably just do that right out of the box and then if there’s this other level where he ticks up one more level where he’s beaten guys off the dribble and can get his own shots just a little bit as one of these defenders because now you’re talking about the dream because the real dream about these wings these wings wing guys is that like there’s a lot of guys that can come in and play the convention 3 and D wing, but the NBA is almost evolving past that at this point where Cam Johnson thing. It’s like like it was one thing to have great 3 and D wings, but the NBA the league’s just getting too good. Like you can’t be just only kind of those guys. You need to be able to like be like DFS where it’s like three and D wing, but you can also guard fives if we needed you to, right? Or something like that and wings, but also you can take a guy off the dribble consistently on the offensive end when you’re open, right? Or do that and then you’re like like Tatum or something like that. Like I don’t think he can be that necessarily, but it’s like what we’ve looked at a lot of these guys where it’s been hard to kind of envision that next thing happening. So you’re like, “Okay, can he spot up, shoot threes, and play enough defense and that makes a nice NBA career for you?” Or are you a guy that can just do this one other thing, which is score a little bit? You know, you get the ball at the end of a shot clock and you can make your own shot just enough. And if you can do that, well, you are this like different caliber and class of player that can kind of play with everybody. He should not be mocked in the 30s. I would be ecstatic if he was there at 19 for the Nets to take like and if he was like available late he won’t be available late 20s. I’m almost positive. Like I I just think that there’s just no way like the body is already if you can kind of envision a guy stepping onto the court in an NBA floor now. Like you just no matter what your age is, you can’t go in the 20s. I don’t think like and so we’ll get to the dream draft later, but I just wanted to make mention of like he fits to me more than who do we talk? Oh, Nick Clifford. Like so Neil Clifford was like old and it’s like I don’t know because I could probably see what the ceiling is but he could NBA ready now and I think he could help a lot of teams blah blah blah. I don’t think that’s a Shawn Marks guy. Cedric Coward though where you’re like hey this guy could be you know not even male because he’s like a little different but like you know what I mean like these guys are just not three and D wings. So like one step above maybe not superstar but on ball wing on ball wing creator I’ll call like he’s got that in his bag for sure. I’m like please get to 19. I don’t I don’t think it’s gonna happen, but you can’t, but you also can’t take him at eight because it’s too high. So, well, I know. And this is, by the way, I’ve done this with we’ll talk about the other player that I want to make mention of as we get to fan takes because some some people put him on their list there, too. Another guy that seems to be rising here and then all of a sudden you look at him, you go, “Oh, why why wasn’t I thinking about him sooner?” But this is always I always relate to NFL because NFL when it comes like quarterbacks, it’s always like, “Oh god, franchise QB. Love this dude. Love him.” Where are you picking six? Okay, we move up to two. God, no. I I wouldn’t even think about taking him to two. It’s like the the weirdest thing. But then you talk about a guy like well you said Cedric Car as the example. You go okay if you love him and you love him to fall to 19 and you can’t maybe get up to 14 where you say it’s a perfect spot to take him. Why not take him at eight? How could you possibly I don’t know because if you think he can be that guy then again relative to who else is there and you know what other players project to. But at some point you just have to look especially in deep draft class. We talked about this all offseason long here. If it’s deep class and you build your board and you just have this guy higher, who who you justifying it to? And again, it will be someone gets taken at 15 and you took Cedric Coward at eight and you go, “Oh my god, I can’t believe you passed on Molly Watch or you passed on player XYZ there.” But I will say after say Trey Johnson in that top from that seven back to like 14 range, you start having a lot of conversations where really as you look at some of these other players that are rising, it’s just like I like this guy and I I really don’t care about these other guys that may have been sitting there and what their upside is like I just like this player. So he becomes really fascinating. Love what I’ve seen from him. And consistency, by the way, close to or at 40% for his entire three-year college career. Coming up here in a second, we’ll make mention of another player. Some of the fans out there have put them on their board as well at the back end of the first round. But a laundry list of players to discuss from you, the fans. We’ll do that all here coming up in just one moment. 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I love that you have all these guys on Indiana who have like maybe you’re a casual NBA fan and Nem Hard and obviously in Hallebertton and Miles Turner who’s like come back on in the last couple years of his career relative to where you thought about them five, six years ago. I mean, first of all, phenomenal game. will take a what a combined 270 plus point game in overtime which is awesome. Not so awesome if you’re a Knicks fan and they blew, you know, 17 point lead in the last six minutes of the game. But they, you know, in general speaking, what a fun game. By the way, Nets fans, Nets, last I don’t get to hear your guy. Nets fans, let’s just act like we’re the I’ve said this on Twitter. The opposite of love isn’t hate. It’s indifference. You can’t It looks It’s such a bad look to do this like back running on back running on Nick stuff. Just like I don’t know, watch the basketball. It’s just like feeds the fire. There’s nothing to stand on. So like just just watch the basketball and don’t treat it like whoever is against the Knicks is your second favorite team. Like I just I I just feel like it’s such a weird thing. Like I that’s just me. I know I’m going to get some hate for that. Get into your guy. No, I know it’s absolutely absurd. But as we talk some of the fan takes here as well and mention it because I as I said some people threw this name out there looking through the back end of the first round because I was trying to find like a 26 and 27. What are we thinking about? So we’ll talk about them again when we give our final our final four or six players. But Maxim Renaol, another Frenchman, seven foot one. Whoops. That’s got some size for you. And even though he’s lanky, has a little bit of that athleticism in terms of getting out in transition and working on the offensive end. Defensively, we can get into that where he would fit in and, you know, be able to be a rim protector or not. Some slow footwork, but pick and pop big kind of the thing the Brooklyn Nets could just use. That’s exactly the mold that this guy is built in. Knock down, what was it? I want to make sure I get the number right here because I’m going to blow past it. knocking down 34 almost 35% from beyond the arc. 35% this past season hitting over on five and a half attempts per game and that was a big increase in volume relative to how he was in the three years prior. Didn’t take any more than two attempts per game going back on that. This just feels like Lanky upside guy. He’s been mocked everywhere from like 30 to 45ish, but he’s been rising. Some boards have had him move up eight to 10 spots here in the last two weeks. I’d say at 26 again maybe the same kind of thing we talk about with Coward. I don’t know if he’s necessarily there not as much buzz but 26 or 27 if I’m This feels like a very easy Shawn Marks kind of swing and solving a problem that they have not been able to clip here. Pick and pop stretch the floor has a nice shooting touch from beyond the arc. Lot to like about the baseline of this player coming in. Yeah, like again pushing the age thing a little bit. the athleticism is what drives it down. And it’s like, well, if you have a sevenfooter that can’t defend every center in the game, then you’re like getting in a little bit of a trouble zone on the defensive end because you might not have the rim protection cuz like you can’t always just give say a sevenfooter rim protection because I actually don’t think that’s the case with him here. But we’d be calling balls and strikes with this. We’ve dug, sorry, we’ve taken digs at the bigs that can’t do this at all along the way and then this guy can do it. So it’s like, okay, well, which one do you want? for sure has a Shawn Marks kind of profile written all over him for terms of like the kind of stuff that I think he sees wants different players to be able to do. Again, I think it’s an example of if this was last year, he’d be considerably higher um in the draft than he is now. But the age, the age drives a lot of these guys down. Like these, it’s like if you couldn’t translate it right away when you were 19 and 18 and you weren’t a for sure top pick then and now you get to 22 and then teams get worried and you’re just longer into your life cycle and the age matters. So I like it. I don’t like it at 19. I don’t think you’re suggesting that so don’t worry. But like um but he fits if we’re talking about the things we didn’t like about some of these other bigs, he doesn’t have that problem. Like he can for sure shoot for sure. It’s like but he probably not gonna be able to defend anybody but maybe that’s good enough if you just have a pick and pop, you know, three-point kind of stretch big. And that’s man, it’s all over the place with this draft. This draft this draft’s wild. And how about this too? Because by the way, because we get I know we got to get some fan players, but I I will say too, so I saw the name. I started looking I go, “Oh, okay. Here we go. 38.” No, no, no. I take him 26 27. I like where we’re at here. And then I start looking around. There’s one other board. It might have been Yahoo that had him a little bit higher. I really, we mentioned him before. He’s on the network. It’s not because he’s on the network. Raphael Barl like I I love the way he breaks down guys and the way he builds his boards. Totally. He has him 12 on his big so like I mean like you said the a if you if if to take away the age factor which you can’t because that matters to the development but if this kid was 19 and a half and you looked at the skill set I think we would be talking about him in the top 20 based on that alone and where you can project him. So we’ll get back to him real quick. real quick. You the other awesome thing you can do with this draft and then we’ll definitely get to the fan stuff is you can mix you can take all of your opinions and then just go around the industry and just find they might wildly disagree with one opinion of yours, but you can find someone that’s going to agree with the highest version of your opinion and it’s like and just mix and match all the stuff. It’s like okay well Barlo had Maxine at 14 or whatever you just said. It’s like okay well Ringer had Ringer had coward at 14. Okay, so that’s my guy there. I’m with them on this one now. Forget the other guys. forgot the other guys in this group. The rest of the draft, not the rest of the board. I just go around and I find the examples of the people that agree with me about the one thing that I want them to agree with it and then I move on. So like, but this draft is for sure like that because and you’re going to see when we talk about the fan stuff right now is that as we break down people’s top four, I’m not going to be able to get through we’re not going to be able to get through everyone that rang in on this. I’ll try to I’ll do some and I’ll give some themes. Um, but you’re going to see it’s like it’s just all it’s kind of all over the place in the in the coolest possible way. Uh, we’re going to go ahead and start with these fan takes here. one off of YouTube. We have a ton of these, by the way, but I’m just going to do it. Why? He said, “Please shout me out on fan tank Friday.” And then he gave that little emoji with the, you know, out of the nostrils there. So, uh, Benny’s World 2013, Khan Canipple at 8, Noah Aseni at 19. Don’t know if he’ll necessarily be there, but could. Igor Demon at 26. Don’t know if he’s going to be there, but could. And then Thomas Sorber at 27. This is probably an Now, it’s interesting because if you think about the way some guys are rising, some somebody has to be falling here, but I’d say Benny is going with like optimistic in terms of where guys are still available on the board. You’d like this, but you also need everybody to be there at 19, 26, and 27 especially. Yeah. So, this was a theme theme that I saw a lot too, a lot of Twitter responses on this is like somewhat realistic around the eighth pick and then but look, we’re asking for dream drafts and then in the dream draft, you’re asking for guys to drop. So like I would be all the way on board with this. This is actually very close to like what I said. Um actually well has two guys at the there and then um is so kind of wishing and hoping that some of these guys drop and then kind of going a little chalkier at the top and so let me I’ll give a couple more like this can not there’s no way I can get to all these uh and so apologies. So um we’ll go fan sector 2018 uh had fears uh CNB dropping to 19. I don’t think that’s going to be um I don’t think that’s going to be all that realistic for CNB, but maybe because like look look sometimes these guys got to drop and then Coward with the next one and he kind of just didn’t say anyone else after that. Another theme I saw like from NWT here Nets World Tour was a Si at uh Eat Riley then your boy Phylon and then Lendborg uh with the next one which I’m like okay that’s like decently realistic I think. But one thing I want to ask you like I saw one theme from a lot of the fans here was a sen at eight like was one. Okay. I would say like the three guys were fears for sure like everyone wants fears at eight. Like that was one. I would say fears was my most popular answer. Probably fears then Mali watch then probably the top those are like the top three guys going at eight like Eric Manny had and maybe Caniple too of that group. Yeah. Join one there. Aces had Molly watch, you know, familiar freaking flyers of the show. Yeah. So, it’s like I don’t know like is that probably what we’re just looking at? It’s like a fears Molly watch canle whoever drops like is that is that maybe probably what the Nets are staring down like that’s I think and like let me ask you a question here and we’ll take a break. I guess you can answer after the break is that like the group that throws a Si into that eighth into that eighth pick like do you think that fits with those other guys or do you think that’s like starting to reach too high at eight? All right, you can you can wait on Well, it yeah got will be answered here coming up in just one moment. All right, as we tie pretty leaves locked on next episode, which quite frankly, as we’re winding down our time, I do have to say that I think the 30 minute show is getting a little bit too tight because there’s a lot going on here, a lot to talk about. I’ll have to we have to circle up with Doug here. Maybe we’ll throw like one just long form network schedule and structure be damned next week and just have a little bit of a hash out on a lot of this draft conversation. To Doug’s point, and this is where it gets interesting because we talked about Asen and we like Asen and he’s the big upside swing. I think this really depends on how the board breaks down at the top. We said there at the beginning like it’s interesting where Trey Johnson falling to falling to eight or having him land there at eight for the Nets could be kind of important because even though when we talked about him I said oh you know you want to take these upside swings but you’re pretty damn confident this kid walks in the door and he’s a scorer and he can produce on the offensive end and you like where his game can translate going forward. So when people put a Senate at eight, I think it probably is dependent on how that board looks there because I can make a case if Trey Johnson if Trey Johnson doesn’t fall there and then that the Fears camp would probably say the same thing. I’m on the outside of that looking in. But if Fears was there or not there, if Trey Johnson is there or not there, I can probably bypass a Molly watch. I can bypass a Kanipple for a Sen there, but I can’t do it if it’s Trey Johnson. And I and I and I understand when people are like, “Ah, I don’t know. Can you really pass up Jeremiah Fears there to go for the big long-term swing when you think about how deep it is.” I personally would do that, right? Like I would go Trey Johnson, then a Senate, then Fears if I was ordering them out, but I understand where people are kind of at here. So, it does depend how one through seven breaks down ahead of Brooklyn and really specifically, you know, five through five through seven, those three picks. Well, one thing about fears too that I’ll say because again I think fears maybe I just read that one more because I was kind of out on this like a and that one just stuck with me more the more I saw it like NBA bubble said fears at 8. Um I’m trying to find a couple. Yeah, you said Jo uh Joe Martin Jose one he’s a big time listener uh said fears at 8. Couple other people too is that he going the other way on this like he’s so young that you know he’s not even 19. He won’t even be at 19 at the think of the time of the draft. might still be growing too. And like I don’t know if he had another inch and a half in him or something like that by the time he’s done growing by the time he hit 20 which I don’t think is out of the realm of possibility because I you look at him he looks like he looks like 14. Like you look at him he looks so young like yeah he really made me feel old when I was watching the interviews from the combine. I was thinking man this guy looks so young. I I couldn’t It actually threw me off a little bit. But if you think to yourself, well, he’s looks so young cuz he is so young and you’re buying like year three of this where like he’s now 65 or something like that, then the whole thing changes and he’s got supreme confidence and he seems like the basketball IQ is all the way there. I was starting to come around a little bit on that one, but I don’t even know I answered your question, but like the like I think in general like the variable, right? the variable of like what happens there and who’s there at 8 changes whether or not you think you go for a sen or not like queen for me I pro I’m probably not talking about taking queen at eight right I’m not having that same kind of conversation like we’re saying if I was picking at 11 I’m taking the big swing I’m taking the big swing at that point and it’s not and it’s not Derk Queen I don’t think like I think it’s only to me it probably does come down to and it’s a good point about fears and his his ability to grow right maybe over the next year it’s probably those two players in my mind right now at the top of the draft if Trey Johnson or if Jeremiah Fears falls to eight then you’re having a real convers conversation. I’m not as concerned about not about saying I’m swinging big with the Sen over Konipple over Yakionis over Molly watch right I just start and now what becomes funny about that is is that then then you do you start to have a different conversation about players we discussed like like uh CMBB right like so once you open yourself up to a certain thing that you’re not interested in doing at the top all of a sudden it’s like well I don’t know maybe it’s coward what the hell do I know like maybe maybe I just go with the guy that I like and I stop worrying about where they’re picking at other guys here. Just to throw out a few more. Um I mentioned aces there. Mamba Forever. He had them taken Yakionis at eight. Don’t I wouldn’t say I love that. Sorber at 19. Now he did end up taking uh Lendorg at 26 and then Cedric Coward at 27. He’s not Coward’s not going to be there, but Lendorg is another guy that when I started looking at him a little bit too at the back end of the first round, he’s a name that a few couple people listed here. I was looking at him and I do like him. We also got a couple shout outs around Fleming. Uh, Trayori got brought back up again at 19 and then even Maxim Renault um got mentioned in a few of these shout outs as well. Dan Ley, oh, let me make sure I get this in. You can hit a few for yourself as well. Molly watch at eight, Demen at 19. I don’t know if that’s possible. He went with uh Fill in at 26. And then Rashe Fleming who has some ranges in terms of outcomes. Kind of depends on where he pushes back. I have liked his game as well. Who else did you have up on your board? Yeah, from from the fans here. Yeah. So, um Yeah, trying to get to these. You know, it’s so funny when I put this out there, I was like, “All the fans will say the same thing and this will be easy to read.” And then I started getting these answers and I was like, “Oh, this be impossible. Never mind.” Like, I don’t know why I thought this was a good idea format-wise. I was like, “By the way, I signed off on it.” So, we’ll throw this out there and lock it up. Fantic Friday. Four picks with like four picks with infinity variables and 33 guys who can you can mock into these into these ranges. Like, pretty realistic 36 guys maybe that you could get into these ranges. It’s like, “Oh, yeah, this will be a super clean format that’ll be really easy to follow.” Uh, so no, I think we I think, like I said, I I think if I was just looking for themes, I think that like fears was for sure a theme where I think Nets fans would be very very excited about that. And I think I’ve come around on this being a fine idea, right? Um, so I think that’s fine. And I do think that like the the differences around everyone after that just speaks to un unsure about like who’s going to fall in into what range. I actually do feel pretty confident that looking at all these things, all these different ways, I’ll get into our top four here to finish it off. But Mhm. looking at all these things this way has made me feel very confident that one of these guys that we like will fall. Now, whether the Nets take them, I’m not sure. Like if I think I know what I think I know, let me put it this way. I say this to my kid all the time when she says something like it’s like I don’t know what the right thing to say is or we say this too. I don’t know what the right thing to say is, but I know what the wrong thing to say is, right? So, it’s like not sure the right answer, but I know the wrong one. I don’t even know. I don’t know all the right players to draft, but I can tell you the wrong players to draft. Exactly. And I actually think I know the players that I would feel wrong to me if they drafted. And I think like that’s sort of the operating standpoint I’m going from. It’s like there’s so many guys I like in these ranges that there’s I’m going to talk myself into kind of a lot. Not even talk myself into them. I’ll just be happy with it. There’s just a few there’s a few that I would not be pumped about. Like for me, Danny Wolf, I know you’re a little different. Um, for me, I would say another one is like a uh Assa Noel. I don’t think I’d be all that excited about. Jason Richardson, I don’t think I’d be excited about. So, like I think these are the players where I’d be like I’m not I’m not loving that. But for a lot of other guys, I think I’d just be okay with wherever they land. You want to give me your four and I’ll give you my four before we get out of here? And um yeah, I I stretched mine a I stretched it a little bit, but I I’ll probably end up giving like six guys and we understand the ranges that they fall into here, right? I So, let’s do it this way. First and foremost, I think we talked this out now. I think you and I both agree if it’s Trey Johnson or it’s Jeremiah fears at eight on the board. We understand it and we and we both be very comfortable, maybe more obviously more comfortable with Trey Johnson, but certainly Jeremiah fears we would get it. At that point, I do tend to look at at a Sen and say, “Give me that big home run swing.” A lot of the reasons is because as you move down the board and talk about some of these other players, I actually feel like, oh, I’ve got some really nice baseline here. Now, people have asked, we’ll do this next week. maybe combining some picks to move up. The idea that Coward can be there at 19, then that’s a lock for me, right? I don’t look back at that. I’ll add into this group. So, basically, we talk 19 and then back down to it. I think Coward is an obvious one for me. Uh I really do like I want to make sure I want uh I do like Rashir Fleming. I think you can have a conversation about that even though he’s close to 21 at the time of the draft. Very polished, ready to come in and make an immediate impact. I like Rena at the back end and I do like Yako Lendenborg the um out of UAB. I think he’s really good too and the only other guy I’ll add on to there I do believe that Finan Learon Fillin is like worth having a conversation about. Go look at all the boards where these guys exist there especially in that 19 to 30 range. They’re spread out all over. So that’s you know at the top you have your pick kind of your choice and then here’s five or six other guys that I’d be very happy with. So I I’ll I’ll drill myself down. a sen at eight. Oh, are we I’m gonna say well this this is what sucks. We’re gonna run a little bit long here because I had to clarify something with you. Can I say coward at 19 or do we both agree he’s not going to be there? I I put him lower and I was hoping he would be there. So this is why I stretched it a little bit. So just go whatever. It doesn’t matter. There’s no there’s no eight is I’m going to go 19 is coward. I’m going to go 26. I will take uh 26. I’m gonna go with uh Fillain and then 27. I’ll I’ll go with uh Lendenborg assuming that maybe Renard ends up there in that second round pick and you can grab him. Okay. Yeah. I mean, mine’s less realistic than yours because I pushed all my favorite guys down. Like, so it’s I’m trying to be a little bit, but yeah, you’re being realistic. Um I went Khan Canipple at 8 and I think I’m okay with that. I think it’s like a pretty safe I think it’s safe and he’s young enough and I think like there is some upside there. Yeah, I know. And I think it’s like no one’s gonna love that, but I think it’s okay. Then I pushed Eigor down um and like he falls to 19 and I thought that’s very realistic. Yeah. No, I told you I I told you I was unrealistic. I I gave you the out. I said I told you with Coward. I was like so I went Eigore at 19. I don’t I told everyone that they responded to this that wasn’t realistic and then I did it myself and then I did coward with that next pick and I think that’s like somewhat realistic because he’s mocked so low in some places and the age is going to throw people off. It’s probably doesn’t push all the way this way. And then I went Penda with the last pick. Um and I think I’m I think I’m okay with that. I think it’s not realistic that that all four of these guys I think Penda’s realistic but like I don’t think the other two I think like Coward at 19 is more realistic than him pushing into the late 20s but like and then I yeah and know because by the way it’s like when you’re doing that it’s like if I if I can’t if if I could get coward at 26 like Rasher Fleming who is up there at 20 near 20 as well it’s like okay like let me jockey these guys around. The nice thing about this is I will say like so that that we gave our list putting Penda back up there on the board on everyone’s mind I think is important as well but we are talking about like there’s a lot there there’s I think we would combine to say from 19 to 30 you and I could have eight nine players they’d be like nice like sweet now whether or not they all fall there that’s to be discussed and next week I think the interesting part would be are we interested as some fans asked are we interested in combining some picks and making sure we get to a place if you only get to take eight whoever you choose there and then you really want coward is that worth 19 and 26 to get to 14 or whatever that number is right those discussions I think do become really fascinating here as well but there are players as you heard here today we talk about lendborg and talk about a guy like Renault like all of a sudden they’ve come out of they’ve come out of relatively nowhere talking about guys oh second round back in the first now you’re hearing them in the first now you’re hearing the mid20s well I I don’t know where it’s going to be by the time we get to the draft draft’s still a month away there’s still a lot of time for these things to refine themselves out. I do find it interesting when most of the buzz comes around like all those fringe whatever kind of players and if that ends up swaying you away from some guys maybe like a Derek Queen that’s basically lived in the 8 to 12 range the entire process. Are we just overlooking him because there hasn’t been, you know, this dramatic movement for him or are we finding some players that really are more deserving and you can structure your team better through the draft? Yeah, fascinating stuff, man. All right. Uh, good locked on Nets um announcement coming next week also, we think. So, that will be uh that’s exciting news. Um, so we’ll keep everyone up to date going into next week on what that is, which is going to be our final week on the show, but a feed that will definitely live on. Um, and I think we have a good announcement about that going forward. So, we’ll do that and we’ll get into more draft stuff. Also, uh make sure you subscribe and like. We’re going to hit 8,000. 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I don’t know about other people, but I’ve kind of fallen out of love with Nick Claxton. Some of it is due to him, but some of it is also how the nets have failed to development correctly.
First given that last year was a throwaway season, I was thoroughly disappointed in the lack of growth that Claxton made. He seemed to regress defensively, but even more importantly, he didn’t get any better offensively in a season that didn’t even matter that’s a concern. The other concern is his back. We just went through this with Ben Simmons and it might be time to try to sell at least moderately high on Claxton to say the Lakers or somebody that needs a veteran big. The other thing is, they are just a lot of much more skilled big man coming out in this draft that you can develop that I think the net should feel comfortable moving on from Claxton.
The second thing is, I’m disappointed on how the nets developed Claxton to begin with. Claxton coming out of college had point guard skills and was taking three pointers yet they never developed that in the same way that they’re doing with Noah Clowney. They tried to make him into Jared Allen who they traded and they were just two different players. So I blame the nets a little bit there on not seeing the vision on what Claxton could have been.
All in all, I think there are some bigger and more offensively, capable big man that will be coming out in this draft that could finally give the nets that modern big who’s not just a small ball big but an actual 7+ footer who can play defense and hit shots
Am I the only one that thinks kon knueppels absolute ceiling is a Cam Johnson? I mean CJ is a good player but I would like it if the nets draft someone who has a higher ceiling
I still have #HopeForHarper
And why not? Mavs got the number one pick AFTER making the Play in tournament AND with having only a 1.8% chance! So let me dream in peace😅😅😅
Please please NO KON KNUEPPEL. KON is slow , not athletic and not a good defender . He is a 1 trick pony . His floor is his ceiling . KON = Cory Kispert 2.0.
KON’S Ceiling is Max Strus / Cory Kispert Those guys are not worthy of the 8th pick