Hour 4: David Locke Talking Utah Jazz & NBA Draft | Slacker Radio Headlines | Feedback of the Day
All right, welcome back in. Joining us now, David Lock. DJ’s off. Tim Lome sitting in. Mr. Lockman, man. Good morning. How the heck are you? Well, I better now because I’m talking to Patrick Kahan. That means it’s complete week. Things don’t get much better than that. And I’m not going to comment on whether I think that Tim Lome is an upgrade from the great David James or not, but it’s awfully nice to talk to Tim Lome also. How are you Timmy? What’s up, my friend? I I was just talking about the detail with which DJ goes into on stories. I’m not quite that detailed. Um but but we’re having a good time. So I actually need to know something. Okay. Cuz I’m I’m going to I’m going to reveal the hidden secret of my interviews. Okay. So the reason I usually come on the show is because DJ Patrick Kennahan can have breakfast throughout the morning because DJ never shuts up and he tells a long story and so PK can just eat during the show. It’s not a problem. But my role is so that DJ can have breakfast. Oh, there you go. I come on the show, talk for so long every single time that then DJ can have breakfast. So, I need to know, Timmy, have you had breakfast yet today? Um, I’ve got my Diet Coke right here, but more importantly, I’m just excited. I haven’t heard your voice on the air for a while. So, you know, this makes this is comfortable. I got headphones on. Diet Coke to my left and you in my ears. Okay. I do do a podcast every day if you really miss me, but that’s okay. No, I’m saying to be able to interact. I can’t You can’t talk back to me there. I’ve been wanting to text you. Have you watched Trey Johnson? I have. And what do you think? I’m kind of in. I am kind of in, too. Me, too. Yeah, I really like him. Um, what’s not to like, right? Yeah. And I don’t actually understand the criticisms. That’s what I really like. What are they? What have you heard? So, the criticisms are obviously doesn’t play defense because he’s 18 years old. Okay, great. I’ve yet to like you know there’s Right. Who has um right why would he right then he’s a ball hog but I don’t see that at all and that he doesn’t get to the rim and frankly I kind of see that a little bit but boy his teammates suck. Yeah. Spacing was not a thing. Right. Right. Yeah. And so I’ve seen him get to the rim when he can there and I’ve seen him finish both right and left and then I I’d be curious your thoughts on this one, Tim, because sometimes I think I an individual play can like overly excite me. So there’s a play Oh, shoot. What game? I’ve watched like five games. Maybe against Yukon. Did they play Yukon? Yeah, cuz I think I was watching Liam McN also. So he grabs a rebound, which he doesn’t do very often. Again though, I don’t think that’s him. I think that’s their system. Um, and he takes two dribbles out and throws an underhand right hand like bowling ball like motion pass to a streaking big man 45 ft up the floor and hits him on the spot. And to me, right, but to me like how many like to me that just tells me one that he thought about it, two that he had enough conf like his his mind was like, “Oh, I’ll just do it this way.” Like I think those plays matter. Am I overplaying that? Because it’s it’s not to me that it’s a highlight. It’s that it’s there’s a uniqueness to to what your skill set has to be that you actually did that. Well, and that’s what we look for and see on a nightly basis in the league are guys doing those types of things. And I I think one of the harder things to do, like you said, is to like watching Isaiah Collier’s film last year, for instance. Um, you know, I had in my mind based on looking at numbers, knowing USC that year being a disappointment, you know, I went in with with this idea that, okay, you can’t shoot, can’t do this, can’t do that. And I watched the film and the stuff stood out to me that you just talked about. You got to this is not all done in a vacuum. Um, and you’re trying to translate with impeccable spacing, with elite athletes around him running the floor. What kind of plays can this guy make? And I think you’ve hit that one on the head. What um the he’s low on steals, rebounds, and some of those, so it just looks like he’s just shooting. But I also thought that they were pretty on the offensive glass, he never crashed. He always went back. And on the defensive glass, I wasn’t sure when where he was supposed to be getting his rebounds. So any do you have buy that as a criticism? Yeah, I mean, but you you could say that about so many guys. Um, you know, again, I think at this stage, you’re looking for somebody that can I mean, I love the fact that he can light it up. He led the SEC in scoring. Um, and his length, you know, he’s 66. 66, but like a 610 wingspan with the afro, right? With the wing. No, I said wingspan. Okay. This isn’t Fletch. Okay. Uh, Bradley Beal, what comp? Yeah. What do you think, Tim? He’s not that big, is he? Who are you saying that’s how he plays? Beal or Johnson isn’t as big. Is Beal as big as Johnson? I don’t think so. I thought so. I thought they measured pretty close to the same. You know who he kind of reminds me of is a Cam Thomas. Well, so that’s the criticism on him, right? Right. I think Cam Cam Thomas is thicker. Yeah, he’s thicker. I’m just saying the ability to score the ball. I mean, there’s lots of parts of Cam of Cam Thomas’s game I like. And again, part part of his deal is he’s he’s damned by his situation, right? Yeah. We’re going to criticize Cam Thomas for being too much of a ball hog on a terrible team and score 25 a game. Like, okay. Like, I just don’t think there’s some guys that can score 25 a game. I think this kid can score 25 a game, right? He’ll score 20 a game, which is really hard to do. He’ll score. You think he’ll score 20 a game when third year in the league? Maybe second. Maybe first if he’s drafted by the Jazz. Well, they got to take him then. Like if he if he plays for us next year and various roster changes happen there are, you know, we’ll score 95 points every game. Promise. The way the work world works. Someone’s got to do them. That’s right. Then they they absolutely have to take him. You like him better than Edgecom or you don’t think Edgecom will be available? I have not watched enough of Edgecomb. Um, so I’m that’s my next project by then. As of right now, I like Trey Johnson more than Edgecomil. But, you know, I also have a tendency to really really like guys that can shoot the basketball. I will say David was on um the first year I did the draft coverage. was the doier. And going into it, Dave and I always talk the week before and we had to reveal our guy. And David was he was pretty hellbent on Desmond Bane, but if there was a second, it was uh our guy that’s killing it for Minnesota, McDaniels. Jade Jade McDaniels. McDaniels. So, those were his two, and I was pretty set on Bane. Um, both of you guys were more right than the guy making a decision, unfortunately. And that’s no knock on this guy making a decision because nobody makes No, it’s hard. It’s hard. It’s hard to do. Right. Right. I mean, when you’re drafting 27, 28, 29, sometimes you just see guy find a guy you think will be able to play 15, 20 minutes a night and you would have thought that would do. Hey, what’s your take on um Canipple because I really like him too. So, I just watched him um I just watched a lot of him. So, I’m actually going to go to he actually ran a decent amount of pick and rolls for Duke. But the player he reminds me a little bit of in the question of whether he could be this player, I don’t know, is Devin Devin Booker out of Kentucky. Not Devin Booker, Phoenix Suns, but Devin Booker out of Kentucky. So, Devin Booker out of Kentucky was a really good player. He ran 14 pick and rolls I think the entire year. So you had to project everything about Devin Booker as though he was going to do something totally different than what he did in college. So in my opinion, if Canipple is going to be really good, he’s going to have to be probably one of your primary ball handlers, be running pick and roll at 66, seeing the floor and doing all that kind of stuff. And he with Cooper Flag and Proctor and everyone else, they they didn’t he didn’t get to do that. He actually ran I think about 70 so it’s not as severe as book Devin Booker’s situation but that’s what I see on Caniples. Okay. Yeah, I got he can shoot it. I’m not sure I bought his his drive game is he comes to two feet, he pump fakes you, moves you around and then puts the ball off the glass usually to score. I’m not convinced that’s still going to work. So, I think I’m a little nervous he could become very perimeter uh focused and I don’t I don’t know that I think he can play a pick and roll game where he’s getting on top of the cup. And then the second question I have on him, the best shooter in the draft, right? I mean, that’s just I push back a little bit on that. He shot 40% from three and Johnson shot 397 and Johnson clearly had to be much more of a defensive focus by the opposition than Canipo was. Yeah. Yeah. That’s I mean I think that’s the thing on Trey Johnson that jumps out to me more than anything else. And I watched I think I’ve watched five Trey Johnson games. One of them was super early. Two Oklahoma Texas games in the Connecticut game and they played Georgia. I watched that but I can’t remember what game that other game. And like in the third game of the year the commentators are like, “Okay, well the defensive focus is on Trey Johnson.” Like he’s 18 years old. The defensive focus is on I agree with you PK. Like I think that’s the separator right there is that this kid was the number one person on the game plan to start the the the whole entire time. Um the um the other one on Canipple is I did in every game I watched of Duke, which is three, I saw him get beat at some point super badly on a dribble move, something of that sort. He generally seemed fine defensively, but they had also had Malawich and Cooper flag behind him, right? And so I’m a little wondering what happens to him on an NBA floor with a little bit more space of whether or not he gets exposed defensively. Um, and like let’s just say it also there’s just every stereotype about a white kid coming out of the draft, you like those are all in your head too, right? Like with TJ Leaf with TJ Leaf and every other, you know, really good white kid that comes in and supposed to top 10 pick and then doesn’t Doug McDermott and then they’re just okay. like uh Jimmer Fet like it’s like the you know the American the American white kid is a hard is a hard question. I had a coach tell me the American white shooter is the most overrated player in the draft every year. Right. Right. I got a name for you. By the way, I don’t I don’t love the 66 or 65 66 wingspan either. Yeah. Right. That coupled with the struggle to move your feet is not a not a good combo. Yeah, I don’t think I could do I think he’ll be a fine play. All right, so actually let’s just say this. This is the biggest problem I have in all draft analyses ever. In fact, I was literally just on the phone this week with locked on NBA board, which is our podcast for locked on on the draft, and I finally just told him like, I can’t handle this anymore. 50% of the players after like the eighth ninth week of the draft don’t make it. Let’s stop talking about everyone’s awesome. They are all awesome, but they’re about to move from a world in which there’s 300 division one teams and like so let’s say there’s five good players on every team. You’re one of 1500 and you’re trying to move into the realm of being one of 200. Like this is the steepest jump they’ll take in their basketball career and it’s brutal and incredibly difficult and guys throw up on themselves all the time doing it. So like as like with I if we’re if we’re talking about these guys honestly and saying like yeah there’s a real chance that Khan Kiple gets in the NBA and has no chance. That’s the truth. That’s not being critical or or or you know like saying he’s not very good. He’s jumping from one of the top 1500 players in Kite, one of the top 2,000 to one of the top like 200. It’s a massive jump. Right. So like there’s no bigger when we talk, right? Like so there’s a chance like okay let’s go to Trey Johnson for a second. Here’s the number that should concern you on Trey Johnson. He shot 40% from three in college on the NBL. Isn’t that what it’s called? I think on the high school thing. Yeah. He shot like 34. Like okay which sample size is real? Because if Trey Johnson turns out to not be a 37 38% three-point shooter, he doesn’t do enough other things, right? And it’s so interesting. I think the point you made about because I was listening on the way in. I I was, you know, fashionably late. The show started at 6. I was here at 8. Uh but so on my drive up I listened to PK and he was talking with a draft analyst uh from CBS and he was talking about you know basically with the Jazz you know take the you take the best player available and the crazy part in this is I’m looking back just after you said how uncertain this is. Uh I I just pulled up randomly the 2020 draft and at number two in that draft you have James Weisman. Oh, but everybody thought he was amazing at this point. At five, you have a Cororo. Who who who you kind? Yeah, right. Can’t shoot. At six, you have a Gono. Seven, Killian Hayes. Can’t play at all out of the league. Um, and I’m skipping like you got Hallebertton at 12. I mean, Hallebertton at 12. That worked well. N Smith at 14, which was another that’s working. That’s another age, you know, right, but also worth noting that worked on second team, right? Yeah. Yeah. Uh Pokefki was 17. That’s a town in southern Idaho. Yeah. N numbers, darling, by the way. Uh Sadique Bay 19. Yeah. But I mean, that’s my point is that’s one draft we just went through and there’s a bunch of guys that five years removed. Their names aren’t even around. R.J. Hampton. I mean, it’s crazy, right? And and and that’s the thing I think you have to be really honest about this draft analysis is like when you’re sitting around talking about R.J. Hampton at that point, everyone talks about he’s great. Okay. But there’s a the it’s more likely that these players we’re talking about are not going to be rotation players. Top five top five were into a different route. Those guys all almost all end up playing like one out of I think there the rate on bust on top five players is one out of 10 bust. So every other year that’s wild. But like but like hey now let me just say this. This is I think the most important thing. A year ago we were doing this and I liked Cody Williams a lot and Cody Williams just had arguably the worst NBA season maybe that a player’s had in 20 years. I don’t know. have been as excited like you and I were when that thing fell and it was we were both pretty darn I’m with you guys DJ I identified him in November right so the only thing I would say that’s very different about scouting this year compared and so like Kimple verse Cody Williams and some of these on Cody Williams if you actually go back to our conversations a year ago the two plays that I like talked about the most on Cody Williams were actually both turnovers they’re both plays like he burst threw two defenders, got through and then was off balance and did something. One pass went up into the third row and the other one he threw a wild. That draft was so poor that you were literally like scouring for like little tiny flashes of pieces that makes you think that maybe they’d be okay one day, right? So, I literally watched Cody Williams and saw those two. Those were unique to most players I saw in the drafts cuz most guys couldn’t shoot, couldn’t do a bunch of other things were so glaring. Watching this year is totally different than that. The kid Will Riley out of Illinois might be really good. We get him at 21. Danny Wolf out of Michigan is interesting. I would actually to the Jazz credit I think he’s Kyle Filipowski light and he’s going to go like 17 in this draft and flip you know went 32 and I wouldn’t I think Kyle Philipowski is better than Danny Wolf. Danny Wolf’s really interesting though. He’s a sevenfooter that can handle he can do all sorts of really interesting things. He has no verticality. He can’t stretch out. He might not be able to play at all um by the time he gets to the league because he can’t defend and he can’t do various things. He’s really a three in a body that’s going to make him try to play a four or five. He might not be able to do it, which is exactly what Philipki is. Um, but so I would just say this draft is so much better when I watch players like Liam Mclly out of Connecticut. H, but like there’s more there than most of the guys I watched last year. Like this draft is just so much better. Well, I’m going to still hold the Jazz accountable because they went all these trades with the picks and they lost on purpose to get these picks. So now they’ve got to come through. Even if the draft picks aren’t that good historically, it doesn’t matter. The Jazz still need to get get good players because that’s the way they’ve chosen to rebuild. Yeah. No, there’s no question. I mean that I’m not like um Right. And you’ve got to you’re going to probably have three top five range picks here coming up in the next three years. You got to hit on two of them. Okay. Like you don’t have a choice. You have to hit you have to hit on two of Yeah, I agree. And so this is the first one. Um Timmy, what’s your quick thought on Edgecom? You probably watched him more than I have. Uh I really like his burst. U you know, the game that I watched him I watched him live in Provo against uh BYU and just the way he moves, his ability to um you know, create his own shot. He’s got good vision, good IQ. I like him. If anything, maybe a teeny bit small. I’m a little bit nervous about smaller guards nowadays. Um, yeah. But, uh, but I like what I see from a skill standpoint and also from a, you know, just a basketball field standpoint. What pos is he a one or a two? I think he or not matter. I I don’t with him. I don’t think it matters. I mean, he kind of shared duty uh with with the guy in at Baylor, Robert Wright, the third. It’s not a cougar. Yeah. Um, so they kind of he he he by the way, I hope the other Cougars don’t want the ball. Robert likes to shoot. Phantom might. I don’t know. I’m just Saunders might. I don’t know. Maybe. It’s the He gets He gets Watch watch watch three Baylor games. I was like, “Woo!” Yeah, but he can shoot. Yes. Very good player. Coach Coach Rose used to tell me I would he I would bring a guy to him and he’d say, “Timmy, can he shoot?” And I would say, “Yeah, coach, he can shoot.” And he said, “Okay, I Everybody can shoot. Can he make?” Is he a maker, not a shooter? I want a maker. Right. Writes a maker. Yeah, writes a maker. David, this has been fun. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Wait a sec. Victor Oladipo. He’s not the draftable. I think he’s on the outside on BJ Edge. Yeah. Yeah. There’s some That’s a That’s a good call. Okay. All right. Hey, we appreciate it. We’ll talk to you next week. Okay. See you guys. All right. That’s the lock, man. I take old Debo comp right now. Sign me up. I know he’s had some injuries and all that stuff, but aside from that, but but we’ve we came out of this feeling really good about Trey Johnson. Yeah, I Are you ready to say that yet? Not yet, but I’m growing I’m drawing closer. We shall see. Okay, we’re going to give away tickets to Hardy right now. Free tickets. Caller 12 801575 zone. That’s 575-9663. win a pair of tickets to see Hardy on the Jim Bob World Tour and that’s next Thursday at the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater. So get in line, start calling 801575 zone 5759666. We’ll have more of this talk. Stay with us coming up next. 975 KSL Sports Zone. Ladies and gentlemen, may I present This is JJ and Alex. Now, every team has been assigned a Heisman contender. Here’s the dirty secret about BYU. It’s best offensive player barely got to play last season. LJ Martin has serious ability when healthy. 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Call Trajan Wealth today, your local trusted financial fiduciary. 8018997600. Visit the website at trajunwealth.com. Tim Lome SGA is my new favorite player because he Why? Give me the reasons. Give me the reasons. PK, he plays and leads them. OKC beats Minnesota. He scores 38. They’re up 20. And he scores 38 now. He went to the line, I think, 15 times. But in this era of Chuck and Chuck and Chuck, he only shot two threepointers. I’m so sick of watching these guys brick threes. When you are dynamic and you can get to the basket, you can get other shots. He posted up, who was it early in the game, a Devincenzo, and he’s backing him down a little old school and a little shake and bake. turns around, rises up, probably about a 12-footer right side and just banks it off the basket. I thought it was 1985 and it goes in. That’s two points. I know three is better than two, but two is better than zero. I I’m getting and I and I watch Anthony Edwards one of nine from three. And so then he goes 11 of 17 from two. Why, Tim, you know basketball better than me. Why do they insist? Why does the analytics demand threes? You’re one of nine. That’s eight empty possessions. Yeah, you’re exactly right. And I think, you know, we watched it with Boston, you know, all year long. Um, as we talked about it in the studio, Jake Scott, my illustrious co-host on prealf and post uh for the Jazz would say, you know, we’d look at those Celtics numbers, man, the number of threes they shoot, and it obviously, you know, there is something to it. I think um, you know, to your point, SGA had 20 only took 21 shots to get his 38. But the reason is is he’s forcing the issue. People don’t like it, you know, they don’t like the flop stuff. I don’t love the flop stuff e either, but I don’t think this is anywhere near what we saw during the flop era. Agreed. Right. It’s just more more egregious than we see. That’s up to the league to change the rule then. Right. But he is unique because the one thing he can do I said it the other day, he slithers. Yeah. So when he can get into any kind of seam in the defense and then he’s just seeking out bodies, you know. Um, and he’s a great The other thing he’s great at is finishing plays. The other the other day when he got knocked to the ground kind of um, but was falling and, you know, had the almost on the ground and made it uh, made the shot in, got the N1. He’s just got a really unique ability to do that. And I think Anthony Edwards is a strong kid, too. No, he’s really strong. Can absorb contact. Yeah, he had 10 free throws last night. If you’re hot, fire away. But shooting is fickle. You know, the the hard part about it though is you got to think you’re gonna make the next one. And a lot of the looks they got were great. U so it is frustrating on a night by basis, but I guess over time it carries water. Okay. But we come in here and talk day by day, right? No, and I’m with you. I I was never a slave to the analytics. and we were on the, you know, when that really took over, we were on the, you know, on the back end of that. So, we obviously looked at points per possession, all that, but we we certainly we we didn’t necessarily adjust how we played because we took threes anyhow. Yeah. And while you got uh Fet there, I like the three most especially on the offensive board because everybody’s a great time to shoot it 100%. Right. because you know you watch uh you know who’s great at it is Golden State. Draymond is does such a great job of locating Steph. Um but those shots go up, everybody crashes as opposed to when people are guarding Steph, he’s down on the baseline trying to get the ball and they they top lock him. They don’t let him run up through the screen. They just get on top so he has to clear out. Um, in this instance, you’ve got a guy with his feet set, his hands ready, right? Everybody else not near him, and it’s like practice. It’s a great time to shoot a throw. And those guys, their percentages go up. Yeah. Because they’re the easiest shots they get all night, right? I’m 100% fine with that. Uh, but the proliferation of missing threes and the CSGA dominate and only take two, I felt like I was back in the 90s, too. And I talked about this the other day on Tuesday, but Oklahoma City is just put together so well. You know, they have they have size, but they also have tenacious size. And then they can bring different guys off the bench that bring like Caruso in 24 minutes, he was four for seven. He was absolute pest defensively, right? That was his best game. So, anything he does offensively is just a plus. Um, but you can go down the the list. Case Wallace hit a big three to break out. Um, they’ve got great pieces. They’ve really assembled a nice lineup around Shay. And, uh, Barry Traml, columnist now for the Tulsa world, he said they have no first round picks coming off the bench. Isn’t that wild? Yeah. Well, and they missed on some first. I mean, Pokevki, we brought up in 2020, they took a chance on, you know, everybody thinks it went perfect for them. They made some No, it goes perfect for no one. It goes perfect for no one. You just have to hit more than you miss. who did uh the the Pistons won two titles in the 90s, was it? And they had drafted Dark Milsich and Dwayne Wade was available. That’s right. That’s right. And so, you know, to the point I was going to make earlier about what’s the name, the guy that came on from CBS today that I missed, Jake. Kyle Boon. Kyle Boon. So Kyle put his mockd draft out, but one of the comments he said, you know, you just have to kind of you have to put your big board up there and you know, I just feel like we just went through it that 2020 draft, all those names that got taken. Tyrese Maxi was 21 in that draft. Yeah. Desmond Bane was 29, McDaniels was 20 or 30. It’s just wild to me. So this part like the Jazz bringing these guys in and working them out, you know, they are digging to find which is the which is which of these guys is the right guy. When in doubt, take a Caliperry guy. That’s always been my motto. You love Caliperry guys. I think he knows their guards are pretty darn good. And the one thing, hold on a second here. I’ve got uh how to hit my driver longer. Uh I came in from my my break there at the and I and he was having getting instructed on how to hit a driver longer. I said, “Is today uh is today your league day or your club day?” Day. You don’t you don’t implement it on day games? It’s like changing your shot and you’re tipping off. Um yeah, Kentucky guards. Oh my gosh. And uh that’s why the Jazz took Trey Lyles when Deon Booker was on the board. Yeah. I mean, it’s hard. It is an inexact science. I after recruiting guys for so long, even guys you think are just going to be no-brainers. Stuff happens in life, you know. It’s not always about what happens. Okay. Who was a no-brainer no-brainer at BYU that turned into a bust. I’m just kidding. You know, um TJ Haw. No, I’m just kidding. I love TJ. Te, if you’re out there, that was a joke. No, I would I would never But you know, told the crowd at Pacific to shut the f up. Well, I’ll tell you I’ll tell you a guy. So Chris Collinsworth is a guy who I think had the ability to be he had injuries though, didn’t he? Every every bit as good as his brother in a lot of ways, but yeah, his injuries, his knees just didn’t cooperate. So his effort, his energy, his skill level, it was all there. Injuries, you know, that’s the stuff things like that and life situations you just can’t It happens. You can’t figure out. It does, unfortunately. Yeah. I cringe when I say, “Oh, Trey Lyles and head of Deon Booker.” But I I recognize that Dennis Lindsay’s with Detroit now. He’s not gonna bat a thousand or 100 or I guess a thousand is the percentage. You’re going to have misses. It’s like recruiting. Gary Anderson came on. What do he tells Yak you hope to hit uh two out of three or was it one out of three? One out of one out of three means you’re hitting like a good percentage. Two out of three. Awesome. Three out of three. You are go about to be translated to the city of Eno. Yeah. So that’s on high school recruiting. Is that south of Santa Quinn? Yeah, pretty much. Selenus. No, Selena. Oh, Selena. It’s Selenus. You know where Selena? Selena. You know where Selena come? Yeah, I know where it is. One day up near Selenus. Uh-huh. I let him slip away. He’s looking for that home and I hope he finds it. Muddy Waters. Me and Bobby McGee. Oh, okay. Well, you should have sung it. You have such a beautiful sing. I’ve been crushed for 48 hours. I thought all these years, Yak, when we come back next week, we should throw it open to listener. Should I sing on the air anymore? Hey, can I break some news? I don’t know have the full details yet, but I told Yak. Breaking news. Go ahead. The party hounds are playing Cougar Canyon this year. What is Cougar Canyon? It’s just the pregame festivities. Jake knows Canyon Road. Yeah, I know what that is. Right next to the stadium. Set a band up and Yeah, just west there. They close off that street. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. That’s awesome. Yeah, I see those bands there. Don’t know the game yet, so we’ll keep all the games. But So, you’re going to play a singular game. Yeah. Sweet. So, we’ll let you know. And the Utah game, that’s what I’m hoping for. That’s what I’m bargaining for. I I I have been pretty been pretty good luck in that in that rivalry. The team that I’ve necessarily represented has done better than the other. Uh yeah, the rivalry game when that’s in October, right? October 18th. Yep. Oh, the weather should be really good. And October 18th will mark the 150th anniversary of the founding of Brigham Young University. All right. Well, did the big guy did he f did he was the founder of Utah, too? He was. We could dedicate like Iron Man to Brigham Young. I am Iron Man. Or 150 years or George Straight. All my exes live in Texas. So, the week before that, it’s October 10th, and we are playing we’re playing the Texas OU weekend in in State Fair. Is that what they what it’s uh they play it in Jerry World now, but we’re just playing a little Oh, so they don’t actually play in the Cotton Bowl anymore? No, they play in Jerry World. They’ve moved it. So, they it’s still going on when the state fair is going on. State Fair is over by the Cotton Bowl, though, correct? State Fair isn’t there? St. Phyis Fair is still there. Yep. But they games played over. Oh, okay. They moved in 18 stadium. Okay. Yeah, there’s a lot of room there. They got two other baseball stadiums right there. Yeah. I I’m We’re playing just a private event for that one. So, yeah. I’m excited though. It’s uh it’s lining up to be a fun summer or fun fall for the Hounds. So, that is that what that’s traditionally the first Saturday in October. Is that when that game is? Don’t they don’t they have a traditional date? Yeah, it’s I have they kept it in the SEC. It’s either the first or second of October. It’s always it’s always when this Texas State Fair is going on. I want to say first, maybe maybe second, but it’s early in the conference season and it’s a national it’s like uh Notre Dame SC. It’s like Oh, it’s unreal. Yeah. It’s just a national game that happens every year and we’ve lost some of that luster in college. Second Saturday of October. There you go. Yeah. And it’s you watch it every year. Red River Rival Yeah. has gone is happened every second Saturday of October since 1934. Yeah. That says something when you’re losing like bedum is gone. Oklahoma State Oklahoma. Why? But nevertheless, it’s gone. That’s it’s too bad. Yeah. Those things are what to me make it makes that’s what separates college football is the Roberts. NFL, you have some rivals, but very few. Everyone’s a rival and maybe you have a couple of extra ones. NFC East is the league or the division I grew up with living back in Jersey and you got all those teams outside of Dallas. They’re right on top of each other. Who’d you cheer for about when you live back there? I Giants or Jets or nobody? I I like I always liked individuals. Okay. I like guys. Like I was a big Roger Stallback fan. Who couldn’t be? That guy was America. So sort of by extension it would have been the Cowboys, but then when he retired, I I lost interest. Although then when I moved to Arizona, Danny White is all that. I mean, everybody loved Danny White. He was the biggest thing we had in the valley and he was the Cowboy quarterback. So number 11. Yeah. I didn’t really latch on to Danny the way I did Roger, although I’ve golfed with Danny. Yeah, I lived I lived near Danny White when I grew up in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah. He was in our in our geographic region. Unbelievable athlete. Starting in the College World Series in the outfield and starting quarterback and punter. There you go. All right, we’ll wrap up the show. Get you ready for Jake and Ben next. The weekend is slowly creeping upon us here on this Friday 975 the KSL Sports Zone. And it’s all over almost here. Don’t go nowhere. Well, here we are. The weekend, my shift is over. Going to watch some basketball tonight for sure. We will be back. We’re off on Monday. Be back on Tuesday. The regular installment of DJ and PK. And Tim’s been sitting in. You came in twice this week, Tim. It’s been a lot of fun. No, I really appreciate it. I think you got a future in sports radio if you want it. Yeah. Well, we’ll see. I’d like to play the guitar along the way, too. It’ be kind of fun to integrate that in. Uh, yeah. Well, te tell DJ. Uh, I got I got a little time coming up. Um, my annual trip to Jackson Hole that we mooch off some friends. Uh, do you stay at Island Park or where do you stay in in Jackson? Oh, in Jackson. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It’s a family. They’ve got uh as Johnny Cash, great town. I’m going to Jackson. Yeah. My wife’s friend, college roommate, her she married into money and they’ve got some places up there and we’ve been mooching off of them for like 30 some years. You’ve been to that cool uh bar with the the million-dollar cowboy bar? Oh, yeah. Right there on town in town with the Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have saddles at the bar. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. It’s right across from the park. Yep. Yeah. I’ve been there many, many times. So yeah, it’s a lot of fun and it’s gorgeous up there. I I often said if the University of Wyoming was on that side of the state, dude, they’d be a powerhouse. Well, it’s Wyoming and but on the other side of the state now. I love the people of Wyoming. It was a difficult trip particularly for basketball in the winter, but I actually love the people up there. They treated me like gold. I know they have a bad rep, but not the people who worked for the University of Wyoming. McKini and those guys. I don’t know if you remember him. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah. I mean, and what Harkness was one of the other guys. I mean, they were great people. They treated you like you were a guest and they were going to serve you and make sure all your needs were taken care of. Absolutely. So, I I loved being in the football stadium. I loved being in what do they call it? The double A uh pattern right after the Huntsman Center. Uh, it looked like it with the dome only was brown. University of Wyoming at Jackson. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That place on that side and taking the drive up from here up through Star Valley. A little different. And Snake uh the Snake River. I’ve I’ve floated I’ve done the Snake. Oh, it’s a beautiful beautiful spot. Drop deadad gorgeous with the Tetons right there. And I’ve played golf up there. And uh golf has gotten so expensive. I had an inn. So, I don’t know what I’m going to do now because my inn retired at the end of the calendar. Spend some of your mass amount of money for once, would you? Yeah, but I got to spend it twice. It’s okay. You love golf. I know, but it’s not just for me. The misses. Yeah. So, everything is double. Yeah. I can’t tell her, why don’t you just stay with your friend and prepare dinner and I’ll go golf. That’s not going to work. No, she loves to golf. And nor would I ever say that, too. Uh, you would not have a place to sleep that night. That’s very wise. And it would be hard to uh swing because uh you know she might go elimin with me on Tiger. Oh, totally. Chasing you down the street. SUV’s never been the same. Oh, brother. We’re just making light of that. No. So, it’s a gorgeous time. But anyway, I go up there in June for just like a long weekend every year. And uh so if he let you come in, you can uh you can have at it. And if you want to come in, I’m sure, and do your thing. So, but it’s been a lot of fun. Thanks for everybody who came in. I had the KSL Insiders yesterday. Uh, and enjoyed the week. Yak. Have a good holiday weekend. And everybody else out there, Jake and Ben coming up next right here 975 the KSL Sports Zone. See you.
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