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Would trading for RJ Barrett solve the Sacramento Kings PG problem?



Would trading for RJ Barrett solve the Sacramento Kings PG problem?

as we get back into some basketball and it is time for our trade target. So, look, it was a I I came in saying it was Monday. Obviously, it’s Tuesday now. A little bit turned around because of the the day off, but I’m trying to do this hint, Kyle. I always do it off the top of my head. This guy is somebody that we’ve talked about before, a shooting guard from the East Coast that this is just a team that doesn’t really have direction and not really sure if he is still a huge part of what they are trying to do. And we’re going to give you 10 seconds here. 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1. That person is RJ Barrett. So RJ Barrett is our trade candidate for today and there are reports coming out uh that the Raptors may be interested in moving RJ Barrett. Uh this is a guy who is making he just made 25.7 million this year. Next year he’ll make 27 million. After that he’ll make 29 million. He’s 24 years old. You look at Grady Dick and other players on the Raptors. Now you bring in Brandon Ingram. Not really sure where RJ Barrett fits. He’s a young player that I think is right in that second draft. He’s third at this point. He would be third team, but that second third draft candidate where he’s about to be 25 and you might have something there. Honestly, he reminds me a little bit too much from what I’ve seen of D’Angelo Russell. The whole play at your own pace thing. It’s not fully for me, but I’d be willing to take a chance on a 24 year old and get off of, of course, Demar Ro’s contract. We’ll talk a little bit more about how the Kings could acquire RJ Barrett as it looks like the the the Raptors probably have a couple people now. The Brandon Ingram thing just still doesn’t make sense to me. But now that they’ve done it, I I think Grady Dick is probably rated and Emanuel Quickley probably both higher on the Raptors priority list. I think Emanuel Quickley is another guy where you could see the the Raptors just saying, “Okay, well, I don’t know that we need Emanuel Quickley and RJ Barrett and Grady Dick all on the team.” So, a couple names might get brought up here. RJ Barrett, he only played 58 games. Uh 21.1 points per game, 6.3 rebounds per game, 5.4 assists per game. His career average is 18.8 as far as his points per game. So, three points more than that. He shot 35% from threes. A little bit better than his career. 63% from the free throw line. Goodness gracious. As far as his career is concerned, he he was sitting at 21.1 last season, which is essentially the the most of his career. If you look at Yeah. the 20 points per game last season, that’s when the the trade happened. So, yeah, careerhigh in points per game this season. I’m interested. I I don’t know how much it moves me. I don’t know what RJ Barrett is going to be. Uh he’s again 24 to 26, man. It really You go from uh the one of the dudes to hey, are you going to be worth anyone’s time as a star? It really happens that that fast. You have Keegan in that in that realm. You have RJ Barrett in that realm. just a bunch of dudes where we’re just trying to figure out what exactly are you 24 to 26 is the what are you going to be in this league situation. So that’s RJ Barrett. He goes 66. So yes, he is a shooting guard, but at 66 it does say shooting guard and small forward. So you can stick him there and maybe Keegan at the three or or Keegan at the four rather and and maybe that will work. So he’s a guard. Yes. But he is a long guard that can double as a as a small four. Yes. And he was the essentially number three scoring option on a bad offensive team. Mhm. This last season. Yeah. And he was a net positive on the offensive side. He’s also a tell me if you’ve heard this before, a below average defender. So you essentially have him kind of in that purgatory of of what you talked about a bit with Afford Simons and Jordan Pool and other players like that where it’s like they have bucket getting abilities and are good enough to be in the NBA, but who’s the team that’s going to give him the runway to blossom into that guy when the Knicks gave it four years, the Raptors have given it two years, and RJ Barrett’s only playoff appearance was that one year that Trey Young said, you know, bowing to the crowd for the New York Knicks. It’s it’s hard to kind of compartmentalize that with what his potential could be. But he’s also younger than Keegan Murray. So, I guess if we’re going to make the case that Keegan Murray is not a fully formed NBA player, then potentially RJ Barrett isn’t either. But I look at RJ Barrett just kind of as like a probably a number four at this a number three to number four on the offensive side of the ball at this stage of his career which in fairness is what the Kings might be bringing him in for if they made that deal. Yeah. I mean it really just comes down to this is interesting because again based on the age you are getting a guy that is not in his prime yet. He’s 24 25. So, this is to me that let’s take a mini swing and if it doesn’t work out, we’re kind of hybrid tanking and we’re going to get these numbers off the books and go from there. It really just depends. Do you want to go that route or would you rather just get some uh expire, you know, expiring deals, if you will, and you stink and you get back into the lottery. This could honestly elongate a a little longer than than some fans would like, but maybe you keep Damonte Sabonis a little bit happier and you keep ownership a bit happier because you’re not full on tanking. It’s more of a slow burn. Hey, maybe we find something RJ Barrett. If we don’t, hopefully we lose some games. I think the problem is you could find yourself in the middle again. Yes. And they would be banking on hopefully RJ Barrett playing a little bit better on the offensive end of the floor. But the thing that’s very nice is like on defense he can guard threes and on offense he’s essentially a point guard or a point forward. You know, he brings ball handling in a way that Demar De Rozan and Zack Lavine do not. So I think if you added RJ Barrett that kind of fills your two needs. I don’t know if it does it great, but it fills both of your needs. You get ball handling on offense and you get wing defense. not great wing defense, but you get a wing defender at least. So, it it you get length and you get ball handling in one player. The problem is he’s just not great at either. The other fun part is when RJ Barrett, you you remember when the Knicks thought they were going to get Zion Williamson for like four minutes during that one lottery and then they ended up getting the third pick in the draft. Guess who was the general manager of the New York Knicks when they selected RJ Barrett? Let us know. That would be Mr. Scott Perry, current general manager of the Sacramento Kings. You know who else signed RJ Barrett to this 4-year hund00 million extension with the New York Knicks? That would be Mr. Scott Perry. So, he not only drafted RJ Barrett, he also gave him his second contract for $100 million. And then once he left, they traded him for uh the deal that eventually became OG on Anobi. So yeah, you’ve got a connection there. You got the connection there. Lefty as well. Can’t forget that. Just shout out to all the lefties out there. How can the Kings acquire acquire RJ Barrett, but also something just came in from Bada and they have official lines on Demar De Rozan and where he is going to end up next. You’ll never guess who’s not on the list. Alan South, Sacktown Sports. RJ Barrett is the trade target for today. And we have a couple different trades we are going to toss around that Kyle is going to present to us. But I did see this Kyle and I wanted to mention it. Bvada has just come out with their odds for the favorites in the Demar De Rozan sweep stakes and you have in fifth place at plus 525 the Philadelphia and I’m just obviously thinking about this as to how he would get acquired and what the other team would have to give up at number five at plus 525 the Philadelphia 76ers. Interesting. That’s one we haven’t really thought about much. Could you imagine uh a starting five of Maxi Embiid, Paul George? Well, you weren’t here, but we did trade target as Tyrese Maxi. So, we did we did get Dear to Philadelphia. We we we made him go. We made We made him go. It would cost a lot to get Tyrese Maxi, but this was the idea of swinging high on somebody you think could be a star. I am looking at the numbers. It does not look like there’s going to be any way that they’re going to be able to There’s always a way make this work without Oh, let me try it real quick. Uh, we tried it. Nope. No, we tried it. The Denver Nuggets come in at number four at tied at number three actually at plus 375. Kyle’s Toronto Raptors also at plus 375. He’s going home. Which home? Because at plus 220, number two on this list, the Los Angeles Lakers. Well, everywhere Demar D Rozan goes is home. Give me Ruy Hatchimura. That is the deal. And Austin Reeves. It’s not that one. It’s Moxy Cleba. Ruy Hatchima and Don Connect right now. Ruy Hachimura and Moxy Cleba. No, I No. Give me Give me Daltton. Make things right. He was supposed to be ours and the number one uh team at plus 145. Give me Himemeay Hakez. It’s the Miami Heat. Give me Yic and Haime Hawz. Thank you very much. That one might actually I mean you could probably get one of them, right? Yeah. You you’re I’m leaving here with something. I’m leaving here with something. We’re not we’re not doing you know these half-hearted deals anymore. All right. We are leaving here with something. But the team obviously that I found it to be interesting and normally these teams will be on uh these odds list is the team that Demar Rosen is currently on. The Sacramento Kings are not on this list and I don’t think that’s because and I don’t think that’s because he’s already on the Kings. I think it’s because Batada doesn’t think that Demar Rosen’s going back to the Kings. Yeah. What is the exact phrasing of it? Because I haven’t seen the actual uh tweet itself. Is the phrasing next team or team he’ll play for next year? The Miami Heat are favorites to land Demar D Rozan. Okay. So, they’re they’re operating in a world where D Rozan is going to get traded, which again is not like, oh my gosh, how shocking. It’s just kind of making it more of a reality that hey, we’re starting to get into the the nooks and crannies of these trades and everyone kind of feels like D Rozan’s available. all the teams that are involved. I like I like the assets that they would have. Like you said, Tyrese Maxi would be tough. So, I don’t know. I don’t want to get into the Kelly Ubé business. I just feel like he always has a three-year deal somewhere. I don’t know where, but it’s somewhere. I don’t I’m I’m hearing Kelly Ubé and Quinton Grimes. I don’t like that. Don’t like that at all. So, Philadelphia scares me a bit unless It’s not even Quinton Grimes. He’s a free agent. Yeah, Philadelphia scares me a little bit. I’m trying to make it work. If there is a deal where they don’t get any of the big four from the 76ers, which is obviously a be George Maxi, and Jared McCain, uh it would be something I don’t like. Uh Kelly Ubé, Andre Drummond, who they could probably just buy out. You know, he’ll probably never play for the Kings. So, Kelly Ubé, Eric Gordon, and Ricky Council IVth. Yeah, that’s that’s not going to fly for me. And draft picks. The Denver Well, I could be brought in based on the draft picks. Denver Nuggets, that that name popped up. I believe Kendrick Perkins brought up Denver as well. So, Denver to me, that’s probably Michael Porter Jr. type situation there. Yeah. And the Kings can make that work with the trade exception. It’s just do they want to pay I’m trying to do the math in my head. Do they want to pay 90 million over the next two years for Zack Lavine and Michael Porter Jr.? you know that three look you get a you and we talked about him too. You get a point guard and the you know you do have snipers all around the arc. So you’re taking a bet on I don’t think you’re taking a bet on Michael Porter Jr. taking a leap. You’re just saying hey just be good at what you do. Just be really good at what you do and and we’re okay there. Toronto Raptors as we are talking about RJ Barrett. Yeah I I look at I tried to get Emanuel Quickley. I don’t think the Kings could get Emanuel quickly. I’d have to It depends on how much again Demar’s value is, but my initial uh my initial trade dungeon, it would be hard to get Emanuel Quickly. Do I like Emanuel Quickley more than RJ Barrett? Maybe a little just from a point guard standpoint. You know, I I don’t I would rather take a a swing on Emanuel Quickley, I think, than RJ Barrett if possible. the Lakers. It’s going to be some combination of Ruy Aimura, Vanderbilt, guys like that. Gabe Vincent, guys like that. I’m not opposed to that in the Miami Heat. Yeah, I I don’t you’re you have to give me Himea Hakez or Yoic. And I really want Hakez to be honest with you. I think Miami would be okay with getting rid of Hawz at this point. He’s older and was not as good last year. I mean, they’d obviously get something else, but is Duncan Robinson moving the needle? I don’t I don’t feel like that’s changing the fortunes of the Kings in any dramatic way. It is interesting that, you know, that we did the who would we did the match game for Demard Rosen a couple weeks ago of the teams that would make the most sense for him. Uh Detroit and Orlando both didn’t end up on this list of top five most likely destinations. I still feel like both of those fits make sense based on where those teams are and where D Rozan’s at at this stage of his career. Denver, of course, would make sense, but I don’t know if Denver wants to go that route. And then at that point, you’re kind of left with the the Toronto and the Miami and the teams that are kind of on the fringe that, you know, D Rozan’s helping them get back to the playin. And that seems to be all Demar D Rozan is good for at this stage of his career is just dragging teams back to the 910 game of the playin. Yeah. So, you know, a lot of different a lot of different teams might be interested in Demar De Rozan and RJ Barrett being a name. Do we think he’s got Look, he went third, right? Do we think he has any star power? I I’mma be honest. He played on the Knicks. I watched him more on the Knicks. Now he’s on the Raptors. We could fire up some highlights here or there. His name and part of that is Toronto and Toronto not being good, but his name just isn’t brought up and and I guess that’s the whole point of the sleeper idea, but he ain’t getting paid like a sleeper. He’s getting he’s got a healthy contract on he’s getting paid like a number three and he last year he was a number three on the 25th ranked offense in the NBA. So that tells me and again his number one was not very good. But I mean, Scotty Barnes, Emanuel Quickley, and RJ Barrett is not exactly a fearsome a fearsome trio at that point. And I will acknowledge like Barrett will be this is going to be year seven for him. Damontis Sabonis would be the best teammate RJ Barrett has ever played with. Depending on how you feel about 2021, Julius Randall. Yeah, I I would say without question this is going to be the best teammate Barrett’s had at any point in his career if they make the deal. Just I I know we kind of glossed over it, but the deal is just straight up RJ Barrett for Demar Rozan. That’s the trade. No draft picks, no nothing. Maybe someone throws in a second either way, but it’s basically just RJ Barrett for Demar De Rozan, which makes sense for Toronto because if Toronto wants to get from being an 1112 seed to a playin team, all the numbers tell you Demard Rosen is an excellent offensive player and would essentially be a number two on this team with Scotty Barnes and and Emanuel Quickley. I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides. I’ve talked about it before and you gave me the shout this week. You actually informed me about the RJ Barrett rumor with your tweet, but I I think it makes a lot of sense for both sides because RJ Barrett is a slightly more expensive, less good version of Demar De Rozan. But he does have uh better ball handling abilities, which I think could help the Kings. And of course it aligns the timelines with him being 24, Keegan being 24, Keon Ellis being 23, all Devin Carter being 23. All those quote unquote younger players on the Kings would all be on the same timeline with Sabonis and Lavine. There is another trade package that could get the Kings RJ Barrett. Let’s talk about it when we return. Alan Styles on sports. Alan Styles. Watch the show on youtube.com/sacktownports1140 or listen on the sacktown sports app. What will it cost to acquire RJ Barrett, our trade candidate of the day? Now, I wouldn’t put RJ Barrett at the top of my list, but he gets the Kings a little bit younger. He’s got a little bit of star power. He’s played on a big stage out there in New York. gets moved in the OG deal and you know haven’t really heard from him as much since. He is coming off careerh high in scoring since the team was not very good. So the the first trade is just a straight up Demar Rosen and RJ Barrett swap. And if you’re the you’re the Raptors, I mean, even the Raptors to me, if Demard Rosen goes to the Raptors, you can’t take 20 shots a game. You can’t do it. Well, he wasn’t taking 20 a game on the Kings. I mean, he was in certain games, but I don’t think he was putting up that many shots per game. Well, it was a lot. I know that. I know that. And you have again a Grady Dick. You have a Scotty Barnes. Okay. You have a Brandon Ingram who you just paid for some odd reason. So, those are three guys that I’m probably prioritizing over Demar D Rozan when it comes to the shot distribution. You know, it’s also interesting. I’m just looking it up real quick here, but RJ Barrett was way more of a volume score than I realized. Yeah. So, this is crazy. Last season, Demard Rosen took 17 shots per game for the Sacramento Kings. Yeah. More than we probably would have liked, but he took 17 per game. On the Raptors, RJ Barrett took 18.9 shots per game last year. I It’s so funny to think about that because Toronto was a bad offense last year, but in a weird way, Demar De Rozan fits better into what they’re doing than RJ Barrett does. I know the age thing is a little weird, but in terms of their actual skill sets because they have quickly who they can make the primary ball handler and facilitator with Grady Dick at the two and Scotty Barnes at the four. In a weird way, D Rozan is a better fit than RJ Barrett is for them right now. And I’m I’m kind of talking myself into the trade, but I didn’t realize just how much of a merchant RJ Barrett was last year. Well, you’re making that deal because Raptor fans would be happy besides Drake. And you make a decision very similar to what the Pelicans did. Hey, we’re choosing to we can only it’s good to have young talent, but we can only we can only form so much talent and there’s only one ball, right? So, if we think that Grady Dick is more important and Scotty Barnes is more important and Brandon Ingram, who we just paid is more important and Emanuel Quickley, then RJ Barrett, you’re just not going to you’re just not going to get enough touches and we don’t want you taking shots. But the same conversation is had with Demar Rozan. It’s just, hey, Demar, you’re at the end of your the end of your road here. You we’ll start you. You might even come off the bench at some point when you need to take over in that closer role. Cool. But yeah, we need you at about 12 12 shots a game, 15 a game, something like that. Closer to 12. If you need to close a game for us, cool. It’s easier to tell a a 36-year-old dad than a 24 year old and RJ Barrett who’s going to say, “Well, then why am I here?” Yeah. And RJ Barrett’s kind of in this weird spot in his career where I guess based on his draft positioning, he’s been fine so far, but I think most people would say RJ Barrett has had a bit of a disappointing career up to this point. And that’s hard to say for someone who’s averaged 20 points per game each of the last what four seasons, but he’s mostly done it on teams that have lost a lot of games. I’m actually going to look it up what RJ Barrett’s win percentages for his career, but yeah, he’s been a number two or number three on a lot of teams that are bad or below average. And I think a big part of that is that they’ve been bad defensive teams for most of his career. So, the second trade package that Kyle has cooked up, you have the you have the Raptors, okay, acquiring Malik Monk, Terrence Davis, and pick number 42. And why am I most upset with pick 42 being gone in that trade and the Kings acquiring RJ Barrett? This to me is a bit I guess more convoluted than the first one because Malik Monk I guess you’re running him at the two again. What is the best asset that the Raptors are getting in this trade? I guess it’s Malik Monk, but I guess it’s also the financial flexibility. Not that they need financial flexibility, but the financial flexibility that comes with getting off of RJ Barrett’s contract, because I think the gap in money there is like $10 million, which the Kings are able to do cuz they have a little bit of trade space. I’m not going to say cap space. They have trade available space before the apron. But yeah, Toronto, I think it would just be we don’t want RJ Barrett anymore, which based on some of the reports seems like that might be a truer statement than not, is that they don’t really want RJ Barrett all that much anymore? Yeah. And the priority that I see, I know that they, you know, they’ve been saying, what was it last? Was it last year where Scotty Barnes had that leap and then this year they thought he was going to keep it going? I know last year was a break. They kept telling us it was a breakout season. Nobody watched, but he wasn’t. I believe he was an all-star. He’s been an all-star. I think that was, let’s see, 2024. Yeah. So, the last year was his leap year, if you will. And then this year, I don’t he’s another guy. Are you playing? The Raptors stink. So, they’ve made decisions and RJ Barrett, thank you for your service, but that decision has kind of been made. I looked it up. It’s he took a step back last year. He shot his three-point percentage went from 34% in his All-Star season to 27%. His points per game went down. His assists per game went down. Uh, his field goal percentage dropped off tremendously. Yeah. Know, Scotty Barnes had a tough year last year. I guess like you said, they were a fun league pass team at the end cuz you could see Brandon Ingram and Scotty Barnes and Emanuel Quickley, but yeah, Scotty Barnes had a rough season last year. When I look at Brandon Ingram and RJ Barrett and I know the last time Brandon Ingram looked like a point guard was against the Kings in the playin when Zion Williamson didn’t play, but yeah, I just think they’re a smidge redundant. I think RJ Barrett is a much better and more willing three-point shooter than Brandon Ingram, but it’s just again there’s only one ball really the decision wasn’t between Scotty Barnes and Grady Dick and RJ Barrett. I think the decision was between Brandon Ingram and RJ Barrett and deciding, you know, Brandon Ingram who basically a decision was made in New Orleans for Trey Murphy. Now you have the Raptors making a decision. Will that work out for them? I mean, who’s gonna have a better career, Brandon Ingram or RJ Barrett? Brandon Ingram has definitely had more moments. Brandon Ingram has made an all-star team. Yeah, Brandon Ingram has definitely had more moments. I would I would maybe trust that the way that they’re trusting it. He’s had some injury issues, but yeah, RJ Barrett to me, what that ceiling is is a little bit confusing, and I don’t know. That’s the one guy where the Raptors aren’t going to be able to shop him around and and really say, “Oh, well, who wants RJ Barrett, right? We’re going to the highest bidder.” I just don’t I just don’t think that the bidder is that high because so many teams you either sink in. We have our own questionable 24 year old that we’re still trying to and we don’t have four others like you do. So, we’re gonna keep our 24 year old and see if he can figure it out. The Kings, they don’t. And we have multiple really a lot of these teams. The Kings don’t. So, the Kings might say, “Yeah, do we need RJ Barrett as far as that position?” H maybe. But would we rather have him at 24 than Demar De Rozan at 37? Yes. Yeah. It’s funny. He essentially, you know, we’ve been talking about they need length and they need ball handling. He essentially gives them a backup version of both of those things, right? Like they would rather have Jake Lorravia defending threes than RJ Barrett, but at least RJ Barrett can defend threes instead of D Rozan where they just had to hide him in the corner the whole time. And then ball handling, you don’t want him as your primary point guard. But RJ Barrett can handle the ball better than Zack Lavine or better than Demar De Rozan did. So, and I don’t even I could you could you could throw Malik in there, too. And I don’t I don’t I wouldn’t but in spurts I would rather have RJ Barrett ball handling than Malik Monk. Yeah. RJ Barrett his career only 3.3 assists but he did have 5.4 this past season. So he’s over my threshold as far as the assists are concerned. And you know it’s a fine it’s a fine swing if you’re going to go in that direction. I’d rather just go get Jonathan Kaminga if the Warriors. Now again, the Warriors would have to be interested, but I would that’s who I would rather take a chance on. A little bit younger, more athletic at this point in time. Obviously, RJ Barrett’s a better shooter and a better distributor of the basketball, but I would rather go with RJ Barrett or with with Jonathan Kaminga. Bringing it back to the Barrett and his future point, if you had to guess right now, RJ Barrett got $27 million per year on his second contract. Do you believe that his third contract is going to be for more or for less? Less. You would say less. I would say less. Well, then at this point, he’s a number four, right? Cuz in the modern NBA, 27 million means you’re a number three, right? D Rozan’s making 25 million, he’s a number three. Malik Monk’s making 18 million a year, he’s a number four. Right? So that the idea is he’s a number three now and he’s about to be passed around to his third team on this contract. I’m saying I could be wrong and then he gets he does get the bag, right? It’s essentially it’s funny you’re trying out while making $30 million, but it’s basically I’m trying out for my next contract in in through the through the guise of me performing with my now third team of my career. Yeah. Because essentially there’s last year they they wanted a big three of Scotty Barnes, Emanuel Quickley, and RJ Barrett. And at the midpoint of the season, they decided RJ Barrett ain’t a number three. And they got a nice little discount on Brandon Ingram, but they did have to give up a first round pick to get Brandon Ingram and then pay him $40 million. So that big three is going to be R.J. or I’m sorry, Emanuel Quickley, Scotty Barnes, and Brandon Ingram. If you integrate Demar De Rozan, I think Demar De Rozan works alongside Brandon Ingram in a way that I know they’re both mid-range assassins, but I think your your team makes a little bit more sense that way than it does with RJ Barrett being a spot-up shooter because that’s not RJ Barrett’s best ability. There is another team interested in Demar D Rozan. Would you make a move to send him to the east coast down south sports huge news right now at Wendy’s you can

On today’s edition of The Allen Stiles Show, he dives into another potential Sacramento Kings offseason trade target: Toronto Raptors guard RJ Barrett.

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  1. Nothing good will happen to this team as long as we have an owner who can’t stop meddling in basketball decisions. To talk otherwise is foolish. You can’t fix an imbalanced roster if you keep having an owner push for players and moves he wants. Even the Maloofs let Geoff do his job.

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