Big O and Ira Winderman – The Miami Heat NEED to Bring in a SCORER!

Big O and Ira Winderman – The Miami Heat NEED to Bring in a SCORER!

This is the big old [Music] show. This is the big old show. [Music] All right. All right. All right. There he is. You got like a blurred background. Yeah. I I I didn’t I I actually wasn’t ready and wasn’t wearing the regular golf shirt, so I figured I’d go with the blurred background for now. But uh we can adjust need be. But um No, you’re good. You’re good. You’re good. I It’s just kind of new. That’s all I’m just kind of that I I I wasn’t I wasn’t fully in place. So, uh so I adjusted. I got to the computer. I saw you sent me the link for today. These holiday weeks are always a little bit sort of, you know, a little bit different what day it’s going to be, but we have things to talk about. We have issues to address. So, uh I So, I figured, hey, I got the time. Let’s get going. That’s good. And I have no problem with that. And uh since there is some stuff to talk about, obviously um I thought last night Minnesota lost out on a hell of an opportunity. Uh Ant-Man Ant-Man has to be special for them to, you know, if you’re going to go, if you’re going to beat SGA is special, that funky little side uh shot that he made last night, you know, off balance. Uh this kid is special and so he’s doing what he’s supposed to do. what he had 40 last night or something. Uh he did and Jaylen Williams had a game and it just showed you young uh versatile talent makes a difference. But you know what because I know big O you always take me back to Bam and to relate to the Heat. This is a league about scoring and we can talk about versatile defense and we could talk about playmaking and being complete and that’s all well and good. You’ve got to have scoring and Minnesota. I’m not a Julius Randle fan but when he’s scoring they’re a much better team. So, I understand why you make a move for a player like that. I get the whole scoring thing. I I’ll take you back a day before that. I was never a big Carl Carl Anthony Towns fan. Always felt he was somewhat soft. I thought Jimmy actually had some of that right. But he can score. And for all those years of the Knicks trying to play lowcoring and Tibs running guys into the ground, sometimes you need a a cat 40 burger or a 15-point fourth quarter to really pull you through at the end. And I just hope there’s a lesson that the Heat look at these playoffs and you can be all the hardest working meanest blah blah blah blah blah you want, but you’ve got to score the basketball. And if you look at moves that teams have made, Jaylen Brunson’s not a good defender. Tyresese Hallebertton’s not a good defender. But you win with those players because they consistently can put the ball in the basket. Pascal Seakum, they added the offense they needed. All season people were questioning, “Oh, the Pacers, they don’t defend. They’re going to get burned in the end.” Well, they’re defending fine, but they’re scoring. And you could look at three, four, sometimes five people on the floor for them. And what they’re doing, they have offense out there. Big old, we’ve got to move out of the stone age. We’ve got to get back to where it is. Just like in football, you can want to run the ball and play in the mud and do all that. We saw with the Dolphins way too often, you have to score the ball, right? If you have the deep threats, you have to get the ball to the deep threats because Tyreek Hill running around and not getting the ball or taking short passes ain’t going to cut it. The same thing with Wadd. Sports is more fun when you score. I think you’d agree with that. Sports is more fun when you play wide open. I hope that he takes that lesson this off season. Ira, I’ve told you on this segment already several times. This is why you have to adjust with with the times. Whatever it is, it doesn’t matter. Things are going to change in life. And I’ve said already for several years why Bam isn’t a star. Because a star in today’s NBA must be able to impose their offensive will. Okay. in the ‘9s. Bam is a star, an absolute rock star in the ‘9s because that was more his game. But because it’s not in him to impose his offensive will, we end up with this. And then Tyler can score, but he can’t impose it because then they’ll play defense on him and he’ll slow down or he won’t be the same. special players. They’re all going to get attention, but the special players find a way to score. And it has to be from inside of them that they have to have that killer desire that you’re not going to stop me or like Jimmy Butler, you’re going to make me go to the line. You’re going to make me go to the line. You’re going to make we’re going to fall seven times and we’re going to get up eight. Right. That was Alexander every game is going to give you 10 points from the foul line. He’s going to bust his ass to get there. But the difference with Jimmy is she also can shoot and also can score. Look, your reference to the 80s. Let’s face it, and I know this I I hope he’s not listening. The only person I hope he’s not listening right now, but Charles Oakley might be unplayable in today’s NBA. God bless him for what he did and what he didn’t offensive wise. Sam can be sort of similar to what Marcus Cami was back in the day. And that was good enough. Score sometimes, defend all the time. That’s not it anymore. So, I even wrote today the Suns Sentinel in my Ask IRA feature. Bam is at least an A minus and A defender. I get all that, but you’ve got to be at least a B+ scorer also in not a B minus, not a C plus. That’s the difference for Max Money. Times have changed. It’s kind of strange, but for all the greatness of Spo and Pat Riley and everyone, damn, this has been a really slow to adjust team. And you get people like the Don Schulers over the years who maybe didn’t adjust to the times. Maybe even a Jimmy Johnson during his Dolphins time. Maybe even a Nick Sabin during his Dolphins time. You have to adjust to the times a little bit more. And that’s what the Heat need to do this off season. You don’t have to necessarily change leadership, but leadership has to change a little bit more. I think that’s what matters as much as anything. Yeah. I I I I don’t I’m not saying to remove anybody. I’m just saying guys, things have changed and you refuse to change. You just can’t buy that free agent anymore. The only way they come available is if you have a bunch of picks and you have space and you guys continue to fail to put yourselves in that position. So, unfortunately, now you have to go through the painful process of and the only way you’ll get into that position is by gutting your team, getting rid of the two guys that you thought were stars. get whatever picks there and reset for the next couple of years. And I get it. It’s gonna suck. I get it, Mickey. The maybe the building won’t be as full. Maybe the people won’t be as pumped up. But dude, you’ll start to turn the corner and go in the direction that you need to go in. This way, we’re guster rotting the We’re just running our heads into the wall, into the wall, into the wall, doing the same Look, and this started several years ago when when when Riley shoved Whiteside right down Spo’s throat. And once he did that, it was proving that he refused to adjust with what’s going on when Spo’s trying to tell you, “Bro, did you see me what I just did in the big three era? It’s it’s positionless. Stop giving me a dude that’s limited.” And so now he had to deal with that. And then what did Riley say? Oh, no. You guys got to get along. You guys got to figure it out. No, dude. That guy doesn’t fit. And now what does he say? Oh, they got to play better defense. Dude, that’s not going to bail you out. It’s going to help, but it’s not going to be the ultimate answer. Oh, it’s not. Not in this league anymore. This is not a defensive league. Do you need to make stops? Yes. Yes, you got to stop bleeding. Yes, you got to stop runs. Of course, you got to stop at a play in a moment, in a two-minute or whatever. Yeah, you got to have some defenders for that. But the days of locking teams down and keeping them down into the 90s and even to the low hundreds, that is over, bro. It’s over. And you know what, Big O? I’m going to give you example A. The Indiana Pacers, for a couple of years, everyone said the same thing. They can score, but they can’t stop you. So, it’s not going to matter. And I think what we’re learning right now, this is what’s changed. The Heat used to try to take defensive players and make them scorers and make it work that way. Right now, what Rick Carile did in Indiana is he took scorers and he’s making them defend. And he turned it the other way. You’ve seen some of these possessions against the Knicks. The Pacers defense has been fantastic. They’re back to five men on a string. They’re all playing together. They’re getting it done. They’re forcing 24 second violations. that might be the more doable way. I’ll give you an example, a name that’s out there right now, I don’t know if you plan on bringing it up or not, but I’ll bring it up anyway, is Demar D Rozan. Not a huge fan of him and what his mid-range shots, but if you can add his offense to this team and not give something up, go for it. Bring in a scorer. Now, I’m not saying to give up draft capital, give up young players or any of that, but go for the offense. If you’re not sure of Nico Yovic as a defender, make him a defender. But he can move the ball. He can handle the ball. He can shoot the ball. He can give you more offense. Stop holding off from doing that. Take the chance. And you know what? The beauty of the NBA season is this. It’s an 82 game season. You can get to where you want to be at the end by trying something else at the beginning. I would love to see that he’d come out of camp next season with more of an offensive bent, maybe hitting the offensive glass a little more, maybe giving up a little bit of their kind of BS defensive identity because you know what, Big O, the Miami Heat finished ninth in defensive rating this season. And where did it get them? The 10th best record in the Eastern Conference, the 20th best record in the NBA. So, at what point, the definition of insanity, do you keep banging your head against the defensive wall and expect different results? We’re going to win with defense. No, you’re not going to win with defense. The Pacers score. The Knicks this year, even Spolster said this, are an offensive team this year. Yes, they have Ojanobi. Yes, they have Josh Hart. Yes, they have players who can defend, but Muel Bridges also can score. And that matters also. So, I would like to see one, it’ll be more fun. It’ll be more entertaining and maybe they could find that way. You know what? If your even your big old show going back to on the end of the AM dial and wherever you were, if you did the same show right now that you did 30 years ago, you would be a dinosaur and you would be in trouble. You have to evolve. I would love to see the Heat get rid of their mods. I would love to see the Heat go back to a small C with heat culture. You keep hanging on to the past. You can still do it with the same people if the people like you’ve seen are able to pivot, are able to move on to the next thing, are able to adjust. We’ve seen some brilliant older minds in the game realize Greg Papovich during the Heat playoff series in in in in 2011 through 14 kept talking about the three-point shot and he hates it. And I remember he started his press conferences. What do we want? A four-point shot, a five-point shot? It’s all a gimmick. And then his team started shooting threes. Why? Because you have to adjust to the game. That’s where the game has gone. So you have to see that from your team. Also, I would love to see an epiphany from the Heat that’s saying, “Hey, this is the talent we have. This is the draft choices we have. These are the options we have. But let’s design a game that’s not most blah blah blah blah blah blah this. Get rid of mods. score the damn basketball and work around that. And I think you’re seeing it in the East Finals with the Knicks offensive team, not your grandfathers or your dad’s New York Knicks. Indiana Pacers offense first. Rick Carile took care of the defense. I think it’s a more fun way to win and I think it gets you basically into the 2020s where you sort of need to be about now. And and listen, right now your your hope right now is that one of these other young cats turns into something special. Uh you’ve got what the 16th pick in the draft. Is that correct? You have the 20th pick in the draft. In the draft, you’re that’s probably I mean I’m not saying that it’s impossible. Sure, a superstar can come out of there, but it’s rare for you to get that. So to me, the only sign that that tells me that you’ve you’re you’re going to do that is if you trade one of trade one of those two guys or both of them. To me, that’s the only way you’ve got and I’m going to I’m going to give you a little bit less drastic. You’re not the answer. They’re just and I get that. But if we have to take subtle steps and last year’s draft was was interesting and there have been others like this. You had a guy like Jared McCain who came out and went to the Sixers. He was injured early in the year, but he was a great scorer. At number 20, don’t give me this. Well, he might not defend and he might not rebound like we like. No, get the guy who can shoot the absolute crap out of the ball. Work around the rest of it. Couple of years back, the Heat went for sides with Precious Aua. I know Adam Simon hates me bringing this up. Bypass Tyresese Maxi. Bypass Desmond Bane. Maybe at some point you get back to what you even did with Tyler Herro. Yes, he has alligator arms. He’s not a defender, but he can score the ball because it’s been Tyler Herro who’s kept the Heater afloat during this Jimmy I don’t give a crap time until he was moved. And here I think is the fault of the trade that they made for Jimmy Butler. They tried to get Jimmy 2.0 and Andrew Wiggins and God bless him. And you know what, Bigo? He’s a nice two-way player. But you knew that, Ira. He’s not He’s not mentally wired like Jimmy. No, I understand that. But I understand. But he’s also not mentally wired to be an MFer scorer. Maybe in retrospect, you make a play for Kaminga or you do the Durant trade when they had a chance with Jimmy and you get scoring. I think there really needs to be sort of a Miami Heat retreat and say, “Hey, God bless you. Ninth place is scoring. We’ll give you a lovely ninth place participation trophy, but we’ve got to be better than 21st on offense for two reasons.” Yes. One, that’s how you win. Two, it’s kind of fun. So if we’re going to be a 42 and 40 team or a 37 to 45 team at least you might leave Cassaya center and say damn that lost hurt but man that was fun when they were on that 150 run. I think they have to change that a little. I don’t think they’ll ever acknowledge or ever admit it because we have too many piffy slogans. You could put that matter of fact when you do the Acura Penrook Pines billboard. Okay, and you have me retweet it. Put up too many piffy slogans because we have to really move away from that. Yeah. No, I’m with you. And listen, by the way, I believe the culture, the he culture is alive and well and very healthy. The problem is their their direction, their their their plan. That’s the part that’s kind of out of sorts. And if you go with what we’re talking about here, you go find the offensive player, dude, your culture will make him a better defender. Are you going to make him, you know, all of a sudden shut people down? No. But hell, Tim Hardaway got here and started sticking his hands in the middle of the passing lanes and getting some steals and he would take some charges every once in a while. You’ll start doing those kind of things because you’ve done it to other players. Wade going for steals, blocking shots. Most block shots from a player under 65 and probably under 63 also that you can add to it. best team defender ever in in in Heat history. He’s the best team defender actually, you know, right amongst up there. But exactly the PJ Browns, God bless him, this isn’t their time. This time has come and gone. The Anthony Masons, this time has come and gone. Honestly, I’m going to tell you something, and this might seem like sacri sacrilege. I’m not sure Alonzo Morning had enough offense to be as effective a two-way player in today’s NBA. And God bless Zo as one of the franchise cornerstones. So that’s a bit of the difference right now. Even Khell wear last year unless he develops more of an offensive game unless he hits the three. You have another guy who can’t score. Stop throwing out all these guys in your lineup who cannot score. You have to have five live threats like the Pacers do when they get N Smith to score now and Seakum to score. Miles Turner hitting that midi. I don’t care where the shots coming from. He can score. That’s the difference. You have to have a live offense. I totally agree. Hopefully, they move in that direction. And you know what? They won’t. And and by the way, uh that’s the reason why I enjoy the WNBA so much. Uh because in the W, they play the inside outside game. And it’s it’s still like kind of that basketball that I grew up with that I that I love. And so I appreciate the women’s game more than ever because there’s still post players. the post still matters and they still play the inside outside game and I like that actually. So to me the older elements of the NBA are completely alive and well in the WNBA. I find it really cool. Well, and you saw the scoring the scoring had been really up at one point then came down sort of during the rally. Everything about Pat Riley’s career. Showtime Lakers as good offense as maybe we have ever seen grind and grit New York Knicks as good as defense and fouling and other stuff as we’ve ever seen. And yet the rest of the league went back up and the Heat are still leveling here talking about we’ve been a top 10 defense for the last x amount of years and it’s been good for us. No, it really hasn’t in the play in years and what you’ve been required to do and beyond that it’s not sexy and it’s not scintillating. And the Heat’s whole thing has been there’s nothing more centil scintillating or sexy than a W. Well, no. I got to sit through 48 minutes of that. I’d kind of like to have fun on the ride as well. Yeah. They have to understand that what you have it’s great. It’s foundational, but it cannot be what is premier in your in your franchise. What is the elite part of your franchise? It has to be offense. Has to be offense. the day the days of defense leading it. Those days are done, man. All right. What do you got going on in the Sentinels so folks can check you out? You know what I’m talking about now is I I proposed a couple of things. In my Sunday comment, I said the one thing we’re seeing is the depth of talent around the NBA. Indiana’s depth, they have eight quality players. Even Tom Tibido is is forced to play deeper. The ultimate example is the Oklahoma City Thunder. I mean, they have really good guys. They can’t even play. So, if we’re talking about a Heat having a problem at the top, that’s all well and good, but they also have to develop a little bit more playable depth. And you and I have said this on our Acura Penrook Pines report. The Heat right now have a bunch of eighth and ninth men. That’s all well and good, but you’ve got to have that fifth man, that sixth man, that seventh man. They’ve got to work a little bit more on their depth of talent. Other teams have found a way besides drafts, besides free agency with the right trade for the right players. I mean, Aaron Nmith’s a perfect example right now in Indiana. you can find the right players if you aggressively go out and do your research and find a guy who’s almost on the cusp and can make that move. So that’s one thing. The other thing is and you totally disagree with this is I think if the Heat do take a gap year with Tyler and he with Tyler and Bam, I do think there’s a way to at least add a little more offense whether it’s a D Rozan or Durant to at least juice the product a little without having to give up too much of your future. But yeah, eventually there has to be a turn. You were the 10th place team in the East this year. You were the 20th place team in the NBA that matters. That calls for major changes along the way. I agree with that. It’s really become the norm. That’s who they are now because that’s what your talent is and that’s the part that they just don’t seem to want to understand that the talent and the way you play is completely hurting you. And they’ve got to change that. All right. Adam, I asked Ira today. I even said, “Hey, we like I mentioned, maybe he’s we’re not our biggest fan of him, but Carl Anthony Towns is a little bit more of what Bam Mabio has to become. You’ve got to be able to offer a little bit more offense.” So, I addressed that in today’s Ask Ira and sassy passing. Follow him on Twitter at Ira Heatbeat and catch his fantastic work there like I do at the South Florida Sunset. Ira, have a fantastic week. We will and still we might have given the wrong days. Let me give you two different opens. Hey, welcome everybody to Tuesday’s Acura of Penrookch Pines Report. Three, two, one. Hey, welcome everybody to Wednesday’s Acura of Penrookch Pines Report. I’ll get the dates right next week. Thanks, Big O. You got it, my brother. Be good. Never a problem with Ira. He can come on anytime he wants. Doesn’t matter. It’s all good. We’ll be prepared. We can do it. It’s not a problem. 17th anniversary sale is going on at Acra Penroke Pines. Tell them that big old sent you. They’ll take care of you. And folks, we still have 2024 RD ZDXs. I’m sorry. I was going to say RDX. My wife has her RDX. They have the RDX there, too. 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