Hour 2: What is Trending | Should the Utah Jazz Keep Their Picks? | What Options do the Jazz Have?

Hour 2: What is Trending | Should the Utah Jazz Keep Their Picks? | What Options do the Jazz Have?

It’s time to get your morning started with the news you need to know. News of news day. This is what’s trending with DJ and PK. #NBA. You know, the day big market, the small market has been over. Social media will carry it. The way that guys play will carry it. Shay versus Tyrese is a good matchup. got two young teams, London teams, teams that shoot 11 threes. You know, everybody wants it to be at New York and LA. Well, apparently those teams ain’t good enough for it to be there. So, you know, this is the way the cookie crumbles. It’s the way it’s always been. So, small market, big market. We want to see the best teams there and the best players. Shaquille O’Neal dismissing the whole, “Oh, wo is me. Small market, NBA finals, best players, best teams.” Who’s got Whoa. People who want to see Lakers Knicks or Lakers Celtics or Warriors me over a of a basketball series. Yeah. Really? He doesn’t want to hear it. Pacers delayed in arriving in Oklahoma City. Severe weather had to land in Tulsa, refuel, finally fly into Oklahoma City. Well, they’re there and game one is tomorrow night and we’ll get that thing going. I once was coming back from Mexico and had to go through Denver and we circle circle circled because it was high winds and they were running out of gas. So we had to go to Albuquerque to gas up. Got back to Denver and went through customs and then of course missed my connecting flight. Then they say, “Oh, you can go to Las Vegas like this like 9 10:00 at night and we get into Las Vegas and there’s no flights to Salt Lake. There were never was any. They totally screwed us. They just fle to Las Vegas and left you there. So, I get there and I’m at the counter and I tell the guy, he says, “Well, we got a flight at 6:00 a.m.” And I said, “Why did you guys fly me to to Las Vegas?” And he said, “Oh, we didn’t. You just wanted to come down here and have a free night on us in Las Vegas.” Oh, yeah. That was the plan. I went nuts. Nice. Lit him up, huh? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I I did. and he took off and I was right in his face and he says, “And you know what, too? Since you’ve been doing this to me, I’m going to take you off the list on the 6 a.m. You’re not going to be on that flight.” And I I just I was probably the maddest I’ve ever been. Uh excluding a couple times with you, of course. And uh I I went nuts. At this point, it’s like 1:00 in the morning. And uh sleep-deprived US is pretty rational and ready to go. Let’s go. Yeah. And so I said, “Well, screw that.” I went, we got a car, drove to St. George, slept there, and then drove home the next morning. And this would have been like uh Saturday or Sunday. Monday morning, first thing after the show, I called the airlines and I was livid and I don’t know what they did to the guy. Uh, but you aired him out pretty good. Yes. And then they gave me all the money back. Oh, nice. And, uh, paid for the rent a car. And then the next time I was in Vegas and had a layover, I went looking for him. You did that? I did, too. The only thing I regret Come out. come out wherever take out my phone and took a picture of him at the time. Ah, yeah. I I I wanted a free night in Vegas. I’ve only been to Vegas probably 1400 times. You’re over it. And I need another free a free night in Vegas. You’re over it. I don’t gamble anyway. Hey, the New York Knicks are gambling. They fired their head coach Tom Tibido. Five years on the job. They’re in the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time since 2000. Well, yeah, we just had our best playoff run in 25 years. Let’s let’s fire the coach. Does that make any sense to you? No, but a lot of times firings don’t. So, this is an extreme example, but he was probably going to get fired anyway at some points. What? Name me a coach in New York outside of Red Holesman who didn’t get fired. I hear you. But maybe you brought it back one time and the East I we still got a whole off seasonason to go, so who knows? But right now, the East looks pretty wide open. This team, that team, who knows? It seems like you ought to give it another shot. That’s the Knicks for you. Yeah, I can remember the uh who was it? Detroit fired Rick Carlile and brought in Larry Brown and they won the Yeah, it could happen. Sure, you could hit gold. Seems like the exception to the rule, but okay. Well, why would they? Doug Collins was fired and they were doing well and look what happened at Chicago. Not to say this is happening or to justify it. I’m just saying it’s a crazy business. Shams is reporting on ESPN. The Kevin Durant mutual interest for a potential trade. Phoenix and Houston, Phoenix and Miami, the Knicks, Minnesota, San Antonio. What will happen? Those are teams that have been mentioned other places. Seems logical. Okay, sure. See how that shakes out. Yeah, I never thought I’ve never bought that. Phoenix just is so bleak. Blah blah blah. Cuz all you got to do is make one deal and away you go. It could happen. You can restore what you given. Not to say that they’re going to be a contender, but all that they lost, they can quickly get back. DJ and PK #NFL. One of my favorite plays of all time is probably my favorite play all time is Barry Sanders. So, probably similar to that. Maybe one day like it’ll be out of nowhere. I’ll probably be balling and just be like, “Yeah, call it quits.” That’s Saquon Barkley, the Eagle star, running back on possibly retiring early. Sanders is a zero. Maybe he’ll walk away like Barry did. Well, Barry, no, he he he cut left, then he cut right away. That’s how he walked. Okay. Heard of the general manager. Cut away. That guy, the way he could run, man, that was something. Dallas Cowboys corner Trayvon Diggs could lose out on half a million dollars. He did not participate in the team’s offseason program. He’s opted to rehab his surgically repaired left knee in Miami. He’s missed the first two phases of the team’s offseason program. Excessive absences could cost him the 500 grand. Seahawks coach Mike McDonald made it clear the team plans to start Sam Darnold despite rumors emerging he could be some planted some up and down performances in offseason practices lately. Seems a little early to be worried about that, but quarterback speculation in the NFL makes the world go around, I guess. Well, I thought that he was going to be the guy. Yep. This story sort of caught me by surprise and I thought that that was the plan. You got rid of Smith, they brought in him and away you go. Gina wanted more money than you wanted to give and they gave Sam Darnold three years. Although the way the guaranteed money is stacked up, they don’t have to give him three years, but this year he seems like the guy. Vikings legend Jim Marshall, part of the fame purple people eaters, passed away yesterday at the age of 87. He held the record for consecutive games played, 282 in a row until Brett Favre broke that record. 282 straight games on the D line in an era when they were playing 14 games a year. That’s remarkable. That’s unbelievable. 20 years. DJ and PK # Major League Baseball. Jazz Chisum to lead things off here in the seventh. Drive to right. It’s deep. Going back. Goodbye line drive. Home run Jazz Chisum. It’s 2-1 Yankees. Not played since that first inning on the 27th. Now he drives the O2 deep to right field. Barger at the wall. It’s gone again. Solo homer for Harper in his first at bat back and the Phillies go back to back to make it three nothing in the first. Here’s Jake Croninworth. First pitch swinging. Ground ball to the right side. Base hit through. Jackson Merrell is going to score. Pounders have a 3-2 lead on the two out single by Jake Croninworth. Little two out magic. Pitch swung on and hit deep left. Back goes NMO. Still going back. This ball has off the wall. Around third is Edmond. The Dodgers are going to win it. Freddy Freeman with a walk-off double. And the Dodgers win it six to five in 10 innings. Dodgers taking down the Mets. The two teams right behind him. Padres’s and Giants squaring off. And you hear Jake Cron drive in the winner there. Manny Mashado four hits. Padres’s win three to2. Bryce Harper back from his back injury. He returns. He’s got a home run. Your childhood team, the Philadelphia Phillies, beat the Blue Jays 8 to3. Well, mid childhood. Early childhood was the Giants. Early childhood with Willie. Yeah. Then you moved on. Well, he moved on, so I had to move on. Next. Give me Mike Schmidt and go. I did like Mike Schmidt. I bet you did. Boa, Dave Cash, the bull, Greg Luzinski. Nice. That was the game that when we had moved to Phoenix and my sister, her husband, and my mother and I drove from Phoenix to San Diego. San Diego saw the game and didn’t go to the beach. No. Got up like left at 4 in the morning on a Sunday. Went to the game because it was a Sunday day game as most of them are. And then right after the game, drove home. I was furious. The Rockies won a series 22 series ago. They won a series. They’re back, baby. No, they’re not. No, they’re not. They just got them. They got They got the Marlins and they eat one out 3-2. They beat the Marlins. Already have their 50 losses. Far and away the worst team, but 11 and 50 now. Look at them go. Winning 18% of the games. That is something special. Boss of skipper Alex Cora lamenting the Red Sox. We’re not getting any better. Red Sox lost to the Angels 4-3. Both those teams under 500. Either one of them getting any better. Write them off and watch somebody else. We have seen turnarounds. You know, it’s early June. There’s a long way to go. Yeah, I’m not following the Red Sox that close. I think the Angels have been a little bit better. I mean, they still got a long way to go, but I think they’ve been better to relative to where they’ve been. Bees lost to the Round Rock Express six to3 coming off a week where they lost six in a row. Take another L here. They’ll try again tonight. Ballpark America First Square. Game two in this series. First pitch set for 705 in the zone will be on the air. Tony Park 650 # college football. If I know my Patrick Kennahan, he is completely bored with all stories about the house settlement. You bored with all the stories about the house settlement? House settlement. Good. Another extension pushed back. I hate the house. Was going to be June 6 deadline. Now it’s June 27. The expectation was the new terms of the settlement would go into effect July 1st, but that’s likely to be delayed as well. Everybody, all the ads sitting waiting around, all the coaches, how much money are we going to have? What are the rules going to be? What do we have to do? Nobody knows. Stinking house settlement. Yeah, frustrating. But what are you going to do? Bill Bichc has passed his uh the deal for his buyout to lower from uh 10 million to $1 million. Where would he go now? Now that his buyout’s down at 1 million. I He’s still going to do a year at North Carolina, isn’t he? After that, all bets are off. But uh I think he’s going to Paradise, if you get my drift. Hey, Tyron set his son up for the next job. What’s her name? I haven’t heard her. She hadn’t been in the news in a while. Jordan Hudson. She has not been in the headlines. What is she doing, man? Get going. Get your name out there some more. Promote, promote, promote. DJPK [Music] #NHL Stanley Cup finals start tonight. The rematch, the Panthers, the Oilers. Game one in Edmonton. Puck drop set for 6:00 on TNT. who will get it done. You know, you hear the phrase home ice. How come you don’t hear the phrase visiting ice? Same side of a different different coin. Yeah. Well, they went uh about as exciting as you could have a year ago. Overtime in game seven, threeame win streaks both, and then in double OT. I don’t know you can get much better than Matt if you’re looking for publicity towards your league. We’ll see what they can do. My guess is it wouldn’t be that because the odds of that happening seem overwhelming. You can go to triple overtime in game seven. Wow, that would be something. But we’ll see. I’m going to go with Edmonton. Yeah, take Edmonton and Edmonton’s power play. Florida with twice as many uh minutes penalty minutes over the course of this postseason as Edmonton. Far more likely to give you the man advantage. All that firepower, will that make a difference? Yeah, fire on ice. DJPK, that’s what’s trending. It’s brought to you by Shamrock Plumbing. There’s no job too big or too small. Get the personal touch with Shamrock Plumbing. Brian Guilt is going to join us at 8:00. SiriusXM NBA radio host, NBA TV contributor. His thoughts on Austin A making the move from Boston to Utah. What impact is that going to have? We’ll talk with Brian Gueltzer and Justin Spears, Arizona Wildcats beat Rider for the Arizona Daily Star. Our spring football tour continues at 9:00. Also, it’s a win tickets Wednesday. We’re giving away a fourack of tickets to Aerof Fest in the 8:00 hour. So, look forward to that one. Coming up next, the question of the day. Stay with us. [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, may I present This is JJ and Alex. Austin announced as the president of basketball operations for the Utah Jazz. They’ve got a lot of work. Obviously, there’s not just a lot of work to be done. There’s a lot of years to have to figure some things out. This is not a business like position. This is a personnel position within the within the organization. And that is to say, hey, look, we have got to get the right personnel in the building. We’ve got to figure this thing out. We’ve got to find exactly where it is that we want to put ourselves. This is a big loss for the Celtics. He played a big role in helping assemble the roster that they currently have. Brad Stevens runs the day-to-day operations of the Boston Celtics. And it says a lot that Brad could have sent Danny’s son packing a long time ago if he didn’t have value. Instead, he made him the assistant general manager. He helped build that roster that won an NBA championship last year. He has earned the place where he’s at in the NBA today. Catch JJ and Alex afternoons from 3 to 6, presented by G2G bars on 975, the KSL Sports Zone. Oh, I’ll come back. And your customers will come back. They will flock to your business if you do this one thing. I want to be your endorser. PK. Yes. Yeah. All you got to do is text PK to 575000 and the sales staff will be in touch and we you and me can have pretty much the rest of our lives a professional business relationship that will blow your mind. You understand what I’m saying? Of course you do because I’m saying it. So you text PK to 57500. You got a business you want to advertise and away we go. Question of the morning. Austin H says the Jazz most likely will keep this month’s draft picks. What were you hoping for? Eric, it’d be a miracle if they could trade their five for anything meaningful. Nobody like Giannis or KD wants to play in Utah for a team with no direction. They have to hope to get lucky with number five. Lots of great players drafted a five or later. They got to get lucky. Yeah, I don’t think they get lucky, though. I I disagree on the luck category. I think a lot of work goes into it. You have to reduce luck as much as possible through preparation. And I think that’s extremely important because if it’s luck, then I can do it. You can do it. You’re not just rolling the dice, right? You got to go to that gym in the middle of nowhere in Europe and find that player. or figure out or figure out sitting at the combine that this player while talented doesn’t have the drive to get a lot better and all these 19 and 20 year olds they got to get a lot better. Yeah. I I think that high in the draft it’s not some discovering. Yeah. To some gym in Siberia. I think that’s that’s how you find your later pick. Yeah. And guys that can develop, you know, that’s the thing that you go with Jokic. Well, he was a second round pick. So I think at the fifth spot, this person, this young man is well known throughout basketball circles. And Austin has researched that of infinite amount of times. And then, you know, you don’t really know until you’re on the clock because you can’t guarantee what Charlotte’s going to do. Now, I’m looking at one right now. I mean, it’s fun. I think we all do this. We look at these mock drafts just for the heck of it and we’ve seen them a hundred times now, but we still if if 101 comes out, we look at it, right? And what are they saying? And especially now with you and us and Yak because it’s our business and so we want to be and ourselves as prepared as possible to be able to discuss what we’ve seen and whatnot. So clutch points, I just literally just five minutes ago. Obviously I know what we’re talking about. So, Clutch Points comes up with a draft mock a mock draft, right? And so, they’ve got obviously they’ve got Flag and they’ve got Harper that seems to be virtually I mean maybe not maybe just remove the word virtual that that everyone you look at has flag one um Harper 2, right? So, I look at this one saying, “All right, well, what do we see?” Well, they got flag one and Harper two. They got Bailey two. That’s where I’m going with this. Oh, I had seen I’d seen those but not really since I don’t know. That’s why I bring up early to mid-conference season was last time I saw because if it was standard then you would bring it up. Okay, so flag one everyone’s got that. That’s a that that’s unanimous and uh so you look at this and here’s one clutch points for whatever it’s worth and the writer says almost everyone has Dylan Harper above Ace Bailey. I am fine being the outlier here as I am sold on Bailey’s upside to become a star and his long per long per long-term potential as a beast on both ends of the court. Well, if you can get a beast, you better do it. Yes. And then he’s got Harper three and then also too, this is a surprise. Maluch the big and I saw Duke play 50 times obviously everybody’s watching flag so you see all these other Duke guys. Yeah. So he he’s there at four and I don’t see that man. That would surprise me. I don’t see that. He’s been more 678 guy. Yeah. I you don’t even think he’s that big. I’m not sure. I wasn’t impressed. But, uh, you’re you’re not drafting for 25 26, you’re drafting for 28 29. And then he’s got Edgecom at five. So, uh, this one Yeah. I mean, he’s got Trey Johnson at seven and, uh, let’s see what’s come five. Five. Yeah. So, he’s available. That would excite a lot of Jazz fans. I think a lot of Jazz fans are very interested in him. I’m not sure he’s going to be on the board. Um, I called up another mock draft over here and they have Edgecomb going number three to the Sixers. They have the standard one, too. They have Harper, too. And then the draft starts at three. Yeah. Well, bang. Edgecomb’s gone. The draft’s over for him. Court, this is Associated Press. Never trust AP. Never trust AP. No. Ace Bailey dropping to four. And they have the Jazz taking Trey Johnson at five. And I think the two names most Jazz fans are rallying around for whatever that is worth are VJ Edgecomb and Trey Johnson. I like Johnson a slight better. Yeah. Not that that means anything, but I just do. Phillip, take Trey or VJ and tank on. There’ll be no tanking. Phillip tank. They may be losing, but they’ll not be tanking. Hey kids, rock and roll tank on. So, uh, that it has a lot of intrigue there at number five because there’s there’s all sorts of directions on which double A can go. And so the stuff that that I was talking about last week and trying to get some information from jazz people is they were real high on Jeremiah fears, but I don’t know if that information was based on what Austin is thinking because he’s new man now. Maybe maybe everything you were told a week or two ago is old news now. Or they knew this was coming. And they know double A likes fears. I don’t know. I don’t know. The question with him is the three-point shooting. Everybody’s fixated on that because he didn’t shoot. He didn’t didn’t even shoot 30% from three. But if you think that can improve, then have at it. I I you know, I’ve heard they really they’re high on fear. I’m thinking what why would I go with Jagor then? He’s he’s five, six inches taller. The the shooting percentage is virtually the same. Uh he scored more points and all that because my guess is speaking of fears, he had far more FGAs than uh Jaor did. And you know, he’s an American. He didn’t have to make the adjustments. I think we underestimate Jaor’s all the adjustments that he had to make. I mean, going around the world and knowing one person, Travis Hansen. Yeah, I can relate to that. Uh I moved to Arizona from New Jersey and knew one person, my sister. That was it. My parents didn’t even come. They came later. Uh she they sent me to live with her because she’s much older than I am and because they wanted me to start school at the start of the school year rather than, you know, sophomore year or in the middle or what have you. Uh, so I I think not not to say that he should be drafted five, but I think he’s his best ball is way down the line and he’s going to be much better than we saw in his one season at BYU. But as far as what the Jazz got. Yeah, I see. Back to that that comment. Take who does take Trey? Trey or VJ and tank on for But they will they will tank on but just not on purpose. They won’t tank. They will lose. Well, it’ll be the same. The result is the same. The result may be the same, but the process battling to the end will be different. Yeah. There’ll be uh opportunity to win games trying to win and playing their best players and and and so what if you win 10 more? And San Antonio won 10 more. Probably won more than that and they still got ahead of you. So, you tried it. You gave it your best effort to suck and you literally did. You never have been worse in terms of win. First 60 loss team in Jazz history, right? So you literally did your best to be your worst worst record ever and it didn’t pan out. Nope. So now what’s the point? There is no point. We learned our lesson. And then you move on from that and now you have these young fellows and you run with them. And yeah, so you will they may not even get I would think they would get to at least 20 wins, but I can’t guarantee that at all. Let’s see what the roster is before we Well, I think I they even with the young guys ought to get to 20. They’re not going to trade that many vets and the young guys ought to be better. Yeah, but they could be injuries. Sure. So, if there’s injuries, uh, who knows how that’s going to play out. Uh, but get yourself get yourself a bonafide player, man, that that everyone from Austin to his father to the owner to Jay-Z to all the other scouts, all those folks that are there doing all the heavy lifting that they do that everybody feels great about and bring him in. And yeah, I’m not expecting him to just take the world by storm, but who’s to say that he couldn’t be on the all rookie team? I would assume Flag would be rookie of the year. Seems like a safe bet, right? But when they do the odds for the rookie of the year, you know, his odds are going to be way better than everybody else’s, of course. And wherever he goes, he’s going to get immediate playing time and and get shots and get all the stuff as if he’s a four or five year veteran. Uh so he’s got that. But shoot for somebody who’s on the old rookie team. That would be a a nice level of accomplishment. And yeah, so I’m excited about the opportunity that they have. What is it? Uh three weeks from tomorrow to uh get going here and and get somebody. Austin said yesterday when he came on that a high probability that we keep these picks and we we focus on five and then when five’s done we’ll focus on 21 or you know he didn’t say uh that they keep the picks but he didn’t say that they wouldn’t maybe trade up. He said everything was open. Yeah. But the most likely thing is that they draft to five and 21. But I I think you can have it’s easier to move up from 21 than it is five. Yes. Because you only got four spots to go. So simply math would tell you you got more spots. And it looks like two of them aren’t budging no matter what. So really only one or two. Yeah. Yeah. One one and two aren’t. I mean one or two spots, right? Yeah. The one and two picks aren’t moving. So at five, you can really only trade up to three or four, right? And then at 21, well, we’ll see who they like. Seem like you can you have more maneuverability there. And there’s players out there at 21. We’ll we’ll see about that when that comes about. Uh but yeah, I think they have an opportunity to get a bonafide rotational player. To what level, you know, remains to be seen. Uh but there’s some good some good players there. I think Trey Johnson can be a player. I like him more over Edgecom. fully acknowledging that I’m not draft expert here, but you know, I watch these guys play, right? But you might change your opinion if you got to sit there and talk to guys. You’re the king of that. And these teams value, they value that in every pro sports league. It’s in there finding out the maturity level, finding out the drive, the level of preparation they bring to those meetings. That matters a lot to No question. Yeah, they don’t. And we don’t figure out Yeah. We don’t get to do that. And I think that’s key when you’re trying to project. Okay, yeah, we can look at film and decide who’s better now, but we know all these guys have to improve. So, who’s going to be better in three years and five years and 10 years? I still think it’s going to be Trey Johnson. That’s the guy. You’re feeling it. Yeah. Right. Compared to Edgecom, I just I think he’s a They’re about the same size, so that there’s no big distinction there. Uh but maybe they go maybe they go with fears. Maybe they think hey this is a kid that can you know he’s better than Collier and uh he’s going to develop uh blah blah blah remains to be seen uh what what they think there and if they take him then then we’ll see you know away we go on that uh as far as that goes. This clutch uh clutch points has uh Jagger at 11 for those who are interested in that. And it starts off it says Jagor Deon has done wonders for his draft stock over the last month and now solidly finds himself as a lottery projected prospect which I believe that would happen. I felt that once he got free and was trying to can just play in these workouts that they have rather than trying to fit in and see what Kevin Young wants and all this stuff uh that they would play to his style and his ability to cut loose. Yeah. Plus that adjustment thing you’re talking about which is absolutely real. With every passing month you can be more comfortable, right? Language skills get better. Yeah. blah blah blah, right? And so I felt you just adapt. I felt his best ball was so far out ahead of him. I I think he showed 40% of what he could do in college because everything was so new. I think he would be much better if he could come back next year, but obviously go go chase it. If the pros are going to take you in the top 15, you know, you probably ought to go. The agent has him somewhere working with people and they’re already working on the three. Oh, yeah. Obvious. It’s obvious what he needs to work on and and what his strengths are. And as long as he stays 69 and can pass it like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t think he’ll shrink. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. And he can. And that that’ll get better because they didn’t they played one season but really they only played about a half a season because the first half was so disjointed. Who’s on first? The guys are coming in and out of the lineup left and right. They couldn’t figure out and not not not this isn’t a knock but it not that they couldn’t figure it out. It just took a lot of time to figure out and I don’t think that NBA people pay that much attention to that portion of the season. But we there’s a lot of blowouts in there, right? There’s a lot of blowouts in there, a lot of overmatch and plus he was injured for most of December. There was that. Yeah. So, you factor all those things in there and I think under all those circumstances, he did okay. and now that’s over and now he can be loose and just go do his thing and then when he gets drafted he’ll have to fit into a team concept. But as far as these workouts and all this stuff that they’re doing, who wouldn’t, right? I remember Dave Roast telling me a kid showed up in his office at Dixie College when he was a junior college coach and he says uh so he’s got his head down and he says kid walks in the office says coach and he looks up and so naturally he sees his feet and he looks up he looks up looks up he looks up he looks up it’s Keon Clark who played in the NBA played here right and so so by the time he got to the top of uh Keon’s head his eyes were as big his basketball is practically. Yes, young man. What can I do for you? And he wanted to come and Tark had the UNLV had the thing there where they would uh send guys over and all that blah blah blah. And so, uh, that that I think that’s the way you would look at, uh, Jaor. You cannot deny his height when he walks in. And he can get so much stronger and all. So, he’s a he’s a player. I wonder if the if the Jazz had an opportunity to trade up. It seems like he’s worked himself beyond the late first round, the 20s, that he’s going to go much closer to 10 than he is to 20. We’re also getting into the time of year where they start to have interactions, you know, interviews, maybe the combine, there was some time for people to get to know him. And we’ve always said that, well, he’s going to help us draft stock when he gets to that. Some people just have that charisma, whatever they come across and and that stuff matters and that can bump you up. And I think Edgecomb and Trey Johnson will do that too because these guys have known for at least three years that the NBA was a likely destination. And so they had to play the game and go to college. it’s required of them, right? So, they did it. And especially now with the NIL, there’s no need to go overseas or go to these other places where you can make money because you can make money right here uh in, you know, Texas and Baylor. They both got money. And he they uh what’s his face? Or they asked him last year, “Wow, looked like you had your best recruiting class.” He’s a football coach at Baylor. You had your had a real good recruiting class. Yeah, we’re paying them now. It’s exactly what he said. Remember that? So implied in there is I want to get these guys all along. We weren’t paying him and other people were. Yeah. So, we’re giving them money so these guys can stay in college for that year. At least now I think that I think they’ll they ought to do with it away with it. And if you want to go out of high school, you can go. But at least now they’re being compensated to where they’re not missing out on a year’s worth of earnings. And then you can argue they can get more in that one year than they would have gotten in the NBA salary wise. But I think both those guys will show well in all the interviews too. Is everybody cooled on uh Casper’s uh Jackonus? It appears to that level. Yes. And I did too. I was really enthralled with him early in the season. Uh I not to say that I think he’s going to stink, but I cooled on him a little bit myself. Yep. As I watched and made it a point because it’s the winter. I got nothing else to do. This is work. And to watch um Illinois as much as possible. Uh but I do think he’s he’s a he can be a player in this league, man. But his shooting was not nearly good enough. Uh 20% I think it was from three. Now, his field goal percentage was much better. I think he was over 50. He was in love with off the dribble threes, and he was not good at shooting off the dribble, and that really drove down his three-point percentage. But it’s But he took him. Yeah. The way I was watching him, it’s like he was playing to show NBA people. It wasn’t necessarily within the framework of Illinois trying to win games. It was this is what I have to work on because he’s a strong, rugged kid, you know, he’s already got an NBA body. Yes. And Cody Williams will have to work a couple years to get that well built. Yeah. Yeah. And uh he is is a player that, you know, he came here to go coach be coached by Underwood over there at Illinois because he’s an excellent coach. She’s highly regarded in coaching circles from what I understand in my conversations with people who know way more about it than I do. And so I think that was a conscious decision in the way that Jagor was with Kevin Young and in the way it appears that some of these other guys that the Cougars are getting uh Debonsa and these guys that okay, he can prepare me during this short time we’re going to be together to get going for my professional career. And I think that’s the same thing with Underwood over there in Illinois. And so, uh, I still think he can be a player. Uh, it’s so hard to to to just slap like longstanding reps on these youngsters and you don’t know how, excuse me, you don’t know how they’re getting coached. And I wondered that watching Illinois games because he was physically developed and at the times when he did attack the hoop, I thought, why are you taking off the dribble threes? You can you can beat these guys. You can get into the pain and beat these guys. And now maybe but they’re college kids. I know. So I know. And and so but it’s like you said about Igor if you if you put him in these scrimmages they do whether it’s two on two, three on three, whatever. I think they very rarely go five on five this time of year if at all. But you know does he attack the hoop more? Can he be coached to do that? And maybe he won’t have that advantage in the NBA as Lock loves to point out. you know, top 200 players in the world. Everybody’s a lot bigger and a lot better. But watching those games, they just kept thinking, “Put your imprint on the game. Let’s go.” And off to dribble three, Clank. But he just turned 19 last week. I hear you. I hear you. Last week full season as 18. But I I think all these things are why he’s not going to go top five, but all the points you talk about is why he’s still going to go in the next five. Yeah. And Hallebertton and SGA didn’t go at that point. They didn’t go in the top 10. They didn’t go in the top 10, right? And here they are with their team in the finals. So, one’s a superstar already and the other’s on the way. DJ PK, it’s 975 the zone. Brian Guilter, NBA radio host. Coming up at the top of the hour. We’ll talk with him about Austin A, the move to Utah. What does it mean for the Jazz? Stay with us. This is Jake Scott and Ben Anderson. Tyrese Hallebertton absolutely is having a coming out party for sure. But is he a traditional great player on a great team? I don’t think so. And I love Halburn. And I wonder if that’s just where the NBA is headed and we’re going to have few of these true superstars, which I think you take on that label because you win a lot over a sustained period of time. And I just wonder if it’s not going to be sustained period of winning for anybody because it’s basically impossible. Like the Nuggets are finished. The Pacers are not going to be in the finals next year because they’re gonna lose Miles Turner or they’re gonna pay him a zillion dollars. Yeah. And can’t pay anybody else. Probably. Yes. You know, we talk about windows and things like that. This is the window for the Pacers randomly. This is it. I said this is going to be the playoff run that Donovan Mitchell laments for the rest of his career because the window is open and these other teams are letting it get away. Hear Jake Scott and Ben Anderson every day from 10 to noon on 975 KSL Sports Zone. Artist of the day, obviously Bruce Springsteen. Born in the USA, the album debuted on this day in 1984. And it’s brought to you by Live Nation. For all the live concerts and events in 2025, check out liveation.com. Yeah. Then it was on at that point. Although he had been on the cover in time and Newsweek in the 70s. Yeah. That was more like the peak of his career right there. the peak of popularity. Then Yeah. Then it was it just exploded to that’s that’s when he moved from arenas to stadiums, right? Yeah. Just incredible uh heights at that point. There was no turning back. Got more people weighing in on the Utah Jazz. Austin H isn’t going to keep this month’s draft picks. What were you hoping for, Chris? Truly a miracle or just almost anything right now? Chris just wants some hope. I gotta admit, I was hoping for a little bit of an a faster pace that they would uh make a make a blockbuster. But how many how many blockbusters actually happen? And how many blockbusters actually work? I was about to say it depends on your definition of if they happen or not. I mean, was Durant moving to Phoenix a blockbuster move in your mind? Yes. Okay. So, did it work? No. No. How many times has Harden moved and how many times like this going to be a big deal? They were big deals, but his success was in Houston. He’s never really recreated that. I mean, they had the second best team in basketball. They couldn’t beat the Warriors. Yeah, I got it. I’m with you. I hear you. Uh, yeah. So, it’s more of a fantasy to to see that there’s a blockbuster deal out there. Uh, it just it doesn’t happen as much. What what what is funny is that you look at Hallebertton and SGA, both of those youngsters have already been traded and it wasn’t thought of to be wow man, but here we are. It’s wow man, you know, so you don’t you get if you get the best player, you win the deal. But usually, but you don’t know who’s the best player. Yeah. Historically, it’s been the star has been the best player. And now we couple got a couple recent examples where getting a young guy and again back to they’re 19 years old. I mean, they win 11 and 12. People know these guys are good, but they don’t know they’re going to be that good. You would take Paul George I think is a very good player, but I would take and they’re both in their prime. So, put them both at 28. You know, we in in a alternate world. I would take SGA. I can see why. I think most people can see why now. The trick is to see why. Yeah. Then, three years ago and OKC and Prey, the GM there, he did. Way to go. You made the move, man. You got it right. How do you hit on that when nobody else sees it? And how much of that is luck and how much of that is good fortune? Not luck necessarily, but good fortune. And how much of that is, you knew it. I mean, the Jazz hit on Stockton Malone. That’s why they had their glory years. They hit on them in the middle of the first round. And the Bucks were in basically the same territory in the draft when they hit on Giannis. You know, half the league passed and there’s some other teams that probably could have traded up and didn’t. And you got them. So, good for you. You You get to go on the uh you get to go on the ride. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. You deserve all the credit because you’ll take all the heat and all the crap if it doesn’t work. All right. DJ and PK coming up next. Brian Gelzyler with Springsteen. The music. That lined up pretty well for you right there, Yak. This is good when the plan comes together. Geler’s next. Stay with us.

Hour two of DJ & PK for June 4, 2025:

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• Hot Takes or Toast

• What do you want the Utah Jazz to do?