Who Gets the Blame for OKC Thunder Losing Game One? | THE ODD COUPLE
all right well let’s talk about game one yeah game one man what again what ended up being an exciting game you and I were sitting here a little like this couldn’t probably should be more of a blowout but it wasn’t no we we turn that first half you got to be up by They only down by what 12 and they had 20 turnovers you got to win by more than that or be up at least uh Mark Dagenol who is the coach of the Thunder um switched the lineup you and I on the air right before the game rob G goes “Oh lineup change.” We’re like “Wait what what are they doing?” And so the conversation becomes who is the blame and is he to blame simply when you look at this loss for the Thunder for me he is a part of this blame but I first have to go to the players and I’mma tell you why you just said it if I told you you have 20 turnovers in the first half you better be up by 20 minimally minimally if I told you that you averaged 20some points about 21 22 points a game off points off turnover throughout the season and you had 11 with 25 turnovers throughout the whole game that is terrible what that does number one you continue to make them feel like they can’t compete cuz it looked bad we’re sitting here me you Rob G Monty I kept going turnover and we start talking about new subject i go turn over cuz they kept happening yeah but they weren’t capitalizing so that’s to me the the singular thing I’m going to first point out is there’s no way you cannot have points off that cuz what it does Rob is those are back breakers if I’m picking your pocket come down hit a transition three crowd’s going crazy that rim starts getting bigger for you and it’s a five point turnaround if you were going to score the other becomes five points and my my point here it kept them hanging around you didn’t do what Bane did to Batman Rob G cuz I know you didn’t see Rob he broke Batman’s back how you know i didn’t see that movie which one was it i don’t know okay so he broke his back batman always get beat up a little bit nobody ever picked him up in the air and broke his back i watched Batman with Adam no not Adam West pow pam not that one okay no this was Burn and he broke his back and my point is the Thunder with 20 turnovers in the first half you’re supposed to break their back rob G didn’t see that movie either he was too busy with the kids he just He saw that one did you see Batman he saw that one yeah look see how he looked at you too offended that you would ask what so my point is that’s number one now if it’s going out of 100% I’m going to take 70% there and I’m going to take 30 to the coach first of all you switched the lineup but all right if that’s what you chose to do for whatever reason but it is weird i’m still thinking you leave yourself open because normally when you’ve had as much success as the Thunder why are you changing what you do you know we’re going to do what we do and force them to to to change not the other way around it’s just it is backwards avery Johnson did it with the number one seed with Dallas the Mavericks against the Warriors origins the We believe Warriors and they won they won the series yeah and I I look at too it’s okay if you chose to make that decision you still have to be nimble enough to say “All right we’re gonna switch some things up.” And Hardenstein I’m not acting like he’s you know Rasheed Wallace or something but he had nine and N in 17 minutes so I’m going to give him a few more minutes if simply for just the size is simply for us to take advantage of some things in the inside if simply to have some guys who can block shots and lastly Robin and I I I’ll just give the time to you on this they did not defend the three ball well which is what the Pacers do better than anyone right now in that second half that was a that was a big big loss to me uh in the second half they let them get off what was it 66 points in the second half and a lot of that was three balls and to me the number is minus 21 in you can’t be minus 21 in the three balls so those are the three factors for me majority goes to simply points off turnovers if I have 20 turnovers from you I’m up 20 especially the way they were playing and but they weren’t scoring and capitalizing so it ends up being a mute point okay i gave you the ball back you didn’t do nothing with it right no I I get it it’s again I mean you could look at it and obviously Hallebert makes a big shot if he misses the shot and they survive you win and you just go forward and you got Exactly but it was a wasted opportunity you can’t lead the game the entire way and give it up and the three-point shooting you talked about even the even the lineup change is questionable where you make people go right before the game or maybe an announcement would maybe they didn’t you know what I mean yeah but still like like what’s going on here why are we changing what what’s been done all year and I think that that is uh huge but also and and and you just wonder like and I’m just thinking out loud mhm in late in the game I’m I’m not going to let Hallebertton get the ball like like that he’s the He that’s the only thing Rob they that was the advantage they didn’t Rick Carlo not calling timeout the ball we’re all in scramble mode but But you get my point is even in a game that’s that closed that situation I I got to cheat you know what I mean i I know you don’t want to leave anybody open anybody but him anybody but him and I just wonder and I and I get it it wasn’t like you could set it or whatever i was there with Michael Jordan against the Cavs and and I when they got the inbounds there’s no time to pass it to anybody i was just like dude I’m sorry i would have to two guys like on top of him and they got to pass the ball in to somebody who’s wide open cuz I Michael is the only one I’m worried about making it was a great defensive play he just said “No I’m going to hang him.” Craig Elo didn’t give him space he was on top of him without touching him he just hung in the air longer like “Oh you’re back down on Earth.” Okay watch this okay and he still made it so so I look at that and I and I wonder about it but again the game was lost because of not capitalizing i can’t remember what the exact number was um but they didn’t take advantage it just was 25 turnovers they only got 11 points that’s embarrassing that’s the number that’s the number that’s embar like truly embarrassing 11 points like that that’s That’s nothing on 25 turnovers 25 turnovers and that’s the game if you score on five more then that’s potentially 10 points at minimum could be more and that should be regular they average around 22 a game off turnover you got 11 on 25 26 that’s that to me was it la another point from the is coming from the Fox Sports radio guys chad Hongren you take him out and I understand they’re playing threes and he might have I mean you know their bigs are play shooting threes they’re hanging out on the arc and maybe he lost a little bit of what he does well you know blocking shot changing shots but he’s also a scorer he can shoot he can hit threes he can pump fake get to the right so I think he might have overthought himself uh Mark Dageno and I also think this is the this is a disadvantage to blowing everybody out all the time where you’re not comfortable you said the cardiac cats with the Pacers last year they get I mean this postseason they’re getting used to these kind of games right and they know they’re never out of games no matter what no matter what’s going on they’re never out of games and they play for these moments like like they just make buckle down they make shots they’re not afraid and and that’s what makes them so so tough and they got the cut most clutch player of all time believe it or not crazy the heck how you change your name and and you were overrated two months ago most overrated now you’re clutchest guy of all time most clutch player what the heck bob G i’m making up words yeah i got a question for y’all because I I agree i think the turnovers obviously when you get that many turnovers you got 11 points is nothing you got to do something with it um but you started the conversation we started yesterday’s conversation about Dagenol changing starting lineup and tweaking something that had worked for them all season this might seem counterintuitive but could you make an argument after what we saw yesterday with the the lineup change and even the closing lineup where they bench both of their big men are is OKC almost too deep where it’s like we don’t know who our five is to either open a game or close a game we don’t have a set group where we know no matter what’s going on we are closing or opening with these guys and we’ll figure out the rest in the middle i understand what you’re saying and that could be a problem in that you normally know on a team and they do have so many players that they can count on but normally you do know who’s going to be out there here’s it we’re closing with this right because because that was a comp coming into last season’s playoffs where it’s like hey yeah you guys having a really good year maybe turn two or three of these bench dudes into one marquee starter or something like that that you can kind like you know hey when when it comes down to the last three minutes we’re going to go with SGA JDub Chad Homegrren player I’ll give you an example what you’re saying Rob G the death lineup with the Warriors that they had they knew exactly who you’re about to get this small ball version if everybody can shoot past dribble and we’re gonna make the right play this style and this is what we’re going to do for the last five minutes and that death lineup was killing people and and on the flip side last night OKC C pulls both of their big men which they only played 40 minutes combined anyways but then they give up a couple of offensive rebounds leads to them end up losing the game right and rebounded what was it they got out rebounded by 17 17 yep right wasn’t that the number that I mean that and then you got you’re not using your big guys hearstein come yeah it it it was uh just a it bunch of things that I know they’re sitting there like how the heck did we You might have to look at it and be honest and think about the coach to be honest on on some of these things more so than like Shay having a terrible game that wasn’t the case or somebody he might have the most quiet 38 we ain’t even talking about 38 from him or somebody somebody making a uh who was the player on the Bucks where the ball went through his legs you remember um Trent Trent Jr remember he had a he had a great game too he made all these shots three and a ball comes to him and it goes it goes Gary Trent Jr buckner that was off the line i can’t believe you would do it like that man that ball went right through his legs side
THE ODD COUPLE: Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington debate who’s to blame for the Oklahoma City Thunder’s Game 1 collapse against the Indiana Pacers
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21 Comments
Lmao @ the Batman references. Rob totally out The loop
All the players get the blame. You're up that much, and you think going for 3-pointers is the best choice? Then missing ALL those 3-pointers? Come on, I understand you want to make a statement, all you need is points, not 3's. They got greedy and missed all those shots, and the Pacers, being resilient, will continue to get points. So they shot themselves in the foot with this loss.
OKC would have won if Indiana hadn’t scored more points.
This video is the problem with pro sports: guys always looking to blame someone. The officials not calling fouls, the coaches making bad substitutions, the star not going off for 40 points…
Chet only played 32 games all year. Harkenstein only played 57, Wallace STARTED 43 games this season. The two games they beat the Pacers in the regular season Chet didn’t play and Harkenstein played under 15 minutes in the most recent game they won by 20. The double bigs actually hasn’t been the reason they won 68 games this season. They struggled a little incorporating Chet back into the lineup with Harkenstein. Now you figured you needed them for Jokic and Minnesota, but we see Caruso ended being the biggest impact. It will be interesting to see how he dibbles and dabbles with the line up. Isiah Joe and Wiggins were a big part of the 68 wins but they have barely played this post season.
We all get the blame cause we all under estimate the opponent
If you really watched the game, OkC didn't play that well. Indiana made some nervous mistakes in the first half, but still played great defense against OkC. You can't blame the coach. Indiana outplayed/outlasted OkC.
Coach messed with the lineups
SGA IS THE BLAME HE STARTED FEELING HIMSELF AND GOD DON'T LIKE UGLY PACERS IN" 6"
If you're OKC you make the Pacers adjust to your style of play you don't adjust to the Pacers style of play
Pacers walked them down. They’re to blame.
The pacers are the nlame they lose. I like the Pacers.
It's "moot" point, not mute 4:08
Taliban Haliban aka Tyrese Haliburton
They lost on a last minute shot! Lol mfers just be talking to talk
The refs get the blame he didn’t get enough free throws😂they can’t win if he doesn’t get 14,15 free throws.
Lot of the turn overs were dead ball turn overs not a lot of run out opportunities
Okc will lose
Chet was 2-9 and JDub 6-19 yet OKC still clearly should have won this game because they had complete control up until less than 3 minutes left. OKC has blown out so many teams that I honestly think their late game management and execution isn't that great. That's what happens when your average margin of victory for the year is 13 points which is an all time high. It's irrelevant though. OKC will go on to win this series pretty easily and become a dynasty.
LEBRON JAMES GETS THE BLAME "ROB PARKER"
OKC coach allowing his players shooting ill advised 3 pts in the last 2 minutes of the game leading by 8 pts
So stupid😮