Did The Knicks Plan For Jason Kidd For HC Hit A Roadblock? | KFTV Live
come on come on come on ah there we go let’s go all right first time the charm all [Music] right all right here we go salute to Nick Nation on this Monday afternoon another edition of Nicks Fan TV live bleacher Report simalcast tp the franchise in the building special guest he’s my guy representing the New York Post podcast in particular New York game our friend Dexter Henry is in the building on today’s show what is going on with the Knicks pursuit of Jason Kid do they want him do they not want him is Dallas going to answer we got to talk about it man call us up in the KFTV Discord we want to hear from you guys with with your thoughts on Kid Nick’s off season whatever you want it to be it is your show salute to our franchise channel members salute to the replay gang and remember that these shows are available in audio podcast format let’s get into it all right Dex how you feeling man feeling good man just uh I don’t I don’t want to say anxious but just kind of like man we need this coaching thing to like get done so we can know some other things i’m sure you feel this way in terms of content it’s just kind of waiting for this this shoe to drop and and seeing but I you know I I’m very intrigued though CP like how deliberate they’re going to be with this um you know I think there were some reports I don’t know if it was Begley or Bondi my colleague who said you know might not happen till July um they may go through the draft uh you know before that and start a free agency so that’s interesting to me uh but we’ll see well that would be interesting like if they don’t get this done by the draft like who are you going to draft you just going to draft a guy and not have the coach who you want to work with and and you know is is a prospect going to be happy about that to be coming into a situation that is kind of in flux so that’s a little bit interesting um but on the kid front the the reports are right now that uh that the Knicks intend to ask permission and then that Dallas intends to decline but there’s no concrete on either side so what do you what do you make of that man all right so I always tell people you got to watch how things are reported when they’re reported and who is coming from right not saying that any of the stuff isn’t true not my point but I think that the Knicks would want to make it known that they have interest in Jason Kid right CP and I also think that the Mavericks are going to want to play a little bit of hard ball because as the fans know watching this they’re going to need a little bit of compensation now what I do find interesting is and I’m curious what you think about this EP if you’re the Knicks and your cupboard’s already bare after the Muel Bridges trade right do you want to then give compensation to get a coach when there’s still talk out there about you possibly making other moves here to still improve this roster and you have very limited assets to do so so do you want to give this up on a on a coach uh I’m not so sure about that now maybe it’ll be a couple second round picks the Knicks have eight of them um maybe it’ll be the Washington first round pick but that seems like something you’d want to hold on to so I don’t know i I I think there is probably interest from the Knicks uh obviously gonna get the people that link this to Giannis uh but I think maybe the more direct link you should be looking at is that J uh Jaylen Brunson played under Jason Kid um and you know maybe Jaylen Brunson said “Okay if you don’t give tips this is a guy I would want.” I don’t know any of that for sure kid as a coach I am I’m lukewarm on it like I wouldn’t be mad if they did it i’m not also I don’t think I’d be jumping for joy the other way like oh this is like a no-brainer i think Kit is a fine coach the thing I do think is I think he could handle New York that’s the one thing I think if you’re looking for a guy that’s a little more innovative uh we saw what he did did helping the Mavericks defense two years ago could he be could he could he help this team defensively like look now I don’t they know if he’s going to make Karanty Towns his feet quicker or have him stop making dumb plays on defense i don’t know about that but I I do think he can handle New York this is when I say that I mean if the team is on a three-game losing streak with the expectations they will have next year in December how is he kind of coach that can handle that yeah I think he can yeah as opposed to maybe a first year voice but I don’t know if any I don’t know listen this is what makes it so interesting who moves the needle here i don’t know but how do you how do you feel about Jason Kid because I’m sure you respect him as a player and his mind and everything but how do you feel about him as a coach yeah I mean I think having seen him here as a player watched him as a player in this market having those coaching tendencies taking his team to the NBA finals there’s a lot to like in terms of relatability with the players because he has that respect and I think that is the path that the Knicks are trying to go down here the anti-tips this is why Mike Malone is not under considerations for multiple reasons so I I do understand the path and I like the path i just want to know if it is him is are we ch like how much are we going to change the offense because Dallas was a heavy isolation team now was that because of Luca being there or you know what I mean or does Kade trying to devise something that maximizes ball movement player movement because I think that is the ultimate direction that I want to see this Knicks offense go in i love Jaylen and and you know Derek Harper was just on the show and he made a great point like where would the Knicks be this year without Jaylen having the ball in his hands and being a high usage guard you know so it’s a it’s a it’s a two-headed it’s a two-headed coin in that regard but look I I um I’m all for the change i was indifferent in terms of the firing of Tibs like I wasn’t tight about it and you know I wouldn’t necessarily say I’m I’m thrilled about it but I am excited and enthused about the direction that that Leon is going to take this team in because I trust them so if they do believe in Kid then let’s go with Kid and and see where it goes man that the relationship with Jaylen is a is a plus so I’m with So you and I feel very similar to this because I think the relationship stuff matters i think that sometimes through team building when you we talk I’ve been talking with a lot of fans in the last as you have too in the last week or so um that stuff matters a lot in team building like how guys are not just getting along together in the locker room or how they’re with the coach do they feel like their voices are being heard i think this matters in any job i want to be very clear and I always say this about sports like sports is a job still a place of employment these are guys coming to work so that the people stuff matters to the other point you mentioned that I think is a really good one i think you and I feel the same way i don’t know what the Knicks need to technically need to maximize for next year it’s two ways of looking at do you think they need to get better defensively which I think they can a little bit i think there’s only so much they can get better defensively if they keep the same roster but if they do come back with mostly the same roster I think you need a coach that’s going to maximize the offense as much as possible so it cannot be laborious to score points that’s the one thing the Pacers had an advantage over the Knicks they could get points easily the Knicks play a lot of ISO ball i think I’m right i’m with UCP i think they got to move away from that it’s not sustainable to have heavy Jaylen Brunson iso ball for four rounds to try to win a title i think the Knicks know that i think the Knicks coach knows that that has to happen so I think that’s the thing for me if he’s going to do heavy iso ball like we saw with Luca that might not be a recipe for success for the Knicks i’m with you on that i think the next coach has to be aware of both those things the relationships yeah and improving the offense trying to get it to another level definitely need to improve the offense i think the defense will be improved when they upgrade their personnel both will improve also when they upgrade the personnel um because you know a lot of people want to sit here and in hindsight like man we on a bench the whole time and two things can be true yeah you had you had capable guys on the bench to do a certain job and it still wasn’t good enough so they need to add to their bench personnel and also you know have a coach that that they believe can maximize the talent on this team because it’s definitely there they were two games away from the finals no guarantees for next year but given the fact that you can you can guarantee them pretty much being a top three team next year again you want to see them get past Indiana and get past Cleveland to uh to to to get to to that spot which is the NBA Finals but I do believe that given the you know the the the the thing that where it’s like you know they’re interested and Dallas is expected to decline but you haven’t heard anything yet tells me it’s still hot to me it’s still hot and it’s either a leverage play on the Mav side to get the the draft compensation which I am nervous about i talked to MRI about that on Friday i am leerary about that depending on what it is because we we need it to for for players we need to either draft somebody and need it to trade for somebody so trading for a coach is tough or is it a is it a money play on the kids side but the fact that you haven’t had concrete a concrete request and a concrete um denial I think it’s still in play it it’s still hot man i think it’s still hot too i think it’s also interesting that Kid’s name is kind of surfaced more first and we haven’t heard a short list yet right we haven’t heard a true official short list that hasn’t been leaked we haven’t really even heard the thing that I think the Knicks have an idea of what kind of coach they want like I do believe that and I’ve been hearing that from people but I think also you didn’t hear the oh well we’re going to do an extensive search right you haven’t heard that either which is you know you go through a process and I think that generally happens more when you get bounced earlier in the playoffs but yeah I do think the kid there’s still legs to the kid stuff i think it’s really going to come down to does kid really want to come um how does he feel about everything that’s went on in Dallas recently and will Nico Harrison and company be willing to just either a let him go for nothing which I doubt um and what’s the cost of that now if we’re talking a couple second round picks you know I think the Knicks would do it if it’s a first round if you if it’s dealing one of your pick swaps which I don’t think you can do or the 2020 the 2026 Washington first rounder which is likely to convey the two seconds that’s kind of your last remaining good asset i I don’t know if you can do that even for Jason Kidd and that’s where I might lean to going with someone like a Johnny Bryant uh in terms of this head coaching search yeah good good points there um here was Wendy and his take on it this was on I believe this was Sports Center this might have been earlier today here is Brian Winhorse on the kid situation salute everybody in the chat once again hit the like button hit the share button subscribe to the channel afternoon edition with CP the franchise and Dexter Henry if you guys are on the lunchtime grind right now throw a hashtag grind in the chat we will shout you guys out the the KFTV Discord is also available for you to call in with your takes on this situation offseason draft whatever it is whatever you guys want to talk about call us right now okay here’s Brian Winhorse on the situation let make sure the audio is uh is proper let’s hear what he has to say here here we go yeah the way I would describe this is there’s mutual intrigue on both sides and also I know there’s this whole thing about asking for permission you don’t ask for permission to hire another team’s coach when you ask you’re going to hire them so essentially when the Knicks express interest the ball will be in the Mavericks court and they have three options as I see it one they can just say “No thank you very much jason will see you in the fall look forward to the season look forward to Cooper flag.” They can try to make Jason Kidd have zero interest in the Knicks possibly with the new contract they did just give him an extension last year or they can negotiate a trade and we have seen a handful of trades of coaches over the last 15 to 18 years including Jason Kidd being traded from the Brooklyn Nets to the Milwaukee Bucks for two second round picks 11 years ago so it’s not like Jason Kidd hasn’t been in this situation before yeah so as you said kid did get traded from the Nets to the Bucks we’ve seen Doc Rivers get traded from the Celtics to the Clippers for a first is this Nico saying “Hey I already got fleeced on the Luca thing and they want my head on a chopping block here in Dallas let me slow it down a little bit and see what I could get.” How much do you want this guy Leon let me see what I can get here you know whatever you guys have left we got to look into that what with the Knicks uh bag is but is that Nico say “You know what let me slow it slow it down a little bit and try to get the most out of this thing what do you have to offer me Le?” I think this is a leverage play man yeah it’s a leverage play like you like you know the CP it’s all business it’s all a leverage play right and it’s about to see who’s going to blink first cuz Leon is looking at this and saying like “Bro you just got fleeced.” Like we we might try to fleece you again uh and and listen but that doesn’t mean you have to the the thing about leverage is you want to see who’s a little bit more desperate here are the Knicks desperate for Jason Kid that’s the thing wendy makes a fantastic point you don’t ask for permission unless you’re trying to get the guy he’s 100% right about that and I think him saying that matters a ton and explain to people this how it goes you don’t ask for per somebody unless that’s your top choice that’s a guy you want to go get um yeah I think it really comes down to like how unhappy happy is he makes another good point dallas could try to keep him there by saying “Hey we’ll extend you more we believe in you as our coach for the future we want you to coach Cooper Flag & Company for years to come so we’re gonna invest this money in you we’ll see but if there have been some reports and I think it was um there’s a couple I forgot Tim McMahon I think said said this on the Hoop Collective podcast he said “Hey J Jason K hasn’t been happy about some of the decisions or not being included in some of the decisions in Dallas including the Luca trade um including the Knicks trainer who’s his boy who now is you know over here uh they’ve got a very tight relationship so he might want to come to the Knicks who he thinks has more talent right now ready to go in 2026 uh than the Mavs do so yeah we we’ll see i don’t Yeah I don’t think this is dead by any means CP i don’t think it’s dead at all no I I don’t I don’t think so either man uh Dan from New Jersey dan no mute your mic k y’all hear me yep lad man how you doing man i’m doing well guys i’m doing well uh I just wanted to come and bear my thoughts real quick on uh the coaching uh idea for Kid if you guys don’t mind sure well I’m not really I’ll be honest i’m not really too familiar with Kid’s coaching style from what I’ve heard from like hearsay people that know a lot more than me like Dallas fans or like Milwaukee fans he’s he’s a little bit of a tib mild you know a little bit ISO heavy on the offense you know things like that but he’s got potential because he’s definitely you know he he definitely saw the floor at a higher level when he was a point guard so you always want to take that into account but you know I kind of don’t really want to go with the whole deplete the whole roster get Giannis get kid playing cuz I kind of feel like this team has a really solid foundation with Brunson we have a second offensive engine with Cat we have pretty good role players some of them are considered to be elite role players i think I would rather just go out there and get me a dynamo like who do you want who do you want i mean listen man i’m I’m I’m a Johnny I’m a Johnny Bryan advocate okay i’m Johnny Brian Hive all the way okay okay and listen I know he hasn’t gotten his coaching opportunity but if you want to make that jump I think you got to make you know a really bold move and hiring Johnny Bryant would be the bold move for me all right man rate rate that call in the chat one being trash five being facts uh he wants Johnny B man he he he wants Johnny B i I don’t I don’t think Johnny B is is is crazy i I think what you have to do if you go with a Johnny Bryant is I think you have to make sure he’s got a good associate head coach on that staff somebody that can help him navigate the waters a little bit the the thing about Johnny Bryant that works in the Knicks favor is he’s got he’s this is what I’ve been told he’s got good relationships with people on the team he was obviously within the organization i think there’s value in the fact that he was under Tibs he can see what worked and did not work with some of these players with Tibs and can make some adjustments from that and if you believe that he has got a good innovative mind if you believe he’s got good relationships uh with the players in within the organization you think he’s your guy go for it i think this is what the next the one point the caller just made i think it’s good if whoever you believe your guy is you got to go and rock with it right and you said this too whether it was Jason Kid if you think that’s the guy to lead him you have to stand on it and rock and you know and rock with it and you know we we’ll we’ll we’ll see cp you saw this you’re a Yankees fan you remember back in the day when they fired Buck Shaw Walter in 95 after that loss and then they went to Joe Tory joe Tory being the next guy was not a popular move that was not something a lot of people were like nobody knew who Joe Tori nobody know who Joe Tori was but he didn’t believe in his managerial acumen and the Yankees had the right guy with the right temperament for that team and and he took him to the next level and this is kind of the crossroads moment the Knicks are at and if you have your guy and you believe in him whether it’s proven or unproven you got to go rock with your guy and listen what no matter what people say about Leon Rose the one thing I think you can’t deny is in terms of hiring people around him in the front office and that and the support staff he’s made good hires in that so if you like that why do you think he won’t get this one right that’s that would be my only thing i think you kind of got to trust he’s put good people around him in the front office there’s no doubt about that so I I I think you have to like give give him faith on this one yeah that’s looks that’s that’s me man like Leon has hit on most of the right things and we got to trust trust the process you know we definitely got to trust the process the the one thing that has been now mentioned a little bit more that I do agree with and it’s where I question whether or not they would go the the Bryant route is the PR standpoint because and as you mentioned you know kid handling the pressure and what I mean from the PR standpoint is that the coach of the Knicks you’re the spokesperson you speak for the GM you speak for everybody because nobody else is talking and so you got to take those bullets for everybody else would they put that on a young upstar coach with no coaching experience at any level no head coaching experience at any level with the expectations would they put that on him would be interesting or would they depart from that and have Leon be more transparent that would be interesting yeah but see that’s that’s part of the coaching hire for the Knicks is that You’re right because we don’t hear from Dolan because we don’t hear from Leon Rose and doesn’t talk to the media you’re right when you’re head coach of the Knicks you’re going to take that job you were taking all the bullets yeah that is coming and look the Knicks are going to have a time next year where they have a three-game skid uh in the middle of the season and all the expectations going to be high everybody’s going to overreact and be like “What’s going on?” And there’s a lot of pressure on Johnny Bryant if he’s the head coach on that i’m I’m not saying he can’t handle it not saying that i don’t know i’m just saying it is a lot for a first timer that’s why I think if you do go with him and you believe in him you have to put the right support staff around him look we’ve seen coaches in tough situations who were young come in and get the job done even with some rocky moments joe Missoula did it in Boston boston is not in New York but Boston they expect to win they expect championships there there was a great expectation on Joe Missoula with the roster he had and listen he navigated some tough times and they stuck with it but if you go with your guy that’s kind of my point you got to believe in your guy and I understand fans are going to be fans and no matter who they hire it’s not going to be perfect within two weeks we’ll hear people saying “Oh we should have kept Tibs oh we don’t like this guy.” It’s you got to trust the process no Sixers but you got to trust the process right and and see this through and and really believe in your guy and I think you know despite I don’t like the fact that they don’t talk to the media and I do think it’s important for people like Leon Rose they should talk to the media um they have made good hires uh I I I can’t knock him on that and you know we we we just got to see but you’re right it’s a question is Johnny Bryant or some other first- time head coach Chris Quinn whoever you want to mention are those guys going to be uh ready for the firestorm that is the media here in New York yeah let’s uh salute some of our guys on the grind man delmare Brown salute to you vince Ruiz Damen Tucker Marcos franchise channel member salute to you man flow 174 Ralph Fernandez Dmitri Ronaldo Maldonado salute to you guys man casey Heyman franchise channel member on the grind shout out to J Boogie uh Dex on the Grizzly shout out to Jay Boogie man down getting it in mr dun you already know salute uh Dex who you want to shout out in the chat man you you got your chat open yeah yeah I have it right down i have it right down here on my phone uh shout out to everybody who I see in here don Wayne uh Father Peace he said Johnny Bryant’s not coming um oh I got a fellow Grenadian in the chat uh Jamie shout out to Dex with the fitter from New York grenada Spice Spiceman of Spice Girl big up um so yeah shout out to everybody in the chat appreciate it man on the on the Facebook side I see my guy Ty Clemens always repping Jamal man salute skip Righty i see you guys in there salute salute k Vega as well okay um super chats have come in let me let me shout those out tom from Huntington $20 super chat says salute CP salute Dexter number one show for the fans by the fans we need another ball handler so if Jason Kid is bringing the ball up okay JK just kidding he says Johnny Bryan is my pick get Lonzo Ball handle passer defender shooter a lot of people look at Lonzo Ball as a as a potential man i would take a look at it they definitely need ball handling man did the Bulls extend didn’t they extend Lonzo Ball um let me let’s take a look here let’s take a look here yeah I felt I could be wrong on that i thought they extended him on a very friendly deal though let’s see what’s Lonzo Bull’s situation yeah we can’t be trading for a guy like that yeah well 2526 he’s got a $10 million uh salary and he’s got a club option for 2627 so he is signed he is under contract yeah I think he signed 20 or $20 million extension so that’s an interest that’s an interesting bring i haven’t heard anybody bring up Lonzo Ball that’s I’ve heard it the second time I’m hearing it it is not a bad idea if obviously health health being considered it’s not a bad idea man they they really need a backup point guard badly ball handler capable three-point shooter if you’re getting let’s say I’m just thinking this through off top of my head you’re not bringing back Cameron Payne who I don’t think is coming back uh you don’t bring back Precious Soula that frees up about the $10 million there that you could use for Lonzo Ball but you have to trade for him what are you giving up yeah no I’m not trading anything for Lonzo Baldman you want to give up a [ __ ] no you don’t want to get I know you don’t want to give up deuce no no no way no way i don’t know what the situation is with the knee you know i couldn’t do it i’m not trading anything for him no i I I couldn’t do it they’re going to want something back it’s it’s a smart signing by the Bulls when they extended him because I guarantee you even if he doesn’t get traded this off seasonason some point next season but close to the trade deadline with that it’s a team option or a player option team oh that’s a great that’s a friendly deal cuz you can get out of it i like the thought process i just think you’re going to have to trade for him and I don’t know what the Knicks are going to give up cp the franchise Dexter Henry here we are talking Nick Knicks coaching search what is going on with Jason Kid man if the Knicks hit a roadblock it’s just a leverage play what do you guys think leave us some comments in the chat uh shout out to Miguel Nooks he’s not talking coaches he’s talking trade he says “All right three-team trade knicks Rockets Bucks knicks get Giannis bucks get Jabari Smith Jr and Tyler Kick two Suns first round picks and the Knicks pick two Nick pick swaps rockets get Cat or Bridges and Doier i I don’t see I don’t see why the Rockets would why the Rockets do that why the Rockets would give up two good first round picks and not get Giannis in that in that move you know what I mean right that I I we just did a video the other day myself Brian Fana we went through the trade machine we tried to do all these Giannis trades and you know people want to check out the video check it out but what I would say to you to summarize it is a lot of the trades that you can make directly with the Knicks and the Bucks don’t seem realistic for the Bucks right like even if you’ve even if you’re giving up Cat you could I worked this out you can give up Cat combined with Cole or Dier with the 2026 Washington first round pick which again folks you got to remember it’s not that attractive is only attractive remember it’s top eight protected right so I think a lot of us that watch hoops will think the Wizards are going to be one of the eight worst teams in basketball next year and probably in the top eight right so that’s that pick is not going to convey it to be two second round picks so then you got to think about the fact that the Bucks are probably going to ask for all the Knicks pick swaps which they can do in 2028 2030 2032 do you want to do all that that’s that’s giving up everything for Giannis and I still don’t even think that’s a great deal for the Bucks because it’s not like they got a young player they could build around um whether it’s Kak or Dier it’s not that and they’re probably not getting high picks uh for the next couple years so they’re not getting immediate returns on this right i I I just I’ve also looked at it with Mikuel Bridges or OG Anobi who’s another large salary you want to bring in you’re probably talking OG and Josh Hart but now that cuts into your depth i don’t know how CP Where are you on do you want Giannis or No no because I mean you like Giannis for sure of course right of course you know if you’re talking about Giannis for cat straight up obviously but but I don’t again I don’t see like you said I don’t see a world in which the Bucks try to help the Knicks out try to help Giannis out they owe it to their fans and to their ad stakeholders to get the most for this guy if he asks for a trade and if he does you can expect 29 other teams in the NBA to be beating down their door with offers that will probably be better than what the Knicks can give so unless he holds him up by gunpoint and it’s like it’s New York or nothing and they still don’t have to do it because he doesn’t have much leverage he’s still in the contract yep i think it’s a long shot man yeah damen Lillard wanted Miami or nothing right and that didn’t go down right so we’ve seen places where players have wanted to go and it’s not happened because Portland ended up making what was the best deal for them so yeah Damen Lillard didn’t want to go to Milwaukee we all we all we all know this so I I I don’t think that uh I just don’t see it for the I don’t see it for the Knicks with the Bucks i just think that the Knicks don’t have enough that will entice the Bucks like Lift if anything that I just mentioned even if the Knicks gave up all their pick swaps which I think would be a little bit absolutely risky even if they did that in the trade I proposed I still don’t think it’s a good deal for the Bucks i think that’s a that’s a win for the Knicks it’s not quite so Luca Don’s fleecing and see that’s what I think is everybody going crazy they’re like “Look Nico got fleece for Luca so the Knicks could probably fleece the Bucks for Giannis.” I don’t necessarily think that’s going to work like that so no no no i’m I’m with you on that um salute to everybody in the chat once again hit the like button hit the share button subscribe to the channel we are here i’m just combing through some news i’m checking I’m checking my phone i’m checking uh the internet here checking Twitter seeing what updates you never know what pops up you never know what what just might pop up let’s go to the phones in the meantime david Kat David Kat on the Discord go ahead and unmute your mic what’s up guys you hear me yes loud and clear how you doing what’s up man i’m good how are you guys good good all right i was I was just thinking I’m seeing a lot of fans lose hope in Leon and like the front office with what they’re seeing the coaching search and direction like where we’re heading and things like that but I don’t I’m not I’m not going to blame anyone because it screams like old Nicks old star chasing Nicks but in this time like regards to coaching it feels like we’re just chasing the big names and we’re forgetting why we fire tips were just like “Hey Emma Odoka led the second seed let’s just get him.” Hey Jason Kid was in the finals last year let’s just get him chris Finch Western Conference finals let’s get him and it’s not bad to look for coaches who are already hired it’s a very smart strategy that a lot of teams don’t too mhm but it feels like it’s just lazy it’s like is this guy the best fit for us or do we just want him because he’s Jason Kid he’s a great coach but is he the coach for us why don’t you look at like a Willie Green a Will Hardy a Quinn Snider a guy in like who might be not too happy with their current situation but is under contract technically that could be a good fit for us i don’t know i Those are just names I’m floating around i just feel like it’s just lazy the due diligence they’re doing well who I Well I I I can hear where you’re coming from maybe they’re looking at it from the Brunson perspective brunson was very high on him you know Jaylen Jaylen was very high on on Jason Kid and as a matter of fact this was this was his quote on the uh on Kid this was back in the roommates podcast let’s hear this and Dave stay on stay on the line let’s continue this conversation this was Jaylen on Kid back when uh on the Roommate show here we go i’m going to say Tibs number one tibs helped me become an all-star i’m gonna say JK too jkid gave me the confidence to be better and perform better all right that was just a little snippet so you know hey he he he very well could have had kid number one and was just putting Tibs number one because that was his current coach and be more politically correct but this is the captain here right this is your star player this is his team so I’m sure the players are going to be involved in this next pick maybe he maybe this is his top pick david your thoughts is he still there yeah I agree jason Kidd is an amazing head coach but I feel like the names that we have heard now I’m not saying that he’s a bad head coach by any means but and yeah I agree by the way Brunson has to be the huge focus of that but what about the other names what if Dallas says “I don’t I’m extending we’re restructuring Jason Kid’s contract yeah we’re keeping him a Chris Finch you can’t get an Emodoka but there are other guys there’s a Quinn Snder there are many guys with experience leading successful teams that players rave about josh raves about Willie Green he’s been he’s had a record like backtoback really seasons but he’s still but he’s still a coach somehow so do you look into that maybe he wants to coach Bright Lights in New York things like that i don’t I feel like it’s just we have to look for some hidden gems already in the league if you don’t want to go the assistant coaching route yeah I I agree with you there i would just say that based on his track record Leon doesn’t fly blind man and West they don’t fly blind and the the the situation with Tibs in terms of being on the hot seat is not new you know we’ve mentioned this on this show a couple of times so in that regard they’ve had to had discussions in terms of if we do this who are we going to be looking at here who who are we going to be targeting i still think K is their top choice and I’m sure they have a plan B and a plan C just as they’ve had whether it’s free agency so on and so forth i don’t feel like they fly blind at least they haven’t made that impression what do you think yeah yeah i don’t I don’t think there’s I’d be stunned if they’re they’re flying blind here i do like some of the names the caller brought up i do like Willie Green will Hardy I don’t think is going anywhere i think the Jazz are locked in with him for a while but Willie Green I don’t know how things are going in New Orleans um I I think he’s a good coach um I think he’d be good i I’ll throw another name i threw this out on New York game on this week’s episode james Burggo is a guy I think that should be getting some look uh got a raw deal in Charlotte uh you know 47 uh got them to their most wins since 2016 i think it was 43 wins i think he’s got a good mind i think he’s hungry i think I think that’s another thing to add to what the caller is saying you might either have some coaches that are established some coaches that got out for whatever reason of their first job but did have a bit of a winning track record and are hungry to make their mark again i think James Bargo is a guy that could be like that uh he’s a guy I would give a look at so yeah but I don’t think Leon Rose and company I think they got a plan i think they yeah have an idea of what they want to do i think what we’re hearing is from fans sometimes just go get this guy go get this guy who’s a big name so I understand where the call is coming from because I think there is a lot of talk from fans to just go get a big man some people in the media too so I want to put them out of there cuz we’ve heard some ridiculous names already brought up yeah no I I uh I definitely uh agree with you there what do you guys think in the chat rate that call in the chat does David have a point do you feel like uh Leon is flying blind is he Is he driving this Nick’s car now off of a cliff after he’s been cruising for the past four years things have been going well man we we’ve been on an uphill climb and you know we’ve been cruising very well we’ve been going up but it’s Leon now flying this thing off a cliff are you guys nervous as uh as David said some fans are nervous here about Leon man so we’ll we’ll see what happens there man but speaking of drive to our sponsor of today’s show at cargurus.com hey man if you guys are looking to buy or sell a car hey go to cargurus.com and check them out man because making a big purchase should come with confidence not confusion cargurus helps you cut through the noise showing you the best deals and in-depth vehicle details so you can feel confident about your purchase because when it comes to your big deal you deserve the best deal car Gurus will connect you with trusted dealerships when you’re ready ensuring a 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Fave 424 again no surprise always chatting it up he’s got 100 XP and my two cents again no surprise always in here he uh he’s in the top four with 75 and shout out to Brew Crew Fishing at number five so salute to everybody there uh in the chat and on the leaderboard and so to everybody participating who else we have here shout out to Gamble he says “I’m going to say if the front office knew there was a chance they weren’t keeping Tibs and thought kid as a pos was possible no reason to do a Bridges trade.” What do you think there man i don’t I don’t think so uh no because I I I think again I’m not speaking on this with any inside knowledge but just from some people I’ve talked to about stuff I I don’t think that last season before last off season there was any thought about getting rid of Tibs i I think this I said and I’ve said this I’ve been on record with saying this i thought this past season we just saw this in with the changing the starting lineup three-fifths of the starting lineup being different i thought the entire season was going to be a season of evaluation i thought the Knicks could be fringe contenders they got to the Eastern Conference Finals and I thought the team was going to evaluate everything and then see what they needed to tweak tweak from there i kept saying all season on my show it is much more likely the Knicks are better 2025 2026 season than they were in the 2024 2025 season i still believe that can be true so I think the Knicks evaluate everything as they should i think they looked at the moves now I think some people are also get caught up in less of the cat stuff and more of the Muel Bridges stuff and the five first round picks i will continue to say this the price is the price they had to pay the the Nets tax the Nets little brother in the city the Nets wanted to make sure the Knicks had to pay a little bit more the Knicks wanted to get themselves a good defensive wing who could be a good third option scoring did Muel Bridges have a strong season no do I think Muel Bridges can be a little bit more comfortable next season in New York yes I do i still would have wanted that trade i wanted Mikuel Bridges on the team before i brought his name up last offseason thinking there was no way the Knicks would get him i was told by somebody within the Nets that trade wouldn’t happen i was literally told that and the Knicks the Knicks still got him i still think that the jury on that trade is not out i still think you can things can change i just think people everybody wants tomorrow yesterday everybody wants immediate results cp I think people got to wait and let this team build and make tweaks not major tweaks minor tweaks and get to next level are there concerns absolutely but I think one of the things I do agree with this team and this organization are doing is it would have been easy for them to stay complacent and say “Oh we’re going to run this back with everybody.” And they looked at it and said “Okay Tibs has his flaws here’s what we need to tweak.” Now that doesn’t mean it’s easy to find the next coach because in some ways I could also say it’s the the the easy part of that process while it is challenging it’s done you fired the coach the hard part is finding the right guy we’ll see if they could do it did Listen I don’t know if Johnny Bryant could be the best coach for the Knicks to go forward it could be Jason Kid it could be James Rego could be Mike Brown somebody else I mentioned on the show could be Terry Sts i have no idea you just got to hope you got to trust your process to try to get the right guy in and see what happens there’s no bonafide answer look I’ll ask you this CP you probably Some people thought Phil Jackson was going to come in here and be a great uh coach or G a GM for this team and then that didn’t work out we had I thought David Fdale was going to be thought Larry Brown was going to bring us to the chip yeah that’s what I’m saying the worst coach they had in the 20th century yeah so you don’t you don’t know there’s no like guaranteed answer for this like there’s no exact science for hiring in regular jobs people make bad hires all the time i’ve seen it I’ve seen it we’ve worked with people everybody watching you’ve worked with people you’re like “How did they hire this person how is this person my boss?” This stuff happens so it’s not easy you just got to hope that they have a good process in place and uh somebody that fits the culture and the vision of the team and and that it works out well well said man uh let’s get to the phones last call of the day jaden R jaden R g mute your mic hey how you guys are doing loud and clear man good how you doing man good man good thanks i have a few questions for you guys so number one do you think it’s more likely Male will get resigned to that extension of what was it like 39 mil a year for four years or get traded this year because obviously you can’t let him walk for free this next off season so I was wondering what your opinion is on that and also do you think it’d be more likely that Mitchell Robinson will resign an extension or get traded this uh next year because you know he has so much uh injury history and I feel like he’s at his peak trade value at this point because of how well he played in the playoffs so I don’t know what would be more beneficial for us but yeah I just wanted your opinion on those two yeah with with Muel and you let me know what you think Dex i think with Bridges unless it’s in a package for a significant upgrade I think he will get signed i think he will get signed i I don’t think you you trade him for you know three or four role players three role players or or a role play and a couple picks i think they sign him i think they sign him too i do not to the call i do not think he’s going to get the max cuz I know that he’s available for a max session that’s close to what Brunson extended for i don’t think he’ll get the max i think he’ll get slightly less than that so if he gets somewhere around 35 millionish I could see that somewhere between 33 35 million on a you know annual average i could see that i think Bridges is a fine player there’s Listen do I like the fact that he doesn’t always go all the way to the rim no he shies away from the content i thought his defense got better as the season got along i thought he was really good defensively in the playoffs so that’s big part of why you brought him here i think he’ll be more comfortable in year two i trust the process with Bridges i have a feeling with the Bridges deal next year nobody’s going to be talking about the picks we might finally quiet that now the Mitchell Robinson question I think that’s a really good question I think the Knicks are at a very interesting place with Mitchell Robinson Summer for what the caller just mentioned you’re right his value is is as high as it’s ever been because it was low at the start of last year now it’s high with how he’s played right CP can you flip him into a couple of role players that also would depend on how you feel about Ariel Hawkport maybe then stepping up into the backup center role that’s always interesting now the Knicks have had some history in the last couple years of developing some bigs and I don’t think they get enough credit for that listen they made Nerland Noel work out pretty well he has Stonehands we saw that uh Isaiah Hardenstein we see what he developed into right mitchell Robinson if you look at his development from being a second round pick so they’ve done a good job with some bigs and maybe Hawk Pro is the next guy they could think of and they don’t want to invest as much but can you trade Mitch into maybe like a bigger wing off the bench or I’m just spitballing here the Knicks I think are going to think long and hard about that the problem is if you keep Cat on the team you kind of need someone like Mitch that’s good defensively bro you need Yeah you need that security blanket right that that’s what you need CP you need somebody that good defensively and that good you saw impactful he was on the offensive glass so I think the Knicks will look at options i do um also you still can’t fully trust his health but they might look at it and say “Man he’s as healthy he’s ever been his value is as high as it’s ever been maybe we move him.” I could see it but I think a lot of it depends on what they decide to do with Cat again this all goes to what does a new coach want which we still don’t know this is this this this helps answer a lot of those questions what does that new coach want and if that new coach is like “Hey I’m going to work I’m going to work with Cat here but I need some I need a security blanket as CP just said then I think u Mitch is safe.” But I do think let’s I’ll put this other here let’s say they start the year and things are starting to look good better with Mitch and Cat and some of the line the different lineup combinations they’re playing and you can see the value of Mitch and Mitch is healthy you might hear some talks mid-season about an extension i think I think you could hear that to keep him part part of the part of the crew um you know I think talks for him and like uh D still has another year before we get to that you’ll start to hear that come up but yeah I think it’s likely that Bridges extends this summer uh I would say it’s more likely that that Mitch would get traded but I I don’t I I think the Knicks it depends on what the what they want the roster to look like really depends on that depends on what they could get for him but I just think right as of right now he’s so important to their defense you know now if they go into the draft and they feel like they they found a nice diamond in the rough that could come in and play right away hey maybe he does get traded for some more rotation you know you might have to sacrifice but I just think he’s so important for their off their second chance opportunities their rebounding and as a signal call on that defense man you heard him miked up in that playoff series he’s he’s been for a team that that was not talking enough and communicating enough and effective in that regard defensively i have a hard time seeing them trading him off the rip like that but again you know for a team that really needs a lot of bench depth you just never know i No nobody’s untouchable outside of Jaylen Brunson on this team right now i I I mean I don’t disagree now that doesn’t mean I think that they need to make sweeping changes you You know what CP you know what i feel like we’re dancing around you know in the whole thing i think the big issue is going to come down to be the coach that they hire do they do they realize the facts i’m talking about facts and numbers here do they realize that you you are likely not going to be able to win with heavy minutes of Brunson and Cat on the floor at the same time and what do you do about that right so it kind of makes sense either you got to move off of one you’re not moving off for Brunson obviously so you know we’re talking about Cat um what could you get for him could you get an upgrade defensive play i know some people in the chat are going to bring up KD i understand that i got my concerns with his age and his own health but I understand the vision of what people see of of him with somebody could come in you could put him at the four he’ll be better defensively than Cat even at his age that’s the crazy part but what what are you doing that’s the thing i think a lot of it is going to be about how a coach looks at that can I win with both those guys on the floor because are you going to play with more lineups experiment with more lineups so you can stagger their minutes and h kind of hide try to hide the weaknesses of Cat right i mean is do I think there’s a coach that could turn Cat around defensively probably not he’s in year 10 no it’s probably not happening it’s not happening he is who he is could he look a little less lost CP maybe maybe because that’s my thing with him he looks lost out there it’s not effort it’s not I don’t think Duke cares or doesn’t try trust me the dude Duke cares but no I saw somebody in the chat just say trade cap for Zack Levie how does that help the Knicks no I don’t how does that help the Knicks at all no no no no thank you Chris come on man come on Chris so to everybody in the chat once again hit the like button hit the share button subscribe to the channel shout out to the Rhyme Animal Chuck D $50 super chat from a franchise channel member says “Leon has now put the pressure on himself he’s in a bullseye man and if the team hits a four-game losing streak doesn’t win 50 or make Eastern Conference finals Leon got to do some serious press conference no more silence jb Cat Bridges OG will get familiar peace we’ll get familiar piece of CP and deck shout out to the Ryan Animal Chuck D yeah Leon’s putting it on himself man but the kids gambles have paid off that’s what I’m saying i’m trusted Leon trust the process and I I think this thing is going to work out we just got to give her some time some patience figure out the coaching thing get some draft picks get some much needed bench depth in here get some athleticism some ball handling and let’s go for the 25 i think I think those are the keys i I haven’t fully looked into all the names um one I threw out I threw out this a couple weeks ago Malcolm Broden was somebody I was thinking about now I could get concerned about his injuries and you know but I do think there’s some guys are going to want to come here CP and we’ll take a discount we’ll take the veterans minimum and and sign and I think if the Knicks can hit on one or two of those guys along with hitting on some of the development I think it’s a couple of the young guys they drafted last year have to hit man I you know I asked Stephan Bondi about this uh right after the season I said who do you think is the most likely young player to make an impact next year in the rotation he said I thought he was going to say actually proteier yeah and Yeah people in their organization are high on Dier it’s Dier definitely um they’re high on Dier i was high on him uh I did a pre-draft show last year with Chris Persian from Nicks Film School and we talked about Daddy i like his skills i think he’s got a lot he’s got a ways to go defensively but I like his skills i think people will see what his skills are i’m very intrigued to see what he can do in summer league i’m definitely intrigued to see what he can do in Vegas it’s Dier has the tools to be a two-way player um very young 19 you know party’s been a pro before he’s what how old is Py 20 something years old so um I I think he will still be an adequate backup five kick has a long way to go but he could still potentially be a backup point guard i want to see him be a bit more aggressive this summer league i’ll be watching that see how his offense progresses like you look look at how McConnell move moves with that Pacers unit if you want to compare him to McConnell you know a lot of people want to make that kind of lazy comparison but if you want to look look at how aggressive McConnell is in terms of getting into his bag he gets to that mid-range that’s his shot and that’s what I want to see Kick work on you know playmaking is all great he could do that in his sleep but they’re going to need him to be a bigger threat offensively and he has the tools three-point shot wasn’t falling for him a lot of times it was flat it was very short get inside get that get that mid-range zone and then become a threat there i think that’s the key for him and then just being competent on defense because you I remember that game against the Clippers this year where paint campaign went out and he came he had to play the second half and James Harden and Ty Louu did rightfully so hunted him every possession and he was lost and look I’m not going to kill him he’s a rookie you’re asking a rookie to go guard James Harden and put you in James Harden and Kawhi Leonard pick and rolls that’s that’s hard to do you know I just think the Knicks got to hit on the margins they got to make some smart signings they’re going to have to take some risks you just mentioned the word risk with Leon when you were responding to Chuck’s point um look you got to take risks to make a championship there’s no like I think people want like “Yo check this box right move check.” It don’t work like that like you got to make some risks along the way every championship team does you hope you hit the right moves right some pay off um and and it works out but you got to take some risk you can’t just sit back all the time i think one I don’t want to call it a risk but I think one of the philosophical changes is going to be getting some younger guys like Dier some more opportunities to contribute to the even if it’s seven to 10 minutes a night yeah I think Dier is great two-way ability i’m very high on his ability and so I I also think I have high hopes for Hawkport too i want to add I do think Hawky can has some raw talent um I think he could be developed almost in the way Hartinstein was i think that’s a guy you should look at his game he’s a He’s an underrated passer i think that’s what people haven’t seen about Horty yet underrated passer so when you’re watching summer league watch how they use him in a lot of high pick and roll situations uh high post action watch him he’s a really good passer yeah well well said man uh a couple more super chats to read here we’re just We’re just combing through the news just combing through the news making sure we didn’t miss anything okay okay 10our super chat greg Film Stuff says “Ah my guy Greg would you guys consider a cat for Bam swap bam is younger better at defensively and a better offensive player when he gets credit for Bam and Mitch is an intriguing front court duo for me man bam and Cat are an intriguing front court duo.” I I think you you make a swap you you you lost a lot of offense that Bam Look I’ve been looking for Bam to become a more assertive offensive player for the last three years now he is who he is he’s okay he’s not great enough that’s part of the reason why Miami is not hasn’t been as successful as they could have been defensively he’s great i love him defensively offensively he’s he’s he’s just not enough to uh to consider that for me i’ I’d like to pair the two of them not one for the other yeah yeah yeah yeah not Yeah i Yeah that I’m the same way with that i think it’s because of Bam’s limitations offensively i I thought after last season not this past season the one before I thought he was taking a a leap and then he regressed offensively this season um so that’s that that’s a no for me i love BAM defensively love love BAM defensively um but I think to win you don’t want to get in a situation where it’s a little more laborious for the Knicks to score points right you want the better defense but you need this is why you want as many good two-way players as you can this that’s how you win in this league you’re you’re they’re already killing Mal Bridges for for the 17 points a game and not being aggressive enough you trade Cap for Bam who’s scoring yeah and and see that’s the thing that’s the thing too CP with Mikuel it’s been aggressive to me the aggressiveness has never been I’m not saying you’re saying this but it never for me was in the points per game it was in the matchups for him I I I remember being at a game this year and they played the Warriors and he had Steph Curry on him and he wasn’t punishing him it’s when he gets certain matchups it’s not I don’t care about the points per game i think Muel scoring whatever scoring 17 18 whatever you want to say it’s fine i I that’s not what bother me about situational aggressiveness um and is he going to be fine but you’re right yeah you bring uh Bam here it might be the struggle it might be on a struggle bus offensively you you don’t you don’t want that super struggle man okay shout out to my guy Greg though that’s that’s my guy that’s my mentee so shout out to Greg shout out to Greg uh MueL Nooks he had the the Giannis trade offer earlier find out super chat he says “Revisit my trade add the Suns.” Okay so he says Rockets get Katie Suns get Cat Bucks get a Suns pick Kohic Jabari Smith and Dier and then the Bucks get Giannis wait the Knicks get Yiannis you mean yes yes knicks get Yiannis sorry knicks I was saying Bucks because I’m looking at it like the Bucks would never do this the Bucks ain’t get nobody man no because he’s saying he’s saying the Bucks would get the Suns two picks right if I’m if I’m understanding that so Rockets would get Katie rockets would send Jabari Smith to the Bucks the Suns would get Cat the So the Rockets are not giving up any picks in this am I correct i guess not he’s he’s saying Bucks get a Suns picks Kolic Jabari Smith Jr doier and then the Knicks get Giannis okay here’s the problem with that the Suns picks are not valuable because of how bad their situation is they they are they they don’t have valuable picks right now the Warden I think he’s I think he’s referring to the Suns picks that the Rockets have oh Miguel Nooks confirm if we’re correct i think he’s referring to what the Rockets have that the Suns the Suns own i see now I see a little bit of his logic in the trade my only problem is with that okay now I see your point my only problem is are the Rockets going in or and all the Rockets are giving up is Jabari Smith but they’re going to do that for 37 year old Kevin Durant you’re banking on the fact that Booker wants to be paired back with his boy Cat those picks could be very valuable for the Bucks i see some of where he’s going but the problem with this is man you made this so ideal that the Knicks are really skating out of here without giving up not much at all and it’s not going to go that way like hey it’d be interesting i’d do it if it could but hey oh if that could happen yeah i think the Knicks would be all over it also I would like to know four team trades even three team trades now in this second apron world are very hard to do uh because of the amount you got certain teams that are over second apron they can only take back they can’t take back more than they’re sending out so all that other stuff um yeah I don’t think this will happen and I think that the Bucks GM would be looked at as Nico Harrison they be they’ be looking at him the same way like yo this is all you got back and in a way it’s kind of more than Luca but it’s still not great you know what I mean like keep keep going keep going i want to see if if I can No I’m I’m thinking it through miguel did you drop this in a trade machine already uh or did he drop this in a trade machine go ahead go ahead that’s what I want to know for from like I understand I like Miguel I understand what it is you’re trying to do in terms of leveraging the the picks that the Rockets have through the and the Suns that they control um I see what you’re trying to do there i think the problem is the Knicks would have to still send something out I think to the Bucks to make this worthwhile like so if you if I just had to tweak your trade a little bit and I would love to see how it works in the trade machine yeah um if I had to tweak it just off the top of my head the Knicks is still because you only have the Knicks giving up Cat and Dier i think you said Dier too um I think you’re gonna have to give up a little more than that if you’re the Knicks to get Giannis so I would at minimum think the Nick the the the the Bucks would want excuse me the Knicks first round pick that they have with the Wizards and probably one of their pick swaps at a minimum now if you’re giving the Bucks the Phoenix picks a Knicks the Wizards pick and a swap not again for now you’re talking you’re going to have to The Knicks are going to have to come off come up off a little bit more than what they’ve had they’re not just getting Cat and Dier and returning with Giannis like that’s that look that would be a fleecing you guys would make a statue for Leon Rose outside of MSG if that happened okay that that would be a fleecing let’s Let’s try Keep going keep going let’s try this so I’m trying this on on fans Bo right now i’m trying to make this happen i’m putting his his uh his put it through and I’m looking I’m looking in the chat um at at at some of the Oh so this is a four team trade it’s a four team trade oh I’m bugging out okay hang on hang on i’m doing I’m doing work here all right let’s see let me pull Doing the work yeah I’m doing the work here here we go here we go all right let me see if this works out here in the fans this being this being a a four team trade um you know people I see Alex the great here says Cat’s not the problem he’s part of the solution but he needs to move to the four I think what I’ll say to that is I think there’s a world in which cat moves to the four and we saw how it worked with him and Mitch I still think the problem comes Alex was how much can you play Brunson and Cat on the floor at the same time even though I agree Cat is better at the floor and Mitch helped you know cover up some of those deficiencies here’s my concern what happens if Mitch gets hurt right and and this is another depth issue the Knicks have to cover how do you feel about it then you know and there’s an argument to be made the Knicks could be a little bit more versatile defensively without a Cat i’m not saying to definitely get rid of Cat i’m not saying that um I think it should be noted that Cat had the best plus minus of any starter not the plus minuses everything in that Pacer series um but the defensive stuff was was a little was a little tricky did you get anything you still working let’s see what Fan Po Oh Fanso says failed okay hang on where did I go wrong here it says failed at the bottom they usually tell you the deets on like why Fanso okay okay so for the Knicks roster compliance Knicks would have eight standard contract players after the trade and would need to get to 14 to be in roster compliance okay because Okay uh okay got it okay milwaukee would have 12 standard contract players under the trade and would need to get to 14 okay team option jamari Spence currently has a team option for the Rockets this season rockets may decide to decline okay you may accept or decline this off okay mhm okay it’s the the it’s the rocket side you are over the allowable incoming amount by $42 million all right oh you know you know you know what i didn’t even think about that there’s no way that could work i didn’t even think about this the Rockets are just giving up Jabari Smith a player still on a deal to bring in Kevin Durant that’s right it can’t happen that’s the problem so so here’s here’s let let me let me try to tell how you can fix that trade if that’s the major problem you’re going to have to add some more salary on the Rocket side now here’s the problem do the Bucks want to take back that salary and how does it help him so they’re ideally going to want young players yeah the problem is you’re probably going to have to add in a Dylan Brooks which I got to look at his contracts he has left probably Fred Van Vleet right just to get the money to start working close to what KD makes which is about 50 plus million dollars yeah um who’s another high price guy in the Rockets that’s making some money well look let look i’mma keep What’ you say that’s pretty much it cuz are you giving up Sangon in this deal i don’t see I don’t see it are you giving up i mean Jaylen Green hasn’t signed yet so you don’t might need a little adjustments i think this you know they don’t they don’t got the salary really to to fill it and you’re taking in a KD that’s the problem um and this is the challenge with these apron the apron situations is this is what makes it hard very hard um yeah you and the Bucks are only going to want to take back salary for them as they’re trying to rebuild that is expiring or close to expiring that they can control so that’s where Fred Van Vleet comes in as a good salary or Dylan Brooks but I still don’t think that’s enough you need one more player or players that to get you closer to the number of KDs so that’s a challenge in the trade yeah 100% uh shout well hey we This was a good exercise shout out to MC this was a great exercise shout out to you man um shout out to Quan Bostic $20 super chat franchise channel member says “If you get rid of cat for Giannis then they will need a center that can shoot for sure i’m hoping they can you know can they find a stretch five in the draft or something like that?” Not easy but they definitely need that you know i I agree with you Quan good point there i agree with that uh shout out to boss man five out super chat says “What are your thoughts on Mike Brown four-time champ coach of the year shown he can be a spokesperson for an organization can coach five out offense.” I I brought I brought him up CP on our show this week i And Sean from Nick’s film school was with me at first he was like “Ah I don’t know i I don’t like” But I kind of sold him on some of the points that that we heard here is that Mike Brown’s been a good coach he’s won wherever he’s gone he got a raw deal with the Lakers we know this we won’t even talk about what they did out in Sacramento which was absolutely ridiculous here’s why I like Mike Brown he’s more I think he’s known as defensive guy he’s from the Papovic coaching tree um he’s but he’s been very adaptable i think his offensive game and mind expanded from being the couple of years he was under Steve Kerr and I think he’s he’s now sees and knows both sides of the ball i think he can handle coaching in a big market i think he’s a a malleable mind um and I think that’s important for this organization i think you have good relationships with players um I talked to some people last year at summer league on on the Kings coaching staff when he was there it talked about love working under him so yeah I I I think I think he’s a good name i actually like him i I’m not sure why he hasn’t been brought up more um I think people look at his stance and say “Ah it didn’t work there.” there but I think if you really look look at what he did in Sacramento and he was coaching a team that had a weak defensive guard in De’Aran Fox and a weak defensive big in De Manis Sabonis and he had that offense humming and I think he didn’t even have as good wings around him as the Knicks do so So if you give him better wings defensively I’d like to see what he could cook with i like Mike Brown i think Mike Brown’s a fine name what do you think intriguing definitely intriguing you know the the word I got is is that I don’t think he’s high on their list but he could be under consideration that that’s the word I got um not high but could be under consideration could be under consideration um in their you know part of the expansive list that That’s what I got i wonder I wonder if he’s a guy that would get a look or an interview but if he’s not high in the list that’s probably likely no yeah um do I think he’s a guy worth looking into absolutely yeah I think so agreed agreed so hey as the world turns Nick’s coaching edition never a dull moment uh Dax what what do you got coming up this week man what are you working on man i Man to be honest with you because we have no idea what’s going to happen I am not 100% I’m not 100% sure i think we’re going to do some fun stuff in looking at some of these trades though because I realize how much fan the fans like this and we did this with the honest trade and I was talking to my EP today and I think we’re going to dive into looking at some trades some offseason stuff uh CP I got to get you in before offseason primer we got We’re gonna have to do a big one i missed you i I got so didn’t watch the show with you and Mery the other day yeah I still got to watch that so yeah it’s going to be heavy on that we will be doing I did talk to my EP about this we will be doing I’m sure you guys will be too uh the night of free agency you know six o’clock we’ll be doing a a little live special we’ll be going through that so it’ll be fun well Nick’s fans should look out for that we got more stuff coming so yeah it’s good and the new metro new metro I’m doing straight out of Flushing new episode out today check that out there there you go man well let’s um let’s figure to reconvene NBA Finals game three let’s chat about that on the NBA report man let’s do that on Thursday uh but hey man great great show my guy great show appreciate it man thank you yes sir all right man suits everybody in the chat once again hit the like button hit the share button subscribe to the channel salute to my guy Dexter Henry for tapping in man i rock with Dex Heavy man make sure you guys are following him make sure you guys are supporting him on New York Post Sports and great 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29 Comments
It's getting clearer that the Knicks FO leapt without looking, maybe the players soured on Thibs but leadership didn't have a plan for what happens next.
Since we will most likely have to provide compensation or draft picks, let’s make a trade with Dallas and tMilwaukee to obtain Kidd and Giannis. Possibly add the Suns
Great show Cp/Dex 🔥
If Kidd running iso all game please pass
Please NO Melo type trades!
Trust me, the Knicks no exactly who they are going to hire, but they have to give everyone a fair equal opportunity and interview multiple people. The media can continue to throw all different types of names out there, but the Knicks already know who their guy is.
Real quick what are we gonna do with mitch can we afford him
We don’t need any trades just free agent acquisitions first higher, Johnny Bryant as head coach then in free agency, you go after Kelly oubre Chris Paul and bol bol now you have a solid bench with the rest of the bench players whoever we keep how can you not win with that roster with the proper coach?
I think kids is the smoke screen n we’re rolling with a European coach. I keep telling yall. They just said now we’re looking at all levels now. Overseas as well
I’m a Pacers fan so I hope you don’t hire him, but imo Frank Vogel very good coach (especially defensively).
He took my super young pacers to ECSF ECF ECF in 2012/13/14 going 6/7/6 games as underdogs vs the loaded Miami Heatles THEN won a title with Lakers and they had a very good chance to go b2b titles in 2020-21 if AD LeBron both healthy (they were up 2-1 in first round series vs Suns who made finals with 60% healthy Bron then AD went down).
He even had Suns team and defense 2yrs ago MUCH better than they were this year under Bud (under Vogel they made playoffs even without a defensive roster…that would be my one fear is Knicks not a good defensive roster and he’s not a brilliant offensive mind like he is on defense so you’d want some good offensive assistant coaches). A staff with Vogel, Mike Brown, and offensive assistants could be good imo. I’m also a big fan of Sam Cassell!
Players like Vogel a lot too. NO CLUE why he’s not a coach right now. He’s also a maestro with the media and an east coast guy who gets crazy fandom.
Vogel is one of very few coaches EVER to take one team to a title and another team to 2 or more conference finals (my young Pacers). Less than 15 coaches EVER can say that!
If Knicks get Kidd, Bryant might make sense for the Mavs to develop cooper
Knicks not getting kidd and no team want towns
Just hire Jeff Van Gundy for the love of GOD
Giving up KAT with anybody else for Giannis makes no sense for the Knicks you are really undervaluing how much KAT brings to the table
Knicks could try for Kyle Korver center and Shroeder to back up JB
I would love for Patric Ewing to be coaching the centers for the Knicks
@53:00 Did he just say bam is a better offensive player? Lmfaooo
Didn't know Dexter was a Grenadian, love to see us shine 🇬🇩
Tom Thibodeaux to Dallas Mavericks.😂
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What purpose does it serve Leon or any member of the Knicks front office to talk to the media?
We need 😂young 6"7 point guards drop off Leon and the
Drop off Leon and the Brunsons
Lonzo ball is trash
Keep kolek
I would love to trade KAT straight up for Myles Turner. Turner plays D, blocks shots, and gives just enough offense. KAT is special on O, but is a complete turnstile on D and has a low basketball IQ with the ongoing silly fouls. Then find a way to get Donte back for the bench and call it a day and run it back.
Weird thing about KAT is when he came into the league he was known for his defense coming out of college and needed to develop an offensive game….now it’s the complete opposite.
I would keep kolek dont trade him
We have to sack Leon before the draft